Axelrod: Obama Regrets But Won't Apologize For His Remarks

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Surrogates to Sen. Barack Obama said on Saturday that while the Senator regrets the phrasing of his remarks, in which he said Pennsylvanians were bitter and "clinged" to guns, religion and anti-immigration sentiment because of economic frustrations, he would ultimately not apologize for them.

"He regrets the wording of the remarks and he was sorry for the offense that anybody took from them," said Obama's senior strategist, David Axelrod, "but I think the most important thing is that the essence of what he said is something he feels very strongly about. There is a real anger among many in the communities... they are tired of politicians who come around at election time and express their solicitude as part of a tactic and don't follow through on it."

The defense of Obama, who is under withering attacks that his comments - first reported by Huffington Post's Off The Bus - were elitist, out of touch and condescending, did not end there. Other surrogates to the Senator insisted that Obama's political opponents should be the ones offering regret for politicizing the issue.

"The only apologies that would be appropriate would be from the Sens. [Hillary] Clinton and [John] McCain's campaigns who are trying to make an issue out of this," said John Futterman, mayor of Bradick, Pennsylvania.

Unfortunately for Futterman, such apologies seem all but certain not to happen. Indeed, an hour before the Obama campaign convened its conference call, the Clinton camp held one of its own. In it, surrogates to the New York Democrat took repeated jabs at the "bitterness" remark, saying, on several occasions, that it made Obama out-of-touch and unelectable in small-town America.

"I found them to be condescending and disappointing," said Clinton's national campaign co-chair and Iowa Governor, Tom Vilsack. "They reflected in my view a flawed reading of people who live in small towns in Pennsylvania and other states... I found his remarks undercut his message of hope... What they want is not a pat on the head from a presidential candidate; what they want is a pat on the back."

In addition to the call, the Clinton campaign peppered reporters throughout Saturday with video clips and written statements of surrogates (in Indiana, North Carolina and Pennsylvania - three upcoming primary states) criticizing Obama's remarks. In a separate interview with Talking Points Memo, Geoffrey Garin, Clinton's new chief strategist, said the comments could be "damaging" to Obama in a general election and would serve as fodder for Sen. Clinton to woo the support of superdelegates.

Even Obama and his supporters acknowledged that his words didn't come off right.

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"I don't think I would have used the same words that he used. I don't think that people are bitter, I do think people are angry," said Rick Gray, mayor of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. "I think people are upset about the economic conditions of this county... They see executives getting large bonuses and they see themselves losing their pension and their health care. And there is a level of anger that is just seething there."

Acknowledging a phrasing error seems to be one component of Obama's hopes to stem the blowback from his remarks. In addition, his campaign, starting on Friday evening, has sought to call out Sen. Clinton as the one more out of touch with small town America: pointing both to revelations that she and her husband have made more than $100 million since leaving the White House, and the fact that her campaign (and not Obama's) accepts donations from registered Washington lobbyists.

On Saturday, Clinton's surrogates were asked whether the later issue concerned them in the same way manner that they were about Obama's remarks. The answer, among all six conference call attendees was a resounding: "No."

Clinton, they retorted, had stronger roots and a greater understanding of small town issues -- lobbyist money or individual income aside.

"I think it is difficult for a democratic candidates to be succeed in a general election if he misunderstands people who live in small towns," said Vilsack. "We are going to have to have someone on the top of my ticket who understands [god and guns]."


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Surrogates to Sen. Barack Obama said on Saturday that while the Senator regrets the phrasing of his remarks, in which he said Pennsylvanians were bitter and "clinged" to guns, religion and anti-immigr...
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- Elga I'm a Fan of Elga permalink

If Senator Obama squeaks by and gets the Dem nomination despite his pastor's remarks and now these stupid remarks of his own, the Dem Party will have a very weak candidate for the general and the Dems will blow this golden opp to take back the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Are you a Democrat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 04/13/2008
- pdxuser I'm a Fan of pdxuser 2 fans permalink

Democrats have to get over their fear of these scandal-of-the-day contrivances. There will be plenty of them no matter who the nominee is. But the Clintons are terrible with them. They still continue to lie about sniper fire, for example. They turn scandals-of-the-day into enduring truisms about their character.

Rather than fretting about these issues, we should invest our time into exposing McCain's weaknesses and failures. He's quite the inveterate liar about Iraq, for example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Clinton is running a campaign of molehills:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21231

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 04/13/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

"Obama surprised Iowans aren't asking him about corn."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqJ7N8wy5E

Obama looks down his nose at farmers in Iowa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 04/13/2008

I think it is oh so funny how all the rich, powerful, "elitist" politicians and pundits are commenting on how insulting Obama's comment was to the the poor struggling out of work regular "Joe"- what a joke. The truth is, regular people in this Country understand what he said and agrees with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 04/13/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

I sure do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 04/13/2008

Actions speak louder than words. The Clintons have spent their entire lives scraping off their middle class and low income history and snuggling up to rich people who can help their careers. The Clintons want to be wealthy, have made every effort to become wealthy, and have not supported the poor people they left behind. These super affluent politicians are strivers, upwardly mobile people who do not care where their wealth comes from or what foreign source contributes to it. They are a part of our history we should remember as a warning against too much emphasis on materialism, as we move forward with Obama into an era of greater awareness. We have to care for ourselves AND for one another. We can be prosperous without being crazy for acquisition. We can have social programs that make it possible for EVERYONE to have the chance at prosperity in America, not just a few striving and relentless individuals like the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 04/13/2008

What I so dislike about Hillary is she never misses an opportunity to take cheap shots. Did Obama say one word about her and Bill's Bosnia lies NO, he didn't utter one word. It's called taking the high ground, something she and her husband no nothing about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 04/13/2008

Sen. Obama just has to face the fact that there is a majority of people in this country with attention span the size of a ants ass. They can't process more a sentences in 60 seconds, so when he makes comments he has to realize only 3 or 4 words get processed. If you took the time to listen to his entire statement they you would know he was not insulting people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 04/13/2008
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It is really a majority of people in the world. The whole world is talking about Obama's opinion of small town, working-class Americans.

I admit that those few words by Obama are just in small crack in the facade that was created and focus grouped by Axelrod.

But through this crack we can see a little more of the real Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/13/2008

And the more we see, the more we like. He spoke honestly. That's got to no longer be a dirty thing in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/13/2008

Obviously, you're an idiot. Obama speaks the truth. Hillary and the like sent my Dad's job to Costa Rica. What did they do to help our town. Not a thing. (Sarcastically) I am sure people in IOWA are just thrilled to see Maytag pack up in IOWA and move production to China, Mr. Vilz. Yes, I am a gun totting, hunting, Christian, who don't believe abortion should be legal, and that if you can't afford the kid you shouldn't be having sex, in a little town in Kansas. It is people like you with the brain of a dinosaur that put GW in office and think that the Clintons are any better. If you honestly care, watch the PBS video "Surviving the Good Times". It is about the suffering of American families whose jobs went away due to Clinton's NAFTA and China trade policy. Go ahead, don't vote for Obama, so I can laugh at you when you don't have health care, lose your home, and can't afford to put gas in your car, and food on the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/13/2008
- barrista I'm a Fan of barrista 8 fans permalink

Whoa man, i think Seattlelite agrees with u.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 04/13/2008

"You know" (to use Hillary Clinton's favorite arrogant phraseology), when I worked for 15 years as a hotel housekeeper at a Marriott in Western New York, I heard constantly from the management how upbeat we were, and how focused on getting on with our lives. I heard similar words from Hillary Clinton in a speech she made while she was on the Board of Directors of Walmart; Walmart's employees hear it constantly.

Nothing could more specifically reflect the elite point of view. Not that I'm never upbeat, nor that I'm bitter every moment of the day, nor most working class people I know, but we're often very concerned, worried, and at times angry. With his background working in Chicago's ghettos, Barack Obama certainly is far more in touch with how working class people feel than Hillary Clinton, who spent her pre-political life as a successful corporate attorney, a Walmart Board member, and successful politician's wife. I have had it up to here with her very arrogant, girl scout leader way of talking to people.

I think that it was not a bright idea to mention rural Pennsylvania's backwardness to the people of rural Pennsylvania, nor are economic problems specifically to blame for it, and Senator Obama threw his own views about guns into the mix. Neither is this what the "firestorm" is about. This is just what occurred to Hillary Clinton to bounce off the walls today, in her hopes of convincing someone to vote for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 04/13/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

That's you opinion villandra.­.. in the enbd you might be right.
But just think how people are going feel about Obama after this video starts airing as attack ads in Pennsylvania this week:

Listen to the laughter. Well-off Democrats chortling with Barrack over those stupid bitter working class Democrats who don't have enough sense to support Obama.

Watch the video that will sink his campaign:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Video_from_San_Francisco.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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You are a liar. Nobody says stupid. And they are laughing at how difficult it is for a black man with Muslim names to gain traction with a bunch of bigots.

You just love the bigotry, it serves your reactionary purposes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 04/13/2008
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How 'bout we watch this one too...shal­l we???

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M&feature=bz301

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 04/13/2008

I did watch it and I'm amazed that you would link to that considering that the laughter had NOTHING do with his comments about guns or religion, the laughter only came with these comments..­.

hey feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/13/2008
- GrandmaSue I'm a Fan of GrandmaSue 7 fans permalink

mediahack, you are trying to be a manipulator, by your own words, by your compiling of information, by your screen name. I'm uncomfortable about those who try to manipulate me. I really don't like it in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 04/13/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

Ok maybe votes are too confusing what about HER actions:

1. Campaign is Lead by lobbyists who are paid millions while her volunteers work for free
2. Made public comments positive of Mccain and negative of Obama
3. Pulled a "shame on you, Barrack" WTF was that about and who is she to talk to him that way?
4. Campaign called a fellow presidential contender a JUDAS bc he didn't endorse her
5. Backed ferraro's comments that Barrack is where he is because he is Black.
6. Stiffed smalle businesses of their invoices for multiple campaign events.
7. Staff's heathcare coverage lapses because of lack of payment.

Clinton you are shameful. You are not a fighter you are obsessed with power.

There is a difference.

Leave us alone while we try to heal this republic.

America watch John Adams on HBO try to find the courage and energy to keep the union strong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/13/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

Hillary Clinton is comedy.

She out of all people claims to understand small town values?

Yeah like the small town value of going to NEW YORK to run for Senate?

Hillary you are a fraud and have been exposed for some time.

Obama was trying to make a point. Maybe it came out wrong but his real point remains for anyone who cares to try and understand it. You can choose to be offended as clintonesta's are with anything he says.

Which is of more concern?

Hillary's flat out LIES about the bosnia sniper? x5 (yeah right the potus's wife landed under snipers)
Hillary's flat out LIES about her NAFTA support and her backstabbing call to the Canadian parlament
Hillary's flat out LIES about the columbia free trade that Billy Clint and Mark Penn support
Hillary's flat out LIES about her tax returns, only a few days left ya know.
Hillary's flat out LIES about her experience

Ok maybe LIES don't do it for you. Lets look at her Voting record:

Send America's best to die in IRAQ with questionalbe facts at best? HRC VOTES YES
Rattle a sabre at IRAN by naming part of their military terrorists? HRC VOTES YES
Bankruptcy bill that banks and credit cards campanies wanted? HRC VOTES YES

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/13/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

mrdontplay ... If you can, first admit that Obama is vulnerable, then take an honest look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 04/13/2008

For every video portraying Obama negatively there will be one that portrays him positively- as it will be with any candidate. McCain, Clinton and Obama are all vulnerable for different reasons- do you really think that Clinton or McCain are vulnerable?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 04/13/2008
- barrista I'm a Fan of barrista 8 fans permalink

lol are you seriously asking people to look at that garbage, compiled by some amateur youtube 'director'?

whatever floats your boat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 04/13/2008

Obama was condescending and I am not from PA. But I have lost a good job. My area in the Midwest has been economically depressed and it is hard to find a job. I am bitter, but not at Washington. It's the corporation's greed. I do not cling to a gun. I don't even own one. Never will. I do rely on my faith. I am not a racist. My hope is with Hillary. Not an arrogant, hater like Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/13/2008

I believe you've just ellaborated on the point President Elect Obama was making. You lost a job and relied on your faith. You stated that you are bitter, just as many who are going through economic hard times. But, to call President Elect Obama a hater is unfortunate. He is demonstrating empathy for those who are struggling financially. This is what I want in a president; someone who truly understands how Americans are feeling, and not relying on these rediculous polling. Please do not chop the legs from under the person who will be reaching out hand to place you on more stable ground.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/13/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 33 fans permalink

Georgy

Like you - I lived much of my life in the Midwest. I am not bitter or frustrated either. When I hear Obama claim that I cling to guns and religion - it makes me realize Obama is the one who clings to his religion to explain to him who I am and other working and middle class Americans. He is the one who attended church for 20 years where they preach that other Americans are to blame for economic situations people are in.

I also believe Obama is an arrogant hater. Maybe alot of his supporters are too. Obama seemed to have an easy time at that San Francisco donor meeting speaking down about me. He pushes his chin up in the air and talks down to Hillary supporters. He really does not know why we do not trust him. He thinks he is smart enough - has more money - is good looking - and has been able to bamboozle many Democrats. Why can't he close the deal with half the Democrats? I agree with you - it is not because of racism. I think it is because the more we watch and listen to Obama, he has no passion for US. He has little passion for America. Does he really know our history as Americans? Does he embrace our history and struggles? How could he represent all of us when he talks about us the way he does?

Who is Obama for? Obama. Not for most

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/13/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 33 fans permalink

I believe the blame is with our economic system that is allowing corporations to concentrate their wealth and then getting our government to use our military to defend those corporations in their investments elsewhere. I think the Republicans are to blame for their policies that let the corporations off the hook and have returned little to the American people.

There is a balance here between the Republican policies and us Democrats who want profits to also include our future. We need resources to solve problems of our health care system, infrastructure, and global warming - education and new jobs. Hillary's attitude and her public policy background would serve us well. She gives me hope we can solve our problems together and keep us safe.

Who is Obama for? Obama. Not for most Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 04/13/2008
- DaRight I'm a Fan of DaRight 6 fans permalink

......

POOR DEM SUPERDELAG­ATES....


The wheels are about to fall off the MESSIAH ( Rezko, REV. WRIGHT, MY GRANNY is a typical white bigot, rural people cling to GUNS BIBLES and XENOPHOBIA to cope etc) in the primary...­.

The Broomed One and her sidekick (Bubba Bill) can't synchronize their LIES.....

What's a SUPERDELEGATE TO DO?


.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/13/2008

Keep believing, just a little longer. Soon the pain will end. We only have a few weeks left. Please let the trolls babble. If they bring up lies challenge but I'd ignore these ranting opinions as what they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 04/13/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

Barrack is on the ropes.
Now that you know he is vulnerable, take an honest look at the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/13/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Here is comes.....­...from Politico, no less.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9564.html


Gee, all of a sudden, people "get" Hillary. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Politico is a right wing site. That may explain your comfort with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/13/2008

Do you have a point or are your Depends leaking again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/13/2008
- jjc4good I'm a Fan of jjc4good 2 fans permalink

Uhmm... he's "on the ropes" for saying the truth? Please. If you'd know anything about group psychology you'd know that people always look for scapegoats when things aren't going their way. Usually these scapegoats are people that don't look like them or that have different accents or different sexual orientations, etc., etc. We all do this. The fact that poor rural people have been voting against their financial self-interest and for demagogues that scare them be appealing to surface issues is a truism in American politics of recent years.

That video youtube video is a complete waste of time. Obviously whoever put it together is no student of American history. All of those phrases are key slogans or ideas from the nation's past. Criticizing someone from using them is like criticizing people from saying "no taxation without representation" or "all men are created equal." Bravo.

Clinton is the one that has lot's of explaining to do: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-foundation-t_n_96413.html

What's up with the Saudi Royal family giving Bill's charity 10 million dollars? How hard is Hillary going to press for alternative fuels? And you're criticizing Obama for using "yes we can." LOL
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/13/2008
- December7 I'm a Fan of December7 2 fans permalink

Bitter and Angry in Rural Pennsylvania: Obama's Reality vs. Hillary's Fantasy
By astral66 - April 12, 2008, 4:40PM

Maybe there aren't Bubbas driving around in pickup trucks with the classic bumpersticker "God, Guns and Guts Made America Free" where Obama's detractors live, but here in rural Pennsylvania that line may as well replace "e pluribus unum" as the motto on the national currency.

In the end, I guess it's the difference between candidates who read from a script that has been carefully worked over by advisors, and a candidate who speaks directly to his audience in his own words. Occasionally one uses one word, when perhaps another word would have been a little bit clearer in its meaning. Which speaker would you rather listen to?

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/bitter-and-angry-in-rural-penn.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 04/13/2008
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God, guns, and guts did make America free. Do you feel bitter about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Free thinking made America free.

God had squat to do with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/13/2008
- FDNH I'm a Fan of FDNH 2 fans permalink

Joint apologies from the McCain and Clinton camps released:

"We, John McCain and Hillary Clinton take full responsibility for this latest perception of Obama's insensitivity. We are both sorry that we are causing Obama to come off as an elitist. We are sorry we made him say these insensitive and dastardly things. We are sorry we provoked the bitter and racist remarks by Reverend Wright. We are sorry that we have prevented Michelle from being proud of her country. We are sorry about the way we made Obama and Michelle take money from Rezko. We are very sorry we made him lie about taking contributions from big oil.

"We acknowledge that Obama and his supporters have the right, by virtue of their virtue, to make an issue about any statement, stumble, gaffe, decision or action we take. We also acknowledge that any time we make an issue about anything Obama does, we are being cynical, lying, racist, politician­s."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 04/13/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

That's funny FDNH.
What is perplexing is the Obama camp's inability to respond to this gaffe.
The first reaction was indignation of the criticism. For example, watch the crew at CNN ( Toobin and Cafferty et al).

Then a desperate attempt to spin the clinging to guns and religion.

But in the end, the damage is done with this must-see video of Obama's remarks to the San Francisco crowd. Listen to the laughter. Well-off Democrats chortling with Barrack over those stupid bitter working class Democrats who don't have enough sense to support Obama. Watch the video that will sink his campaign.: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Video_from_San_Francisco.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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The "crew at CNN" = "the Obama camp"?

Since when? What in the hell are you blathering about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Sink his campaign? Nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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You a Republican?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/13/2008
- FDNH I'm a Fan of FDNH 2 fans permalink

No. Just awake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/13/2008

Our Founding Fathers never meant for politics to be a career. They were just supposed to be civic minded folks that would step in to help run this government.

I definitely find Obama to be the most civic minded of the three candidates. Hillary has good qualities, but seems to lust for power. McCain glorifies war and seems to be making things up as he goes along regarding issues outside of war.

I despise the blood bath that is going on here. Yes, I would dearly love to have Obama as our next President, but if Hillary becomes the nominee then I will back her. I was horrified to see polls that indicated that some of you will vote for McCain if your Democratic favorite doesn’t win the nomination.

You might want to ask yourself “How would my life stand up to 15 months of being under the microscope?” It’s hard to fathom just how grueling being on the campaign trail must be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/13/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Any Democrat that would vote for McCain is a gutter dwelling traitor to the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 04/13/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

The DEM party is a traitor to the party.

- Superdelegates

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/13/2008

Counting on the stupid factor.

One more time... the "cling" wording was a reference to CLINGING to hot button issues that are stirred by politicians and media to distract Americans from focusing on things that matter. Go on - vote for the people who say they will protect you from people who will (never really) take away your guns, protect you from gay marriage, flag burners, or some other stupid nonsense.

What if I said that most Americans are just too stupid to see through the distortion and noise. I do not want to believe that this is true. Clinton and McCain are counting on the stupid factor. They are the ones who talk down to me, because they think I am too stupid to seek out the entire context of Obama's remarks.

Who brought you Al Gore invented the internet, John Kerry caused his own Vietnam injuries, John McCain has an illegitimate black baby, Iraq was responsible for 9/11, and on and on? The people who count on stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/13/2008
- GrandmaSue I'm a Fan of GrandmaSue 7 fans permalink

You cut right to the core of it. Though, I would replace the word stupid with the word ignorant. Although there are stupid people, I suspect more are ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/13/2008

You are probably correct. However, the term "ignorant" may appear as too elitist, and I would be afraid of offending my own small town, working class values.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 04/13/2008
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