Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"

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First Posted: 04-13-08 02:41 PM   |   Updated: 04-21-08 05:12 AM

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president in 1991 -- have now surfaced.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:

"You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"

For comparison's sake, here is Obama's statement, reported by Mayhill Fowler for Huffington Post's OffTheBus:

Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter). [...]


But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

What do you think -- are they similar?

Update: Jason Linkins notes a statement from Harvard political scientist Theda Skocpol to Talking Points Memo, which reads in part:

I have been in meetings with the Clintons and their advisors where very clinical things were said in a very-detached tone about unwillingness of working class voters to trust government -- and Bill Clinton -- and about their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing.

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
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Hillary Clinton's attacks on Obama are actually good for him, and for the Democratic Party. His heart is in the right place, he's describing problems we're facing. The more they try to make him look bad, the more people like me take the time to listen to him and realize he's the only candidate who really supports us. Fact is, everyone makes mistakes in communication, and the more that happens now, the better the Obama team will handle the same or similar problems when he faces swift boat attacks by Republicans. Most Americans are fed up with Washington and the status quo. Middle class workers are falling out of the middle class and working people all over the country are struggling with the economy. The Yes We Can movement is as much about the rest of us wanting to take back our government as it is about Obama's candidacy. Yeah,I’m bitter all right. But Obama’s race gives me more hope than I’ve ever had in my country. Change is coming. Run Barack Run!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 04/15/2008
- burnt I'm a Fan of burnt 7 fans permalink

The Fool with the Hill

Day after day,
Along with the Hill,
The man with the foolish grin is lying perfectly.­... still,
And nobody wants to show him,
They can see that he's just a tool,
But he never gives a straight answer,
But the tool with the Hill
Sees the fun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world sinning 'round.

Well on his way, head in a cloud,
The man with the empty mind is babbling perfectly loud
But nobody deems to hear him,
For they know that he's just a tool
And no one will go quite near him
But the fool with the Hill
Sees the fun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world sinning 'round.

And nobody wants to know him
For they think that he's just a tool
for he never gives a straight answer
But the fool with the Hill
Sees the fun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world sinning 'round.

And nobody wants to go near him
'cause they see that he's just a tool
for he never gives a straight answer
But the fool with the Hill
Sees the fun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world sinning 'round.

woah ooh,
Round and round and round.

He never listens to them,
He's a tool
The fool with the Hill
Sees the fun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world sinning 'round.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 04/15/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

I'm on this mission to seek answers. I'm going to continue until somebody gives me a response from the powers that be.

Why can't we get the TRUTH OUT OF OUR MEDIA?
Why do they LIE TO US AND THINK WE DON'T KNOW IT?
Why are they covering for THE CLINTONS"
Why do they pick every chance to throw Obama under the bus?
Why do they hate their own CITIZENS, families, neighbors, acquaintances, friends, all those who are not getting the truth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 04/15/2008

Our world is now in complete control of the corporate oligarchy. So all media is subjective opinion spinning; most people DON'T know it, and more still don't care (apathy? a feeling of total helplessness?); the Clinton Machine is pro-corporate oligarchy so it's in their best interest to maintain an uninformed public; Obama is a threat to the status quo (include the fact that racism continues to run deep in the U.S.); they hate themselves.

So..... you want a response from someone? Or someone who is a (power(s) who is? The power is you. The power is an informed citizenry that is capable of taking action. No corporate power will respond with truth as they revile in their own lies. "The revolution will not be televised, not be televised. The revolution will not be televised.­"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 04/15/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

I love your answer and if I weren't 64, I would ask who the hell are you? But how can I join the revolution? I believe every word you have spoken because it fits well with what is going on and my gut tells me it is the truth. I know that I am not and will never be helpless like they expect of me. I'm a fighter and will fight all the way to the end. I will not give them my hopes, dreams, and love for God. I hate all of them with a passion and whatever I can do to put a crinkle in their armor, I will. My God is good and these creeps are evil as hell. Thank you. You have made my day and have given me a renewed hope. Bless you my friend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/15/2008

why isn´t cocaine legal_

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 04/15/2008

We can't get the truth out of our media because it isn't OUR media. It's bought and paid for by corporate America. The money comes from advertisers and advertisers pay big money when the ratings are up. Television stations, newspapers and radio stations aren't owned by the little guy so what makes you think that it's going to be the kind of media you want?

If you aren't happy with MSM, why are you watching? Do you think that if you sit there long enough, there won't be some sort of spin or skewed view of what or who you're seeing? It takes a hell of a lot of reading and researching to get to the truth and maybe that's not a bad thing.

30 second sound bites are all you're going to find on MSM. Dig deeper and the truth can be found and you'll certainly be a hell of a lot more infomed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 04/15/2008

West Coastian, Thank you for taking your time to send this blog.
I truly do not want to over use the word, however, your message is brilliant.

The propaganda American have received in more years well before my 61 years. By the time I was born the nation had been in several wars.

If American in the 21st centruy is now acknowledging the men in the war zone has brain damage, it is like the message is only covering current times, it did not occur in these other wars. This is the most asinine way of thinking. How many years did it take to discover lead in paint was harmful to the brain? Therefore, before they discovered the harm, those people who did get brain damage don't count. They are just the low life of our nations, they belong in jail or better yet put them an electric chair and pull the switch.
Lead in the brain don't count. Now that a Bill Moyer journalist on PBS has a show the large % of men in prison today have lead damaged brains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/16/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

Here is my comment as a disabled citizen. I live in North Carolina and I, too, am as bitter as everyone else because of exactly what Obama said. I'm 64 and have voted for many presidents, most of which I did not know as well as the two nominees running now. And to think that my votes didn't much matter in the last 8-10 elections because they were rigged and the machines programmed to give the powers-that-be the president they wanted anyway. So my vote didn't matter much. That's why I want my vote to matter this time, very much. There's no guarantees I will see another election year. That's why it hurts me more than most to see this election go to the dogs like it's doing all because of The Clintons who are selfish enough to care more about power than they could care about us, the people.

If I had not have seen this with my own eyes, I would not have believed it. Not in this country. And to see that they are backed up by the MEDIA, and possibly even this site, newspapers, radio and television, makes my heart truly hurt. You just don't know how I feel.

I need answers. That's why I deserve answers. I've been a citizen of the US all my life. I did not ask to come here. My ancestors were brought here and made a way for me to live my life here in peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 04/15/2008
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

It seems like Obama was trying to summarize two thoughts in one sentence making it sound like a wider generalization than it actually was. I was a little disturbed myself at first until I read the full context. Taken as a whole, you can see he was trying to make the same point as Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 04/15/2008
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That makes sense because many times we are caught up with two thoughts and both get intermingled with each other as a result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 04/15/2008

Seems like once again Obama stole material from those who came before him and mangled it.

The difference between what Bill said and what Obama said is that Bill spoke from a life time of experience growing up in mainland America and really listening to people. Obama grew up going to privileged schools (living only 29 of his 46 years on the mainland) and having people to listen to him. Obama was better off with his shallow speeches--every time he tries to go deep, he blows it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 04/15/2008
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Sophie,

Bill grew up in roughly the same economic conditions as Obama, and then attended Georgetown, Oxford, and Yale. On scholarships, just like Obama.

As for living off the mainland..­.. is that a jab at Hawaii? You have a problem with the state of Hawaii because it's an island? Maybe it's a jab at Indonesia.­.. because of course living in a foreign country (as Bill did while at Oxford) is a terrible idea... it makes people narrow minded and unable to relate to foreign leaders.

As for foreign experience, if you're supporting McCain, he was born in Panama, and if you're supporting Hillary, she was almost shot by snipers in Bosnia!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/15/2008
- Mchris1947 I'm a Fan of Mchris1947 4 fans permalink

I'm fascinated when Obama is painted as an Elitist. I'm especially amused when I'm expected to "contrast" his Elitist credentials with his opponent Hillary.

Hillary went to Wellesley (Private Women's College), then Yale Law School. She has spent most of her adult life, moving from mansion to mansion: Gov Mansion in Arkansas, to the White House, and now to a mansion in upstate New York. She's been to 80 countries, but nearly all her travel has been paid for with taxpayer dollars.

And yet somehow Obama is the elitist...­Hmmm

And let's now forget McCain, though it's easy to do with all the distractions of the Dem Primary. McCain dumped his first wife, who waited for him to be released from POW camp, and upgraded to a younger richer one. So he's been living in the lap of the luxury his wife has provided him for the last 28 years, but Obama is the elitist...­Hmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 04/15/2008

So what are you saying, that Americans who do not live in the continental U.S don't experience economic woes? Are you saying that Sen. Obama's choice to work with people who had lost their jobs in an urban area don't have the same woes as ones in rural areas? Are you saying that going to Oxford gives you a better understanding of rural America? Your statement tells me how indoctrinated to the status quo you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/16/2008
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More like Bill speaking from a lifetime of repressed, latent, racist thought. Kinda similar to what you just did, huh? As per your "mainland" comment, I resent that, as I have also lived in Hawaii, and find it highly disrespectful for you to equate Hawaii with a 3rd world country such as Indonesia. get a life...if you want to burn crosses, at least have the testicular fortitude not to hide behind Bill Clintons white robes to do it. And last I looked, Oxford U. in England was about as "privileged" as it gets...esp­ecially for those of us DODGING THE US DRAFT DURING THE VIET NAM CONFLICT. And Punahu school in Hawaii is not particulary a privileged school, by mainland tandards at least. Have you ever been to Hawaii? Or Indonesia? Or Oxford U? Or even Arkansas? I assume not, which means you are yet another delusional HRC/NASCAR/WWE fan squabbling for Hillary's big fantasy, in defiance of the good of the American people. I think the reason you don't understand the depth of Obama's speeches is...you just ain't deep enough yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/16/2008

Have to say, looks like the democrats race on………
Has anyone mentioned the upcoming Puerto Rico primary – which, interesting enough, has recently changed from a caucus to a vote I hope the voters remembers Bill Clinton’s last minute commute of 16 members of FALN (a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group convicted of setting off 120 bombs in the US.
Why would we award delegates to a country who cannot vote in the general election?
Anyone know?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 04/15/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

And Hillary Clinton's commitment to get them BACK in jail after she had a sudden chage of mind. Don't forget that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/15/2008

This is the Bosnia sniper stupidity in reverse. Turns out a Clinton actually said almost the exact same thing that Obama said, but now Hillary conveniently fails to remember that Bill ever said it. Is she in the throes of full-blown dementia, or what? Is she even going to remember her own name by the time the convention rolls around in August?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/15/2008

Unbelievable!
The Democratic Party has been weakened tremendous­ly.. In mine & many others opinion it is because of the fury & hateful Rhetoric of the Obama supporters that defend Obama at any cost. No one can discuss his motives or policies without getting flamed on. It's a instant jump on "Hillary the bitch" discussion. This was not a primary of electing one or the other no matter what!! There should have been respect showed to each of them. I find it ironic that many Obama supporters are chastising Clinton for saying "she shouldn't be saying that about a fellow Democrat." Obama supporters have been doing that to her in a hateful, nasty way for the whole campaign. Just think about what's been said about her, especially here . Obama supporters are no "innocent bystanders" in the destuction of our party. Obama supporters have split the Party in half. That's not the worst, you have tried to destroy the other half in your frenzy, unvetting support of Obama. Now we have two wounded canidates that have little chance of beating McCain. We have failed to present our party to America as United, with Integrity & Hope. Instead we have beat ourselves up where 16% of Obama supporters won't vote for Hillary, and over 40% of Hillary supporters won't vote for Obama in the General election. It'll be tough for either one of them to win with those numbers. And in a year when us Democrats should have had a cakewalk wining

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/15/2008

Ironically, the statistic you cite at the end undermines your argument. If 84% of Obama supporters are sensible enough to vote for either Democratic candidate, but only 60% of Clinton supporters feel the same, that implies that Obama supporters are not engaged in an effort to split the party (quite the opposite).

Also, if you check the facts, Bill and Hillary were the first ones to go negative in the entire Democratic field, and their campaign has been consistently more negative than anyone else's. Obama has for the most part treated Hillary with respect (name 1 specific instance to the contrary).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 04/15/2008
- Mchris1947 I'm a Fan of Mchris1947 4 fans permalink

So you think a bunch of blow-hard bloggers on the internet are the reason why the party is split? I think the really amusing part is that many of us (yes myself included), actually think that posting our strong opinions of blogs all over the net actually has an impact on how people are voting???? I WISH I had that much power.

The Party is split, becuase we have two candidates whose message has resonated with voters. I for one encourage an open discussion on all the candidates. But it so often devolves into insults and name-calling because we aren't on actually on these websites looking to be convinced or enlightened, but rather we expect to do all the convincing and enlightening.

Fortunately, no matter which Dem gets the nomination, our opponent is so weak on the issues that if we expend half as much zeal and fervor battling McCain as we have Obama and Clinton, the Republicans won't know what the hell hit them, come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 04/15/2008

As an Independent, who is female and African American I speak as an outsider. I have sat back and observed both candidates with an open mind ,once all other candidates withdrew. With similar policies I had to rely on other factors to determine who would be best for this country.I'­ll give two in light of space. This is the first opportunity for a viable candidate that represents race and sex, so I have really scrutinized each candidate I wanted to be proud of either representation to exhibit the best, because they will be opening the door to others. I also looked at character and how it came across to me. Unfortunately, for Sen. Clinton her likability qualities have dimished with me in these areas. She is constantly coming across as All About Me, I deserve to be President, and if I can't win no one else will.

Each have made mistakes, "to err is human", but the manner in which one handles the mistakes speaks to ones character. That character represents every American here and abroad. Although her deeds have been good so have Sen. Obama's. I am also of the thinking that no one has experience as a president except those who has ran and won two terms. I believe who you are is what you present, not based on ideals or character of another. Sen. Obama has erred, but he has still showed poise, and character which I will be proud of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 04/16/2008

ThomasM,

Here we go again, you personally should know this is not an official democratic blog site.
Just in case you don't know, the republicans party candidate supporters, the green party candidates have supporters and Ralph Nader, Bob Barr also have supporters.

Their missions are to divide and conquer. For you to sit on your ass to add to that jackass group does not have us try to have some what a meeting of the minds to not take this shit that serious.

Only thing is important, pointing the fingers at two people is truly party of the SILLY SEASON.

It is time you to step away from you PC and this blog site and get some fresh air in order for you to get control of your mind that hold your thoughts before you let the rest of know what you are thinking. The truth you makes no da*n sense. You have taken all these media polls as facts. Again, silly season. These people are making a living, they can tell you anything, how do you know the media info is valid.????­??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/16/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

Doesn't that make clear that this is a MEDIA cover for Hillary and a smack down for Obama. I just read Hill's comments saying almost exactly the same thing as Obama but I haven't heard that comparison on the boob tube yet. I wonder why? All I'm hearing still is the Obama "bitter" snippet and elitist accusations. When will the MEDIA realize that we are aware of what they are doing. If they don't know that, can someone here at Huffington Post let them see our posts?

This makes me so sick and tired of the "powers-that-be" playing us like a toy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/15/2008

here is my comment over obamas remarks...­.i am from ohio.....m­y job is currently being shipped to mexico..i work for rockwell as an IT guy......a­long with all of the other jobs here.....p­eople who have live here in ohio their whole lives, either have to move to milwakee wisconsin, twinsburg ohio, or mequon indiana...­.all of these accept twinsburg are least 6 hours of driving time from columbus..­.... twinsburg is two hours away or find another job....the economy doesn't need board technicians now so finding another job is gonna be kinda hard for these people....­..if the word bitter doesn't describe the people that have to accept this and don't want too, i don't know what word does.....i­'m actually sitting here witnessing the fact that people are upset that they have to uproot there families..­..he was telling the truth.....­when things like this happen, what are you supposed to do??? if you believe in God, well this jus makes your relationship with God strong ( hence the clinging to religion) .....now the whole guns part, i don't know anyone thats mad here that cling to guns, i mean everyone here has a pistol but they don't like cling too it and try and hurt people....­...but what obama was saying about the whole bitter and clinging to religion part, was true.....i­t is happening right this second in columbus, ohio....an­d other industrial states

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/15/2008
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I live Seattle and here it's the high-tech industry. Many my competent colleagues were laid-off in high-tech while companies like Microsoft took those positions overseas. Friends who've managed teams at MSFT had entire teams laid-off and had to manage new teams overseas working overnight so their hours aligned. Microsoft's excuse was other countries are better at training high-tech workers; I know personally from working with this group myself, that these weren't positions requiring skills so rare that jobs had to be taken overseas. Frankly it was baloney. MSFT like other companies are driven by profits and tax breaks. There are talented, hardworking people overseas and I'm not bashing them; there just seems to be a growing bias beyond manufacturing, that foreign workers are a better value for their talent than Americans. I am bitter about this myself and Obama was SPOT-ON. I believe what he was saying was that in the midst of our frustration we shouldn't see immigrants as threats and our anger is incorrectly targeted. We should be looking at how past administrations, including the Clintons, haven't fought to protect our jobs. That's why Obama's policies on not giving tax breaks to companies who take jobs overseas is important. Anger should be directed at past politicians not foreigners; everyone wants to do well and feed their families. But we have to make sure we take care of American talent first. Last time I looked we weren’t doing so well here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/15/2008
- keriheb I'm a Fan of keriheb 6 fans permalink

Msjentay your post is very well stated, insightful. It is sad to see the media playing ping pong with politics when real people's lives are hanging in the balance. These politicians don't care about the people they claim they want to represent. These politicians are about their political agenda's, making money for their constituents - generally corporate donors.

While these pundits readily call anyone who disagrees with them traitors and want to politically hand them if they have ever said a kind word to someone of the Islamic faith, these same corporations and the politicians who suckle up to them have betrayed Americans by sending their jobs overseas in some cases the jobs are sent to the so called enemy of the U.S. as in the case of China. It is not that I disagree with trade with China but the entire political debate is absurd at this point.

There are certainly hate mongers here in HP but those with eyes to see had better stay focused and not allow themselves to become confused by the screaming dribble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/15/2008

He was spot on about your being bitter and frankly, I don't blame you. So, in your bitterness, are you clinging to your religion and your guns? That was the insult. Not the bitterness, but how the little town people acted it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 04/15/2008

In the rare event that no presidential candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes, then the President is chosen instead by the House of Representatives, from the top three presidential vote-getters in the Electoral College; each state delegation in Congress casts one vote.

Democrats are on target to screw up, in order, to keep Clinton quiet, let's let Hillary run in OH, NY, NJ, FL, MI, and in PA, if she wins in PA. Let Obama run everywhere else. And let's throw this thing into the House.
Where she can make the ultimate SuperDelegate argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/15/2008

“If he gets it into the House, a Democrat is going to win the presidency, because they have the votes pure and simple,” said Mario M. Cuomo, the former Democratic governor of New York, who is noncommittal on the presidential race at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 04/15/2008

Saying people are insecure and saying they are bitter are two different things. Saying that insecurity gets preyed on by people who wish to divide us, is different from implying people naturally turn to these attitudes from bitterness. Maybe the answer is that there are people who have turned to some divisive views of the world precisely because there are those who engaged in the tactics that Clinton identified way back when. Stuff to think about, but the statements are very different in their analysis. Clinton is attacking a style of politics, Obama's statement seems like an attempt at explaining that people who might seem foreign to his listeners are very human after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/15/2008
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You are absolutely right. Hillary was attacking WORDS, not substance. And she was the one who said WORDS are just WORDS and nothing more. Again, a hypocrit because she just picked out those words and used them against Obama. His words in context was substantial and meaningful. She continues to LIE and cause DIVISIVENESS AND CHAOS AMONG THE SUPPORTERS AND VOTERS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 04/15/2008

That's a very interesting point. One thing people fear or resent perhaps when in hard economic times, is being looked down upon, and that can and is being played upon in the a manner very the strategy Bill Clinton was speaking against. Very interesting. I hadn't thought of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/16/2008

jj
You have limited your reading on the "bitter subject from the full context of Obama's message).

Usually, when people state you need to the full context of his comment was and answer to question.
This article again, provides sound bites. He has taken a cheap lazy man way to make a living off someone else. The author of this article should have linked Mr. David Coleman full context message.

I suggest you read Mr. David Coleman from Huffpost. has stated he was there. I do not think the author can say the same.

He is sitting on his ass making a living off Obama trying to support Americans to a better future. Straight talk he is a blog article critic. He is only telling us about a movie he has never seen. He read other blogs put them together and receive a pay check. I appreciate the author who know the facts and are able to the facts without any hostile bias.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 04/16/2008

No Wonder we are Bitter ......And this explains who is out of touch with Americans , its Clintons and the Republicans that keep making money
from these trade policies that forget the American People so what kind of Leadership is this, favoring Big Biz , letting them Import Tariff Free from a Country that manipulates its currency so we Americans cannot compete , but the Big Biz gets to make money off the Currency exchange of the Imports Who is B.S.ing Who here ?????? Bitter , Hell Yes we American Blue Collar working class people , PEOPLE yes You SUITS we are People too , not just Consumers that are used in statistics and analyzed for our Spending power , my God Bitter doesn't explain the Mindset well enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
US deep in debt and still digging
You're paying for the nation's debt addiction through both direct and indirect taxes. And unfortunately, Uncle Sam is going to need more money.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/USDeepInDebtAndStillDigging.aspx
Foreclosures continue to soar, worst is not over
Filings up 57 percent in March over ’07; ARM resets to crest in May and June

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 04/15/2008

Bill Clinton can get away with saying these things because he's white.

And anyway, it's true! People are angry and bitter and easily distracted and divided over moral issues. Rather than be on the defensive, Obama should take this opportunity to address these issues head on. This is not about Hillary Clinton (though she would like it to be). This is about the way small town America has been destroyed over the last 25 years. Thank you Reagan, Clinton & Bush. What are you going to do differently Mr. Obama? Moreover, democrats, all of you, when are you going to stop denigrating the people of middle america and instead stand with them and stand up for them? To Obama's credit he was talking to supporters in SF who were on their way to PA to campaign for him. He was asking them to go beyond the spin and talking points and try to understand where people in PA are coming from. More Obama supporters need to be on the ground these next few weeks listening to people's stories and trying to understand why we are so easily divided. As for Clinton-- she's history. Let's not focus on her. The more we engage in these mud fights the more we disengage voters. Don't fall for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 04/15/2008

And half of these insecure white people are men, who George McGovern says will never, ever vote for a woman:
http://digits.hrblock.com/ssDigits/digits.php?rType=1&sPath=1839&sNode=1839&uId=289

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 04/15/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

It just shows the selfish nature of her campaign. She's not caring about the people as you can see. She's more worried about herself and how to blast Obama every chance she can get. Her personality is not getting any better each day this race goes on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/15/2008

According to the 2000 exits polls:

60% of voters disapproved of Clinton as a person

59% -including some who approved of him - disliked him

68% said he would go down in the history books for his scandals rather than for his leadership

44% thought the Clinton scandals were important or somewhat important. (In contrast, only 28% thought Bush's drunk driving arrest was important or somewhat important)

18% said a reason for their vote was to oppose Clinton

15% of those who had voted for Clinton in 1996 voted for bush in 2000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 04/15/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 93 fans permalink

Interesting that Bill spoke about Bobby Rush the truly progressive and popular Illinois congressmen that B.O. though he would displace in his first run, but got whupped.I mean if someone's as good as Bobby why run against them.? I think that manuveur says a lot about Obama's politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

Please expound on what you mean by "truly progressiv­e."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 04/14/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 93 fans permalink

For example, on July 15, 2004, Rush became the second sitting Congressman, after Charles Rangel, to be arrested in as many days for protesting human rights violations at the Sudanese Embassy in Washington, D.C.

he also VOTED no against the Iraq war ( not just said he was against it).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 04/15/2008
- Alvin4NY I'm a Fan of Alvin4NY 24 fans permalink
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Is it just me, or do Obama and his "fans" seem bitter these days?? Probably too much coffee....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

It's just you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 04/14/2008
- Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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I second that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/14/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 3 fans permalink

It appears that Bil plays on emotion of folks. This was his idea to say to the public, Obama is an elitist. He is talking down to you. Well this appears to backfire on Bill he didn't quite get his story straight. or he misspoke to quickly. The folks who said to bil, dwindled down to one who said that HE wasn't bitter, but proud. and it was he who said he was ready for a change that will give him Hl. Does Bil really think that he is going to get back in the WH? No and now you know who dislikes the word Bitter. Does Bil think that his belittling Obama will help him return to the WH? No and now you know how the remarks re demeaning, condescending, elitist, and talking down to YOU came from Hil's mouth. With These 2-3 C's bashing out the same negative rhetoric about Obama takes the heat off the ML, Sniper fire, Nafta etc. We are not all dumb and fell off the so called turnip trudk as these 3C's did. They need to slow down this bus for the end of the ride, because age, senility and distress looks like its taking toll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 04/14/2008

Angry, anxious, and, of course, self-righteous: "They've been to the fountain (strawberry "koolaide"?) and S-E-E-N the Obamaland.­..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 04/14/2008
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No, we'll just have orange juice thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 04/15/2008
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But before his orange juice...be­tter have a beer with a photo op two weeks before he mocks Clinton for doing the same..bitt­er

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 04/15/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Americans ARE bitter,the only reason we don't HEAR them say so in public is they don't want to be harrassed like Obama is being done. http://www.topix.net/forum/state/tx/THRLE2J5HBP785L1L ,then surf around the topix forums to OTHER states and read how UNHAPPY people are http://www.topix.nett .It's easier to rant and complain when one is hidden behind screen names .The immigration forums at topix are filled with so much hate ,the katrina forums were worse ,even scarey when one reads the TRUTH in how so many Americans feel.I have read comments such as ,"lets get a gun and just shoot the brown babies in the back of their heads"and save taxpayers money" at topix's forums .Obama had the courage to say it .Theres no sugar coating the hostility Americans feel towards the goverment ,it's out here and as long as people are afraid of being cast as UN-American they will say it under screen names ,it's safer .REALITY is looking Americans straight in the face and it scare a lot of Americans ,mainly the lower and middle class.HATE and unhappiness that is openly written about in MANY forums ,all over the http://www.nj.com/forums/immigration/ion/ then theres http://www.topix.com/news/immigration/2008/04/villaraigosa-to-ice-back-off-job-immigration-crackdowns http://www.topix.net/forum/us-senate//TABHFPV44I87F8UAQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 04/15/2008

you are absolutely right. we are bitter and resentful and hateful and willing to fight with our politics for our limited resources. we became disinfranchised and the rural voter is just now noticing because of Obamas' statement. we need All of our American people to become thinking beings and not just puppets in the hands of our polical parties.

it has taken me 5 months to become employed and that is the longest I have activly looked for a job in my life and I was not offended by Barack at all. the nation needs to be exposed to the whole of his statement and I think that if people heard the entire response to the question asked of him we would not be having the discussion now.

this is an example of the double standards Black people live with every day. we are all Americans and what happens to one of us happens to all. we need to wake up and stop living in our seperate bubbles and start talking about what is truely important.

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.

people, take the words of Barack and truely digest them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/15/2008
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