Begala: "Nothing But Contempt" For Penn, Compares Him To Rumsfeld

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First Posted: 04-11-08 11:13 AM   |   Updated: 04-19-08 05:12 AM

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Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that of Donald Rumsfeld's tenure as Secretary of Defense.

"I have nothing but contempt for Mr. Penn," said Begala at a New York City breakfast sponsored by the non-profit group Public Agenda. "And for those of us who wanted to see him out from the beginning, it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired. He has been demoted. How could this be?"

Begala, who has served as a CNN analyst during this election cycle, spent much of the event touting Sen. Hillary Clinton as a capable and experienced candidate who shouldn't be sullied by her chief strategist's mistakes. Asked how the New York Democrat could end up in her current predicament -- even Begala said it looked, at this moment, like Sen. Barack Obama would win the nomination -- he put the onus on Penn's ill-conceived game plan.

"Mark Penn did have this strategy," Begala said. "He wrote a book called Microtrends in which he argued that the era of big trends is over. That's like going to New Orleans before Katrina and saying the era of big storms is over. It might end up being true but it could be really wrong."

Taking more, often humor-laden swipes, Begala went on: "[Penn] is looking to target non-Catholic Latino woman. All two of them... He slices the baloney incredibly thin. And in addition to being a political strategist, he is heading one of the biggest public relations firm in Washington, which is a huge conflict of interest. The campaign ended up looking like Exxon Mobil instead of what it really is..."

Begala's comments on Penn's tenure as chief strategist are some of the harshest yet to emanate from within the broader Clinton circle. In the wake of Penn's decision to meet with the Colombian ambassador to the U.S. -- to discuss the promotion of a trade deal that Sen. Clinton opposes -- other advisers to the senator (notably Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell) hinted their disapproval and desire to see Penn fired. Prior to Penn's demotion, which came as a result of his Colombia misstep, there was still critical sentiment of his leadership within the campaign's inner circle. That dirty laundry, as the Clinton campaign stumbled in post-Super Tuesday slate of primaries, was increasingly aired in public.

On Friday, Begala addressed other, perhaps more pertinent, topics related to the 2008 campaign. He expressed bewilderment over the structure of the Democratic primary, which will have no candidate receiving the needed number of pledged delegate support. But as for one of the inventive measures the Clinton camp has floated as a metric for superdelegates to decide the nominee -- Rendell's idea to look at how each candidate has done based on the Electoral College votes they would receive in a general election match-up -- Begala called that "silly."

That aside, Begala did not show great concern that the clash between Clinton and Obama would come back to haunt the party. Unless, he added, it was taken to the convention.

"The bitterness is at the elite level -- the really close friends and the big donors," he said. If, however, the primary battle went to the Democratic convention in late August, then "there is insufficient time from them to stitch things together."

Overall, Begala reminded the audience that both Obama and Clinton were remarkably well suited and qualified as candidates: "[Sen. Chris] Dodd, [Gov. Bill] Richardson, and [Sen. Joseph] Biden, in any other field they would be frontrunners and between them they didn't get any delegates."

And while both Obama and Clinton would have to overcome racism and sexism respectively (as well as Sen. John McCain's skill at transcending the negative perceptions of the Republican Party), Begala noted that the political landscape was ripe of the Democrat's taking.

"If ever we are going to break through those prejudices it is going to be a year when the economy is in the tank, when we are in an unpopular war, and the stars are aligned," he said.

Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
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- YRM I'm a Fan of YRM 9 fans permalink

Begala, a CNN analyst? That tells you something about the guy right there. This is the same CNN that always turns to pro-Obama/DNC Rules committee member Donna Brazille for analysis on Sen. Clinton's day-to-day strategy. We can thank this 24-hour P.R. newswire for the incessant Mark Penn/Bosnia Sniper Fire/Bill Clinton "out of control" headline news day in and day out and for making sure Sen. Clinton's voice is almost never actually heard. Truly, the Obama candidacy is one of the biggest election con jobs in U.S. history. One can only marvel how Wolf Blitzer, Candy Crowley, and all their counterparts continue droning this tabloid journalism as if it still had any credibility. For more on the manipulation of the primaries and the trial of Obama's friend Tony Rezko that's not being reported, I've posted an article at thecityedition.com which links to lots of documentation of the actual facts 9if anyone's still interested).

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 04/11/2008
- KINOKO I'm a Fan of KINOKO 5 fans permalink

Here's a funny idea for you, YRM....maybe if Medusa didn't give CNN so much cannon fodder to shoot at her, they wouldn't? I have to assume you watch the slack-jaws over at FAUX NEWS burn their little crosses and goose step all night, so I can sort of forgive your confusion. Maybe the "Bill Clinton out of control" stories make CNN because...drum roll please...they happened? Maybe Medusa lying TO AMERICA IN IT'S FACE makes so much noise on CNN because.... ummmmm....she did it? Oh, and the Rezko thing? Sorry, I'm actually not interested...been there, done that. The Chicago newspapers have laid that puppy to rest about a month ago. Let it go. Why don't you compile some fun-filled facts on the .45 mm hole in the top of Commerce Secretary Ron Browns head? Or wait, I know....on the pending California Civil fraud case bought against Bill Clinton, et al., by Peter F. Paul? The docket sheet is freely available public information. And maybe we can discuss cattle-gate and Travel-Gate while we are vetting, YRM? Sorry, but your whole premise stinks, and so does FAUX NEWS and all the other Old School characters that want to continue the downward moral spiral of these united Staes. "Shame on you", HRC/NASCAR/WWE/HEE HAW supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 04/11/2008

They are doing Hillary a favor because there is no way she can again sell that she didn't no what her friend and partner Jim McDoughal was doing all those years in their business when he comitted the 18 felony counts of fraud for which he was CONVICTED. But some of her not to bright supporters keep bringing up Rezco, like they never heard that people in glass houses should not throw stones.

If she were to run, the Republicans would be sure to bring it up. Right now they are keeping mum, because they dream that she might win and they could run against the weakest candidate.

Obama is in the fortunate position of being able to run a clean campaign and allow the Clinton campaign to expose it own incompetence and dishonesty.

OBAMA 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 04/12/2008
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How can Hillary be "ready on day 1", how can she win the general election when she can't pick the right kind of advisers and strategists to win the NOMINATION? You can't blame Penn for losing the nomination, Hillary. The buck stops at the top.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 04/11/2008
- journey80 I'm a Fan of journey80 4 fans permalink

Mark Penn ran Bill Clinton's1996 campaign, and Hillary's senate campaigns. Penn is CEO of Burson-Marsteller, whose PR specialization is "perception management" for some of the most predatory corporations and human rights violators in the world, e.g.:

Babcock & Wilcox (Three Mile Island), 1979.

Union Carbide (Bhopal), 1984.

Exxon, (Exxon-Valdez oil spill), 1989.

Burson-Marsteller also works for countries troubled with PR problems:

The Nigerian government during the Biafran war, to discredit reports of genocide.

The fascist junta that ruled Argentina during the 70's and early 80's, to attract foreign investment.

The totalitarian regime of South Korea, to whitewash the human rights situation there during the 1988 Olympics.

The Indonesian government, which got into power through a CIA- sponsored bloodbath.

Astonishingly, the late communist Romanian despot Nicolae Ceaucescu.

A Burson-Marsteller star client is Monsanto. We have Monsanto to thank for, e.g.:

Polystyrene
PCBs
Agent Orange
Dioxin
Bovine Growth Hormone (rGBH)
Roundup
GM cotton and soybeans

http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/Monsanto-Checkered-HistoryOct98.htm
http://home.intekom.com/tm_info/ge_bm.htm

On April 7, as news of Penn's "firing" was hyped, Huffpo posted this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/penn-speaks-in-private-wi_n_95508.html

The Penn connection should have ended the Clintons' political influence years ago. That it has not may be Penn's most unnerving triumph of perception management. The Clintons' long history of betrayal of their populist rhetoric appears to be in good hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 04/11/2008

That's a laundry list of evil. If all that is true, how does Mark Penn sleep at night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 04/11/2008
- TheHandyman I'm a Fan of TheHandyman 109 fans permalink
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as Der shrub once said, "very well, thankyou!" Two peas in a pod. The Founding Fathers would be appaled!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 04/11/2008
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Senator Hillary Clinton. Victim. Victim of "misogyny". Victim of "sexism". Victim of the press. Victim of males. Victim of Bill's loud mouth. Victim of her subordinates. Victim of the "vast right wing conspiracy".

What about LEADERSHIP, Clinton campaign? What about RESPONSIBILITY? The "buck stops anywhere before it gets to the top" morality is not presidential material, unless you are running for Bush's 3rd term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 04/11/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 61 fans permalink
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here -here!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 04/11/2008
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Nastiness is off and running-- you should read what's going on in New York Politics-- it's ugly-- very ugly--

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 04/11/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 342 fans permalink
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The unorginal look around them for something that sells and copy it. Penn and company looked at Rove's tactics, and instead of condemning them, they reverse engineer them, see how they worked, and adapted them.

So while the Clinton's say there is a "vast right wing conspiracy", they also admire how effective it was, and adapted it to serve their own purposes.

I find that sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/11/2008

its called benchmarking. Businesses do it all the time., stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 04/11/2008
- KINOKO I'm a Fan of KINOKO 5 fans permalink

Actually, when used in reference to a "campaign" being run like Hillary's, the political slang term often used is "Dirty Pool". But then again, for HRC, becoming President is all bout business, IE: making money, so maybe it does fit. I can almost guarantee you that if you looked in either NY/Nevada/Wyoming/or Delawares business registration rolls, you will see both Bill and Hillary Clinton listed as a "business". For instance, 'Bill Clinton LLC' or something like that. Now imagine what that would say if it was true? So....is the "Stupid" one the one who is disgusted by HRC's adaptation of the Karl Rove strategy playbook, hillarysupporter.....or the self-delusional one who constantly makes excuses for the ($109,000,000) Bionic Woman? Personally, I think it's you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 04/13/2008

Oh, and Paul Begala knows all of this fully. So what does it say about him that he is covering for Hillary by placing blame on her advisor, Penn, for being a jerk, rather than on her for having trusted such an jerk in the first place? And what about CNN and other corporate news organizations that use partisans, such as Begala, as "analysts?'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/11/2008

Mark penn is to blame for the terrible campaign plan, but Hillary is also to blame for not seeing how bad the plan was. Sure, at first the race was all Hillary's, but the fact that Obama, a complete unknown to most Americans, was able to leap so far ahead of her is a testament to just how misguided the internal politics of the Clinton campaign have been until this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 04/11/2008
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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As bad as Penn might have been the product he was pushing was much worse. Hillary is already laying the blame for losing this campaign on her staff because she cannot admit that she is responsible for her poor performance with her actions and her words that proved to be one of the worse candidacies in modern history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 04/11/2008
- Savanarola I'm a Fan of Savanarola 5 fans permalink

Was Penn behind new Coke and the Yugo? At least he's consistent in pimping inferior products. Hillary is the New Coke Sucker...there Yugo again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 04/11/2008

Begala may be right about Penn being scum, but what does it say about Hillary and Bill Clinton that they kept him as a top advisor for such a long time and only demoted him after his whorish lobbying activities became a public embarrassment. It says that Hillary and Bill saw nothing wrong with Penn's whoring, because they work in the same whorehouse. This is the truly important lesson to be learned from the Mark Penn episode. The Clintons real constituency is the world of giant corporations, lobbyists and super-wealthy individuals, who have enriched them by more than $100 million over the past 7 years. Penn is not running for president, but Hillary is. Those who cannot see her duplicity need to shake themselves and rub the stars from their eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 04/11/2008
- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

Interesting to see this den of thieves turn on themselves. Just shows when you accumulate a gang of political opportunists and they hit some adversity. But then that describes the leadership of the Republican and Democratic parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 04/11/2008

Keeping Mark Penn for as long as Hillary did, as well as not firing him outright, decidedly points to her lack of judgment. Period. As she is the decision-maker, one only need examine every facet of her campaign to see how mismanaged it has been. Whatever her experience, it's not the kind I want running the White House and the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 04/11/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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can you imagine a CEO of a company hiring someone like this as a manager?
I don't think that would be a very successful company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 04/11/2008

Yes, we can. It happens all the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/11/2008
- janex I'm a Fan of janex 4 fans permalink

So, is Paul suggesting that Mrs. Clinton, like Bush, doesn't know when to clean house? That she values loyalty over competence?

The fact that Mark Penn was allowed to continue for so long when it was so obvious to everyone who is not Mrs. Clinton that he was a destructive force on so many fronts, does not, to my mind, improve her standing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 04/11/2008
- Savanarola I'm a Fan of Savanarola 5 fans permalink

NO! She values effective mendacity to effecting campaigning!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 04/11/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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it amazes me that some Clinton supporters are choosing to see Penn as a scapegoat, making Hillary the victim of her own manager's incompetence.

Does the truth really escape these folks? Penn is a reflection of Hillary's skill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 04/11/2008
- NelsonR I'm a Fan of NelsonR 3 fans permalink

He is nothing but a criminal lobbyist to enrich his fortune on the backs of Americans. LOOK AT HIM, he exudes corruption and what our government has become. Both the Clinton's and Bush's are corruption personified. America represents thievery from the masses. Capitalism perverted.

It will be so freshening to NOT have a BUSH or CLINTON in the White House. If I had my way every Representative who proclaims "representing the people" should be investigated by the F.B.I. and I will guarantee you 90 percent of these so called servants of the people will be in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/11/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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Penn (aka Hil's Rove) should be more than enough reason for any voter to question the decision-making skills of the candidate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 04/11/2008
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