Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"

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First Posted: 04-13-08 02:41 PM   |   Updated: 04-21-08 05:12 AM

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president in 1991 -- have now surfaced.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:

"You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"

For comparison's sake, here is Obama's statement, reported by Mayhill Fowler for Huffington Post's OffTheBus:

Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter). [...]


But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

What do you think -- are they similar?

Update: Jason Linkins notes a statement from Harvard political scientist Theda Skocpol to Talking Points Memo, which reads in part:

I have been in meetings with the Clintons and their advisors where very clinical things were said in a very-detached tone about unwillingness of working class voters to trust government -- and Bill Clinton -- and about their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing.

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As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president...
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Bitter, yes. Scared, yes. Angry, yes.

Hear the rest----- the people are p.o.'d at their Government for selling us down the drain. And puh-leeze---- did some of you just come to political awareness yesterday? You've never heard of the neocons "guns-god-gays" strategy for winning elections? Do you think it's a coincidence that at least 11 States had ballot issues to ban gay marriage in 2004? The neocons wanted their "base" to come to the polls to help the Shrub be re-elected, and putting those kind of referrendums on the ballot was a sure fire GOTV strategy!! Now, you tell me, what emotions THAT strategy appeals to? Does it appeal to our better natures, or to our fears and insecurities? As for immigrants, watch Lou Dobbs any day of the week and you will find out what is going on with people being p.o.'d about illegal immigration. So, live in denial, but those are the facts.

It is not the least suprising that HRC jumped on Obama's musings with both feet a week out from Pennsylvania. But, for her to pretent she's just one of the "good ol' boys" is just too amusing to let pass. The Clinton's are one of the prime reasons that the "good ol' boys" don't have manufacturing jobs any more, fifteen years down the NAFTA super-highway! Now that we know they're claiming over $105 million since 2001, I'd have to say that NAFTA definitely didn't hurt THEM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 04/14/2008
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yeah, she can knock back hard liquer for the cameras too, and we Americans have shown with the Shrub that we like a drinker making our decisions for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/14/2008

Obama's campaign of change has been compared to Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton's campaign has been compared to Bush 2's, especially the Rovian tactics. We all know the outcome of the Bush Rovian tactics from the last 2 elections.

The question becomes - do you want to see another Bush-like politician in the White House for 4 years? Hillary has voted for the Iraq war with Bush, for the Patriot Act (twice) that took away American constitutional rights, for the Military Commission Act which took away more of our rights, voted for the use of cluster bombs in areas of civilians in the mideast. Hillary Clinton was pro-NAFTA (dispite her protests otherwise) and her husband has been working deals with Columbia and other south American pro free trade countires. Her chief strategist until just recently, Mark Penn, is head of one of the biggest PR firms that is VERY pro corporation, big business & pro Republican. Her chief spokesman and new chief strategist are both pro-NAFTA & for more free trade agreements.

Hillary Clinton represents big business, big corporations, big money. It's unfortunate that many of the voters that Clinton is courting in Pennsylvania either don't access the internet or not to read politics. People that rely on the mainstream "news" media gets a slanted, corporate approved view of everything, including the candidates. Don't forget, the media was Bush's biggest cheerleader for starting the Iraq war.

That's why I will never vote for another Clinton ever again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/14/2008

April 14, 2008 -SHOCK POLL: CLINTON TAKES 20-POINT LEAD IN PA,...Amer­ican Research Group, Inc.!!!!!!­!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 04/14/2008

Nice try, kaafar. You might fool a novice, but anyone who has ever followed polls and politics know that ARG is as "inaccuarte a poll that's out there. It's good to use to distort the facts, however.

If you want a more accurate assestment of what's happening in PA, don't you think it would be better to get a cross section of several far more "reliable" polls? I'm sure you wouldn't be interested in that, but just in case:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/14/2008
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Just wanted to remind folks of this story that was repeated on all networks last week and on-line news. It was about the CBS/NY Times poll that showed that 81% of Americans think the country is going "seriously down the wrong track" and that they "blame the government­." THAT IS WHAT BARACK IS SAYING!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/04/dissatisfied.poll.ap/

The media is playing this up for the Clintons and forgetting about her lies, her husband's & Mark Penn's support of Columbia free trade, the money for their library, etc.

I just can't believe all the so-called news organizations run the story about this 81% and then are surprised Barack says people are bitter! We are! This is the craziest distortion the MSM has done in quite a while.

Please remind people of this poll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/14/2008
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the distortion is Hillary's. the media is just rerunning what she said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/14/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

That is not what Obama said. Obama said that white, blue collar workers were bitter and they were clinging to their guns and religion istead of supporting a black guy named Barack. That is not the same thing as saying that Americans are frustrated with the way things are going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

Your parsing of words smacks of the desperation of one grasping for straws.

I'll bet you were mightily disappointed when Barack's poll numbers rebounded after his speech in Philly!

The Pennsylvanian people are smarter than you give them credit for, and will not be affected by your posts here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/14/2008
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you missed the clinton campaign memo that said words were not important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 04/14/2008

No, that's what BILL CLINTON said. Get it straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 04/14/2008
- jaglon I'm a Fan of jaglon 4 fans permalink

Just another thing to keep us distracted from the real issues that affect ALL of us. We all know what Obama meant and we know that it is true. The Clinton's have just seized on this to distract everyone from latest round of mistatements they have both made.

Let's go back to discussing the real issues, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 04/14/2008
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This most recent Clinton tactic of disinformation and manufactured controversy is EXACTLY what is wrong with HRC's campaign. What could be more demonstrative of her contempt for the voters in general and the Democratic Party in particular than her cynical willingness to damage Obama's run against McCain in the fall any way she can?

Please Pennsylvania. End this misery so that we can get to discussing the important issues and HRC can face reality and GET OUT OF THIS RACE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/14/2008
- Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

So the new game plan is to convince swing voters to vote for the Democrat in November because the Clintons are way more elitist than Barack Obama? Makes a lot of sense to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008

Bill Clinton this and Bill Clinton that.. Are we voting for Bill or Hillary? I am a married woman and my husband wanted this war. We fought like crazy in this house over this issue. So, please, just because she is married to Bill, don't put his words in her mouth. As a married woman I am offended by that. Let's taint Hillary by association to Bill. Yet, when it comes to Wright, this board will try to say there is no association to Obama.. Does this board think that the public like myself can't think for themselves and see what is really going on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008
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But if Hil should by some freak of circumstances get back into the white house, Bill will be there with her. And she has shown that she does not have a relationship with him that would give you confidence that she can talk rationally or powerfully with him and he will care about her job, her sensibilities, her position. Otherwise, he would not have screwed around in front of so many witnesses who could come forward later to cooberate Monica, Jennifer, etc.
There will some day be a strong woman who will run for president based on her own accomplishments and hard work, and she will most likely become president. that woman is not Hillary Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 04/14/2008

Are you really trying to compare a person's relationship with the Pastor of their church -even if close - with the relationship of couple that has been married for 30 years? Really? Bill Clinton will BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE if Hillary is elected. He is and will be her CLOSEST advisor. Plus, there's the little fact of the $800,000 that Bill accepted from the trade organization to exert influence to pass the Columbian trade agreement. That money went into their household income. Last time I looked, that means that Hillary has been financially enriched for support of an agreement that she publicy states that she opposes. YES it matters that Bill is her husband.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 04/14/2008
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Hilary calling Barack an "elitist"??

This from a woman and her husband who have made over $100 Million dollars in the past 7 years!!

"Umm, hello, yes, is Kettle there? Yeah, this is Pot, you're black!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 04/14/2008

Is this a board of elitist? How can you people compare one remark to another?

I am tired of HRC being blamed for the destruction of the Dem party. What? Obama and his supporters can't take what McCain and the Republicans are going to throw at them? Would you like the country to be surprised when McCain brings out all of this and whatever else they have up their sleeves? Or would you like to deal with it now and cry " Hillary is destroying the Dem party" this way the public doesn't pay much attention to the real problems with Obama?

I watched them last night. What is so inspiring about him? He portrayed himself as so religious. Right in line with a man who inspired the name of his book. He can't seem to formulate a sentence without stuttering. I know he will be the next Dem we are to vote for. I am committed to putting him in the white house, and my vote will be for the Dem in the race. But if I have so many doubts and do not feel inspired by him, I worry about the rest of the Dems..

In CT. Ned Lamont won the Dem nomination for Senator. When it came to the election Lieberman ran as an independant against Lamont and won. This is what worries me.. I don't think Obama can pull this out in the end. I hope I am wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 04/14/2008
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If you are tired of HRC being blamed for the destruction of the Democratic party, then you should join us who are encouraging her to GET OUT OF THE RACE!!!! I, for one, am not encouraged when "Dems" start acting like Republicans as Clinton has in this campaign. Once we have a nominee, then we can worry about the real opponent, the Republicans. But this infighting has to stop and it appears that the only way it will is for HRC to get out of the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 04/14/2008

We expect the republicans to play the fear card, to smear and slime - not from another democrat. The Clinton campaign is out of Rove's book.

Lies aren't acceptable. Doesn't it bother you the Clintons lie repeatedly? Do you deny the lies?

Doesn't the Columbia trade deal mess bother you? And that's just one we found out about. Do you believe the MidEast sheiks paid Bill big bucks just to speak?

I'm not for Obama because he inspires, I'm for him because he tells the truth, lobbyists don't fund him, don't run his campaign, and he has demonstrated integrity, judgment and intelligence.

Hillary just demonstrates intelligence. McCain sometimes shows intelligence and some integrity, other times, none.

When you listen to Obama vs Clinton take note of her use of "I" and his use of "we". That sums it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/14/2008
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Obama was not talking about general voter frustration over the economy.

Obama essentially said that white, blue collar voters did not support him because they were bitter and were clinging to their guns and religion instead of voting for a black guy named Barack.

There is absolutely no way to call this statement anything but racially insensitive, ignorant and insulting. His comment was not a call to action to save the middle class. It was how he views white, blue collar workers who don't support him. He thinks they are bitter and racist.

Obama has still not apologized for these horrible things that he said. This isn't spin. They are his words and they are indefensible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/14/2008
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what he said wasn't horrible. perhaps if you fit into that gun category or you are not quite comfortable with your religious affiliations, you would take offense. you wouldn't like being called out for feelings that you know aren't good feelings to have. but, those people will not likely vote for the Dem in the general election anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/14/2008
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White, blue collar workers make up one of the largest voting segments in the Democratic party. It is these exact people that will swing elections in PA, OH, IN, MI and Florida. If you don't carry them you will lose those states. If you lose those states you will lose the GE.

Obama must apologize for his statement. There is no spin on this. They are his own words to a question about white, blue collar workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 04/14/2008
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That is ABSOLUTELY not what he said and if you conclude that "he views white, bule collar workers who don't support him . . . [as] bitter and racist," then you have the problem, not him.

I am so tired of people trying to "spin" the truth of what he spoke into some kind of racist slur. It was not and those who say it was know that they are lying. And what's worse, they expect us to be dumb enough to fall for their lies. Stop it, people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

In your opinion! Your ego must be huge to speak with such authority. Can you back up any of what you write with facts? You sound woefully ignorant, and full of yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 04/14/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

The facts? Obama was asked a question about why white, blue collar workers were not supporting him. He then goes on with his answer. It may be difficult for you to accept the truth, esp[ecially since you see so little of it here at HuffPo, but that was the question to Obama and that was his answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008

Lots of white people "cling" to things in hard economic times! Even well-off white people. Just look how long the Clintons clung on to their tax returns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/14/2008
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LOL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/14/2008

Huffington Post: Internet Newspaper. That's what it reads on the top of the page. Then why no news? EVERY post is "We love Obama" and "Hillary is the devil". Real news is not a bunch of biased crap like this website. You have lost all credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 04/14/2008
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Gee! Why would anyone be surprized at pro-Obama leanings from an internet Newspaper owned and operated by an early and vocal supporter of Senator Obama. Oh! the shook and awe!

You are missing the point on crediabili­ty...the truth is the truth regardless. There are some really smart people here who have access to knowledge they are willing to share. Agree or disagree they are putting it out there...an­d allowing you the chance to voice your opinion on the matter. I thinks that about as credible as it gets!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/14/2008

We get our biased stuff from reading posts like yours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/14/2008

Oh really??? Perhaps you should get right on the phone and call all the TV stations and let them know the same thing!! You can certainly tell who they are backing!!

Check out the "real" newspapers. They, too show a bias.

Better to remain silent than to speak and show your ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/14/2008

I agree. I am a brand new reader to this site and it sure feels like a place with HUGE agenda than fair and balanced journalism.
I didn’t mind when Ms. Huffington campaigned for Dennis Kucinich with a passion. When she now takes a stand by Obama, it feels like more of a “revenge” toward Hillary. WHY?
This country needs a woman to lead for a change, even it’s at first by a man-woman. The feminine energy needs to be brought back into balance within each man and woman so we may have peace within and without.
Imbalanced Masculine energy represented by Bush and imbalanced energy represented by AH, each with its agenda, to maintain the status quo will not last much longer though.
We the people, citizens of the world, are ready for a real change!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

Looks like the portrayal of Baracks statements regarding Pennsylvanians as "elitist" has gone around the world, while the truth that Bill and Hill used the same line of reasoning previously has now just gotten dressed and out the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/14/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

What Bill and Hillary have said in the past is absolutely NOT the same thing as what Obama said. To try to compare them is fruitless. It is the pivot that HuffPo and Obama-surrogates are trying to use to make this problem go away for Obama, but it won't.

If you want to compare statements, then find a statement from HRC where she says that black, blue collar voters are not supporting her becasue they are bitter and they are clinging to guns and religion instead of voting for a white woman named Hillary.

Anything else is just propaganda to try to change the topic from the insulting statements Obama made and has still not apologized for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/14/2008
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right. clintons just say that they voted for jesse jackson, too, so what else would you expect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/14/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

I'd say your denial of the similarity is fruitless. It's so obvious on it's face. Bill said they were scared, Barack said they were bitter. Niether one is insulting. They both are accurate. Must really eat you up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/14/2008
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-coleman/i-was-there-what-obama-re_b_96553.html

You weren't there, so inform yourself from someone who was

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 04/14/2008
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Apparently Hillary has an almost unlimited number of kitchen appliances in the hopper poised to be flung - she had a chance to get out with dignity, that's all but done now, she has forever tainted the Clinton name and will be eventually be ostracized from the party - Hillary go home!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/14/2008
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These aren't the same at all. Bill is talking about how the republicans use scare tactics against the economically weak, and Obama talks about how people vote on values based on bitterness. That is not the same thing at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/14/2008
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I am bitter at Americans who voted for Bush and claim to support USA and the war did not step up to enlist to do their part in the "war on terrorism". I am bitter about politicians who use stuff like this to win elections and enjoy that Americans are divided - they're easier to control that way. I am bitter at politicians who, it has been proven, campaigned for and supported trade agreements like NAFTA and then say whatever they think will get them elected afterwards. And I will vote accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 04/14/2008

Huh? Most certainly is!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008

That's a distinction without a difference. Tomato tomato.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008
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