Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"


First Posted: 04-13-08 02:41 PM   |   Updated: 04-21-08 05:12 AM

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president in 1991 -- have now surfaced.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:

"You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"

For comparison's sake, here is Obama's statement, reported by Mayhill Fowler for Huffington Post's OffTheBus:

Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter). [...]


But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

What do you think -- are they similar?

Update: Jason Linkins notes a statement from Harvard political scientist Theda Skocpol to Talking Points Memo, which reads in part:

I have been in meetings with the Clintons and their advisors where very clinical things were said in a very-detached tone about unwillingness of working class voters to trust government -- and Bill Clinton -- and about their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing.

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
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- ChandraSF I'm a Fan of ChandraSF 2 fans permalink

As a professed Obama supporter, I have tried to listen to Obama's explanation of these utterances, and frankly I am left quite disappointed. Better for him to have said, "Look, those were ill-thought out remarks. I retract them and apologize to anyone who was offended". What I heard instead was a highly nuanced defense of "bitter" and a claim that he is "more in touch". He has missed a valuable opportunity to put the issue behind him and re-engage the very people he comes across as putting down. I feel if he cannot nip a minor dust-up like this in the bud, then the ride with him is going to become bumpy, uncomfortable and sweaty. The crispness is missing, and the luster is fading fast

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

I think you're overlooking a basic fact: many voters in Pennsylvania ARE BITTER. And they have reason to be, after years of neglect from Washington! Obama would be wrong to retract his statements, becuase that would be a disservice to those folks who agreed with him, like some of the PA Mayors who have echoed Barack's statements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 04/14/2008
- pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

please, like his mission in life is to keep you entertained

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 04/14/2008
- rjean I'm a Fan of rjean 4 fans permalink

bubba aka bullyboy clinton just needs to go away...he is so over with...i dont give a rats ass what he says about anything...like his wife you cant trust him to say anything that even remotely resembles the truth.....get these two grifters out of the public eye....theyve about ruined the dem party for which i am grateful but it is time for them to go........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 04/15/2008

Please...

Hillary is grasping at any and every straw, because of the depth of her desperation. Those who buy into her attempt to define a logical statement into words that fit the definition of "elitist", and will therefore vote for her, deserve her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 04/14/2008

I listened to the comments from Obama too and I completely agreed with them - perhaps because I am an embittered voter.

I think I first became bitter when I lost my job, but it might have been when I found out my insurance company was changing the copay on my MS-medication from $15 to $600.

Regardless, I do not think Obama should have made a retraction as he did nothing but tell the truth; are we all so fragile that we cannot handle the truth?

And if we are not bitter, why are we engaging in asynchronous arguments with people we have never met?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/14/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 3 fans permalink

Look up the word bitter in webster/etc Do you think the folks, including myself, are Happy over the condition of these small towns? How would you feel if they came to your job and closed it down the building, as they sent your job overseas? How do you think those folks felt who worked at Hershy, and now the job has gone to Mexico? Do you think they are sitting there smiling awaiting their rich uncle to come in? No I would feel bitter/upset/ disgruntled/ hurting because I no longer could depend on that routine check. Those folks spoke to Obama and they told him these feelings. Now that the report is out noone wants to be caught whitewashing because they couldn't affort to lime the thing. Remember these days? Obama is getting bashed for truths. No JMcC will never be able come back at Obama for the truth and folks do your own thinking. Hil nor Bill will be able to bash Obama for long on this either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 04/14/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

"when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them."

Only difference with the dems is that they find the most insecure black man and scare the daylights out of him. Same ploy, different party, different color. Politics is slimy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 04/14/2008
- laborgrunt I'm a Fan of laborgrunt 5 fans permalink

Democrats dont scare the living daylights out of black men, Republicans do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/14/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 3 fans permalink

Dont get it twisted. Obama is not afraid. No one has scared any daylight or anything else out of him. What folks have not digested yet, is that Obama's mixture makes him the better of the crop. He isn't white enough to be white and he is not black enough to be black. He is truely American. he has embraced the values as many of our forefathers..many afro americans may not have experienced this, Plus, He has embraced the top layer of the bottom layer that our fore fathers did not allow the afro american to exploit. Now over the years, Many of our Mixed afro Americans have embraced the values of the subset of our forefathers set of values. Many think as Obama, too. They are screaming to turn the page. They will. I want to go forward with Obama too. and I will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 04/14/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Bill speaks from experience growing up poor in a small town. In good times and bad, rural folks find truth in Jesus and fun in hunting. Those folks gave us Johnny Cash and Hank Williams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 04/14/2008
- pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

gee, a couple of drunk, drug using hicks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 04/14/2008
- WIpatriot I'm a Fan of WIpatriot 36 fans permalink
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...and damn proud of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/15/2008
- markkraft I'm a Fan of markkraft 15 fans permalink

Well, you know what Bill Clinton said about going with the candidate who offers hope...

Thanks Bill. You've been on our side all throughout this race... whether you knew it or not.... and I'm certain you would've endorsed Obama by now if you weren't married to Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 04/14/2008
- LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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Classic diversionary tactics. Who is it who is running for President again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/14/2008

why on earth did huffington post allow the heavly edited tape of obama speaking to be posted? if he tanks, give huffington post my "thanks." i am very upset they let this happen. bill and hill will deliver mccain to the door of the white house. it makes me want to ralph.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/14/2008
- pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

make sure you do it on a racist Hllary supporter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 04/14/2008

PLEASE! PLEASE! Continue to default to the shrill cant of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. The more you resort to it, the more quickly the public will become inured to it and hardened to ANY moral significance it might conjure. PLEASE! Use it again, and finally when the eyes of your interlocutors roll upward as they sigh, perhaps, you realize that the acknowledgment you seek is forever LOST!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 04/14/2008

Clinton lied.

People died.

Hillary: the audacity of dope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 04/14/2008
- heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 27 fans permalink

Precisely! Very good........Hillary = the audacity of dope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 04/15/2008
- LOL123 I'm a Fan of LOL123 2 fans permalink

Good job Nico! In the end we're referred to by their (McCain, Clinton,Bush) MiddleEastern friends as "Joe six-pack" (President George W.Bush who gave him the affectionate and controversial nickname "Bandar Bush". [2] His friendship with Dick Cheney and his wife, Lynne Cheney, extends to the years before Cheney took office as the United States Vice President.) and of course Chalabi also refers to us as "Joe six pack". One thing is for sure in Texas we aren't drinkin no BUSH beer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 04/14/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 340 fans permalink
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Why am I not surprised? The Clintons have shown their true colors during this campaign. She is willing to lie, distort, do whatever, to secure the nomination. I am sure, she know exactly what Obama was trying to say. I have lost all respect for her. After eight years of a liar, corrupt, calculating politician, who needs another eight?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/14/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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They were so busy spinning the obvious to be less obvious that they were caught unaware by the fatal rotation of the country off of its axis of supposed greatness. In the aftermath they were left to consider their role in the hastening of dislocation for a nation once touted to be great and now broken; and they found no reward for their previously blind ambition and the injurious spinning it prompted.

The self-interested do not put much stock in others by definition, thus they spin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/14/2008

I know this is difficult stuff. I know that I’m wasting my time. Still, here we go again....

What Obama includes in his analysis that Bill Clinton doesn’t is to disparage the economically insecure who take out their frustrations/explain their frustrations through culturally approved hatred of others who they are encouraged to perceive as “the enemy.” It’s classic “blame the victim” talk.

The taboo that Obama has broken is the acknowledgement that half the people in this country have an IQ at or below 100. Dumb people are easier to manipulate. Point to an enemy, blame the enemy, and off goes the mob to rip the designated enemy to shreds ... and in the process, they don’t have the time or attention span necessary to focus on anything else.

Designated public enemy #1 right now on HuffPost is Hillary Clinton. Jane Smiley, at least, is up front about her shut down of rationality on the subject. Light your torches, gather your pitch forks, the witch, the witch is on the fly. Obama is exactly right. People are dumb as posts. They’ll chase after the witch every time. Why bother with rationality? No one’s listening, not even the folks you’d expect to know better. The witch is after your gun, your god, your job. Chase the witch!!

What? You say George Bush has finally openly embraced his support of torture. Who cares? The witch! The witch! You say the economy is collapsing? Chase the witch! Health care? Get the witch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/14/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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Expose the witch, oh no need, she has already done that for us in how she has run her campaign not to mention all of the satellite stuff surrounding her that frankly I am not paying much attention to. The way she has run her campaign, her behavior, the things she has said, have convinced me, she is beyond bitter. I will not vote for McCain for what should be obvious reasons, but Hillary is no friend of mine nor is Barack. But what is accessible to me in my non-elite situation is the view that I get from how they are running their campaigns.

Barack Obama: Congratulations Senator Clinton for winning Ohio, for winning California.
Silence from Hillary when Barack wins. In fact any state he won contains people who do not count.

Hillary Clinton on all things Barack: Oh if it were me I wouldn’t do this and I wouldn’t do that and he doesn’t get it.
Silence from Senator Obama on a mountain of issues he could bring into public discussion concerning the Clinton’s and their improprieties as public officials.

Obama is my choice until reason says otherwise. This non-issue concerning him speaking truth is just that and anybody who makes it something more is suspect in my mind. Hillary needs an exorcism and therefore I will not vote for her until she is relieved of her demons, the ones that cause her to act as she does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 04/14/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

We expect politicians to solve all our problems. I don’t expect politicians to solve anybody’s problems. We have to solve our problems ourselves. We’ve got to take the world by the horns and solve our own problems. The world owes us nothing. Each and every one of us, the world owes us not one single thing, politicians or whoever. Human nature hasn’t changed in 3,000 years. Maybe the obstacles and actualities and daily customs change, but human nature really hasn’t changed. It cannot change. It’s not meant to change.

Bob Dylan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

I sent a e-mail to the CLINTON CAMPAIGN stateing that I and other voters are unhappy with the 'smear' campaigning.The response I got was a 'bot' reply.Now if I had of sent MORE money ,which they asked for in the e-mail sent to me, maybe ,just maybe they would have actually read my e-mail.I will probaly vote for Obama ,because of this.What DO Americans really want ?A continueing smear campaign or answers to issues that REALLY MATTER?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 04/15/2008

as you pointed out, "dumb people are easy to manipulate". this is what hillary's campaign strategists repeat into her ear over and over and over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 04/14/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

And over and over again, they don't seem to realize that people are not as dumb as they think we are. We will NOT allow another Bush electorate that's for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/15/2008

Well said Villy Val.

You're correct. Huffington Post has had Hillary in their sight's since day one. The coverage is similar to that of Fox in it's one-sided vitriol towards Senator Clinton.

If you want anything close to fair coverage these days you have to go public radio and public TV.

HP should do an audit of it's coverage and post the results. It would be nice to see the true numbers of positive and negative posts on Barack and Hillary.

The main question is why give us uneven coverage. Just pushing for their candidate? I'd love to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 04/14/2008

You are dead right to compare Huffington to Fox with regard to to Sen. Clinton, it makes Huffington post somewhat like a masturbation fest for Obama lovers.

But I don't buy, and I have never seen anyone making the point, the notion of equal coverage. Something like, you measure good and bad articles, and if that is equal for all candidates you have good and and fair journalism. But that doesn't do justice to the fact that maybe, candidates are different. Maybe, just theoreticaly, one candidate is better than the other, and that makes him/here deserving more positive press.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Fox is not against Hillary,Fox is out to destroy a man,because of his color or who his friends are or was ,is the reason,Fox does it for it's RATEINGS .Hannity has complained for weeks on end about Obama,just to keep HIS rateings up.It's all about money.Hannity reportably signed a two digit contractt with Fox,so he has to earn that money.And lou dobbs ,now he is a surprise,one minute he's for Obama ,the next he's against him.These media people EARN money by doing what they do,even if they have to stretch the information.And Americans gobble the garbage up.Why have we lost touch with relaity ?A HAPPY country does not do that.I say lets start dancing in the streets because Obama spoke the TRUTH at a risk of loseing his nomination.The dynastys we have had in OUR white house have ripped US off from day one.It's time to eliminate the dynasty 'control' of the Bush's and Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/15/2008

Obama was explaining the sentiments of working class blue collar workers to a crowd of San Francisco political donors who could very easily be called elite. The fact that he is able to understand the needs of both these groups without coming off ass a pandering carpertbagger the way Clinton does is a testament to his political strength in my opinion. CraigMM keeps claiming that he was talking about the primary and not running against Republicans and therefore that makes the comments "racially insensitive" , but what else has Hillary's campaign been since Ohio and Texas but an exercise in Republican tactics? I agree that his word choice was poor but the overall message, that in times of economic crisis skeptical voters are easily convinced by hot button issues like guns, religion, and immigration and less apt to accept a message of hope and change which they have seen very little of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/14/2008
- Janel I'm a Fan of Janel 5 fans permalink

I agree. But what is even more frustrating for me is all the political pundits (Karl Rove, Buchanen, Hannity, etc., etc. and even some on MSNBC and CNN) who just won't let this die. All of these experts insist that no one is bitter in America and that the majority of Americans are insulted by Barrack's comments.

Well, this one American believes Obama hit the nail on the head. The truth hurts, and we don't need pundits to tell us what to believe about how others feel. These so-called experts who just like to hear themselves talk are for the most part wrong. . .and are getting boring in their assertions!

Find another topic. . .Please!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/14/2008

The Clintons are just trying their "best" to change the subject away from the made-up tales about Hillary's trip to Bosnia!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/14/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

your right we do need to change the subject back to Obama, Here you go

12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), Roll call 366, which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater. [W] posted 04/03/2008 at 22:39:09
yeah, here is that peace loving saint,

6/22/06: Obama voted against withdrawing the troops by opposing the Kerry Amendment (S. Amdt 4442 to S 2766) to the National Defense Authorization Act. The amendment, which was rejected, would have brought our troops home, ended the fighting and forced the Iraqi people to take charge of their security. Roll Call 181 [W] posted 04/03/2008 at 22:36:15

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/14/2008

Wow. What a great picture of a genuine, loving, warm, and caring couple. Looking at the photo, you wouldn't have a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 04/14/2008

When will we learn the true background and Clinton campaign connections of this mysterious "Mayhill Fowler" person?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/14/2008
- b2008 I'm a Fan of b2008 4 fans permalink

I've learned that she was a Obama supporter and a Clinton supporter. She has known Clinton for years and there are those who believe she was a plant in the Obama camp by Clinton. If you remember, Clinton said they had a surprise or something to that order soon. I believe that was it.

Mayhill Fowler has written several articles on Obama, all of which were controversial and of the type that the opposing campaign would have written. No one seems to think she did any justice at all to Obama in any of her writings. Most are saying that Obama did not need any enemies with her around, that's for sure. So take that as you will and investigate for yourself and you'll see what I saw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 04/15/2008
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