McCain Won't Apologize For Vote Against Civil Rights Act

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First Posted: 04-11-08 09:14 AM   |   Updated: 04-19-08 05:12 AM

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This past week, Sen. John McCain repented for his decision in 1983 to oppose a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King.

Speaking on the anniversary of King's death, and from the site of his assassination, the Arizona Republican declared that he was "wrong and eventually realized that, in time to give full support for a state holiday in Arizona... We can all be a little late sometimes in doing the right thing, and Dr. King understood this about his fellow Americans."

But while McCain is seeking amends for his King Day vote, he has refused to back down on another controversial decision he made that put him at sharp odds with the civil rights movement.

In 1990, McCain was one of the deciding votes in helping then-President George H.W. Bush sustain a veto against the relatively benign Civil Rights Act of 1990.

In doing so, the senator found himself at odds with majorities in both chambers of Congress, most senior African Americans within the Bush administration, and the Republican-led U.S. Civil Rights Commission. He also helped Bush became the first president ever to successfully veto a civil rights measure -- Andrew Johnson in 1866 and Ronald Reagan in 1988 both had vetoes overridden.

The act was a response to a series of controversial Supreme Court decisions made the year before. In those decisions, the court overturned a 1971 ruling that required employers to prove a "business necessity" for screening out minorities and women in its hiring practices. That burden of proof, the 1989 court said, should instead be placed on the plaintiff who alleged that his or her client had been unlawfully screened.

Both the House of Representatives and the Senate, deeming this unjust, passed bills that would restore the old law. But the Bush administration objected, insisting that a reversion to the old way would amount to forcing employers to have hiring quotas. It was a controversial and somewhat dubious claim, one that the New York Times editorial page called "an unjustified charge." After all, the system had worked fine from 1971 through 1989. Nevertheless, the president vetoed the legislation.

When a motion to override the veto came to the Senate floor, there was question as to whether it would receive the 67 votes needed to pass. The environment was so charged that white supremacist David Duke watched from one section of the Senate gallery while civil rights leader Jesse Jackson stood briefly at the chamber's other end.

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Ultimately, the vote fell one short: 66 to 34. Prominent Republican Senators like John H Chaffe, John Danforth, Pete Domenici, and Arlen Specter, all chose to override the veto. McCain - who had earlier voted for a watered down version of the bill, one that didn't reverse the court's decision - backed the president.

Nearly two decades later, and on the verge of the 40th anniversary of President Lyndon Johnson's landmark 1968 Civil Rights Act, McCain stood by his vote. Asked about the decision this past Sunday, he again repeated that the law amounted to a quota system that he historically has opposed.

"The issue in the early '90s was a little more complicated," he told Fox News Sunday. "I've never believed in quotas, and I don't. There's no doubt about my view on that issue. And that was the implication, at least, of that other vote."

It is, critics say, a shaky defense; one that only a third of the Senate felt comfortable holding on to.

As noted by the Times at the time of the bill's debate, opponents could not produce any evidence that the original ruling in 1971 had led to a rash of quotas. And indeed, as Thomas Homburger of the Anti-Defamation League said at the time: his group historically opposes quotas and the Civil Rights Act of 1990 was "simply not a quota bill."

This past week, Sen. John McCain repented for his decision in 1983 to oppose a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King. Speaking on the anniversary of King's death, and from the site of his assa...
This past week, Sen. John McCain repented for his decision in 1983 to oppose a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King. Speaking on the anniversary of King's death, and from the site of his assa...
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- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Quotas for the most part don't affect Limo Liberals, latte drinking, Prius and Volvo driving whites and their kids. Its hard working, blue collar workers kids that are affected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/11/2008
- bobdevo I'm a Fan of bobdevo 2 fans permalink
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And just how would you know this, McMoron??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/11/2008

But this wasn't about quotas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 04/11/2008
- umber2echo I'm a Fan of umber2echo 3 fans permalink

This is something only an unthinking moron would say. Fact is, it would affect this class, and has affected it: in corporate hiring and college admissions, for example. The only difference between these "Limo Liberals" and your imaginary blue collar workers and their kids is that the "Limo Liberals" aren't WHINING about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 04/11/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Have another Obama bin Latte!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 04/11/2008

With Hillary against McCain, you'll get the same Milquetoast debates and nothing more. Nothing about this will be on the table and neither will have to worry bout the AA vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 04/11/2008
- ylpatriot I'm a Fan of ylpatriot 7 fans permalink

and may i ask where are the big hard fact-facing debates obamba has made ??? Give me a break ... If he is truly the messiah he would be pounding the beat with facts, plans not lip service and trying to talk his way out of I am really an American not a muslim yeah right ... so much so you will swear on the koran eh /
becareful what you wish for !!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!! i wish we had one candidate who really cared and was honest and talented enough to run our country and get us out of the mess both demos and repubs have put us......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 04/11/2008

Now that his voting record regarding civil rights has been exposed, he is "toast" with the Africian American Community.­..........­and I mean "burnt toast."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 04/11/2008
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I wish you were right; peddler, but the conservative republican base still has the support of those little poor storefront painted white COGIC, Islam hating, Jeffersonian, pressed haired, black pastored churches who accepted little crumbs they thought was money from Bush to be quiet about Katrina. What? Pastor has to pay his car note, and his whore's rent. The food stamps have run out and a miracle is needed....­... Sad, but it's true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 04/11/2008
- rcampbell I'm a Fan of rcampbell 9 fans permalink

smurfchek :
Why should my children get passed up by minorities in school or business if they have better school credentials or better experience in the work place.

I have to assume the poster is white, as I am, because blacks would already know the answer. The problem, Smurf, is not that YOUR qualified children MIGHT "get passed over". The problem is that Qualified black children have been and ARE passed over for the benfit of white children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/11/2008
- CAMBEL I'm a Fan of CAMBEL 13 fans permalink

"The problem is that Qualified black children have been and ARE passed over for the benfit of white children."
__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­_____

Where are these children currently passed over? If you have evidence of such activity you should be reporting this. If not then you should not be using this as a response to a post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/11/2008
- neve I'm a Fan of neve 9 fans permalink

Cambel:

Call the Equal Employment Opportunity COmmissions for statistics on race and sex discrimination in the workplace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 04/11/2008

Are you kidding or really just that delusional? No... applications with "black sounding" names are never passed over, prove it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/11/2008

You know what you can debate this until the cows come home. You will always see it YOUR way. But what you can't deny is that with this RACE the blinders have to come off and you will be confronted with this issue. It's not going away and everyone knows it. It can get better or it can get worse. Too bad all of the old aged and middle aged racists have one more shot at starting some real stupid shit in America, which means you really don't give a damn about your children it's all about YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 04/11/2008
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Go drive your car into the middle of any inner city.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 04/11/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 238 fans permalink
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Do you mean like George Bush getting into Yale and getting gentleman's cees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/11/2008
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Yes! And then went on to be the leader of this country with just "cees"!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/11/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

Good point and as a white guy I got something to say about Affirmative action and White people

white people with multi-gerneational inherited wealth take special advantage ALL THE TIME in our society- they are given special tax breaks, get into college as "legacies" when they are not qualified, get jobs by virtue of their family connection­s...

In order to get white people to ignore their privilage place, they pay people to obfuscate by blaming programs like affirmative action

So while rich people who share your skin color, but not much else, are trying to distract you with affirmative action - THEY are the ones BLEEDING THE COUNTRY DRY

so my fellow non-millionaire whiteys - are you going to be stupid enough to fall for lies told to you by people with the same skin color- or can we unite with Black people who totally share our common interests of equality, fairness, and moderate prosperity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 04/11/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 56 fans permalink
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Amen, brother, amen. We have a lot more in common with the black folk than we do with Sam Walton's nieces and nephews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/11/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

And what about all the young black men and womenserving their country and dieing while those poor white kids are sitting on the sidelines watching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 04/11/2008
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10,000 woots, noamjunior! Too bad it's only a few of us who see this as truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 04/11/2008

Are Dems still mad about slaves being freed by Republicans? Dems still mad about Republicans ending segregation, bringing in civil rights laws? Still peeved the Dem founded KKK is a joke these days?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/11/2008

To equate (or even really compare) modern Republicans and Democrats with those of the late 19th - early 20th centuries is a little misleading, don't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/11/2008
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Misleading? It's what trolls do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 04/11/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

In the middle of the 19th century, Republicans were the PROGRESSIVES and Democrats were the CONSERVATIVES. Things have swapped since then. If you want to make distinctions, make them between PROGRESSIVES and CONSERVATIVES, as a historical look at Political Parties only shows how their platforms have shifted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/11/2008

Nice spin focusing on the party names. Why not live n the 21 Century and judge the current crop by their and the party actions not by folks from 100-200 hundred years ago. And I believe it was the Dems, started by Kennedy and signed by Johnson that brough civil rights.

Helms was a Republican. Same for Thurmond. And Lott. And Nixon. I could go on but those are more recent people that you could use to make a political argument. Think they would be freeing slaves?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 04/11/2008
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

And Franklin Roosevelt incarcerated thousands of innocent japanese citiizens without due proces of law and based solely on their race. You dems live in glass houses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 04/11/2008

I believe that Helms and Thurmond, among others of that ilk, started off as democrats, but during the the civil rights debate, they jumped over to the republican party, where they were in the company of more like minded people. Basically the republicans got the worst of the democratic party when the segregationists left the demcratic party and became republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/11/2008
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Excuse me dude, but what history book are you reading, because segregation was deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court! See, this is what I mean. You guys get up here on these blogs and straight out lie, because you know that many people commenting here are young and were either too young or not even born when thes things took place. You aren't even ashamed of yourself for doing so and too dumb to see that. Don't lay back and wait for the real America to fall.... Lay back and watch your own selves fall. You're ideaologies are of supreme wickedness and lofty infidelity. Your nonsense science can not and will not survive in this new millenium period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/11/2008
- nene I'm a Fan of nene permalink

Now he is trying, to go in black neighborhoods for votes. Is he sure, he doesn't want secret service protection because once they hear about this and there are probably who already know he might need their protection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 04/11/2008
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You're scared of Black people not because of anything they've done to you which is nothing...­. You're afraid because you have a paranoid mind about the things that you covet. Don't blame it on Black people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/11/2008
- loper2008 I'm a Fan of loper2008 7 fans permalink

He will not represent all Americans. Democrats 08 no matter what.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/11/2008
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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McCain is so old that you have to realize, his generation didn't think too highly of Negroes. He still has that old mindset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/11/2008

But he has a "Negro" daughter (adopted of couse, cough cough).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/11/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 52 fans permalink

Wait one damn minute Joe, I am almost of his age and I was in the south and I have my own battle ribbons. You can't generalize that whole generation because we have "myfriends" and his vision from a very privileged place...he didn't get into Annapolis on his own, he didn't get to stay there on his grade average and he did not get to flight school on his merits and talents. This spoiled arrogant and dumb man is NOT a description of that generation. There were also Whites who were of his generation that lost lives and loved ones fighting for the civil rights causes. Get off your righteous horse, please. McCAin even made a joke about "slow to come around" and MLK, Jr would have not laughed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 04/11/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 56 fans permalink
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Actually, if a talented black pilot had been in flight school instead of McCain, he might have been heroic enough to ditch his plane into the sea instead of jumping out of the cockpit, and allowing a fire to start that burned for hours, killing 134, injuring 161 and costing the Navy $72 million.

Oh, I see that there is a link to McSame's role in this now. How convenient:
http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20070122183950855&mode=print

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 04/11/2008
- neve I'm a Fan of neve 9 fans permalink

Isn't that Obama's point about Rev Wright?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 04/11/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

neve- taker your racism elsewhere -I think Mike Savage as a website

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/11/2008
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 33 fans permalink

And Obama announced he would repeal don't ask don't tell and instead replace it with joint commanders who are allowed to be openly hostile to gays.

Potato potahto; just a different group being victimized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/11/2008

RIght, thats exactly what Obama said. I'm thrilled he will repeal dont ask dont tell because the result is highly qualified soldiers being kicked out of the military. He also stated that the Joint Chiefs of Staff should not be selected based on the criteria of their personal beliefs about gays. Either way, gay or gay basher, has nothing to do with military competency. Makes complete sense when you remove the bias.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 04/11/2008
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 31 fans permalink
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Okay, someone needs to proof these things:

"He also helped Bush became the first president ever to successfully veto a civil rights measure -- Andrew Jackson in 1866 and Ronald Reagan in 1988 both had vetoes overridden­."

You meant "become" instead of became, and "Andrew Jackson was dead by 1866 -- you meant "Andrew Johnson."

That is all....... :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/11/2008
- KMan1 I'm a Fan of KMan1 6 fans permalink

I never understood the point in apologizing for something you believe in. McCain is who he is and he isn't the right man for the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/11/2008
- Binx101 I'm a Fan of Binx101 30 fans permalink
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If John McCain, or any other Neo Conservative could be so against quotas, then why hasn't he introduced legislation that would be a reasonable alternative?

Why is he not vociferous about re-districting and the alleged criminal activity of Tom Delay and cronies? His response, over a period of time was the patent McCain answer - something to the tune of not answering other peoples questions - it was a matter for the House. Very convenient and again, irrespective of party, typically Senatorial.

He is not a particularly inspirational or deep legislator, and not unlike many, he's largely been a gun for hire. The Senate is the preeminent public lobby and they have been very ineffective when there is a narrow majority.

There is no reason that John McCain is now the presumed nominee of the republican party, other than , he's the current party stooge because NO one else wants to be the lose in 2008, and by a long shot he could actually win because of the power struggle going on in the Democratic Party between the Dem Power Brokers (Hillary) and the Young Upstarts (Obama supporters). But there shouldn't be any mistake that McCain is the Republican Party Long Shot Stooge.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 04/11/2008
- Davwbaird I'm a Fan of Davwbaird 24 fans permalink
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We all know republicans are born again racists, at least that has been my life long experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 04/11/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 138 fans permalink

Not all Republicans by any means.

But the Republican Party is the last refuge of the racist vote. See: Nixon's Southern Strategy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 04/11/2008

Why should my children get passed up by minorities in school or business if they have better school credentials or better experience in the work place. Who ever deserves it should not be discriminated against. If you work hard and try to do your best that should matter, not by the color of your skin or what country you come from. It seems white american children are the minority in this conuntry any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 04/11/2008
- BlueLogic I'm a Fan of BlueLogic 8 fans permalink
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Oh stop beating that pathetic tired old drum. There is no such thing as "reverse racism" OK? Your sort of woe-is-me, whites have no rights schpiel is the sort of drivel I'd expect on stormfront.org or redstate.com, not HuffPo. Get a grip!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 04/11/2008
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

"...white american children are the minority in this conuntry (sic)..."
Are you saying that non-white babies aren't American?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 04/11/2008
- stupidme I'm a Fan of stupidme 2 fans permalink

Once again, what end of the rope were your ancestor on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 04/11/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 138 fans permalink

Speaking as a dyed in wool White Anglo Saxon Protestant "LET MY PEOPLE GO!

Jeez. You should do a little historical research and find out that after several hundred years of abject slavery African- Americans were subjected to the state sponsored terrorism of Jim Crow for another hundred years.

Denied the vote, denied almost all the rights of citizenship, and subject to violence of the cruelest methods possible for the slightest infractions of the "Code" with no possibility of legal recourse.A­ll extending well into my lifetime. And the lives of any African-American over the age of 40 or so.

Funny that this heritage should leave an impact on America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/11/2008
- neve I'm a Fan of neve 9 fans permalink

smurfchek

For the same reason McCain and Bush would have passed your children because they were legacies (who didn't do very well in school btw). The truth of the matter is people get into schools and jobs for a variety of reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/11/2008
- bobdevo I'm a Fan of bobdevo 2 fans permalink
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McCain is even worse than Bush on that score. He got in to the Naval Academy because his father and grandfather were admirals - so he got a taxpayer paid college education. Which he proceeded to use as toilet paper, graduating 894 out of 899 because he was too busy getting drunk to learn anything.

He was then a mediocre at best pilot, who crashed three planes before being sent to 'Nam.

And he has NEVER had an employer in his entire life - from age 18 to now (50+ years) that wasn't Uncle Sam. What a leech this jerk is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 04/11/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 495 fans permalink
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And yet the corporate media talking heads continue to hug and kiss this guy as if he were Mr. Congeniality. I guess that barbeque sauce must be really tasty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 04/11/2008
- Davwbaird I'm a Fan of Davwbaird 24 fans permalink
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McCain gthe Christ cild?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 04/11/2008
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