Greenspan: Blaming Me For Mortgage Mess Is "Quite Unfair"

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Wall Street Journal   |  Greg Ip   |   April 8, 2008 07:05 AM


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Alan Greenspan's reputation is under siege, and he's incredulous.

Hailed three years ago as "the greatest central banker who ever lived," the retired chairman of the Federal Reserve now is being criticized for his management of the U.S. economy before he retired in 2006. The Fed's low rates and laissez-faire regulatory oversight during his final years are widely blamed for sowing the seeds of today's financial crisis -- one that began in the U.S. housing market and is now battering banks, stock markets, borrowers and consumers around the world.

For much of his 18 years atop the world's most-influential economic institution, Mr. Greenspan was lionized for the economy's performance. Now, he notes, he's being second-guessed for it.

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- biwee See Profile I'm a Fan of biwee permalink

GreenSPAM, and now Bernenke, have FLOODED the world with dollars. As a result, the dollar has crashed against most of the world's currencies. Just look at the change of the dollar against the Euro since 2001. The bottom line is that, of course, the big dogs on Wall Street were able to take all this "liquidity" and package it into the SubPrime disaster. Way to go Alan!!! Asleep at the switch....just like Cockroach Condi!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/09/2008
- maggiemae656 See Profile I'm a Fan of maggiemae656 permalink

At this point, the taxpayers of this country should seize all rights to his books and all of his wealth. Kind of like what happened to O.J.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/08/2008
- maggiemae656 See Profile I'm a Fan of maggiemae656 permalink

Just another person who lives in a vacuum being given too much control. Don't they ever leave their little circles to see what's really going on? His comments that are intended to give himself credibility do just the opposite--this guy did not know what he was doing. How can you be an economist and not scope out the entire economy? What's with our government and their lack of data, anyway? Is it that they don't have the ability to gather it, or is it that they just don't give a crap? They're going to do what they want, regardless. And then guys like Greenspan come along and try to legitimize their wrongs with some elitist mumbo-jumbo.

Our biggest mistake has been to put any confidence in what goes on in Washington. Hopefully, it's not too late to take back what is ours--these people are not experts, they are con men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 04/08/2008
- writeaway See Profile I'm a Fan of writeaway permalink

Are you talking about George Bush or Alan Greenspan? They seem to be on the same intellectual and philosophical level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 04/09/2008
- winkin See Profile I'm a Fan of winkin permalink

Here's his speech of Feb 2004:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boardDocs/speeches/2004/20040223/default.htm

"American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage."
Right, how about some fancy neg am loans. And interest only.

"Fixed-rate mortgages seem unduly expensive to households in other countries"
Really? In W Europe (except the UK) most folks still stick to fixed, usually 20 yrs max. And if adjustable, the reset is every 5 yrs, not yearly.

"..recent research within the Federal Reserve suggests that many homeowners might have saved tens of thousands of dollars had they held adjustable-rate mortgages rather than fixed-rate mortgages during the past decade, though this would not have been the case, of course, had interest rates trended sharply upward."
Where else can they go from 1% but up...? Not to mention that from 1% to 2% means a 100 % increase. Pretty sharp, in my book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/08/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous permalink

I have a question about the Glass-Steagull act. I thought the overturning that act meant that banks could do business with investment banks and this is what allowed them to have fraudulent mortgages that they knew people couldn't afford but then sell those mortgages to investement banks who then sold them in pieces to other people who didn't realize they were investing in mortgages but then I read an article that said that actually isn't true and people don't really understand the Glass-Steagull act and what happened when it was overturned.

Does anyone know if overturning the Glass-Steagull act did lead to banks securitizing loans or is that inaccurate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 04/08/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous permalink

And I know my grammar is horrible...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 04/08/2008
- RGKahn See Profile I'm a Fan of RGKahn permalink

NO! We won't stop blaming you for what has happened to our economy. This has happened as a result of your plans and leadership at the Federal Reserve. You pushed for the adjustable rate mortgages when it was first introduced and continued to push for them almost up to the time they fell apart. Your attitude was the line that Mad Magazine famous ... "What - Me Worry", Yeah you and the schrub in the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 04/08/2008
- Robert59 See Profile I'm a Fan of Robert59 permalink

Let's just start calling him Doug Greenspan. Lassez faire advocates claim regulations prevent innovation and suppress the economy, that the market will punish or reward good decision making.

But who are the first ones to come to Washington asking for a handout? The same ones telling us NO to regulation.

Let them go broke. They took advantage of people, literally conning them into believing the bubble would last forever, going so far as to actively assist them in committing fraud by overstating their income and underreporting their liabilities.

Nothing sweeter than to give a bankruptcy judge the decision in what's a fair payment and a fair interest rate. Since none of these thieves will see the inside of a jail, the only justice they'll get is when they see judge after judge cutting the value of those mortgages in half or by two thirds.

Now that would be justice.

Greenspan and Feith, both historical revisionists. Responsible for two of this country's disasters this century and now they want to point the finger at others. Fuck 'em.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 04/08/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous permalink

I call him Greenscam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/08/2008
- Robert59 See Profile I'm a Fan of Robert59 permalink

I like that, nice ring to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 04/09/2008
- FreedomCorpse See Profile I'm a Fan of FreedomCorpse permalink

Alan, Alan, Alan.....we are only blaming you because you caused it....no other reason. What did you say Alan in 1966 about the Gold Standard and 'welfare statists'? Alan you talk through both sides of your mouth and screw over the little people big time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 04/08/2008
- kellygrrrl See Profile I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl permalink

ah, there's that old Repub value: Accountibility

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/08/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

Where? Where??

Oh, you're joshin' me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 04/08/2008
- Johnbo See Profile I'm a Fan of Johnbo permalink



Greenspan claims to have left the important task of "regulation" to underlings but no one would have been an underling of Greenspan that believed in regulation. It was clear that he believed in the "wisdom" of the market place. When tighter oversight of the mortgage industry was recommended in 2000, he claimed that if the Fed regulated the industry that the industry would then be able to use that oversight as a stamp of approval and thus use it to boost credibility. No kidding. If we do our job, in Greenspan-think, we will only enable the mortgage industry to use our regulation as a boost in their sales pitch. Kind of like a bank saying put your money with us because we have FDIC insurance. Couldn't have that happening, right? And besides, what would Ayn Rand think?

The funny part is that NOW no one would use Fed oversight as a selling point. Look how effective it's been (NOT!!).

And, the Wall Street Journal talks only about the criticism of Greenspan for his failings in helping create the sub-prime meltdown. It doesn't even broach the subject of his disastrous support for Bush's tax cuts that helped add more to the national debt in Bush's short seven years than the during any other period of time in American history.

Are we being too hard on you, Alan???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 04/08/2008
- Veri See Profile I'm a Fan of Veri permalink

"...would spur consumers to borrow against home values and spend more. "

And he was right. And the American consumer fell for it. Not only that, but greed won the day. You are poor, America. We are poor. Borrowing money instead of making real income to fuel and economy in collapse. And the politicians? Without their deficit spending, the bankrupting of Social Security, and Alan's adherence to debt = wealth, maybe we could have been better off.

Now, I see many posts blaming Americans for signing mortgages they could not afford. Guess what, idiots? The ultimate responsibility came down to the loan officer who has to approve that loan. Without that approval, and the lack of government rules and regulations, American wanna-be homeowners would not have been able to buy and be foreclosed upon.

Get some brains. Greenspan endorses debt as wealth. The politician endorse that plan. You and your children pay for their excesses. Why? Because you are serfs and peasants in a dead end. Lined up against the wall, waiting to be economically put out of your misery. Also, you are uneducated. Go to Wal-Mart to see the best and brightest America has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/08/2008
- MilwaukeeMike See Profile I'm a Fan of MilwaukeeMike permalink

"...would spur consumers to borrow against home values and spend more. "

That quote WAS the policy he endorsed, despite knowing better, to be a Team player. And it worked very well in the short term by improving the economy (or so it appeared) for W. He could have said no. Read Bush's former Secretary of Treasury Paul O'Neil's book "The Price of Loyalty." It is all crystal clear. They all had, with a surplus, an opportunity to make this country stronger for the long term but chose instead to take the short term political gain. Their actions put this country in a hole that will be difficult for anyone, including our spoiled population, to ever get out of. There are no more private pension funds to liquidate, no more mutual insurance companies to liquidate, no more easy medical cost shifting, no more easy capital gain give aways, no more accumulated individual and corporate wealth (equity and positive corp. savings/reserves)--stuff just isn't there any more: spent it all. Even worse for all of us, while Enron can declare bankruptcy without consequence, while the former steel giants can liquidate pension and retirement benefits so that foreigners can buy them (and on and on), if you can't make ends meet, you go on a payment plan under the revised Bankruptcy Code. No, it ain't good. WTF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 04/08/2008
- mmckinl See Profile I'm a Fan of mmckinl permalink

Who didn't increase margin requirements before the stock market bubble?

Who lowered interest rates to 1% while refusing to regulate loan underwriting and touting exotic loan 'products' ?

Who refused to regulate derivatives even after the LTCM meltdown in 1998?

You Mr. Greenspan, that's WHO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 04/08/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

"he says. 'But where's the evidence? Too many people make accusations by assertion. I think it's improper."'

Read: You can't pin anything on me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 04/08/2008
- mmckinl See Profile I'm a Fan of mmckinl permalink

We'll give him a fair trial then hang him ...

It's better than he deserves ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/08/2008
- robinhood1 See Profile I'm a Fan of robinhood1 permalink

The man has no shame. He ought to keep a low profile and enjoy his retirement. Too bad he had a pressing need to stay in the limelight, get a lucrative book deal and go back to consulting. Jimmy Carter has set a much better example of how a retired high government official should behave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/08/2008
- Moshe See Profile I'm a Fan of Moshe permalink

Typhoid Mary: "Quit blaming me for typhoid!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/08/2008
- VOTER See Profile I'm a Fan of VOTER permalink

Alan, you take the blame or you publicly hand it to Bush and Cheney.

Which is it going to be?

"No!" There isn't another book deal in this answer. A press conference will do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/08/2008
- GreedyOldPsychopaths See Profile I'm a Fan of GreedyOldPsychopaths permalink

Alan, if you can't shutup at least do the honarble thing. Your hero Milton Freidman is calling. Something about "free markets" are dead just like him. Go join him soon, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/08/2008
- GLOBALISATIONisBARBARISM See Profile I'm a Fan of GLOBALISATIONisBARBARISM permalink

Spot on, GOP.

Besides, every new scene of this (seemingly never-ending) spew-and-gobble show, the master briefing his faithful idolat... , em - admirers - is as ghastly as the guy himself. What about him being AntiChrist, you know, the beast which was dead and comes to "life" again, to rule the world for the ultimate spell of perversity?

(And for those wailing we're not constructive, go do your homework folks. Read the series about the "Financial Tsunami" from F. William Engdahl - http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/ - and sh. u. until you have a grasp of what real role Greenspan fulfilled, ever was intended for, and still goes on fulfilling with you gullibles.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 04/11/2008
- FreedomCorpse See Profile I'm a Fan of FreedomCorpse permalink

You got that right. Freidman, Greenspan, all economists trained since early 60's with philosophical hogwash praised as knowledge and wisdom known as free market theory are all bankrupt intellectually and bankrupting millions upon millions of people inflicting suffering on a mass scale....for another pure lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 04/08/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

Free Markets seem to be feeding fewer and fewer people at a much higher price!

Really strange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 04/08/2008
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