Obama: I Would Have Fired Mark Penn

How difficult was it for Hillary to discern that Penn should be dumped early and fast? Her husband, the former President didn't like him, Harold ickes didn't like him, Patti Solis-Doyle didn't like him... most of the subordinant campaign staff didn't like him...but Hillary liked him...she ignored all coments against him...and finally finally he did something SHE didn't like and she dumped him ....she sure took a long time picking up that ringing phone!

Taylor Marsh said:
"I don't know all the men in Hillary's orbit, obviously, but I know or have had exchanges with a few of the big guns. Howard Wolfson may be a lot of things, but "asexual cream puff" does not come to mind. Political pit bull, maybe, and I mean that in the sweetest sense. Jay Carson may not be the Obamabot favorite, but "asexual cream puff" isn't one of them either. I haven't met Howard yet, though I've been on many a call, also exchanging emails with him. "Rancid?" Try candid good guy for Clinton; someone you are lucky to have on your side. There are others that work behind the scene that are anything but "cream puffs." Ever met Peter Daou? Know anything about him? Let's just say political tough guy is part of his persona. Don't mess with these Clinton men.

Paglia's prism is narrowed to that 1950s John Wayne - Burt Lancaster drag your woman off by the hair type of man. You know, men who were hunks on screen, but brutal to the women who dared venture outside the role traditional America had crafted for them...

Paglia wouldn't know a feminist male fighting for his woman if he came up and swept her off her feet.

So please save us all this whining, over exercised, hack Freudian analysis, Camille, and just strap one on already. Or maybe that's the problem; you can't carry it and it's so obviously getting in your way."

Sorry, typo - GOOLSBEE

So, you're in favor of KEEPING Mark Penn on the campaign?

compared to Wright, Penn is wrong

Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity UCC --
one) amidst a life time of other sermons and proclamations that were faithful ministry to his congregation and their neighbors, and
two) in the context of his congregation that knew and expected challenge about the issues at the intersection of life and faith, and
three) in the tradition of the United Church of Christ which welcomes critical as well as supportive response to what is shared from a free and prophetic pulpit
-- was preaching to his choir .

THE KEY, I submit, is that Rev. Wright was preaching to a congregation that had the power and the responsibility to call him as their pastor, or - if needed - to curtail his call. Barack Obama, one member among thousands, had a less than 0.05 % voice and vote in the continuation or curtailing of Rev. Wright's tenure at Trinity UCC.

HOWEVER: Mark Penn was serving solely at the determination of Hillary Clinton as the highest paid staff member of her campaign. And Clinton has 100% voice and vote to continue or to curtail Mark Penn's call to his position in her campaign. Penn and ultimately Hillary Clinton are 100% wrong.

I'm sure that the Clinton campaign is very aware that factcheck.org has researched and debunked this claim. It was in fact the Clinton campaign who contacted the Canadians and told them to take the NAFTA talk "with a grain of salt" as the Canadian Prime Minister's top aide said in a room full of reporters. Obama advisor Goolsbee did speak with someone from Canada while in Chicago, but he didn't say anything in private that was different then what Obama says in public i.e. NAFTA needs to be renegotiated to protect American jobs. Samantha Powers was gone in a heartbeat for calling Mrs. Clinton a monster. Calling someone a name is impolite, but it doesn't put American jobs at risk as both Bill Clinton's Columbian lobbying and Mark Penn's Columbian lobbying behind closed doors did. The Clintons are trying to rewrite history and put a giant spin on it---AGAIN. Yesterday, Bill Clinton told 8 whopper lies in one speech in his efforts to rewrite history. These people want power. And it makes me very uncomfortable how badly they want it. These are not patriots longing to serve their country. Indeed, Obama is the only one who ever talks about serving. The Clintons don't see themselves as servants. They see themselves as a dynasty. Be careful folks. They can't do it to us unless we let them distract us with their lies and spins.

You guys are really stupid. Do you read? Penn is still clinton's chief strategists. She has paid this man millions for years. Which tells me they are all i the same bed. Anyways, the guy who spoke to Canadian people was a supporter. He did not work for the campaign, has never been on the payroll, nor did he speak for the campaign.

Now if that's too difficult for your intellect I'll try it another way. Hillary's guy told her to talk against NAFTA and the Colombian trade deal, and while she was speaking he was making deals with the Colombians out of the back door. Got it? Try The J Notes.

http://www.thejnotes.com/

I guess, by your logic every Catholic should "get away" from the Catholic Church for all the child molesters and abusers they had, right? And every fundamentalist needs to "get away" from their church because of offensive comments they make. Ever heard of John Hagee?
Do a little research, try to read and inform yourself. Its more exciting to have an intelligent argument.

Everyday, the Wright story becomes less and less spin by Obama's detractors. The truth about Wright, an American hero, who served His country as a United States Marine grows more and more

The blog was about Mark Penn not Obama's campaign workers.
Mark Penn , who was employed by a foreign country to lobby for another NAFTA -like trade agreement.
Columbia,where we get all our good cocaine from.
The Obama haters are out in force.
As far as we know Hillary is not a muslim and none of Obama's staff is employed as a lobbyist for a foreign country.

"There are many intelligent people who are former Obama supporters who were not the least bit fooled, I am among them."

Ironic.

Obama is an articulate speaker. After 8 years of Bush, it's sometimes difficult to recognize that when it appears.

Your point? Samantha Powers called Hillary a monster. That's probably the least insulting thing said this entire campaign. Rev Wright is no longer part of Obama's campaign, but he's still involved in Obama's life. He's known the man for a very long time. You may cut people out of your life on a whim, but that's you.

Obama has done what he needs to do as far as his Presidential campaign is concerned.
After he becomes President, I fully believe he should bring Samantha Powers back on board as a foreign relations advisor. She's a smart woman, and God knows that D.C. needs more smart women. As far as Rev. Wright, he will play no part in the White House. Not because of his words, but because there's no reason for him to be there.

Monday, March 3: The Canadian embassy in Washington says it "deeply regrets" the affair, and that "there was no intention to convey, in any way" that Obama was being inconsistent about NAFTA:

Wednesday, March 5: The Canadian Press news agency reports that the whole controversy originated with a remark to several journalists by the prime minister's chief of staff, Ian Brodie. He allegedly said that a representative of the Clinton campaign had called the Canadian embassy in D.C. to say her anti-NAFTA comments shouldn't be taken at face value.

The Canadian Press: "Quite a few people heard it," said one source in the room. "He said someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. ... That someone called us and told us not to worry."

FactCheck.org: The Facts About 'NAFTA-Gate'
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_facts_about_nafta-gate.html

Agree completely. Also, isn't it funny how after hearing so much about the alleged incident, we hear almost nothing about it having been debunked. Methinks the media likes the status quo, aka mccain/clinton.

That's odd, I heard Obama admit to the whole thing on CNN, was he making it up, why are Obama supporters so uniformed. You don't even believe your own candidate! Strange.