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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters during a news conference at Dallas Love Field Friday, April 11, 2008 in Dallas, Texas. The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. To his actual record, a different label applies: conservative. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats.

But a different label applies to his actual record: conservative.

The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize. McCain leans to the right on issue after issue, not just on the Iraq war but also on abortion, gay rights, gun control and other issues that matter to his party's social conservatives.

The four-term Arizona senator, a longtime member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the earlier handling of the war but has been a crucial ally in President Bush's effort to increase and maintain U.S. forces in Iraq.

Besides the war, McCain agrees broadly with Bush and other conservatives on:

_Abortion. McCain promises to appoint judges who, in the mold of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. McCain's record is not spotless on abortion: He said once, in 1999, that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned. But that amounted to a blip in an otherwise unbroken record of opposing abortion rights for women.

"I am pro-life and an advocate for the rights of man everywhere in the world," McCain told the Conservative Political Action Conference in February. "Because to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator."

_Gay rights. McCain opposes gay marriage. True, he does not support a federal ban on gay marriage on grounds the issue traditionally has been decided by states. But McCain worked to ban gay marriage in Arizona. He also supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and he opposed legislation to protect gay people from job discrimination or hate crimes.

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"I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman," he told CNN in March. "I will continue to advocate for those fundamental principals of our party and our faith."

_Gun control. McCain voted against a ban on assault-style weapons and for shielding gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. He did vote in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows, but in general he sides with the National Rifle Association in favor of gun rights.

When the Supreme Court held arguments last month on Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, McCain said it was "a landmark case for all Americans who believe, as I do, that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms."

His conservatism could be a problem for McCain _ particularly if this November's contest is as close as recent presidential elections, which were decided by independent-minded voters in the center of the political spectrum.

But he might avoid this problem to the extent people know him as an independent-minded politician. And many do view him that way.

"People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

"In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said.

In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left.

And voters who back Clinton and Obama are open to McCain.

Nearly a third of Clinton supporters said they would back McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, and more than a quarter of Obama supporters said they would back McCain over Clinton, according to Associated Press-Ipsos polling released Thursday.

Democrats are trying to change the perception of McCain. The Democratic National Committee insists that McCain's election would amount to a third term for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"All he offers is four more years of the failed Bush economy, an endless war in Iraq and shameless hypocrisy on ethics reform," DNC Chairman Howard Dean said last month.

Whatever the general image of McCain, the Christian right is deeply suspicious of him despite his many conservative positions. McCain has clashed with its leaders. He called televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" and has often worked against them.

He pushed to limit the influence of money in politics through campaign finance reforms that, critics say, stomp on the constitutional right to free speech.

He backs a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, which many of his party's most conservative members oppose.

And he splits from the right over research which extracts stem cells from human embryos in an effort to develop treatments for Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and a range of other diseases. Conservatives object because human embryos are destroyed; McCain supports the research.

Polls indicate McCain has the same level of GOP support as Bush had at this point in 2000. But some insist he still isn't reaching out to rank-and-file conservatives who are needed to lick envelopes, make phone calls and knock on doors in states where the election is likely to be close.

On the right and across the political spectrum, McCain's image, rather than his positions on issues, seems to form people's opinion of him. Indeed, in choosing presidents, voters often look past issues to character and personality, and most individual issues are unlikely to mean much.

But one broader issue could figure prominently in November _ the tumbling economy and consequent job losses, home foreclosures and soaring energy prices.

Those could prove troublesome for McCain, and not only because he acknowledges he's no economic expert.

"We are surely in a time of deep economic insecurity for a majority of the American people," said Curtis Gans, director of American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate. "That has always led to two things: somewhat higher turnout, and votes against the party in power."

"We are also in a deeply unpopular war," Gans said. "Where there are these differences, and strong differences, they could be in the Democrats' direction."

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
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- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 24 fans permalink
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Will McCain take us to the Rapture in his first year?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 04/14/2008

He'll need Viagra, a heart monitor, and at least one nurse on stand-by at his age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/14/2008
- ymax I'm a Fan of ymax 3 fans permalink

Impeachment
Impeachment, in the U.S. and Great Britain, proceeding by a legislature for the removal from office of a public official charged with misconduct in office. Impeachment comprises both the act of formulating the accusation and the resulting trial of the charges; it is frequently but erroneously taken to mean only the removal from office of an accused public official. An impeachment trial may result in either an acquittal or in a verdict of guilty. In the latter case the impeached official is removed from office; if the charges warrant such action, the official is also remanded to the proper authorities for trial before a court.
So I think the Congress have to impeach the idiot befor he get in to office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 04/14/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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One thing I have learned about criminal activities of a politician, especially a President.
Apparently there is this unwritten gentleman's agreement that if you can slide through the presidency without getting nailed, your are free as a bird when you get out of office. Its like nothing illegal ever happened . I never understood that, but its happened in the past, and I am sure it will happen with Bush Co. To bad Pelosi and Reid are such strong supporters of Bush's criminal activities. Otherwise , we might have actually rid the country of the Bush/Cheney Cancer that is eating away our very freedoms and way of life at an alarming rate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/14/2008
- ymax I'm a Fan of ymax 3 fans permalink

The only good news is: 280 days left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 04/14/2008
- edpell I'm a Fan of edpell 3 fans permalink

At least McCain will not add insult to injury. He will not insult us for having religious beliefs. He will not insult us if we own guns. He will not insult us if we are against immigration. On the other hand he will not do anything about immigration. But neither will the other two stooges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 04/14/2008

ed pell
Good news for you with McCain as president, you and your gun pal can join the military and join in Iraq, being there for 100 years. You will not have any problems with immigration over because you will be patriotic and be able to use your gun to kill, kill, and kill some more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 04/14/2008
- llozano I'm a Fan of llozano 5 fans permalink

Most progressive and left leaning people know this about McCain already. The challenge is to overcome the media hype and "common knowledge" syndrome we hear on mainstream media about McCain. He is no maverick and he is definitely not a a straight-talker. Right now he is being protected from too much scrutiny by the media and also by the Democratic candidates. If Hagee's endorsement of McCain made as much news coverage as Rev. Wright's endorsement of Obama did maybe some opinions of him would change. I am of the opinion that McCain will self-destruct is just left to his own devices. He cannot, in my opinion, win in a debate with either Hilary or Obama. He'll scream, scratch, hit or run when put under pressure. He's shown this erratic behavior already and if left alone on stage will fall apart or hit the anchorman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 04/14/2008

The challenge is not to overcome the media hype. The true problem is the people can not help themselves turning on to listen to the propaganda in the first place. Just STOP listening to it. It is taht simple. If more people did that you will never know they are not spinning or twisting.

McCain in a debate will be just like Bush on stage. the camera showed him back anyone could see the square pack under his coat. They will hook McCain up with the same type or smaller transmitter and ear device, karl rove or his other side kicks will help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 04/14/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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McCain is a fascist / corporatist, he has no ideals or morals, cash is his god.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

And those are his good points....­.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/14/2008
- browndog2 I'm a Fan of browndog2 6 fans permalink

John McCain Coming soon to a swing voter near you! The harder the liberal left push, the stronger the blowback towards the center. Don't get mad, it's just politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 04/14/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

Center?...­Smokin' the good stuff tonight are we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 04/14/2008
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Riiiiight, blowback..­.....is that another euphemism for "we'll lie our butts of to make Johnny Cheeks look reasonable"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 04/14/2008
- Not Blind I'm a Fan of Not Blind 22 fans permalink
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McCain is no maverick. He's gone way far out to please the Republican base: the pro-war hawks, Christian fundamentalists, endorsing and wanting to keep permanent Bush's tax cuts, endorsing torture and engaging Iran, among other things. McCain accepted public financing when his candidacy was fledgling, but now has spend beyond the legal limits, in violation of the law. He has no sense of what's ailing the economy: our $9.35-tril­lion debt, the cost of the Iraq war, soaring fuel and energy prices, inflation, credit crisis, depreciating property values, forclosures, the devaluation of the dollar on the world market, and rising unemployment. Bush told everyone to just go shopping, as a cure for the ailing situation of our economy. John McCain can't even think of something as stupid as that to say. McCain refuses to endorse the new GI bill, which would guarantee veterans the education they deserve after their sacrifice. He wants to keep troop levels high in Iraq, which means our military will be broken, for lack of equipment and fresh troops. Our level of preparedness for another crisis is nill, as our troops are exhausted, and stress levels are high due to multiple re-deployments with little rest in between.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 04/14/2008
- patch61 I'm a Fan of patch61 2 fans permalink

we feel we need a president of the united states that will be apart of our understanding about the blue collar middle class how we are poor right now when we need medical care and someone who understands us we need sen hillary clinton for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/14/2008
- jalapeno I'm a Fan of jalapeno 25 fans permalink
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He and Lieberman are both cockroaches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- cmrinc I'm a Fan of cmrinc 3 fans permalink

Good thing McCain never sacrificed anything for his country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 04/14/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

We knew this already. Anyone paying attention knows that "the thing in the White House" was just McCain Lite. This poor man is not well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 04/14/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 492 fans permalink
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"Nearly a third of Clinton supporters said they would back McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, and more than a quarter of Obama supporters said they would back McCain over Clinton, according to Associated Press-Ipsos polling released Thursday."

This is insane. People have got to give up this rooting-for-my-team attitude, stop casting pointless protest votes, and start caring about this country,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 04/14/2008
- Roafer I'm a Fan of Roafer 6 fans permalink

Don't believe the hype, this report is from the corporate media whores! This is their wet dream not reality or anything close to what may transpire in November. Keep the faith and don't allow the big fat media whores to distract you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 04/14/2008
- Soulsurfer I'm a Fan of Soulsurfer 32 fans permalink

Funny how we're now fighting over 3 people, any one of which gets elected, is fine with the MSM. They've chosen for us, now just sit back and report on the fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 04/14/2008

OK nellie you win, we will all vote for McCain. We can all be non bitter, homeless and happy with GOD.

Osma Ben Laden wants to bankrupt this country like they did Russia. If we become as you suggest start caring about this country, means we would have to be united (all races & religions) for the first time as a nation. We the people do not know how to let go of the old way of thinking to embrace a new idea of that magnitude. We only carry the title of United States. We have never been a united people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 04/14/2008

Compared to Obama, Hillary is Conservative. Liberals don't realize how far left they are. When they think middle of the roaders like Hillary and McCain are Conservatives, it shows you how out of touch they are. McCain will garner far more Independants and Democrats than Obama would get Independants and Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 04/14/2008
- Roafer I'm a Fan of Roafer 6 fans permalink

I respectfully disagree and think it could just as easily be the opposite, Obama getting more Republican voters and more of everybody else. People are really sick of the current situation and it will come down to more of the same or change. Change has always prevailed over the status quo in desperate times, it shouldn't be any different this go around. The only way for McWarmonger to win? The same old GOP way, steal it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 04/14/2008
- lechatnoir I'm a Fan of lechatnoir 7 fans permalink

it has to be a pretty damn close race if they hope to rely on the Diebold factor though...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 04/14/2008

You were very respectful until that last sentence. It must have cost you a lot resolve to hold out that long. McCain is change. He has a differrent view while keeping the Principles that have made America great. Obama is "just words" and as his actions demonstrate, his brand of liberalism will go down in flames as all the other leftists before him. There has never been a far left liberal who won the Democrat Nomination, go on to win the general election. Republicans don't have to steal elections, we do it the old fashion way, we earn it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 04/14/2008
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So is HRC, "felt the presence of the Holy Spirit"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/14/2008
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