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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters during a news conference at Dallas Love Field Friday, April 11, 2008 in Dallas, Texas. The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. To his actual record, a different label applies: conservative. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats.

But a different label applies to his actual record: conservative.

The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize. McCain leans to the right on issue after issue, not just on the Iraq war but also on abortion, gay rights, gun control and other issues that matter to his party's social conservatives.

The four-term Arizona senator, a longtime member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the earlier handling of the war but has been a crucial ally in President Bush's effort to increase and maintain U.S. forces in Iraq.

Besides the war, McCain agrees broadly with Bush and other conservatives on:

_Abortion. McCain promises to appoint judges who, in the mold of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. McCain's record is not spotless on abortion: He said once, in 1999, that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned. But that amounted to a blip in an otherwise unbroken record of opposing abortion rights for women.

"I am pro-life and an advocate for the rights of man everywhere in the world," McCain told the Conservative Political Action Conference in February. "Because to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator."

_Gay rights. McCain opposes gay marriage. True, he does not support a federal ban on gay marriage on grounds the issue traditionally has been decided by states. But McCain worked to ban gay marriage in Arizona. He also supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and he opposed legislation to protect gay people from job discrimination or hate crimes.

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"I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman," he told CNN in March. "I will continue to advocate for those fundamental principals of our party and our faith."

_Gun control. McCain voted against a ban on assault-style weapons and for shielding gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. He did vote in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows, but in general he sides with the National Rifle Association in favor of gun rights.

When the Supreme Court held arguments last month on Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, McCain said it was "a landmark case for all Americans who believe, as I do, that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms."

His conservatism could be a problem for McCain _ particularly if this November's contest is as close as recent presidential elections, which were decided by independent-minded voters in the center of the political spectrum.

But he might avoid this problem to the extent people know him as an independent-minded politician. And many do view him that way.

"People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

"In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said.

In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left.

And voters who back Clinton and Obama are open to McCain.

Nearly a third of Clinton supporters said they would back McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, and more than a quarter of Obama supporters said they would back McCain over Clinton, according to Associated Press-Ipsos polling released Thursday.

Democrats are trying to change the perception of McCain. The Democratic National Committee insists that McCain's election would amount to a third term for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"All he offers is four more years of the failed Bush economy, an endless war in Iraq and shameless hypocrisy on ethics reform," DNC Chairman Howard Dean said last month.

Whatever the general image of McCain, the Christian right is deeply suspicious of him despite his many conservative positions. McCain has clashed with its leaders. He called televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" and has often worked against them.

He pushed to limit the influence of money in politics through campaign finance reforms that, critics say, stomp on the constitutional right to free speech.

He backs a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, which many of his party's most conservative members oppose.

And he splits from the right over research which extracts stem cells from human embryos in an effort to develop treatments for Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and a range of other diseases. Conservatives object because human embryos are destroyed; McCain supports the research.

Polls indicate McCain has the same level of GOP support as Bush had at this point in 2000. But some insist he still isn't reaching out to rank-and-file conservatives who are needed to lick envelopes, make phone calls and knock on doors in states where the election is likely to be close.

On the right and across the political spectrum, McCain's image, rather than his positions on issues, seems to form people's opinion of him. Indeed, in choosing presidents, voters often look past issues to character and personality, and most individual issues are unlikely to mean much.

But one broader issue could figure prominently in November _ the tumbling economy and consequent job losses, home foreclosures and soaring energy prices.

Those could prove troublesome for McCain, and not only because he acknowledges he's no economic expert.

"We are surely in a time of deep economic insecurity for a majority of the American people," said Curtis Gans, director of American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate. "That has always led to two things: somewhat higher turnout, and votes against the party in power."

"We are also in a deeply unpopular war," Gans said. "Where there are these differences, and strong differences, they could be in the Democrats' direction."

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
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- 2liveNdie I'm a Fan of 2liveNdie 3 fans permalink

Seriously! I can't wait for a national debate against this old fart!!! He won't have a teleprompter to read from, and he might just show his grumpy side when he's unable to answer tough questions or give his policies on the economy!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/14/2008

AGreed! Did you catch this beaut?

" is Senator McCain willfully ignorant about Iraqi sectarian divisions, or does he try really hard and the smart just rolls out of his skull and down his neck -- gathering in a puddle inside his cranky cortex."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/14/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Barrak, Barak, Barrack - do we need a President whose name most Americans can't even spell correctly? B A R A C K

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/14/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 15 fans permalink

Plenty of Americans can;t spell BUSH and plenty more do not know who he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/14/2008
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Obama is his last name, not Barack. Since when do you call Bush, George? Maybe you call him George when you kiss his picture goodnight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/14/2008

no. That's why I'm voting for Jon MacCane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/14/2008
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Who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/14/2008
- 2liveNdie I'm a Fan of 2liveNdie 3 fans permalink

We obviously need someone who will take education seriously, so dumb asses like yourself can read and spell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/14/2008
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The original B A R A K was a war hero (Bible thumpers take note).

Hard to spell, just like Busch, Regan, and Eisenhauer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 04/14/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 132 fans permalink
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McWar is Bush and Reagan Mix. He is a moron a liar and a warmonger like Bush. He is senile , a moron, anti middle class and poor, and a warmonger like Reagan.

Did anyone catch Bush whining about Pelosi not pushing the Columbia unfair trade deal? Just wait, I am sure Pelosi will fold on this. She is probably holding out for her cash incentives. But I started wondering, whatever happened to the Patriot act renewal? Did they ever bring that to a vote? Did they do it during the middle of the night? Or do they just let Bush do what he wants so that law is a moot point anyway?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/14/2008

Please, Please get the spelling right. It's COLOMBIA NOT COLUMBIA>

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 04/14/2008
- NelsonR I'm a Fan of NelsonR 3 fans permalink

Now, myself i am getting old but I cannot accept a war hawk, warmongering senile old man inheriting the mantle of power in our government. McCain and his use of FEAR is not pleasant. The world is what we assist in making it and a warmongering stance for America is not pragmatic nor acceptable in our daily lives. Why is McCain running, his wife who he cheated with while married desires to be first lady emulating Jacquline Kennedy, her idol, while thinking her status is being the first lady for America. Screw the McCains who adore power as Hillary at all cost. Like Newt Gingrich and many other Republicans hypocrisy rules the day. Are they truly religious? Hell no, they are the abominations who really adore their true god, "MONEY".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/14/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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"I think I'd just commit suicide." --John McCain in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election

Keep your word to the American People, Senator!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/14/2008
- artistgirl I'm a Fan of artistgirl 5 fans permalink
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Making fun about suicide is not funny to someone who has lost someone to suicide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/14/2008
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There was nothing fun about it. You're WAY too sensitive for this blog...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- WaspMan I'm a Fan of WaspMan 2 fans permalink
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He's not making fun. He's asking McCsame to honor his pledge.

Suicide sucks, but it doesn't give you license to dictate the funny.

Sorry about your loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/14/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

I'm sorry for your loss. That being said, that was a very funny joke. Perfect tact. Not overly morbid or mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/14/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

McCain has walked away from more than one plane crash. He's got nine lives and has only used a few. In November, John will once again walk away from the Democrats disastrous Pres Campaign. Again, a hero and this time President McCain!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 04/14/2008

whats astounding is that anyone thinks barrack obama is something other than a left-wing ivy league elitist...­. at least mccain refers to himself as a conservative whereas obama is attempting to masquerade as some sort of unifying centrist with a penchant for working both sides of an issue, which of course his record of voting with his party 97% of the time last term shows no evidence of

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/14/2008
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Troll alert...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/14/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Well, you only have to read this exact same bulls*hit about ten times on each page to know what Fatboy is spouting off about today....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/14/2008
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Yeah it's annoying having to see those BS talking points spouted here daily. These dittoheads don't even understand the meaning of critical thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/14/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 398 fans permalink
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Karl Rove, is that you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/14/2008
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penn:


As one who is unashamedly and unapologetically HARD LEFT, one of my biggest complaints about Senator Obama is that he isn't left enough. I'd much rather have Russ Feingold or even Bernie Sanders in the White House than either of the current Dem candidates.


However, both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton share one trait that, for me, will make it easy to vote for whichever gets the nomination: Neither is John McCain. For 2008 that's all I ask of a Presidential candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/14/2008

AHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!! The TRUTH !!! SILENCE the infidel !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/14/2008
- MIKEBC I'm a Fan of MIKEBC 27 fans permalink
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MC CAIN IS PROMISING TO CREATE AN EVEN BIGGER DISASTER THROUGH HIS STANCE ON IRAN AND HIS STRANGE LOGIC OF DOING MORE WRONG WITH "HIS" SURGE TO FIX THE WRONG ALLREADY DONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/14/2008

And his stance is w i d e, before he s u r g e s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/14/2008
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Think: Bomb Iran Continuation of nutty right-wingers on the Supreme Court Continuation of W. policies in full force, nasty, rotten temper
Keeting 5 Can't ever get differnces between Suni/Shia No clue regarding econimcs Came back from Nam and divorced his wife to marry the multi-zillionaire he was cheating with..
This person is not qualified to be Pres.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/14/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

McCain: "America's children will learn to love war."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/14/2008
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And America's grandchildren will pick up the tab.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- CarlsV I'm a Fan of CarlsV 12 fans permalink

Only if the Chinese don't call the debt due first!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/14/2008

We can only hope that war is the small amount of members of the armed forces with independant thinking skills and they'll turn their NG units on the rubes who keep voting against their best interests and taking us down with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/14/2008
- TRichards I'm a Fan of TRichards 18 fans permalink
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It's astounding that anybody who considers himself even half literate needs to have it pointed out that McCain is a right-winger. But, then again, it's astounding that over half the voters in 2000 re-elected Bush.

The Proudly Ignorant are quick to take umbrage at being called ignorant but extremely slow to get informed -- if, in fact, they EVER become informed. Hell, there are still those who believe the Swift Boat veterans and those who believe that the Clintons put out a contract on Vince Foster. The same empty-headed vessels also believe that Iraq spearheaded 9./11 and that Al Gore is pulling a fast one in his slide show.

No thinking man truly believes in the basic wisdom of the American people, but a whole lot know that paying lip service to it is as crowd-pleasing as pretending that we are in Iraq to support the Iraqi people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/14/2008
- cf864 I'm a Fan of cf864 2 fans permalink

If you are going to attack people's intelligence then sure up your own argument. Bush was re-elected in 2004 you dumb-ocrat­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/14/2008

Ummm that would be "shore" up your argument and Bush wasnt re-elected in 00 or 04 as he didnt rightfully win in 00 how can one be re-elected if not actually elected the first time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/14/2008
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cf864:

Dumb-ocrat? Did you REALLY say "dumb-ocrat"? That's the best rejoinder you can come up with and you have the cheek to call someone else dumb? Wow, there just isn't a whole lot going on between your ears, is there?


BTW, it's "shore up" not "sure up". Now who's dumb?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 04/14/2008
- TRichards I'm a Fan of TRichards 18 fans permalink
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Corrections:

You're right. I carelessly put down 2000 instead of 2004. My bad.

I can admit a mistake -- and make it just once. Can your man, McCain admit:

a) that he is repeatedly confusing Sunni with Shite and having a lot of trouble keeping straight just which BIn Laden is and isn't?

b) that e has repeatedly provided rosy reports of what's going on in Iraq (lies)?

And, can you face up to the fact that your support of Bush has been a tragic mistake?

Also, since you seem a lover of accuracy (ha!), I didn't attack people's "intelligence" but the (practiced?) ignorance of the right-wing ditto-heads. I think most people have the intelligence to inform themselves. But, not all have the integrity to put in the effort. They'd rather believe what they want to believe than to bother to read up on the facts.

The weapons of the Right are: 1) Simple assertion, 2) outright lies and spin, and 3) personal attacks. Are those same weapons used by the Left? Yes, but far less frequently and without any propaganda outlets such as Fox News, the Drudge Report, and Rush Limbaugh. (The Olbermann Report (sp?) and Huffpost, I'll grant you, could benefit from being more balanced, but both are FAR more factual than anything on Fox.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 04/14/2008
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Really?? so what does that make Senator Clinton?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/14/2008
- haboob I'm a Fan of haboob 3 fans permalink

i can not fathom who goes to see mcsenile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 04/14/2008
- MPCarr I'm a Fan of MPCarr 9 fans permalink

McCain is definately conservative on many key issues--abortion, taxes, the war, etc. But he also collaborated with Kennedy, Feingold, and other liberals on bills, so many on the right are somewhat skeptical about him, and he will have to prove he is a true conservative on immigration, global warming, and other key issues.

But Barack is your typical far-left black politician. He will need the white male vote to win the election and it doesn't look like he will be getting them, and his latest gaffe makes it worse, like one step forward and two steps back.

People here will try to argue that McCain is more right wing that it appears, but he has a 19 year record to guide you, where Barack has nothing, but his puffy words.

We will see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 04/14/2008
- MarciaJ720 I'm a Fan of MarciaJ720 12 fans permalink
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Interesting that McCain now wants to back out of his Public Financing he fought for with Feingold. Nice little loan the Government gave him, interest free, while he was running low on cash.

Yes, just the kind of leader I'm looking for - 100% Hypocrite.

Why the media fawns over the man is beyond me. I guess he's nice to them because the man is not as intelligent as Bush, Jr. and that is saying a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/14/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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They fawn all over him because of his POW record... nobody wants to be seen as being nasty to a war hero,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/14/2008

"typical, far-left black politician" wow, who's stereotyping now? Oh, I forgot: Republicans don't care about that. That's actually one of their approved tactics.

Anyone who has taken the time to check his positions knows that he is conservative through and through. He just seems to have hypnotized the press into avoiding all controversial topics with him and promoting him as Mr. Everyman: come on over and we'll bbq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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It always cracks me up when someone says Obama is "far left."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/14/2008
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Yeah, like there's such a thing in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/14/2008
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Me too. There is no "far left" in American politics. Our most liberal Senator would be considered a conservative in Europe...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/14/2008
- CarlsV I'm a Fan of CarlsV 12 fans permalink

Wonder how that video mclame made for the vc denouncing America will play out in the general?

McCain/Minh 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/14/2008
- arvada I'm a Fan of arvada 60 fans permalink
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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/14/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 25 fans permalink

Neocon does not = conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 04/14/2008
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Sorry Charlie, Norquist is ALL yours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/14/2008
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I'm with you. They've been walking the duck walk together, regardless of their personal philosophies. Screw all of the GOP...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 04/14/2008
- elr50 I'm a Fan of elr50 20 fans permalink

No, it means self absorbed greedy shithead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/14/2008

How come the AP hasn't done an expose' on Clinton's and Osama's liberal voting records? Interesting. NOT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/14/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 398 fans permalink
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I kind of wish Clinton HAD a liberal voting record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/14/2008
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