Begala: "Nothing But Contempt" For Penn, Compares Him To Rumsfeld

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First Posted: 04-11-08 11:13 AM   |   Updated: 04-19-08 05:12 AM

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Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that of Donald Rumsfeld's tenure as Secretary of Defense.

"I have nothing but contempt for Mr. Penn," said Begala at a New York City breakfast sponsored by the non-profit group Public Agenda. "And for those of us who wanted to see him out from the beginning, it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired. He has been demoted. How could this be?"

Begala, who has served as a CNN analyst during this election cycle, spent much of the event touting Sen. Hillary Clinton as a capable and experienced candidate who shouldn't be sullied by her chief strategist's mistakes. Asked how the New York Democrat could end up in her current predicament -- even Begala said it looked, at this moment, like Sen. Barack Obama would win the nomination -- he put the onus on Penn's ill-conceived game plan.

"Mark Penn did have this strategy," Begala said. "He wrote a book called Microtrends in which he argued that the era of big trends is over. That's like going to New Orleans before Katrina and saying the era of big storms is over. It might end up being true but it could be really wrong."

Taking more, often humor-laden swipes, Begala went on: "[Penn] is looking to target non-Catholic Latino woman. All two of them... He slices the baloney incredibly thin. And in addition to being a political strategist, he is heading one of the biggest public relations firm in Washington, which is a huge conflict of interest. The campaign ended up looking like Exxon Mobil instead of what it really is..."

Begala's comments on Penn's tenure as chief strategist are some of the harshest yet to emanate from within the broader Clinton circle. In the wake of Penn's decision to meet with the Colombian ambassador to the U.S. -- to discuss the promotion of a trade deal that Sen. Clinton opposes -- other advisers to the senator (notably Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell) hinted their disapproval and desire to see Penn fired. Prior to Penn's demotion, which came as a result of his Colombia misstep, there was still critical sentiment of his leadership within the campaign's inner circle. That dirty laundry, as the Clinton campaign stumbled in post-Super Tuesday slate of primaries, was increasingly aired in public.

On Friday, Begala addressed other, perhaps more pertinent, topics related to the 2008 campaign. He expressed bewilderment over the structure of the Democratic primary, which will have no candidate receiving the needed number of pledged delegate support. But as for one of the inventive measures the Clinton camp has floated as a metric for superdelegates to decide the nominee -- Rendell's idea to look at how each candidate has done based on the Electoral College votes they would receive in a general election match-up -- Begala called that "silly."

That aside, Begala did not show great concern that the clash between Clinton and Obama would come back to haunt the party. Unless, he added, it was taken to the convention.

"The bitterness is at the elite level -- the really close friends and the big donors," he said. If, however, the primary battle went to the Democratic convention in late August, then "there is insufficient time from them to stitch things together."

Overall, Begala reminded the audience that both Obama and Clinton were remarkably well suited and qualified as candidates: "[Sen. Chris] Dodd, [Gov. Bill] Richardson, and [Sen. Joseph] Biden, in any other field they would be frontrunners and between them they didn't get any delegates."

And while both Obama and Clinton would have to overcome racism and sexism respectively (as well as Sen. John McCain's skill at transcending the negative perceptions of the Republican Party), Begala noted that the political landscape was ripe of the Democrat's taking.

"If ever we are going to break through those prejudices it is going to be a year when the economy is in the tank, when we are in an unpopular war, and the stars are aligned," he said.

Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
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"Begala...­spent much of the event touting Sen. Hillary Clinton as a capable and experienced candidate who shouldn't be sullied by her chief strategist's mistakes. Asked how the New York Democrat could end up in her current predicamen­t...he put the onus on Penn's ill-conceived game plan."

Whoa. Excuse me Paul Begala, but just how clueless do you really think we are?

Senator Clinton hired Mark Penn. Mark Penn remained at his job for many months, due directly to the continuing support of Senator Clinton. And Mark Penn remains with the Clinton campaign to this very day, again due directly to the continuing support of Senator Clinton. If he wasn't representing her interests and carrying out her wishes to her satisfaction, does anyone seriously believe that he would still be there?

Attracting talented, highly-capable staff and developing and managing an effective campaign is the very first executive responsibility that many Presidential candidates ever get. By any objective measure, the Clinton campaign has been a disaster, while the Obama campaign has functioned like a well-oiled machine. Yet you're asking us to ignore all the evidence of Hillary's executive incompetence, on the basis of your simple, unsubstantiated assertion that she's "capable" and "experienced?"

Are you really surprised then, to find that the public increasingly sees so many of the senior Clinton staffers and surrogates as a pack of unprincipled, opportunistic weasels? At the very least, PLEASE don't insult our intelligence anymore. OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 04/11/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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but don't forget ... she's the victim of the Vast Conspiracy, which apparently is even more vast than she had realized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/11/2008
- Savanarola I'm a Fan of Savanarola 5 fans permalink

No, it is she who is merely half-vast!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 04/11/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 90 fans permalink
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The other day Mrs. Clinton says she pays no attention to polls.

And the man running her campaign, the piggish pollster Penn was paid 10 million dollars by her.

Does she think no one will notice? Does she care one whit?

If you don't get Hillary by now, you never will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/11/2008
- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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OHhhhh...i­t's never Hill's fault...sh­e's always the victim....­Ohhhh
I just don't see the "tough" "ready on day one" .....crap! She can't even pay her campaign bills. She can't oversee a damn campaign !!!!!..
HOW is she going to be a strong decisive president.­..??
UGH!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 04/11/2008
- cuzkate I'm a Fan of cuzkate 3 fans permalink

genia, that pretty much sums up Mrs. Clinton and her
campaign. double UGH!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/11/2008
- mellene I'm a Fan of mellene 10 fans permalink

What an utter sleaze this guy is and to think Clinton had him in such a high position is shocking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/11/2008
- CTmom13 I'm a Fan of CTmom13 9 fans permalink

Lies lies and more lies - The whole Clinton campaign is based on LIES

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/hillary-clint-4.html#disqus_thread

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 04/11/2008

lol.. i see you Clinton lies and i raise you this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqAiqppOCiY&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 04/11/2008

Penn also has lunch with one of Bushes'

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Begala_Nothing_but_contempt_for_Clinton_0411.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/11/2008
- Savanarola I'm a Fan of Savanarola 5 fans permalink

Speaking about the Bushes, people who've seen Hill naked say that Penn looks alot like some of her,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 04/11/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

Many Clinton supporters are using Penn as a scapegoat, and, as much as I dislike him, I don't think that's fair. At the end of the day, the candidates are responsible for the people they choose to manage their campaigns and, ultimately, the message they send to the voters.

Hillary, with all her claims of being a "leader" and "ready on Day 1", chose to let this man dictate the course of her campaign. Why? Yes, he is a renowned pollster, but I think it has more to do with "loyalty" (read: cronyism) than competance. If that is how she manages her campaign, what makes us think she would use different criteria when appointing people to her cabinet? That's what Bush did and look what happened there, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez,etc. With the Clintons it's all about favors. Loyalty over common sense. Once her campaign started nosediving, why didn't she take the reigns, like a real leader would, and clean house?

Whatever the reasons may be, it's not fair to lay the blame on Penn entirely. What's the old expression? You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear? Seems appropriat­e...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/11/2008
- lowry99 I'm a Fan of lowry99 2 fans permalink

and Obama has chosen David Axelrod, a hatchet man who is only too proud to throw his barbs from behind the veneer of "disagreeing without being disagreeab­le."

Penn was a moron, but not a professional hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/11/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

They are both hatchet men, no diagreement there. But, Penn wasn't getting the job done. Axelrod is. If he wasn't, I think Obama would have the good sense to kick him to the curb. Say what you want about Axelrod, but the guy is smart and has done a great job over the last few months.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 04/11/2008
- tedbear I'm a Fan of tedbear 6 fans permalink

What a con job! The Clinton campaign doesn't look like Exon Mobil, IT IS JUST LIKE EXON MOBIL.
If anyone thinks the Clintons didn't know exactaly what Mark Penn was doing, then someone out there is waiting to sell you a bridge. Honestly, how stupid do Hill and Bill think the American public is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 04/11/2008

Judging by you ... very ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/11/2008
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Here are your options:

1. Hillary hired a strategist with a losing strategy and refused to fire him because of cronyism, sorry, "loyalty".

2. Hillary hired a strategist with a losing strategy and refused to fire him because she sincerely believed in his loser strategy.

3. Hillary hired a strategist with a losing strategy and did not fire him because she was being duped and victimized by her subordinates into believing in the loser strategy.

None of these options are very pretty and paint a picture of a candidate with very poor judgment indeed. Obama can't win the general election she says? She can't even win the nomination!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 04/11/2008
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I'm probably not the first to wonder this, but if Begala thinks Penn is like Rumsfeld, then who does that make Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/11/2008

One guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/11/2008
- missjabez I'm a Fan of missjabez 18 fans permalink
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I tend to think Penn is being set up as an ostensible fall guy, while he is still working behind the scenes. I don't trust Beglala.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/11/2008

I think that Obama,is pandering for votes,talking about his mother.He wrote in his book,that his stopped talking about his mother when he was 12-13 years old in order to define his origin. He choose to be became " pur black" from then one. Also,he desown his white grandmother too. What is the really reason for him to go back and talk about both of them, from no other reason than, he wants the white votes.My opinion, I judge this as a matter of character. When it's convenient and he want to achieve a favorable points for him,he has white mother,white grandmothe­r,half-haw­ayan sister,black father,african cousine/brother? What the hack,he is multinational,by his saying multilingual(which is not true cf .teacher from Jakarta). He is not different from any other politicians. Obama also will do everything to WIN, this is a general plaque to all of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/11/2008

Oh no, he's changed his mind since he was 12!

Everybody, call the flip-flop police.

You are retards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/11/2008

At least Obama knows how to spell Hawaiian

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/11/2008
- IRIE I'm a Fan of IRIE 6 fans permalink

What do you think the Clinton's were doing in all those black churches?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/11/2008
- Savanarola I'm a Fan of Savanarola 5 fans permalink

Chummin' for 'Tang

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 04/11/2008
- jsinclair I'm a Fan of jsinclair 14 fans permalink

You might want to, you know, READ the book before spouting all this garbage.

I'm reading it now. It's not like you say at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/11/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Lisa, Barack never disowned his white grandmother. He lived with his grandmother and grandfather from fifth grade through high school. Please check out the truth, as someone has been misinforming you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/11/2008
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Thanks for for your calmness in debunking, Indie17. It's an inspiration. Sometimes it's not so easy to be calm when the charges are just so misrepresented and purposely taken out of context. You remind us of "the angels of our better nature."

It's the "OMG!!!!! He abandoned his white grandmother!!!!!" moments that we have to be most careful of, because that is the very moment, in our concern for a beloved old imperfect Grannie, that we are most vulnerable to them trying to rip the vote right out of our hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 04/11/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 136 fans permalink

That makes me feel a little better about Begala. Although I will not listen to him on TV. Or any other pundits due to my 2 P's rule.

No Polls, no Pundits.

You know, I don't feel the need to hate Hillary just because I support Obama. Haven't we had enough demonization of our politics in the last couple decades?

Don't get me wrong. I think Bush and his crew are the spawn of Satan. But Hillary, Obama and McCain are not those people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/11/2008

You're right, and so is Begala. Remember this, in Mark Penn's own words:

I have won about 70 major elections around the world, including many presidents, and I devised the simple message for Tony Blair in his last successful campaign: "Forward, Not Back".



Of course, that was the slogan used by Kang, the extraterrestrial who ran for President in a 1996 episode of "The Simpsons."

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/02/why-hillary-is.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/11/2008

I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward,
and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/11/2008
- Subtle I'm a Fan of Subtle 2 fans permalink

"The bitterness is at the elite level -- the really close friends and the big donors," he said.

It's obvious Begala isn't reading the blogs or the posts that come with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 04/11/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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I noticed that too.

I'm not convinced that everyone posting here as and Obaman or a Clintonista is infact any sort of progressive or Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/11/2008
- mimsnpips I'm a Fan of mimsnpips 10 fans permalink
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As the democratic nomination heated up the trolls came pouring into Huff. Just look at some of the replies below. They're listening to Rush, Medved, Hannity, etc. and attempting to wreak havoc on the other side. They like Huff because unlike the neo/repug sites Huff doesn't put your email address next to your entry for all the world to see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/11/2008
- mimsnpips I'm a Fan of mimsnpips 10 fans permalink
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Subtle: I was going to write the exact same thing until I saw your post. Arianna and bloggers from Huff are on CNN all the time. How can Begala miss what's going on? I seriously hope the divisions can be healed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 04/11/2008

Yep yep, although you can't blame Penn for all of it. Even if you believe that Penn singlehanded ran the Clinton campaign into the dirt, Hillary let him do it. It shows that she can't manage an organization, and she can't pick the right people to help her manage it. How could we expect her then not to surround herself with Cheneys, Rumfelds and Brownies? She obviously can't pick them well, and she obviously doesn't have the sense to overrule their bad ideas, or kick them to the curb when they have overstayed their welcome, even after they have demonstrated huge conflicts of interest and incompetence, she keeps them on.

On the other hand, if Penn hasn't controlled everything, then you must accept that she carries a lot of the blame for everything that went wrong, and can't use Penn as a scapegoat.

Either way, she is a horrible manager, and hasn't proven that she would be a good president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/11/2008
- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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Here here, Begala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/11/2008
- unionave I'm a Fan of unionave 61 fans permalink
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Begala did not mention his pal Bill who is a partner in all of the Penn deals . Even the Clinton suporters lie .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 04/11/2008
- lowry99 I'm a Fan of lowry99 2 fans permalink

it's "hear"

why would it be "here"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 04/11/2008
- ndolomar I'm a Fan of ndolomar 11 fans permalink

I think snruB may mean it as in "Here, here -- over here, Mr. Begala -- look at Mark Penn...yes­, yes, the shiny, shiny Mark Penn over here."

Maybe the Clinton campaign thinks enough people will fall for it and forget who's the person in charge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/11/2008
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