General Won't Promise More Iraq Pullouts

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ROBERT BURNS | April 8, 2008 11:05 PM EST | AP

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Gen. David Petraeus testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, April 8, 2008, before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on the status of the war in Iraq. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — The top U.S. commander in Iraq told Congress Tuesday that hard-won gains in the war zone are too fragile to promise any troop pullouts beyond this summer, holding his ground against impatient Democrats and refusing to commit to more withdrawals before President Bush leaves office in January.

Army Gen. David Petraeus painted a picture of a nation struggling to suppress violence among its own people and to move toward the political reconciliation that Bush said a year ago was the ultimate aim of his new Iraq strategy, which included sending more than 20,000 extra combat troops.

Security is getting better, and Iraq's own forces are becoming more able, Petraeus said. But he also ticked off a list of reasons for worry, including the threat of a resurgence of Sunni or Shiite extremist violence. He highlighted Iran as a special concern, for its training and equipping of extremists.

In back-to-back appearances before two Senate committees, Petraeus was told by a parade of Democrats that, after five years of war, it was past time to turn over much more of the war burden to the Iraqis. Those senators said Iraq will not attain stability until the United States makes the decision to begin withdrawing in large numbers and forces the Iraqis to settle their differences.

Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio, a longtime critic of the administration's war strategy, told Petraeus: "The American people have had it up to here."

Petraeus responded, "I certainly share the frustration."

But when it came to promising or predicting a timetable for further withdrawals, Petraeus didn't budge. He said he had recommended to Bush that he complete, by the end of July, the withdrawal of the 20,000 extra troops. Beyond that, the general proposed a 45-day period of "consolidation and evaluation," to be followed by an indefinite period of assessment before he would recommend any further pullouts.

The Petraeus plan, which Bush is expected to embrace, reflects a conservative approach that leaves open the possibility that roughly 140,000 U.S. troops could remain in Iraq when the president leaves office next year.

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On Thursday Bush will make a speech about the war, now in its sixth year, and his decision about troop levels.

In exchanges with several senators, Petraeus refused to say when he thought it would be safe to resume troop reductions beyond July without risking "fragile and reversible" security gains.

Asked Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee: "Could that be a month, could that be two months?"

Petraeus began to respond: "Sir, it could be less than that. It could be. ..."

Levin: "Could it be more than that?"

Petraeus: "It could be more than that. Again, it's when the conditions are met that we can make a recommendation for further reductions."

Levin: "Could it be three months?"

Petraeus: "Sir, again, at the end of the period of consolidation and evaluation. ..."

On they went in the same vein, even after a demonstrator _ "Bring them home! Bring them home!" _ interrupted the hearing and was escorted out.

When Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., started in again later, Petraeus said it would defy logic to establish a timetable before knowing what conditions will be like this summer.

"If you believe as I do _ and the commanders on the ground believe _ that the way forward on reductions should be conditions-based then it is just flat not responsible to try to put down a stake in the ground and say this is when it would be or that is when it would be," Petraeus said.

One of three senators who could be the new president by January, Hillary Rodham Clinton, said much earlier, not in a response to Petraeus, that she disagreed with those who criticized lawmakers who are calling for an orderly withdrawal.

"Rather, I think it could be fair to say that it might well be irresponsible to continue the policy that has not produced the results that have been promised time and time again at such tremendous cost to our national security and to the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States military," she said.

Sen. Barack Obama, her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, told Petraeus that while he wants U.S. troops out of Iraq he would not initiate a precipitous withdrawal. And he said talking regularly to the Iranians is critical to getting to the point where it would be safe to end American involvement.

"I do not believe we are going to be able to stabilize the situation without them," Obama said.

War supporter John McCain, who will be the GOP nominee, said: "Our goal _ my goal _ is an Iraq that no longer needs American troops. And I believe we can achieve that goal, perhaps sooner than many imagine. But I also believe that to promise a withdrawal of our forces, regardless of the consequences, would constitute a failure of political and moral leadership."

Petraeus said his plan is supported by Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who has been notably public in his expressions of concern that the heavy commitment of troops in Iraq has limited U.S. military options elsewhere and has put enormous strain on troops and their families.

Petraeus made no mention of reducing soldiers' tours of duty in Iraq from the current 15 months to 12 months, but the administration is expected to announce a decision to do that this week. It would take effect this summer, coinciding with the completion of the drawdown to 15 combat brigades in Iraq.

Petraeus said the recent flare-up of violence in Basra, in Baghdad and elsewhere points up the importance of the cease-fire declared last year by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and highlighted the role Iran allegedly plays in funding and training Shiite militias through cells the U.S. military calls "special groups."

"Unchecked, the special groups pose the greatest long-term threat to the viability of a democratic Iraq," Petraeus said.

Testifying beside Petraeus was Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Baghdad, who also focused on the violence in Basra, where Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dispatched Iraqi security forces to combat Shiite militias.

"Taken as a snapshot, with scenes of increasing violence, and masked gunmen in the streets, it is hard to see how this situation supports a narrative of progress in Iraq," Crocker said. "There is still very much to be done to bring full government control to the streets of Basra and eliminate entrenched extremist, criminal, and militia groups. When viewed with a broader lens, the Iraqi decision to combat these groups in Basra has major significance."

WASHINGTON — The top U.S. commander in Iraq told Congress Tuesday that hard-won gains in the war zone are too fragile to promise any troop pullouts beyond this summer, holding his ground against...
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Iran is the new AQ...
The Shi'ites are the new Sunni

No wonder McCain is confused.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/08/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 51 fans permalink
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""What you've given to your chain of command is a plan which has no end to it."

Well, hell yeah, that's the whole point, isn't it? The right-wing chickenhawks tell us we can't set a timetable, we have to wait until conditions are right to withdraw -- but conditions will NEVER be right to withdraw, according to them. In another six weeks, six months, six years, six decades, their story will still be the same -- "We must not pull out prematurely and jeopardize the fragile gains we have made." They will have half a million of our troops there forever -- that's the "plan." Congress needs to pull the plug on this fiasco NOW.

Honor the dead. Heal the wounded. End the war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/08/2008

i find it impossible to continue this "war" from a moral stanpoint - i would be unwillingly to put my son in harms way for this current situation so why would i vote to put someone else's son in harms way - Plz, repub/conserv explain how you can support or vote for someone who proposes anything but ending this fiasco

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/08/2008
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Your sons chances of dying in a car accident are much greater than dying in Iraq.



It's going to be a long walk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/08/2008

Yeah we all know that no one dies in Iraq. That's what Rush Limbaugh says, so you know its gotta be true. So why aren't you there again? Afraid to drive to the recruiters? I'll drive you down there if that's the case

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/08/2008
- browndog2 I'm a Fan of browndog2 6 fans permalink

Congress could end it tomorrow, the Democratic controlled Congress.Keep that in mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/08/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 84 fans permalink

I'm willing to give Petraeus all the time he wants.

On the condition that all war profiteers in the administration and congress be jailed immediately.

Let's see how long the war lasts then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/08/2008

Lets see how long it would last if there was a draft. Lets draft gay republicans first, guys like Drudge and ddh (remember him?) Maybe politicians kids next

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/08/2008
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Its almost as if the war profiteers were calling the shots, hmmmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/08/2008
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Smells like troll poop in here. Has Rush finished his pronouncements to the rabid dogs for the day?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/08/2008
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They put the goons back on the payroll for General P's visit. It gives them something to do after their shift ends at McDonald's and it has the side benefit of letting them play manly warrior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/08/2008
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There is no military solution, so let's talk to the military and find out if they're succeeding. Brilliant!

This is pointless from beginning to end. There's no relevance in hearing any of the justifications, and it's just sort of grisly listening to their plans for the next few months. It's hell marking time until these monsters are out of power. Thanks so much, Bush and Cheney, for putting your little horrow show on review for the MSM's enjoyment.

I have some studying to do.

Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/08/2008
- laocoon I'm a Fan of laocoon 30 fans permalink

I have a plan to drive my car to the moon on Friday. I start my car and it runs -- voila my plan is working. i have no doubt that Ameircan firepower if concentrated in a relatively small area can succeed in maintaining order in that area. Didnt doubt that in 2003 and dont now. SO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/08/2008
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"...would constitute a failure of political and moral leadership."

McCain finally hits the nail on the head. Unfortunately, he is saying so in the wrong context. The correct context should be in regards to American political leadership, those that voted for this phony war, and the very same people who refuse to end Bush's bungling. Uh, that would also include you, John. Your bravery ended a few years after you were elected and sold out to special interests.

The Congressmen and women who voted in authorizing this war displayed an incredible lack of political and moral leadership. Those people who continue to want brave American soldiers dying for other's to make money display a lack of conscience, political and moral leadership. Those that support budgets that do not address American needs inside of America display a lack of intelligence, political, and moral leadership.

As far as Dear Mr. John McCain goes, he needs to get that puppeteer's hand, that is shoved so far up his ass, out of there. That hand has become a permanent fixture of President Bush's anatomy and John risks the same. Hillary has a better chance of dislodging it. Obama, well, about the same situation as Hillary. Obama is not so bought as the other to. Note to self, not an endorsement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/08/2008

A wise man once wrote:

"Give a man a fish--and you feed him for a day.

Give a man a GUN--and OTHERS will feed him for a lifetime"

Clearly we need more time to turn things around in Iraq. Here it is going towards the sixth year and now only 60%of Iraqis or so want to see Americans dead. just think what we can accomplish in another 100 years with you grandchildrens blood and money??? Only Liberals don't understand this--because they are irrational, right wingnut war cheerleaders?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/08/2008
- kiddub I'm a Fan of kiddub 3 fans permalink

What no one seems to understand is that no matter which party (if you want to play the partisan card) screwed up Iraq, America has to clean it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/08/2008

Why? Most Iraqis still think its ok to kill Americans. Fuque them--pardon my french

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/08/2008
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And what you don't seem to understand is that illegally occupying Iraq is not going to clean it up. As has already been admitted by Bush, there is not military solution to this problem and by continuing to occupy a a country that does not want us there, we continue to erode whatever popular support the Iraq government had with their people. So no, we do not and should not stay to "clean" up Iraq (whatever the hell that means exactly).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/08/2008
- laocoon I'm a Fan of laocoon 30 fans permalink

Why? we still havent cleaned up New Orleans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/08/2008
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"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/08/2008

dartagnan : Hey !! ( I resemble that remark. )...


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/08/2008
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Levin said. He asked Petraeus when he would be in position to recommend further troop cuts, once the 45-day evaluation period ends in September.


Maybe Levin should wait until 3 a.m. and call Hillary?
She seems to have all the answers at that hour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/08/2008

Clinton will be too busy fixing the economy at 3:00 a.m.

If you live in Pennsylvania, you'll know what I'm referring to--her latest campaign ad running here in anticipation of the primary later this month.

For someone so smart, with so much political experience under her belt, she sure did hire a bunch of idiots to manage her public relations. My 14-year-old could come up with better campaign slogans, songs and ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/08/2008
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I think Obama should run his own 3 a.m. ad, aimed directly at Hillary.


It's 3 a.m. The phone rings.
It's your chance for the White House. It called to say good-bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/08/2008
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Are you criticizing her self professed "leadership experience" or her self proclaimed "judgement"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/08/2008
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Hey Geeber shout out from SOLANCO. Her ads are tiresome, and when she says the "I approve this message" part it is with the exact same voice as her Bosnia sniper story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/08/2008

Clinton goes to bed at 2am... what condition will she be in at 3am?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/08/2008
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They will NOT stop this war and they will LIE and confuse and befuddle the AMerican people to keep it going for 100 years. How hard can it be to GET OUT of Iraq. Bush will just continue their policies through the DODDERING McCain. This is facism and its SICKENING to me.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/08/2008
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I think they should go to jail for lying to Congress about the role of Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/08/2008
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I think you should go live in Iran,then report back you findings on how wonderful it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/08/2008
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"You break it, you own it." - Colin Powell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/08/2008
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Yeah I'm gonna take his words to heart. Especially since he has never lied to the American people......Wait........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 04/08/2008
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Well actually, he was lied to. He thought he could avoid war by using taking the issue to the UN. He was the one within the administration pushing for greater UN involvement, but the warhawks beat him out and won the day.

Whether he lied or not does not indicate whether he was right or not.


You think that the world hates the US now? Wait until the US leaves Iraq and civil war begins, or it becomes a stronghold of international terrorism, rather than simply internal terrorism.

The US started this and we have to finish it. We can't simply walk away and say oops, too many lives have been lost. Oops, we didn't anticipate you wouldn't want us here. Or, oops, we failed to establish the proper government after occupation.

Bull.

This has been building for decades, through CIA involvement in foreign governments, to overt US military actions. For the US to simply walk away again, shirking responsibility for another mess created by their designs would be ludicrous and would worsen any damage already done by this horrible mistake for a war. Obama, Clinton, McCain, they are all really reading from the same book on this, partly due to the power of the IMC but also due to their tacit admission that a full withdrawal of US troops would worsen the ethnic genocide, increase the power of Iran and Syria, and expedite civil wr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 04/08/2008

If the comments on this thread are typical of American 'protest' over the occupation of Ayerack then America will indeed be there for a hundred years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/08/2008
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Part II

Time was, those who opposed a war actually opposed not just the nuances of how the war worked, but the very idea of going to war. And they made those views very clear. The way the Democrats were talking today, I have no idea whether they really want to end this war or not. They're talking about setting conditions for funds, or making sure they get to approve deals made with the Iraqi government, or providing rest for our troops. If they really want to end the war, then this whole charade with Petraeus and Crocker is a waste of time.

The fact is, war is not war as we used to know it. It is a series of talking points, theatrical performances by generals who are put on stage by our politicians, who avoid accountability by hiding behind the unimpeachability of a military uniform. Anybody can spin any piece of news, good or bad, to support any point they want to make. Politicians debate minutiae rather than acting. They say things like, "the surge is working," as though they can make it so just by saying it. The only similarity between the war of yesterday and that of today is that people die. They die while our politicians conduct business as usual and discuss this war like they're debating the tax code.

But what is truly wrong with war today is the fact that one man can start it, but millions of people can't end it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/08/2008
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The point is that even the liberal elite know that they cannot end the occupation. This is no longer a war. To walk away now they would be leaving Iraq in shambles and prone to civil war, not to mention the influence of Syria and Iran creating possibly yet another terrorist supporting state, and creating the very religious extremism that Saddam opposed and kept under wraps. Whether or not the invasion of Iraq was right, it was done. It is now America's responsibility to fix it. I don't know which is worse, George W. Bush invading a defenceless nation and claiming he had the justification to do so, or those who now just want to sweep the problem under the rug and walk away as if nothing had happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/08/2008
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The purpose is not to end the war. Don't you get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/08/2008
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I don't see that we have any alternative but to walk away. To put it in very practical terms, we simply cannot afford to continue this war/occupation indefinitely. And I am not willing to bankrupt the United States to clean up Smirky McChimp's mistake.

And in the end these things have a way of sorting themselves out. I was around when we finally decided we'd had enough of Vietnam, after nearly 60,000 lives were thrown away. There was bloody chaos for a while, yes, but after a while the situation stabilized, Southeast Asia returned (more or less) to peace, and today the Vietnamese are buying Coca Cola and making sneakers for Nike. Likewise the world will not end if we pull out of Iraq. In fact it's my belief that the Mideast situation will calm down markedly if we do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/08/2008
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So the occupation is not creating extremism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/08/2008
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Well your right about one thing at least. This hasn't been a war for years. Just an occupation. It is great that us attacking Iraq has destroyed one of the more advanced nations in the middle east and has now opened it to terrorism and religious extremism. Way to go 'merica. What it comes down to is not whether we would feel guilty about leaving Iraq without it being perfect. What matters at this point is what we can do that is best for Iraq. Staying there for another 1 or 2 or 10 years is never going to lead to a Iraq that can stand up for itself. Especially when that people that are supposed to be there to help make Iraq better (various contractors and politicians tied to those contractors) are the ones that gain the most by that country continuing to be unstable and requiring an America presence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/08/2008
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the liberal elite- what are you a trained parrot?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 04/08/2008
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Part I

We're safer but not yet safe, we're winning but we've not yet won, we're making progress but that progress could reverse itself at any minute, blah blah blah. It's always the same. We're doing too well to leave, but we're not doing well enough to leave.

Time was, wars were fought by one sovereign nation against another sovereign nation, with clear objectives in mind on both sides, and a clear end to the war, in the form of a surrender ceremony or the signing of a treaty. Now we don't know who we're fighting, or what we're fighting them for, which allows our politicians to define for themselves who the enemy is, and change the reasons for fighting daily. Nor do we have any way of knowing when we've won. We might have won already, for all we know. If we don't know who the enemy is or what we're fighting them over, how do we know if we've won?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/08/2008
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But "Warrenterra" is a different kinf of war, as our Maximum Leader Bush has told us:"This is a perpetual war, hyuk, hyuk, hyuk. There is no victory and no defeat. It just is what it is - a war."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/08/2008

Isn't 3 trillions dollars being spent by America invading and occupying Ayerack a victory for the teerusts? $200 dollars a month for each MrrrKKKhun? household . WOW . Think how much made in Chiner junk that would buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/08/2008

There is no cause for alarm, but undo complacency is out of the question, We must endeavor to presevere as our For Fathers once told their Children's Children, or so I have read on whatever it is they write these things down on. I hope that this clears up you confusion about our tightly-focused results-oriented Middle East policies. Remember to Vote GOP if you like the way things are going, or if you are a grown man who likes to wear diapers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/08/2008
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You way oversimplify warfare. You refer to European style wars where they line up, bow then shoot each other in the face.Do you think for a moment if Iraqi's stop killing American's and each other we would stay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/08/2008
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"Do you think for a moment if Iraqi's stop killing American's and each other we would stay?"

1. If the Americans leave, the Iraqis will stop killing them.

2. If they want to kill each other, let them -- they've been doing it for thousands of years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/08/2008
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"We might have won already, for all we know."

Of course we won. Mission Accomplished! Saddam is dead.
The war is over. Now we are occupying Iraq, to PROTECT American interests.
At least that is what I have heard. These soldiers must not have died in vain.
And three guesses as to what the "American" interests are? heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/08/2008
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Zeno understood this war. It is Achilles trying to catch the hare. No matter how fast he runs so long as the hare keeps moving- he can never catch it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 04/08/2008
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I listened to about 5 minutes of the Senate hearing to confirm what I already knew was going to be said by the various parties. It's all just a ploy to keep the war *occupation* going. Doesn't the U.S. need to have an oil rights agreement in our interest all signed and delivered before we leave?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 04/08/2008
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I'm enjoying Sam Seder's analysis on Air America. (He's in for Randi Rhodes.)
He's playing some audio clips from the hearing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/08/2008
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Pay attention to what he said about "Special Groups" and Iran. I think we're going to have ourselves another little war soon. And it will be a war made for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/08/2008
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