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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters during a news conference at Dallas Love Field Friday, April 11, 2008 in Dallas, Texas. The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. To his actual record, a different label applies: conservative. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats.

But a different label applies to his actual record: conservative.

The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize. McCain leans to the right on issue after issue, not just on the Iraq war but also on abortion, gay rights, gun control and other issues that matter to his party's social conservatives.

The four-term Arizona senator, a longtime member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the earlier handling of the war but has been a crucial ally in President Bush's effort to increase and maintain U.S. forces in Iraq.

Besides the war, McCain agrees broadly with Bush and other conservatives on:

_Abortion. McCain promises to appoint judges who, in the mold of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. McCain's record is not spotless on abortion: He said once, in 1999, that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned. But that amounted to a blip in an otherwise unbroken record of opposing abortion rights for women.

"I am pro-life and an advocate for the rights of man everywhere in the world," McCain told the Conservative Political Action Conference in February. "Because to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator."

_Gay rights. McCain opposes gay marriage. True, he does not support a federal ban on gay marriage on grounds the issue traditionally has been decided by states. But McCain worked to ban gay marriage in Arizona. He also supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and he opposed legislation to protect gay people from job discrimination or hate crimes.

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"I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman," he told CNN in March. "I will continue to advocate for those fundamental principals of our party and our faith."

_Gun control. McCain voted against a ban on assault-style weapons and for shielding gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. He did vote in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows, but in general he sides with the National Rifle Association in favor of gun rights.

When the Supreme Court held arguments last month on Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, McCain said it was "a landmark case for all Americans who believe, as I do, that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms."

His conservatism could be a problem for McCain _ particularly if this November's contest is as close as recent presidential elections, which were decided by independent-minded voters in the center of the political spectrum.

But he might avoid this problem to the extent people know him as an independent-minded politician. And many do view him that way.

"People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

"In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said.

In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left.

And voters who back Clinton and Obama are open to McCain.

Nearly a third of Clinton supporters said they would back McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, and more than a quarter of Obama supporters said they would back McCain over Clinton, according to Associated Press-Ipsos polling released Thursday.

Democrats are trying to change the perception of McCain. The Democratic National Committee insists that McCain's election would amount to a third term for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"All he offers is four more years of the failed Bush economy, an endless war in Iraq and shameless hypocrisy on ethics reform," DNC Chairman Howard Dean said last month.

Whatever the general image of McCain, the Christian right is deeply suspicious of him despite his many conservative positions. McCain has clashed with its leaders. He called televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" and has often worked against them.

He pushed to limit the influence of money in politics through campaign finance reforms that, critics say, stomp on the constitutional right to free speech.

He backs a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, which many of his party's most conservative members oppose.

And he splits from the right over research which extracts stem cells from human embryos in an effort to develop treatments for Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and a range of other diseases. Conservatives object because human embryos are destroyed; McCain supports the research.

Polls indicate McCain has the same level of GOP support as Bush had at this point in 2000. But some insist he still isn't reaching out to rank-and-file conservatives who are needed to lick envelopes, make phone calls and knock on doors in states where the election is likely to be close.

On the right and across the political spectrum, McCain's image, rather than his positions on issues, seems to form people's opinion of him. Indeed, in choosing presidents, voters often look past issues to character and personality, and most individual issues are unlikely to mean much.

But one broader issue could figure prominently in November _ the tumbling economy and consequent job losses, home foreclosures and soaring energy prices.

Those could prove troublesome for McCain, and not only because he acknowledges he's no economic expert.

"We are surely in a time of deep economic insecurity for a majority of the American people," said Curtis Gans, director of American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate. "That has always led to two things: somewhat higher turnout, and votes against the party in power."

"We are also in a deeply unpopular war," Gans said. "Where there are these differences, and strong differences, they could be in the Democrats' direction."

WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
WASHINGTON — The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conserva...
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Late breaking news. McCain is not a liberal.

Actually, he's more like an old fashion democrate, like JFK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/14/2008
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 14 fans permalink
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JFK did not believe in aggressive wars or the Rapture. McCain's more like GW Bush than Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 04/14/2008
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 147 fans permalink
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If you mean McCain is an outdated 1960's-style 'Cold-Warrior' like Kennedy you may have a point. If you mean his concept of the economy hasn't progressed in the last 40 years - right again. But that's the only similarity I can see. Kennedy was friends with Nixon. Nixon called his own so-called 'values' right wing the "lunatic fringe" of the Republican party. The RNC leadership is currently 98% 'lunatic fringe' these days and McCain votes with them 98% of the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/14/2008
- spicegal I'm a Fan of spicegal 19 fans permalink

Please, please, please wake up America and understand that John McCain is AS RIGHT WING AS THEY COME. HE IS NOT, I REPEAT, HE IS NOT A MODERATE OR A MAVERICK, OR IN ANY WAY INDEPENDENT. I CAN PROMISE THAT IF HE IS ELECTED, HE WILL FALL RIGHT IN LINE AND DO HIS PARTY'S BIDDING, TO THE GRAVE DETRIMENT OF THIS COUNTRY. DO NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN. BUSH SOLD HIMSELF AS A MODERATE AND A UNITER, WHEN IN FACT HE IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF BOTH. MCCAIN IS NO DIFFERENT, SO DON'T BE STUPID.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/14/2008
- SILVANUS I'm a Fan of SILVANUS 49 fans permalink
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He is a ReThugLican. What do you expect?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 04/14/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 206 fans permalink
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Exactly! McCain is a right winger. But the Republicans' "Wizard of Oz" machine will attempt to characterize him as some sort of moderate Republican maverick worthy of the independent and moderate vote.Garba­ge. Don't buy it.

This guy wants to privatize Social Security, make the tax cuts for the rich permanent, extend the war in Iraq indefinitely, start a new war with Iran, and has a lengthy Senate record of voting with his conservative friends against the New Deal initiatives and programs of FDR's era.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/14/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

Those are the same tax cuts that you now enjoy, numbnuts ... assuming that you make enough to actually pay taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/14/2008
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Oh really, Beachbum? I think you've been sitting in the Sun too long. The tax cuts that I referenced benefited only the top 2% for the most part. It was heavily weighted in their favor. So unless you have earned more than $250,000, you missed out, too. Meanwhile, the remaining 98% of America is suffering under the increasing weight of hidden taxation -- HIGHER INFLATION -- thanks in large part to the policies of your numbnut Republican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 04/14/2008
- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

Obama should drop out so Clinton will make mcwar show his famous temper and she will crush him in the general.

Lets unite with Clinton because she gives hope for the future with her plans and get our country back in the right direction.

God bless America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/14/2008
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If she was leading I would agree but unfortunately she is not. So she should be the one dropping out before she turns into a complete republican. She has already started talking like one. We still love her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/14/2008
- TheNuff I'm a Fan of TheNuff 6 fans permalink

Why should the person currently WINNING drop out? Nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 04/14/2008
- CBS I'm a Fan of CBS 18 fans permalink
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Coz she was done wrong by her man and she is entitled to the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/14/2008
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Maybe Old Hill is looking for the #2 spot on the Reep ticket. Would not surprise many.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/14/2008

Well, Obama is a PROUD and VOCAL left winger so I guess you need to define McCain as a right winger.

Funny how you folks were smearing him as being too liberal and middle of the road for the right to accept, but after he was accepted you change your minds and now he's too far right? There's a word for that kind of analysis where you change it depending on the day and which way the wind is blowing.

Where do I think he is? Does it matter? He's a little too middle of the road and liberal for me. Count me as one of the Republicans who thought he was too left-wing.

So what's really going on here at Huffington?

It's simple. Obama, a radical left winger is the Huffington Post candidate. You folks see McCain as a threat because independents and middle of the road voters know McCain is closer to them than left wing Obama. Obama's painful statements recently revealing his acceptance of black racism and disdain for the moderates and conservatives clearly cause him a problem with those middle of the road voters he MUST HAVE to win.

You are seeking to use the influence of your blog site "put out the word" to independents that McCain is radical right wing and they must vote for Obama and you must somehow get them to believe that left wing Obama is closer to them than McCain.

So that's the game we all know the GAME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/14/2008
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Funny little monkey. It was you conservatives saying he was too left for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 04/14/2008
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Monkeys don't understand honesty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/14/2008
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McCain More Conservative Than His Image
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To NeoCons, anyone to the left of Mussolini is a centrist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 04/14/2008
- nippersdad I'm a Fan of nippersdad 29 fans permalink

So true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 04/14/2008
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McCain has since embraced the evil Falwell and Robertson and of course he embraces torture. But the gay rights issues sinks him and all republicans for me forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 04/14/2008

Satan thinks we need another born loser war criminal. He likes the ones we have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- Jtt I'm a Fan of Jtt 39 fans permalink
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The Great Orator Part 1:

Mr. McCain said several times during his visit to Jordan – that he was concerned that Iran was training members of Al Qaeda in Iraq.( http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/mccain-misspeaks-on-iran-al-qaeda/ )

McCain stressed that the U.S. should not leave Iraq quickly because it would invite increased influence of "hummus"…. …. Hummus is a dip or spread made from cooked, mashed chickpeas, blended with tahini, lemon juice, salt and garlic. ( http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/index.php?itemid=3198 )

after he said that Iran was providing aid to Al Qaeda in Iraq, a Sunni group. Iran, however, is actually a Shiite nation... also got wrong the details of an Iraqi ceasefire ( http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Once_again_McCain_confuses_Sunnis_with_0408.html )

"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." ( http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml )

asked what to do about Iran. His response? He sang "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" ( rawstory.com/news/2007/McCain_unplugged_Bomb_bomb_bomb_bomb_0419.html )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/14/2008
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The RNC uses the word 'intellectual' as an epithet. Nobody's going to accuse McCain of being an intellectual. What is the opposite of having an intellect, anyway? George Bush Jr.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/14/2008
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Part 2

angry exchange between McCain and his wife that happened in full view of aides and reporters during a 1992 campaign stop. - "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." ( http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html )

John McCain has urged governments not to reward the "irresponsible" by bailing out failing banks ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/26/wmccain126.xml )
--* but wait *--
Bear Stearns, "bailout was necessary to prevent “systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy.” ( http://www.pww.org/article/view/12793/ )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/14/2008
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now I know why Hillary was so complimentary to John McCain, seems there's a agreement between the two camps:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1jm.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 04/14/2008
- Jtt I'm a Fan of Jtt 39 fans permalink
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Dont let the republicans set our agenda. Who cares what they think

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 04/14/2008
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But Hillary DOES NEED TO START ATTACKING MCCAIN instead of constantly complementing him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 04/14/2008

Go ahead and make my day....vot­e for McCain....­the sooner the US collapeses­.....the sooner we can get back to living with principles. Oh one thing MSM....Don­'t think your prone from the collapes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 04/14/2008

Who is editing the candidates Wikipedia.org entries? You may be surprised:

Wikipedia Gate:
http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=94

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 04/14/2008
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Wiki is not a valid source of information, because it's editable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/14/2008

Exactly- read in the link *who* is editing... But to Wikipedia's defense, they have been monitoring this quite closely, as the video on the above link from CNN points out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 04/14/2008
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