Begala: "Nothing But Contempt" For Penn, Compares Him To Rumsfeld

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First Posted: 04-11-08 11:13 AM   |   Updated: 04-19-08 05:12 AM

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Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that of Donald Rumsfeld's tenure as Secretary of Defense.

"I have nothing but contempt for Mr. Penn," said Begala at a New York City breakfast sponsored by the non-profit group Public Agenda. "And for those of us who wanted to see him out from the beginning, it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired. He has been demoted. How could this be?"

Begala, who has served as a CNN analyst during this election cycle, spent much of the event touting Sen. Hillary Clinton as a capable and experienced candidate who shouldn't be sullied by her chief strategist's mistakes. Asked how the New York Democrat could end up in her current predicament -- even Begala said it looked, at this moment, like Sen. Barack Obama would win the nomination -- he put the onus on Penn's ill-conceived game plan.

"Mark Penn did have this strategy," Begala said. "He wrote a book called Microtrends in which he argued that the era of big trends is over. That's like going to New Orleans before Katrina and saying the era of big storms is over. It might end up being true but it could be really wrong."

Taking more, often humor-laden swipes, Begala went on: "[Penn] is looking to target non-Catholic Latino woman. All two of them... He slices the baloney incredibly thin. And in addition to being a political strategist, he is heading one of the biggest public relations firm in Washington, which is a huge conflict of interest. The campaign ended up looking like Exxon Mobil instead of what it really is..."

Begala's comments on Penn's tenure as chief strategist are some of the harshest yet to emanate from within the broader Clinton circle. In the wake of Penn's decision to meet with the Colombian ambassador to the U.S. -- to discuss the promotion of a trade deal that Sen. Clinton opposes -- other advisers to the senator (notably Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell) hinted their disapproval and desire to see Penn fired. Prior to Penn's demotion, which came as a result of his Colombia misstep, there was still critical sentiment of his leadership within the campaign's inner circle. That dirty laundry, as the Clinton campaign stumbled in post-Super Tuesday slate of primaries, was increasingly aired in public.

On Friday, Begala addressed other, perhaps more pertinent, topics related to the 2008 campaign. He expressed bewilderment over the structure of the Democratic primary, which will have no candidate receiving the needed number of pledged delegate support. But as for one of the inventive measures the Clinton camp has floated as a metric for superdelegates to decide the nominee -- Rendell's idea to look at how each candidate has done based on the Electoral College votes they would receive in a general election match-up -- Begala called that "silly."

That aside, Begala did not show great concern that the clash between Clinton and Obama would come back to haunt the party. Unless, he added, it was taken to the convention.

"The bitterness is at the elite level -- the really close friends and the big donors," he said. If, however, the primary battle went to the Democratic convention in late August, then "there is insufficient time from them to stitch things together."

Overall, Begala reminded the audience that both Obama and Clinton were remarkably well suited and qualified as candidates: "[Sen. Chris] Dodd, [Gov. Bill] Richardson, and [Sen. Joseph] Biden, in any other field they would be frontrunners and between them they didn't get any delegates."

And while both Obama and Clinton would have to overcome racism and sexism respectively (as well as Sen. John McCain's skill at transcending the negative perceptions of the Republican Party), Begala noted that the political landscape was ripe of the Democrat's taking.

"If ever we are going to break through those prejudices it is going to be a year when the economy is in the tank, when we are in an unpopular war, and the stars are aligned," he said.

Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
Longtime Clinton adviser and confidant Paul Begala took full aim at Mark Penn on Friday, expressing scorn for the recently demoted strategist, and comparing his time with the Clinton campaign to that ...
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- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

I am truly boggled. These are very serious politicians and I am just not getting what they are doing. I am cynical enough to know that everthing has motivation but I'm just not seeing what it is. Are they drunk? Are they that arrogant? It is not that they are stupid or inexperienced. This campaign is just comically bad on almost every front. The worst part is they are only playing this game for superdelegates. None of this stuff matters, there is no upsidethat I can see, so why make the mistakes. What possible benefit to bringing up the sniper fire, why would let this guy take that meeting. This has all been incredibly public stuff what is the point? Bizarre, if there is some political logic here I'd love to know what it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 04/11/2008

deminohio, thanks for pointing "it" out and NOW maybe people will start taking his pill taking serious. Older folks refer to them as "meds" and that word goes right over the heads of every one within earshot, hence nothing is ever done; no reaction good or bad. Meantime, those pill poppin' folks, like Bill, keep taking more and more and folks just never CONNECT THE DOTS. YOU DID!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/11/2008

Memo to Obama Campaign:

Speak up about Penn's and Bill's connections to Colombia in direct opposition to Hillary's position !

You don't have to be snarky or nasty - just TELL IT !!!

Come on, Barack .... KO time is here,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/11/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 113 fans permalink

No kidding! I don't know what's going on in PA, but Obama should be bringing up Columbia and Snipergate big time. Apparently, Pennsylvania voters like the bare knuckle treatment so this is one time Obama needs go to negative, and it's actually not going negative, it's telling it like it is. Hope some of his staffers are reading the blogs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 04/11/2008
- zendem1 I'm a Fan of zendem1 128 fans permalink

He should be knocking her brains out with the sniper video. That is an ad that writes itself..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 04/11/2008
- ChandraSF I'm a Fan of ChandraSF 2 fans permalink

I find Mark Penn is closer to being the Dick Cheney of the Clinton camp - contemptuous, contemptible and self-serving. Doesn't know conflict of interest even if hit him like a Mack truck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 04/11/2008

ACTUALLY HE REMINDS ME MORE OF CHENEY'S LEGAL BEAGLE. DOES THE NAME ADDINGTON, RING A BELL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/11/2008
- Denni I'm a Fan of Denni 15 fans permalink

She's not being sullied for PENN'S mistakes, she's being held accountable for her own. If she was a capable leader, Penn wouldn't be in her camp, PERIOD. I wonder if Begala thinks Mr. Bush is unfairly tainted by Mr. Rumsfeld's actions? I'm guessing not! Quit making excuses for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 04/11/2008

Right... his advice might have been bad, or awful or whatever, but she's the one who took it. She's the one who's responsible, who's on the ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 04/11/2008
- Teri I'm a Fan of Teri 10 fans permalink

begala and penn are two peas in a pod, so when begala speaks he speaks of himself. i don't know why he still works for cnn. he needs to go for his lies and support and work for the monster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 04/11/2008

I agree it's projection on Begala's part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 04/11/2008
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Penn would not be my Pastor.

You have to wonder why Hillary would select such a contrasting figure to head up her campaign, unless they are both basically on the same philosophical wave length?

Why would you choose a man to run your campaign who does not have the same goals and political aspirations that you have? Unless you chose someone just for their ability to win an election at any cost and were willing to ignore the smear tactics.

Be very careful of who you sleep with it may come back to haunt you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/11/2008

"PENN WOULD NOT BE MY PASTOR" Best line of the day- if not week!

The hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign and it's inability to run even a competent traditional albeit unethical campaign demonstrates beyond any other measure that Hillary is not ready on day one to be President. One value of these primaries is that we see how the candidates run their organizations, how they handled the administration of a fifty state election and who they surround themselves with for professional advice. Hillary is a disaster in this regard as is John McCain. It's hard for me to appreciate that Americans can't see that but it's a truism beyond dispute that Obama is much more the effective leader, organizer and demonstrates better executive skills than either McCain or Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/11/2008

It's too bad that the Democratic Party forces candidates to pick their chief strategist out of a hat. And that other rule that says all candidates must agree with everything their chief strategist puts forth really disadvantages the experienced, thoughtful candidates like Senator Clinton.

(pause for the laughter to die down)

The fact that Clinton acolytes and apologists pin Hillary's mistakes on Penn is too silly for words. Campaigns begin and end with the candidate. Perhaps it's not that she's run a poor campaign, but that she's a poor candidate.

How about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/11/2008

Your comment displayed an uncommon amount of common sense, playscape! EB

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 04/11/2008
- cacique88 I'm a Fan of cacique88 2 fans permalink
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Of the Clinton surrogates, Paul Begala is in a league by himself. He is no attack dog loyalist like Lanny Davis and James Carville. He may support Clinton but he has an eye towards the growing and inevitable truth that Obama will win this one. He measures his comments to keep the door open. I have heard him speak well of Obama in his CNN appearances. That's smart.

Yet is is difficult for any surrogate to make a clear argument why voters ought to support Hillary's candidacy. She has exhausted the public's patience with Bosnia and perhaps the worst managed campaign in US political history.

I believe that Penn is being scapegoated here by Begala. Certainly Penn bears his share of responsibility but Hillary does also. She chose to run as a center right candidate conjuring up fine words for McCain while denigrating her Democratic rival. Penn's messaging suits her just fine. Which is the reason why she continues using his polling firm and relying on his advice.

Hillary does not possess the judgment to be President, lacks the temperament to handle difficult situations, and will resort to any tactic to win at all costs.

She will lose the nomination. But even more severely, she has placed her own seat in jeogardy by her rightward tilt and active alienation of minorities, progressive women and labor. Upon her return to NY, she will encounter a hostile environment. Her re-election is in doubt. The Clinton legacy is at an end!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 04/11/2008
- deb813 I'm a Fan of deb813 5 fans permalink

As a NY'er I agree wholeheartedly that her presidential run has put her senate seat in jeopardy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/11/2008
- KINOKO I'm a Fan of KINOKO 5 fans permalink

Good ! I hope so. I'd rather a ham sandwich be elected Senator than Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/13/2008

Agree

Last time I checked. This wasn't the "Mark Penn for President" campaign. If there is any blame for the tone or the strategic missteps of Hillary's campaign, the blame falls squarely on her shoulders.

In the last few months, Hillary supporters have made much of how their negative mud-slinging against Obama fulfills an important role because Americans don't really know Obama.

"We're vetting Obama," they say

I would argue, however, that if anything this campaign only serves to highlight Hillary's negatives and illustrates to all of us why she should not be president.

Now she fires Mark Penn, as if to say, "It's not my fault that my campaign is tanking."

Hillary, this is your campaign! If you can't even run your own campaign for President, why should we think that you make a capable or competent chief executive?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/11/2008
- richw23 I'm a Fan of richw23 3 fans permalink

Aside from his appearance, he's repulsive on the face of it. All he has to do is speak. But, that applies to so many, Karl Rove, Jerry Falwell, Dick Cheney, Lynn Cheney, their daughter, Pat Robertson, Nancy Reagan, Chelsea Clinton, Keith Olbermann, O'Reilly, all the Fox trolls, most of the CNN trolls, When did hvaing a repulsive personality become the new you-fascinate-me. Used to you just had Jerry Pine and the like who nobody cared about anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 04/11/2008

Too little, too late for Hillary. But there is still time to divorce Bill. Really, what has Bill done for her? She is being surrounded by Bill-clones, who she has to shed on-by-one. Why doesn't she go to the source and fire Bill, then the clones will disappear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/11/2008

Whaaaaat?

And break up the Didactic Duo?

She'd lose half (or more) of "her" supporters immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 04/11/2008
- PackyJ I'm a Fan of PackyJ 18 fans permalink
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What has Bill done for her? Since she's a former First Lady and now a US Senator, I'd say Bill made her a presidential contender.
If she were just some former Wellesley Young Republican-now-lawyer from a well-to do midwestern family, she sure as hell wouldn't be running for President.
She owes Bill Clinton big time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 04/11/2008

Interesting that he doesn't even consider that hillary's hiring and retention of Penn reflects on her judgment or management style. If it were Obama ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/11/2008

richcpl~

Exactly!!
Her tenacity in keeping the dull Penn is a reflection of HOW she will be as an administrator.

And, that lack of judgment shows that she is NOT ready to lead on Day 1, or at 3 am, or at all. Her administration skills are being shown in the HERE AND NOW. She is NOT ready now and will NOT be ready on Day 1.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/11/2008

Again if I know someone is working to achieve things I oppose I don't hire them unless I don't really oppose them now do I? She either makes horrible judgments or tells huge lies. And I think we know which one it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 04/11/2008

Both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/11/2008
- jsinclair I'm a Fan of jsinclair 14 fans permalink

I disagree! I think she's a master of both! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/11/2008
- olderdem I'm a Fan of olderdem 15 fans permalink

>>Mark Penn was the Donald Rumsfeld of the Clinton campaign. What does that say about her >>ability to run the country? Will we now see the Clinton "surge" strategy? posted 04/07/2008 at >>>11:02:37 olderdem



Seems Begala agrees about my comparison with Rumsfeld. Doesn't it make him wonder about
Hillary's ability to run the country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 04/11/2008

One would think so, (fellow) olderdem...but...noooooooo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 04/11/2008
- citizenxyz I'm a Fan of citizenxyz 2 fans permalink

My feeling exactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/11/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 68 fans permalink
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And what does this say about Hillary's judgement: to have a ethically challenged sleaze-bag like Penn as her chief strategist?? Is it any wonder that her campaign spent so much time in the gutter?? Its a nightmare to imagine a Hillary Clinton white house, full of people like Penn in her administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 04/11/2008
- savertime I'm a Fan of savertime 4 fans permalink

It says the same thing about her "judgement" to have an ethically challenged sleaze-bag like Bill for a husband. Bill though he could change the discourse about his ties to the Colombia trade deal off the front page by bringing back the Bosnia sniper story. Wrong!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 04/11/2008
- sandpiper1 I'm a Fan of sandpiper1 17 fans permalink

Hillary like Bush11 considers loyalty above all else and everyone is now aware of how that loyalty can
ruin a government and a country. People think about it b4 casting you ballot. Keep in mind, also that he was not fired, just changed postions so he's still a member of the campaign and on the payroll. I wonder what he has on Bill and Hillary that they can't fire him outright? Something else to think about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/11/2008

Hillary administration? we would be pledging allegiance to columbia, dubai et al.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/11/2008
- LAJonathan I'm a Fan of LAJonathan 3 fans permalink

Another hack taking a reputation plunge at the hands of the Clintons. Next!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 04/11/2008

As much as Penn and Begala are political hacks, none compare to Dick Morris, the preeminent hack strategist: http://www.thedailybanter.com/tdb/2008/04/hack-watch-dick.html
Why won't he just go away?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 04/11/2008

Begala is a hack? Where were you in 1992 and 1996?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/11/2008
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