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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters during a news conference at Dallas Love Field Friday, April 11, 2008 in Dallas, Texas. The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. To his actual record, a different label applies: conservative. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats.

But a different label applies to his actual record: conservative.

The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize. McCain leans to the right on issue after issue, not just on the Iraq war but also on abortion, gay rights, gun control and other issues that matter to his party's social conservatives.

The four-term Arizona senator, a longtime member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the earlier handling of the war but has been a crucial ally in President Bush's effort to increase and maintain U.S. forces in Iraq.

Besides the war, McCain agrees broadly with Bush and other conservatives on:

_Abortion. McCain promises to appoint judges who, in the mold of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. McCain's record is not spotless on abortion: He said once, in 1999, that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned. But that amounted to a blip in an otherwise unbroken record of opposing abortion rights for women.

"I am pro-life and an advocate for the rights of man everywhere in the world," McCain told the Conservative Political Action Conference in February. "Because to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator."

_Gay rights. McCain opposes gay marriage. True, he does not support a federal ban on gay marriage on grounds the issue traditionally has been decided by states. But McCain worked to ban gay marriage in Arizona. He also supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and he opposed legislation to protect gay people from job discrimination or hate crimes.

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"I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman," he told CNN in March. "I will continue to advocate for those fundamental principals of our party and our faith."

_Gun control. McCain voted against a ban on assault-style weapons and for shielding gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. He did vote in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows, but in general he sides with the National Rifle Association in favor of gun rights.

When the Supreme Court held arguments last month on Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, McCain said it was "a landmark case for all Americans who believe, as I do, that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms."

His conservatism could be a problem for McCain _ particularly if this November's contest is as close as recent presidential elections, which were decided by independent-minded voters in the center of the political spectrum.

But he might avoid this problem to the extent people know him as an independent-minded politician. And many do view him that way.

"People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

"In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said.

In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left.

And voters who back Clinton and Obama are open to McCain.

Nearly a third of Clinton supporters said they would back McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, and more than a quarter of Obama supporters said they would back McCain over Clinton, according to Associated Press-Ipsos polling released Thursday.

Democrats are trying to change the perception of McCain. The Democratic National Committee insists that McCain's election would amount to a third term for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"All he offers is four more years of the failed Bush economy, an endless war in Iraq and shameless hypocrisy on ethics reform," DNC Chairman Howard Dean said last month.

Whatever the general image of McCain, the Christian right is deeply suspicious of him despite his many conservative positions. McCain has clashed with its leaders. He called televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" and has often worked against them.

He pushed to limit the influence of money in politics through campaign finance reforms that, critics say, stomp on the constitutional right to free speech.

He backs a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, which many of his party's most conservative members oppose.

And he splits from the right over research which extracts stem cells from human embryos in an effort to develop treatments for Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and a range of other diseases. Conservatives object because human embryos are destroyed; McCain supports the research.

Polls indicate McCain has the same level of GOP support as Bush had at this point in 2000. But some insist he still isn't reaching out to rank-and-file conservatives who are needed to lick envelopes, make phone calls and knock on doors in states where the election is likely to be close.

On the right and across the political spectrum, McCain's image, rather than his positions on issues, seems to form people's opinion of him. Indeed, in choosing presidents, voters often look past issues to character and personality, and most individual issues are unlikely to mean much.

But one broader issue could figure prominently in November _ the tumbling economy and consequent job losses, home foreclosures and soaring energy prices.

Those could prove troublesome for McCain, and not only because he acknowledges he's no economic expert.

"We are surely in a time of deep economic insecurity for a majority of the American people," said Curtis Gans, director of American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate. "That has always led to two things: somewhat higher turnout, and votes against the party in power."

"We are also in a deeply unpopular war," Gans said. "Where there are these differences, and strong differences, they could be in the Democrats' direction."

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
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Everybody ought to know that the League of Conservation Voters gives John McCain a rating of ZERO based on his votes in the 110th Congress. ZERO! Even John Kyl, McCain's fellow senator from Arizona (and said to be a protege of Pat Robertson) managed to get a rating of 13! Now I would not hold it against a politician for having a rating from the League of less than 100, because there sometimes do seem to be honest disagreements about what policies are best for the environment. But to get a rating of zero bespeaks of a cavalier disregard of environmental issues. It's time for environmentalists to start calling McCain the BROWN candidate for President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 04/15/2008
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Mitt Romney announced McCains new economic plan this morning on Morning Joe. He wants to freeze discretionary and entitlement spending for a year, evaluate it and then cut back on areas where he feels we are over spending. Discretionary spending includes education, space exploration, highway construction, defense, and foreign aid. (you can say goodbye to your school lunch program, daycare program and more) Entitlement spending includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Food Stamps. He wants to privatize Medicare thinking this will take the burden off of the government. (you can't fund entitlements and a war you know)

He wants to DECREASE corporate taxes from 35% to 25% ---- A Whopping 10%! ----- to make us MORE competitive globally (that's like closing the barn door after the horse is out)

McBush - McSame - McWORSE wants to literally rob from the poor and give to the rich, taking food out of the mouths of children and giving it to CEOs of large corporations. Amazing.

McCain/McClinton are working from the "tell 'em anything and hope they aren't paying attention" playbook. Obama is the only one who has his eyes open and is speaking truth about where we are and where we need to go.

http://www.clickfindbuyersguide.com/grandlake/vote.html

Download a flyer, a bumper sticker, a sign... and let them know we want TRUTH FOR A CHANGE! Stand up for something or fall for anything! Your choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/15/2008
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No matter who eventually gains the WH they are going to reap the whirlwind. And us. We aren't voting on who can best stop the trainwreck but on who can handle the recovery.
None of the Above/08
But I will support the eventual Dem. candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 04/14/2008

Obama is a Socialist Elitest. McCain is a RINO. Hillary is trying to be all that she can be. I'm a moderate and will vote for the RINO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 04/14/2008
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And you are a DUMBO. Fortunately. you aren't running...except at the mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 04/15/2008

Talk about your classic "Flip-floppers" - John McCain makes John Kerry seem like the "straight talker" of the Century.

John McCain: I was against torture before I was for it.
I was against the Bush tax cuts for the rich before I was for them.
I am a veteran, but I do not vote to increase benefits for other vets.
I am a running for President on the basis of my experience as a war hero, but I don’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia.
I was against hate mongering extremist religious leaders like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell before I was for them.
I sought out the endorsement of Rev. Hagee, even though he thinks the Catholic religion is a “great whore” and is actively working for the destruction of Israel.

Got Hypocrisy? John McCain could loan you some and still have tons left over.

Obama '08 - the world can't wait. Our country has suffered long enough under the corrupt policies of the right wing conservatives. Enough already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 04/14/2008

McCain's no more moderate than former president, George Bush. Cynthia Vassallo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/14/2008
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John McWar is a part of the problem, he will never be a part of the solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/14/2008
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John Harris of Politico states on Hardball he doesn't really think the Clintons have been that harsh... "I don't think this campaign has been that rough by historical standards, what's more, I believe that the Clinton campaign has been fundamentally been engaged often in self censorship...there's a lot of things they believe that they don't say."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 04/14/2008
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"I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman," he told CNN in March. "I will continue to advocate for those fundamental principals of our party and our faith."

Principals? So who is the great speller? Pray a little harder and maybe JuhHAYzus will come through with a brain chip that will clean up grammar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 04/14/2008

McDoom... will not be the next president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 04/14/2008
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"In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left."

Are people stupid? Obama and Hillary are centrists who don't even propose single-payer healthcare and McCain is a right-winger who will try to destroy Roe V. Wade, keep the occupation of Iraq going and cannot even acknowledge that GLBT's are citizens and deserve all the rights that any citizen has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 04/14/2008
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This is news? For years McCain has been trying to convince the Republican base that he is a true conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/14/2008

I live in London, and in our quaint dialect, he's not only a right-winger, but also ' a right wanker'.

Sorry if that offends anybody, but it doesn't change the veracity of my assertion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/14/2008

I've had my second laugh for the day...McCain conservative? Who's kidding who? Labeling him one does not make him one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/14/2008
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 04/14/2008
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...and shoots ducks...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 04/14/2008

Even though I'm not thrilled with Obama... I would never vote for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/14/2008
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Yeah, have to agree with you on that. President McCain will be a disaster of seismic proportions, to ape a recent Huffpo headline. The only good thing about his sure-to-be single term is that -- barring nuclear war -- it will only (hopefully) make the Democratic Party wiser next primary cycle. No More Wimps!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/14/2008
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This email I received should probably have come with the subject line saying "Fat Chance", because Pelosi and Reid protect Bush , but here is a petition asking for Impeachment for Bush approving torture. but hey, I filled it out anyway. Cant hurt..

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Impeach Bush and Cheney for Torture

On Friday, George Bush told ABC News he personally approved of the approval of torture - including waterboarding - by Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and George Tenet.

"Yes, I'm aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved."

In the wake of this shocking and appalling confession, we've come to a historic moment where every American - and every Member of Congress - must take a stand.

Either you're for torture or you're against it. And if you're against it, you must support the only Constitutional remedy for a President and Vice President who commit war crimes: impeachment.

Tell Congress to Impeach Bush and Cheney for Torture

http://www.democrats.com/impeach-for-torture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/14/2008
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