Joe Biden: The Surge Is A Failure

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April 5, 2008 11:23 AM EST | AP

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Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. gestures while speaking in Vienna, Va., in this Friday, Nov. 30, 2007 file photo. Biden declared 2007's troop buildup in Iraq a failure because U.S. troops remain committed there in large numbers and political reconciliation has not been achieved. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
WASHINGTON — A leading Democrat on Saturday declared last year's troop buildup in Iraq a failure. Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the military push didn't succeed because U.S. troops remain committed there in large numbers and political reconciliation has not been achieved. "The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically," said Biden, D-Del., in this week's Democratic radio address. "Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together." He later added, "There is little evidence the Iraqis will settle their differences peacefully any time soon." Biden offered an early rebuttal to next week's testimony by Gen. David Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador there. Petraeus and Crocker are expected to say the recent buildup in troops has succeeded in improving security. But they also likely will say that a period of assessment is needed this summer before officials can decide whether troop withdrawals can continue. Democrats have called this approach unacceptable and said they would pursue an alternative policy through legislation. They said their focus will be on restoring the strength of the Army and Marines and refocusing the nation's resources on fighting terrorists in Afghanistan. "I believe the president has no strategy for success in Iraq," Biden said. "His plan is to muddle through, and hand the problem off to his successor." Republicans say they are satisfied with the recent drop in violence and that more time is needed to improve the situation there.
WASHINGTON — A leading Democrat on Saturday declared last year's troop buildup in Iraq a failure. Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the military push didn...
WASHINGTON — A leading Democrat on Saturday declared last year's troop buildup in Iraq a failure. Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the military push didn...
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- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

I would go tomorrow if they would take a 65 year old with a bad heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/05/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1582 fans permalink
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They might. They accepted some with mental problems, I hear. So what if you also have a heart condition?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 04/05/2008
- TAC I'm a Fan of TAC 23 fans permalink
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"So what if you also have a heart condition?"

LOL, good one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

I KEEP TELLING YOU ALL I HAVE PULLED MY TIME FROM 1961-1968 WHEN I GOT OUT THEY STILL HAD THE DRAFT, AND I WAS CLASSIFIED 4F SUFFICENT PRYOR SERVICE AND SOLE SURVIVING SON, THEY CAN'T TAKE MOMMIES LAST SON.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 04/05/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 305 fans permalink
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Raymondf
I would go tomorrow if they would take a 65 year old with a bad heart.
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If a 72 year old Warmonger can be a Presidential Nominee, then a 65 year old can serve this Illegal Invasion perfectly fine!

Don't worry about your heart problem, they can use the same battery as Cheney's.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Already done my time 1961-1968 I'm classified 4F sufficent pryor service sole surviving son.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/05/2008
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There's NOTHING stopping you from, say..... driving a truck from the green zone to the airport, is there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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I'm 61 with a quintupple bypass. I'm not going either.

But I'm sure you did your time as I did back in 1968, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/05/2008
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!967 & 68 for me. I got to 'Nam right after the TET offensive and

went camping with a couple hundred guys w/ 155's and APCs.

After a loud night of outgoing, special forces counted the cows

and chickens we managed to kill. Then we would break camp

and move 6 miles away and build new bunkers w/ sandbags.

We didn't retire until our blast walls were done, after midnight.

As a medic, I had it easier than most of the grunts but it was

much like what I imagined being on a chain gang was like.

ST2P.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

NO I did my time from1961-1968.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 04/05/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 305 fans permalink
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Raymondf
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Tomorrow is TOO late, just Enlist Today, they're open 24/7.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/05/2008
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This should of been the guy running for the Democratic Nominee, you might be winning this election hands down... Oh the Liberals was too thunderstruck with a women and a Black man to not realized the hard way that they are too far left to win a national election.

Oh well maybe in 2012

McCain/Romney 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/05/2008
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Um, he DID run.... & he lost, genius.

....& it's "should've".

...& it's "Liberals WERE too thunderstruck".

...& it's "not REALIZE".

Idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE-HEARTEDLY, I KNOW EVERYONE ON THIS WONDERFUL SITE HATE TO SEE ME GO, BUT I HAVE GO CAMPAIGNING FOR MCCAIN, AND ROMNEY, BUT IT COULD BE LIEBERMAN WELL ANYWAY SEE YOU TOMORROW TO STIR THE POT SOME MORE THIS IS FUN, GETTING THESE LIBERALS ALL SHOOK UP, WHAT A BLAST.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 04/05/2008
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Yeah... g'bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 04/05/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

Military : The Democrats are a failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 04/05/2008
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Because YOU say so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/05/2008

Ditto

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/05/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1582 fans permalink
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Why, because the Republicans failed? What logic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/05/2008
- Boboday555 I'm a Fan of Boboday555 116 fans permalink
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THEN PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS MACH!!!
ENLIST TODAY.

I MEAN COME ON MACH, YOU MAKE IRAQ OUT TO BE SOME SORT OF VACATION HOT-SPOT SO GO AHEAD AND FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY ENLIST!!!
DON'T BE LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.­..BE A MAN FOR ONCE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/05/2008

Joe Biden is a failure. A presidential hopeful failure!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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Bush, the presidential failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/05/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 138 fans permalink
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Well, yes, he was never elected president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/05/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

...and that sad outcome is the result of a whole other kind of failure...­if you know what I mean, and I think that you do!...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Oh! and one more thing you will be paying 8.00 dollars a galon for gasoline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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Nah, we plan on not electing John McBush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/05/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1582 fans permalink
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Is that what it was before the war started?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

nAH! BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE IF THE TROOPS COME HOME AND AL-QUIDA, HESBALAH, TALABAN. TAKE OVER THE OIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND REFUSE TO TRADE WITH US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 04/05/2008
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Is THAT why we killed over 4000 of our kids (& hundreds of thousands of THEIRS)?

The price of gasoline?

I thought it was WMDs.

...no, I meant, "Saddam was an evil dictator".­... na, I meant, "The terrorists would come over here".... nonono....­.I REALLY meant, "he tried to kill my daddy" (a LIE, by the way).

Cretin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/05/2008
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Ooooohhh..­..

So THAT'S why we've killed hundreds of thousands of "Iraqis" (& over 4000 of uour OWN kids)?

The price of gasoline?

Golly..... I thought it was to rid the world of an evil dictator..­..no, I meant so that we won't have to "fight them over here"....n­ononono, I REALLY meant, "because they tried to kill my daddy" (a LIE by the way).

Cretin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 04/05/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 621 fans permalink
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It's 3 AM, do you know where dumbya is ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/05/2008
- Boboday555 I'm a Fan of Boboday555 116 fans permalink
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Gosh Mach,
I couldn't be happier.
Judging from your Rose-Colored neo-con posts, ALL our troops should be home by June.
I mean if I read your posts and the links correctly.
Heck, I may just take the wife and kids to Iraq for our Summer vacation.

You sure do paint a groovy picture of Iraq...mak­es us all wonder why you're still STATE-SIDE 6 years in.
Your posts make you out to be the best American ever...yet you still ignore your AWOL President's pleas for his supporters to go ENLIST!!!
Y'all must be running forr GOP nomination yourself huh Mach?
I mean how else can you explain your not "SUPPORTING THE TROOPS?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Iraqi vets were against their own war it doesn't come as a surprise that they are against this war, don't get me wrong I don't like war either, but sometime it is nessasary. I will say this. if we don"t stop the radical, and notice I said radical Muslims. The world trade center will seem like a 4th of July fireworks display. If the dems. get in and bring all the troops home and raise all your taxes, we will have Al-quida Hesbala, and all other radical groups as regulars in the United States, maybe some of them will be your neighbors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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So how does the quagmire in Iraq prevent that next attack, currently being planned from al Qaeda's Bush approved safe haven in Pakistan?

Bush says if we leave the Iraqis will allow al Qaeda to have another safe haven, besides the one he is allowing them to have in Pakistan.

Do you think the Iraqis will ever be on our side?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 04/05/2008
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There are no such things as "Iraqis".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/05/2008
- aristippe I'm a Fan of aristippe 13 fans permalink

Give it a rest already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 04/05/2008
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Why aren't they here now. What does our presence in Iraq have to do with them not coming here now? Expalin your logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/05/2008
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That is not logic, it's raw emotionalism, in response to the fear and loathing

that raymondf gets from watching Faux News and reading the drudge report.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

They are you just don't know it yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 04/05/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 138 fans permalink
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"I will say this. if we don"t stop the radical, and notice I said radical Muslims. The world trade center will seem like a 4th of July fireworks display."

Spoken like a true Kool-Aid-drinking, Iraq-9/11 conflating moran.

And notice I said moran:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Hit a sore spot did I.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 04/05/2008

It doesn't matter what side makes it into the white house, they will have to raise taxes because of shrubs spending spree with Chinas money. Everyone needs to except this now and when the time does come it wouldn't be such a shocker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/05/2008

Oil = Hunts, Security = Blackwater, Graft = Haliburton
So much for this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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Apparently we've done such a good job of training al Qaeda in Iraq (IED attacks are up all over the world) that they're now requesting that we invade Iran for them.

McCain says he'll oblige.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/05/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 621 fans permalink
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War, it's over there ( Where the hell is Iraq ? ), beer, pizza and cable are over here, mmmm, pizza.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Deleted again, so strange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 04/05/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1582 fans permalink
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Not strange at all. It's a relief for most of us to not hear a dog barking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

bow-wow A--HOLE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 04/05/2008
- Boboday555 I'm a Fan of Boboday555 116 fans permalink
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Dearest paid poster Mach,
For every story you dredge up from Drudge that shows Iraq improving, I can show you 10 that say the exact opposite.
And, when you couple those articles with the surge in violence, the surge in dead Americans and Iraqis and the surge in Kool-Aid drinkers like you (who haven't enlisted for some reason) who say things are going swell, its pretty clear, the Oil War in Iraq is the failure.
All grown-up adults know this!!!

GO ENLIST MACH, UNCLE AWOL GEORGE NEEDS Y'ALL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 04/05/2008
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I'm a fan, Bobo, but is there any actual evidence that these turkeys are paid to post as trolls? I don't doubt it, except that they're so dumb, but then maybe you'd have to be dumb to think it was work to write bullshit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Everyone on this sight can down grade the Bush Admistration, but when I get on and take up for the administration, all my posts are deleted, strange don't you think. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 04/05/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 119 fans permalink
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Yes. Anyone who would take up for this inept administration is certainly strange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

yOU BEEN READING TO MANY lEFT WING NEWSPAPERS, AND GOING TO DAILY KOS, AND MOVE ON .ORG LOL WHAT A JOKE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

OH! IALMOST FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE THE HUFFINGTON POST LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 04/05/2008
- UncleJimbo I'm a Fan of UncleJimbo 183 fans permalink
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Dear Ray-Ray! I believe whole heartedly in free speech and if you wish to come here and defend the Bush Administration more power to you! The question begs....Wh­y the Fuck would you do that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 04/05/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 138 fans permalink
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Yes, more importantly please explain why you would defend an administration that has not only done nothing for you, but has done you great harm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/05/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

BUSH ADMISTRATION, HAS NOT HARMED ME AT ALL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 04/05/2008
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