Obama Endorser Lee Hamilton Disagrees With Senator On Troop Withdrawal, Trade

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First Posted: 04-11-08 04:37 PM   |   Updated: 04-19-08 05:12 AM

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Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, one of the most respected foreign policy minds in Washington and a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged on Friday, that on at least two major international issues, he is in disagreement with his candidate of choice.

Speaking on MSNBC, the Indiana Democrat and 9/11 Commission chair, said he did not support "target dates" for a withdrawal in Iraq -- a position that both Obama and his primary opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton, back.

"I do think there is a shallowness in the political discussion about Iraq, on both sides really. When they talk about success, improvement, progress, victory, it's all undefined or ill defined. When the Democrats talk about withdrawal, they're not too specific, either," said Hamilton. "The process of withdrawal is a very complex matter. I'm not a great fan, incidentally, of target dates, in foreign policy as a rule and in Iraq's specifically. I am a fan, however, of what you'd call a responsible exit from Iraq."

Sens. Obama and Clinton have called for the withdrawal of one to two combat brigades per month over the course of 16 months -- by definition, a target date. Clinton would leave a residual force in Iraq to guard against any terrorist threat and support U.S. interests. Obama would keep some troops in the country to protect the American embassy and diplomats

Meanwhile, on the Colombia Free Trade Agreement, Hamilton again finds himself at odds with both Democratic presidential candidates.

"I favor the Colombia Free Trade Agreement," said Hamilton. "Trade, unfortunately in the political world, especially in the Democratic political world has become a symbol of globalization. And globalization generally is a very good thing, from my point of view. But there are winners and there are losers in globalization. So the whole trade debate, I think, is kind of an unreal debate and it's a symbol for globalization."

Both Obama and Clinton are against the Columbia agreement, citing poor human rights and labor standards in that country, as well as job losses at home. Former President Bill Clinton - who was paid $800,000 for four speeches by a group that supports the measure - and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, who is close to Obama, back the agreement.

That Hamilton would, on these issues, disagree with his candidate of choice is newsworthy to the extent that Obama seeks his advise. According to Marc Ambinder, Hamilton has given Obama counsel on intelligence policy for months. Noam Scheiber, at The New Republic, however, wrote in March 12, 2008:

Hamilton has no formal role advising Obama -- he hasn't even publicly endorsed him. But his legacy is very much alive within the campaign. Ben Rhodes, the Hamilton aide who helped write his 9/11 Commission memoirs and key chunks of the Iraq Study Group report, is Obama's foreign policy speechwriter. Another former Hamilton aide, Denis McDonough, is the campaign's top foreign policy staffer. Hamilton alum Dan Shapiro advises the campaign on Middle East policy; another alum, Dan Restrepo, does the same for Latin America. By all accounts, Obama uttered his now famous remark about his willingness to meet with foreign dictators like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad off the cuff. But it wasn't such a departure from Hamilton. One of the Iraq Study Group's recommendations was to open a dialogue with Iran. Hamilton himself has publicly embraced this idea.

Asked to clarify whether or not Hamilton was advising Obama, Bill Burton, the Senator's spokesperson asked, "Why do you want to know?" Follow up emails were not returned.

As for Hamilton... confronted on MSNBC with the fact that he disagreed with his candidate of choice on two major issues, he acknowledged the divide, before adding: "I can give you 10 or 12 items that we have where I'm strongly in favor of what he's doing... I think he has a foreign policy vision that is pragmatic, visionary and tough."

Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, one of the most respected foreign policy minds in Washington and a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged on Friday, that on at least two major international issues, he ...
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, one of the most respected foreign policy minds in Washington and a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged on Friday, that on at least two major international issues, he ...
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- shag11 I'm a Fan of shag11 7 fans permalink

That's because Hamilton is a well-known warmonger and corporatist. What's the surprise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 04/11/2008

Why would you support a candidate that you disagreed with on two major issues? Suck up much? What about the latest issues...r­e: 'don't ask don't tell' and those arrogant observations about rural American angst? If Lee is supporting Obama...wh­at does he agree with other than his 'American Idol' popularity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 04/11/2008

Because they agree with more than they disagree with! You can't find someone you will always agree with. He believes in his foreign policies, and thinks he's got real vision to move us forward. They just differ on the Iraq war issue and how to end it! But than some of the smartest people can't find a way out of iraq. or solve the problem! So he's going with the candidate he see's he can agree with the most! Just like any other person will do in America in this election!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 04/12/2008

Ahhh. So now that we are getting to see the details of what Obama really thinks (not just his prize- winning big picture ideas) people are starting to re-evaluate him. It's about time. Let's get to details, not over-arching platitudes. For the record, I love his platitudes but want to know more about him and that is what this primary season is for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/11/2008

Maybe you should consider reading his two books, then. It's not like he's short on words. He also has a 64-page policy outline booklet on his website if you actually want to know more about the "details".

But if you're just waiting for the traditional press to present you with that information without doing any investigation of your own - well, you'll probably be waiting a long time. . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/12/2008
- willo I'm a Fan of willo 5 fans permalink

Lee Hamilton: the guy whose name will live forever in infamy due to his connection with the phony 9/11 commission. Stay miles away from this guy Obama. He's sold his soul. You don't want guilt by association do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 04/11/2008

Hahah I think he's already wholeheartedly rejected the idea of guilt by association, actually.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/12/2008

Who cares? Do we need an update on what all of his supporters think about every issue? Do you want me to start?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 04/11/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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So, will Obama change his mind again if he is the nominee? You betcha!

It get's better and better every day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 04/11/2008
- jeg I'm a Fan of jeg 15 fans permalink

Why should he? Not saying he will (or won't), mind you, but Sen. Obama has said he wants advisors who disagree with him. It helps him think, and sharpen his own opinion.

Search for an article called "The Obama I Know" from, the Chicago Tribune. It's easy to google.

Heck, I'll make it simpler:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped0314obamamar14,0,7185898.story

Well worth reading for anyone who has a passing interest in the presidential election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 04/11/2008

A) Obama never changed his mind
B) It doesn't make a difference what one of the hundreds of people who have endorsed him think
C) Are you serious?
D) You can smell the desperation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 04/11/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Thats what some dont get there is somethings that Obama will NOT change his mind on. Setting a time table is one, the telecom bill is another anything that subverts the constitution and closing guantanamo. Obama has a strong mind and he himself said so that he is capapble of making strong decisions even when they are unpopular.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 04/11/2008
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It's not a war, it's an occupation.

Everybody needs to stop being so scared of looking like we were defeated.
America does not lose wars.
We did not lose Vietnam. What the hell was there to lose? We lost a lot of soldiers, for sure, but we inflicted 10 times the damage on them. We didn't get defeated by any means, no matter what anyone says. We stopped the North from taking over. By the time we left, it didn't matter anymore.
We just ended our occupation and got out.

Same with Iraq. All we need is to end the occupation and get out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 04/11/2008

One way or another, I think members of the same team can disagree at times, and why shouldn't that be ok?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 04/11/2008

You mean like Powell and Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 04/11/2008

Yes, exactly like Powell and Bush. Without the (albeit slight) moderating influence of Powell, we'd probably be in WWIII right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 04/12/2008

"Why do you want to know?"

Oh. No reason really. It's just that a few Americans would like to have a president who's committed to ending the war ASAP. Ah, but forget it. Send me an email....n­ext year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 04/11/2008
- several I'm a Fan of several 6 fans permalink

Sam, your logic is extremely flawed:

"Sens. Obama and Clinton have called for the withdrawal of one to two combat brigades per month over the course of 16 months -- by definition, a target date."

That is not "a target date." Example: Jan 09 through March 09 you draw down 2 brigades per month. Conditions on the ground change so from April 09 to July 09 you draw down only 1 brigade per month. And so on and so forth until done.

So, tell me the exact 'target date' resulting from such an unpredictable scenario. Go ahead, help me with the math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/11/2008
- Sylmason I'm a Fan of Sylmason 9 fans permalink
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The poor guy is old. Give him a break. Plus, you can't always agree with everything your guy says. What's ther purpose of this article? He obviously agrees Hillary should go home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/11/2008
- tompoe I'm a Fan of tompoe 20 fans permalink

So, why is Lee Hamilton described as "one of the most respected foreign policy minds in Washington"? This is the head of the 9/11 commission that deliberately eliminated any facts surrounding the fall of the towers and bldg#7, right? The same head of the 9/11 commission that deliberately eliminated any facts surrounding the disintegration of an airliner right down to the seats when it hit the pentagon, right? Wouldn't it be better to ignore what he has to say, until he closes the credibility gap, and absolves himself of any complicity in war crimes before, during, and after his entrance as a spokesperson? The guy stinks of sewage being spewed by Bush and gang.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 04/11/2008
- Wiredwilly I'm a Fan of Wiredwilly 23 fans permalink

tompoe -

go to youtube -
watch the Alex Jones interview with Aaron Russo.
lee hamilton is either a complete fool or a traitor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 04/11/2008
- bwither I'm a Fan of bwither 42 fans permalink
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Around the 45-second Mr. Hamilton says that he feels that Obama is in favor of a responsible withdrawal, and that he is a fan of such a plan.

Mr. Hamilton not favoring a precipitous withdrawal is not a surprise. The Iraq Study Group Report concluded as much. It also had the same opinion of 1) staying the course, 2) a troop escalation and, 3) a Biden-style soft-partitioning plan.

The actual plan outlined by the group's report are a part of Obama's Iraq plan; things like talking to Iran and Saudi Arabia and getting them invested in Iraq's political reconciliation and commiting to not leave our military hostage to the needs of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 04/11/2008
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