Clinton Heckled, Obama Cheered Over 'Bitter' Remarks

The Clinton and Obama campaigns clearly have one thing in common in the wake of Barack Obama's "bitter" remarks: both sides believe the incident provides their candidates with the means to go on the offensive, with Clinton working to paint Obama as "elitist" and Obama seeking to demonstrate that he is "in touch" with the needs of working-class America. It is, of course, too early to assess what lasting impact this story is going to have on the race, but the way the audience at the Alliance For American Manufacturing forum in Pittsburgh received the candidates, and reacted to the issue, will be heartening for the Obama camp. Obama, who greeted the crowd at 8:45am, raised the issue and received applause. Clinton, addressing the same crowd later in the morning, brought up the remarks and received mostly silence, with a few audible impatient jeers.

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Comments

[YellowPanties]

Please, Pennsylvania, put Clinton out of her misery and vote for Obama. Enough is enough already.

[Redrover666]

As an Independent, I pity you poor fools. Political dogma has forced you to make a choice between Urkel and Hillary. Concepts like personal responsibility, belief in god, belief in the sanctity of life, etc. repel you to the point that you have to chose between a vacuous promise of "hope" and a turd sandwich.

[grayforester]

Red, just keep on believing that Barack Obama has introduced no legislation and served on no committees and furthered no policy agendas. A vacuous promise of hope? The candidates all have records, legislative, administrative, public, to name three. You might want to compare them and base your decisions on them. Even if you decide you like John McCain's record best (it's possible - white collar criminals would find it comforting) you will have reached a more considered conclusion than your comment suggests you have.

[Redrover666]

OK

[YellowPanties]

I feel sorry for you.

[ErikW65]

Whereas you'll be voting for McCain, who has made the full promise to keep US Forces in Iraq until an undefined, amorphous victory is won, Good luck with that.

[AllenD]

The "turd sandich" that has been shoved down America's throat is 8 years of Bush, courtesy of Karl "Turdblossom" Rove.

[Redrover666]

I'm not really following you here. I agree Bush is a bad President. I just don't get how Rove shoved him down your throat. Did he hold you down? Did he go on national television and wave his pocket watch back and forth and hypnotize everyone?

Or, is it possible that in the last two elections, when forced to chose between a turd sandwich and a douche-bag, Americans chose a turd sandwich?

Isn't that what elections are all about?

This is generally how it works. Lots and lots of people go to voting places and cast votes. Then someone counts them all up. Then whoever has the most gets to be president.

Then the losers piss and moan for eight years that they were cheated.

[djthedj]

Independent my ass! Did you watch the CNN forum monday night? Of course not, your "independent" mind is already made up. "Personal responsibility"? Hmmmm, like actually paying for all of the spending the whore republicans you keep electing run up instead of borrowing trillions so greedy scum like you don't have to pay taxes? Like that? Does your so-called belief in god inspire your incredible ability to lie your ass off?

[Redrover666]

My goodness, you are very bitter.

Might I suggest a remedy to this problem... Offer the American people a democratic alternative that is able to connect with the majority.

Incidentally, does your mother know you have such a potty-mouth?

[sjl106]

Yeah, obama supporters booed HIllary until they heard exactly what obama had said and that he was answering a question to his SF crowd on why he couldn't win and then the crowd heard that he said it was because small towners were bitter and the cling to guns, god, and bigotry. The audience quieted RIGHT UP and they LOVED HER. You see when people get the facts they change there tune.

[unionpro]

uh . . . .what? i think you may have been watching bugs bunny cartoons. the audience got quiet because they despise her. this is what happens when we drop out of high school - we forget how to pay attention to the details.

Tell me, please, cause I forget - what is the definition of "is?"
pwned

[lenners]

wow, you guys are jerks.
yes you 3.

[coolaid]

Put the crack pipe down now, Clintonista!

[resonate]

Yeah Im sure facts would change your tune.

[JohnTalbutt]

"bigotry" Did I just hear a dog that wasn't hit howl ? ooohoooh

[b2008]

I need to tell you young people something which you don't know. If you have NEVER BEEN BLACK, you can't possibly know what we're talking about. You have to have enough empathy to be able to walk in another man's shoes long enough to realize his feelings.

So when you come up with all these "I KNOW WHY" scenarios, there's no need for us to even read them because we know better. Take a few classes in Black history or live in a Black neighborhood by yourself or with a Black family even. Then you might be able to comprehend SOME!

But stop playing with us. We don't appreciate it and we don't treat you in the same way. I have yet to hear any Black person say "I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE WHITE" because God knows we don't know!

[YellowPanties]

Well, I was Black for awhile. Black, black, blackity black. It was no big deal. I took you up on your offer and went and lived with a Black family for awhile in a Black neighborhood. Meh.

[adeak]

Well, what about the compllication of inter-racial families? What about I married a black woman and I'm Native American? Does that disqualify me from your litany of woes? Am I better off or worse off than you? Should I complain that the US broke all the treaties with my tribe? Is that a bigger or smaller birth defect in the US? Or should I feel justified in judging each candidate in her or his ability to beat the Republican candidate? Don't try to pull this identity politics on me. Nobody can win.

[clearmind2008]

I find all of this remarkable. The obvious double standard that Sen. Obama has had to face for quite some time. The obvious caniving and backstabbing done by the Clintons and all. This is all too much. Sen. Obama, however, has conducted himself very well. He has to be a very intelligent and disciplined person to maintain his composure despite all the attacks against him. At this point, I am not sure what will happen, but it is looking less and less like a democrat will be our next President.

The Clintons should realize one thing. Destruction does not only affect your opponent. Destruction affects all those represented by those detsroyed. Destruction also takes a toll on those who destroy and what they profess to represent.

[b2008]

And he's such a good man, he won't say anything detrimental against her. And to make this seem even worse, Bill Clinton said almost the exact same words Obama said in the 90s and the MEDIA has not even brought it up. Imagine that. If it was vice versa, Obama would have been floored copying Bill's words.

There is DEFINITELY a double MEDIA standard here and this should not have even been a story. Have you heard Clinton even mention the fact that her husband said the same thing during his reign. And you won't. What more do we need to see or hear to make up our own minds in this election.

Do we need more dirt? Do we need more backstabbing. And they asked Obama did he feel this was racial when Hillary said his elitist attiude was on the verge of being pompous. Obama said no, that it was only politics. He took her right off the witch stake. Now nice!

[FDNH]

Annie Oakley?

[jkghostrider]

" ... it is looking less and less likely like a democrat will be our next President.­"

Couldn't agree more. But, hey, we have to see this through. You want people to have the chance to be heard, right? The good of the party, you say? Well, don't ya think that people are uplifted by Karl Rove-esque attacks against Obama?

[b2008]

Oh my God, don't tell me you are listening to Karl Rove. Gee, can you speak his language? You know you have to speak a*sbackwards to understand what he says. If he says it's night, then please know you in the day! He is the wizard of being a "FALSE FACE". Whatever he says, you must think the opposite. For him to be speaking about Obama at all means he is scared sh*tless that Hillary is losing. YEA!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

[coolaid]

To rephrase Ms Ferraro, Clinton wouldn't have gotten this far if she had been a man. A man would not have been able to get away with being caught in so many lies. And she wouldn't be able to get away with saying the things she says about any opponent - Not without being busted in the chops!

[Jay1960]

Hillary Clinton would never have been a Senator or a Presidential Candidate if she was not married to Bill Clinton. Ferraro was right, kind of, but had the wrong facts and candidate. I think having the head of the Harvard Law Review as a presidential candidate is a good thing, particularly when he grew up in a family that did not have old money. What I like about all the candidates is they can speak in full sentences, they do not swagger to the stage, and they do not laugh at their own jokes.

It will be refreshing not having the I Phelta Thi's running the administration next year. I never cared for the fraternity thing and I still don't. The Bush administration just made me like it even less. In fact I won't send my children to colleges and universities with fraternities and sororities just because of George Bush. What a Puke...

[evahartselftlanguages]

TO: Senator Barack Obama Words Do Matter April 15, 2008


Pastor Wright clung to Jesus even though you all ignored this on his tape as he complained against others. Thank goodness the suffering turn to Religion and nothing else. Ugly stereotyping now done away with.

Sirach 4 states,"My son rob not the poor man of his living. Give l0% of your Tithe to the Church and do not rob me sayeth the Lord. Some Jewish people on radio don't obey God for they want to do away with Welfare and Social security. They need a Jewish Court that exists in Israel because they steal from Americans who agree Social Security prgms. God sent evil Jewish people to hell like anyone else for not obeying His Word. Faith Without Works is dead. If a Jewish person told you to commit murder you would not do that . Many Jewish people are good as in any other race, but evil exists in all religions and races.


Social Security a law is to prevent needy people came about because of a Depression for local communities could not help everyone. Their guaranteed incomes would help prevent a Depression. Vanza Devereaux 63. Gov't of a Free Nation. Do not steal from poor nor Christians as myself who obeyed God and quit evil jobs in past .

Elliot Liebow,Jewish Anthropologist, in his 93 book states," IT'S A GOVERNMENT OF ALL AMERICANS.­"

Eva Hart A Christian I was in Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

[SharonB]

I think I can safely say that I am not the only person who would like to know what on earth you are talking about.

[InternationalObserver]

Ditto!

[b2008]

You've said it Sharon. What did she say?

[purplestategal]

I agree with your point about the above comment except that I really DON'T want to know what on earth she was talking about. As they say in NY, fuggedaboutit.

[evahartselftlanguages]

TO: Sharon B April 15, 2008

I worked hard for Social Security money and I don't need thieves taking that away from me or others. Others and Jewish Talk show hosts on radio want to take away Social Security and Welfare programs as one can hear radio talk show hosts talk about this. Aged old peole are our most vulnerable people and to throw them into the gutter is awful. You cannot understand tears and suffering of having no home or food and we must keep in Social Security and Welfare for people.

The Bible states in Sirach, a Jewish Sage, that one should ignore someone who would disparage your home. Three prime needs are water,bread, and a home and the Bible states a home for decent privacy. Even the Bible states in Ecclesiates that people suffer misfortune thus we always need safety net programs to care for others and not just ourselves.

It is clear what I said and you know what I said.

Eva Hart A Christian

[Alecki]

The Clintons are a blessing for our country.
Two brilliant minds. President Clinton is loved througout the world.
The world is laughing at those people that don't know it...such as the brainwashed youth.
Obama has absolutely nothing to offer but hope.
His words...ju­st words.....­is not working for him anymore. Not when he says words are important at the core of his campaign.
What about Reverend Wright's words.....­....I guess they don't matter.
What about his words.....­..........­..........­..........­..I guess they matter.
No they do matter...o­nly some...may­be they do ..........­.maybe they don't matter.
He is such a mess.

[beauley]

Let us the voters study the congressional records and past history of each of the candidates running for presidential office.
"Beware of Wolve's in Sheeps clothing". She will tell you what pleases your ego and put her arms around your children..­.but see what she tried to do more than a decade ago, but was "stopped". Yes, she WILL garnish our paychecks with her Mandatory Healthcare plan. No Freedom of choice.
Just check the 1996 bill submitted to congress by Hillary Clinton and look who saved all America's butts, which includes all our children. Please begin your learning experience here:
http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1998/dec98/psrdec98.html
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/discover-and-imagine-ron-paul/successfully-fought-hillarycare-lite/

[b2008]

Either she is from another country and living in another world.

[buddhistMonkey]

((( "Obama has absolutely nothing to offer but hope." )))

Damn you, hope!!!

((( "His words...ju­st words.....­is not working for him anymore." )))

Here's two words for you: "Yeah, right."

[adeak]

In the words of Jon Stewart: "Too...muc­h...democr­acy..."

[marc1antony]

hahaha! this is funny - brainwashed youth vs Blind Worship of the two biggest liars in american politics. The great american sell-out of our jobs to foreign countries via NAFTA/CAFTA.

Right, we should really take you seriously.

[SharonB]

So, would you say that their brilliant minds were sleep deprived when they have pulled all these gaffes in the last few months?
I do not think a person is brilliant who claims to have faced sniper fire when she did not.
I do not think a person is brilliant who claims to have taken part in the Irish peace process when she did not.
I do not think a person is brilliant who claims that she has what it takes to handle the presidency just because she was married to a former president. (Even if he did give he an office in the West Wing and she did scream at the staff when they did something she did not like.)
I do not think a person is brilliant who goes before congress and claims "I don't remember" dozens of times. (What she can graduate at the top of her class, pass the bar exam, argue law cases for years and when it really matters to have a memory... he memory failed her????)
I do not think a person is brilliant who claims that she found out at the breakfast table by reading the newspaper that her husband had toyed with an intern.
I do not think a person is brilliant when she blames her serial-cheating husband's daliances on a "Vast Rightwing Conspiracy".
I do not think a person is brilliant when she claims to now be a gun lover just to pander to people who do.

[Redrover666]

I agree with your comment completely.

However, you should add;

I do not think a person is brilliant, that attends church services officiated by a ranting bigot.
I do not think a person is brilliant, that does not disavow the bigot.
I do not think a person is brilliant, that characterizes small town Americans as ignorant, bible thumping, gun toting, bigots.

Have you noticed that the worst problems Obama has, all involve race and bigotry. AND, they are all self-inflicted wounds?

[WebDeb]

"Obama has nothing to offer but hope"

Do you even realize what you said? Without hope, nothing can be accomplished. Without hope you can't even get out of bed in the morning. Nations without hope and without faith accomplish nothing. What do you think led to the technological innovations of the 20th century? HOPE - FAITH What do you think inspires a young person to go to college, to declare a major, to set their sights on a profession? HOPE - FAITH Why do you go to work each day? HOPE-FAITH Why do you fall in love, get married, raise children? HOPE-FAITH You can't even turn on your computer without hope that it will start.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not yet seen. It is the polar opposite of fear, which is the platform your beloved Clintons are running on.

Without hope, without faith we can set no goals. We don't know where we are going and we certainly don't have any goals. You can't even buy a bus ticket if you don't know your destination.

Don't tell me HOPE is nothing. HOPE is everything.

[Redrover666]

In this case "HOPE" is the pretty wrapping on an empty box.
"HOPE" is the dope for the simple, gullible masses.

[Alecki]

Clinton was NOT being heckled.
Clinton had said a remark about Obama and the crown was agreeing with her by booing the remarks Obama made about small communities.
Why would they heckle her. She was talking about the way that Obama was acting like an "elitist"
This is stupid.

[kaygee]

I also had the impression that they were agreeing with her.

[marc1antony]

no, no, no... is agree with her? delusional!

[SharonB]

She knew exactly how the crowd felt about her remarks.

[InternationalObserver]

Since I have an open mind, I considered this as a possibility too (that the crowd were booing the Obama comment that HRC referenced) but .... if you play the clip a few times you'll see that HRC seems to adjust her comment mid-sentence. She starts to attack Obama for what he said, but then moderates it and moves on. This to me indicates she read the crowd as hostile to any attempt to attack Obama for his words.

[b2008]

The people there said it was the Union people who were for Obama and they were saying no, oh........­...., so whatever.

[KarenJW]

How can you possibly interpret the response as you have? If they were were in agreement with what Hillary was saying their response would have been in the affirmative. You, like the Clinton desperados are "out of touch".

Sounds as though you took that trip to Bosnia with Hillary and Chelsea and landed under sniper fire!

[Benmyoho]

Of course, the Obama enablers are overt in heckling Hillary Clinton every chance they get. This was the same during the televised debate in Texas. And the same thing happened in Pennsylvania--as if the hissers were doing their thing on cue. It makes you think who's their director?

[ellocoliberal]

Hillary continues to come off as phony as cheap plastic flowers.
Who's her director for the obvious and cheap distortions she can't keep from laying on anyone who'll listen, as well as all that bad play acting she's been engaging in? Mark Penn or Karl Rove?

Maybe its time for her to head back to Bosnia

[sherylsworld]

Does Hillary smoke crack?

[b2008]

At a Hillary speech? Are you for real. Why would anybody do that when they can go to an Obama speech and have fun. I can't imagine an Obama supporter wanting to hear that duldrum speech.

[Malle]

What do you expect from pro-Obama supporters? They lack respect and decoram. No matter how much I dislike Bush, his war policy, his economic policy, I would never heckle him. I know better. I think it says more about those who are supporting Obama than anything else. Grow up and don't belittle the person you are supporting by lacking maturity, self discipline, and respect.

[Horus]

I don't know. People aren't stupid. They know what she was bringing up and her intention in doing so. They felt the negativity and they responded as they felt, by yelling NO. Its not like they were a jeering unruly mob.

[b2008]

I'm an Obama supporter and I would never do such a thing. You must be talking about certain ones and it would have been nice if you were more explicit. I think it's wonderful that we can have a discussion up here in an adult, respectful way. But the media is putting a lot of pressure on supporters of both sides which is beginning to snag some nerves I would assume. Just a though!

[WebDeb]

That's right! Leave all of the disrespectful comments, finger wagging and in your face remarks, the snide laughter, the arrogant head shaking and finger pointing to Hillary. She is the professional.

The audacity of your comment is amazing. You support a woman who refuses to shut up in her allotted time in a debate setting, disrespectfully ignoring the moderators, arrogantly refuses to apologize when she is caught in a lie saying she "mis-spoke, I'm human, much to some people's surprise". which was amazingly similar to Cheney's "so?" remark regarding peoples opinions about the war. She flagrantly lies and her husband lies to cover up her lies. They get caught. Don't apologize.­.. And, you think this is the height of respect and decorum I suppose?

You may know better than to heckle, but that is quite a peculiar position for someone who supports the Clintons.

[SharonB]

Oh yeah... the Clintons know all about decoram (which is actually spelled DECORUM)..­. especially Bill... he knows which end of acigar to do what with.
And, Hillary... did ya notice how she stuck her pinky finger out ever so elegantly while scarfing down that booze???
They are real class...

[b2008]

That's too funny!

[b2008]

Were you there? Even the reporters say they were disagreeing with Hillary's attempt to bash Obama and they only allowed her to speak 5 minutes and they had to escort her off the stage. Now are we to believe you or the people who were there? Hmmmmmmmmm­mmmmmmmmm.

[Plowboy]

Our media will still spin Clinton's distortions of Obama's true analysis of the situation. And it is surprising that so few haven't heard it before. He made it on Charlie Rose. He wrote it in his book "Audacity of Hope" and Clinton stole words from that source to present as her own and attack the well spun false take on him.
She is beneath contempt. But she also claims to have opposed the war. She didn't. She voted with her friends, Joe and Joe and Rahm. Molly Ivins called her on it in 2006.
How the heck can she get away with all her pretending? Samantha was right, but our media loves monsters. (They backed Cheney and Bush, didn't they? Knowingly allowed them to lie about WMDs, about the expected effects of their tax policy, etc.. So their treatment of Hillary -- who has her nose trimmed nightly -- is only what we shoulkd have expected.)

[b2008]

Then we need to express our aggression to the MEDIA instead of each other. That's been my point all day. They are the ones who are making us snap and argue with each other. Can you imagine the story coming to us from an unbiased media source? No, we cannot because it's too late now. The damage has been done and the damage was to us more than Obama. It split us, caused chaos among us, and divided us. DIVIDE CONQUER is the MEDIA'S way of brainwashing us to accept their agenda. If you haven't noticed by now, the media is saying nothing about:

Bill Clintons "I'm seeing signs" statement where he told an audience he was signs of "I'm not bitter" throughout wherever he was travelling. However, those travelling with him reported that there were no signs. And only a few people wore stickers saying "I'm not bitter" with a box of the stickers one Clinton supporter tried to hide behind the stage. What does that tell you?

Either Bill is losing it or he's "seeing dead people" with signs of "not being bitter". The point here is there is enough still outstanding on the Clintons to be in the news more so than a little bitter statement by Obama. It just goes to prove that they are throwing Obama under the bus every chance they get and protecting the Clintons every chance they get.

We need to open our eyes to the REAL CROOKS, THE MEDIA!

[754]

Excuse me, but the media HAS done their job, we all know about the corrupt and incompetent stuff that Bush and the Republicans have done because the corruption and malfeasance have been uncovered and published by the press for everyone to see. We can't do anything about it because we don't have enough Democrats in Congress to overcome cloture or to overide a presidential veto. The only solution I can see is to get more hard nosed Progressives into Congress while hopefully in the meantime Nancy and Harry can hold Bush to a stalemate.

Dare to dream everyone; stalemate, the best we can hope for til fall...

[NewtC]

Right wing pundits are just trying to bolster Hillary Clinton's campaign so the GOP can run their “Anyone but Hillary” campaign next fall. She’s the Republicans’ best Get Out The Vote strategy, even more so than their anti-gay and anti-choice strategies that have spurred their followers to vote in the past. If she wins the nomination, right wing voters will flock to the polls. They don’t just dislike her, they actively despise her! Next year there is more at stake than just the presidency. We have a potentially historic opportunity to fire all the Bush-policy rubber-stamping & obstructionist Republicans in the U.S. Senate and replace them with Democrats who can get us out of Iraq, enact true election reform, and get big business out of our government. Unless anti-Hillary hatred brings out conservatives. The fact is, Obama inspires new voters and might even result in conservatives sitting out the election.

People are fed up with Washington and the status quo. Bush and McSame want us to stay in a war that keeps Iraq oil production low so the Saudis and Bush’s buddies can artificlally raise gas prices. Meanwhile, middle class workers are falling out of the middle class and working people all over the country are struggling because of the economy. The Yes We Can movement is as much about the rest of us wanting to take back our government as it is about Obama's candidacy. And that’s what really scares the Clinton financial backers.

[Roxanna]

Obama does have his thumb on the pulse of America when he says that many Americans"ARE BITTER"about the economy!

How could an average citizen not be when you see what is going on Washington as your ability at the same time to simply provide basics for your family and education is going out the door to a deaf Congress.

If there is an "Elitist" here it is Hilary who has assumed from the very beginning with power of she and her husband that her nomination was in the bag!

[Elen]

The savagery of the attack on the issue of "bitter" seems to me unwarranted but understadable for a desperate Hillary. The word 'bitter' with its synonyms [according to Oxford] of 'dissatisfied' or 'discontented', seems to me to embody the mood of many of my fellow citizens. Sadly, It is true, however, that it is now imperative to speak from notes and not from the heart to avoid the misperceptions due to the ubiquitous hidden technology utilized by bottom feeders that needlessly fowl the waters that, in the end, they too must drink.

[Malle]

Bitter is the wrong word to describe Obama's remarks. What about the fact he called the blue collar workers racist. Isn't that what he really meant with his inartfully expressed statement? Where does he come off sitting in the pew of a church for 20 years listening to anti-white racist remarks and then accuse the blue collar workers of being racist? Is this what we call transcending of race or reaction formation ?

[nowucme]

True loyal supporters of Sen. Clinton would much better serve her best interest by expressing disapproval with the negative manner she's handling her campaign. At this point, she may still salvage some modicum of respectability if she were to start campaigning honorably throughout whatever remainder of this race. A true loyal supporters should tell her, Hillary we love you but please we beg you, no more dodging Bosnian snipers, no more back door Bill Clinton Columbian money deals, please no more name calling and most of all, no more playing with matches in the House of Democrats.

[kamknauss]

No kidding! With four daughters, I was a big Clinton supporter. I would have been fine with any of the Democratic nominees, but I felt an obligation as a woman and defended it again and again. I am now growing more irritated that I am not able to defend her silly practices. Don't get me wrong, I would never buy the books with the goofy shrewlike pics on the front and I am still irritated by the name-calling that people only use to address women in charge. However, I really feel that she is becoming a detriment to the Democratic party, and what should have been a shoe-in, after years of idiocy, may be ruined by this negative campaigning on her part. The people running her campaign have been truly foolish. To not capitalize on being a woman, when so many women can empathize with the problems facing women, was a mistake; evident by the teary-eyed speech that justifiably (I believe) garnered support. It just seems that she is running in the 2004 race and trying to reverse mistakes John Kerry made, but is not realizing that much has changed in those years. People wouldn't quite as stupidly fall for the swift-boat stuff anymore, would they? I dunno, maybe they would. I see a lot of dumb stuff from people online who call him "Hussein" just like the sheep that they are. If she were the candidate, I would vote for her, but I withdraw respect.

[ldsrapha]

Thank you for sharing your honesty. I too have been offended by some of the sexism, but overall I feel that Hillary has been a DETRIMENT to Women's Rights. She is the poster child of what NOT to do. Why is she playing the VICTIM? Why does she have to overcompensate and be all tough and the most experienced? Why can she not be genuine? Why does she have to lie and make up stories and resort to dirty political tricks to try and win? To really prove equal rights women should not have to pander to get ahead. Especially with her resume, financial backing, and political infrastructure. She should have been able to manage a superb campaign and instead has replaced her whole upper team, nearly bankrupt itself, and resorted to absolutely insane political cheap shots to make her case. It is embarrassing and a setback to women everywhere.

[WebDeb]

I appreciate what you are saying. I too supported her and defended her in the beginning of this race. Now I see the absolute worst stereotype of a woman seeking a higher level of management or one who attains a position she is surely insecure about in everything she does.

I listen to her speak and feel scolded like a child. She reminds me of the teacher who wouldn't listen to you, or the boss who never appreciated your efforts. Nothing is good enough, and everything revolves around her. If it weren't so intentional I would feel sorry for her. But instead I feel a need to protect myself, my family and my community from her.

Her campaign has been mismanaged. She cannot keep it together. If she cannot keep her campaign in order and her lies in check, she cannot lead us to work together to fix the many things that the current administration is leaving in shambles. This is serious stuff... Our next president must be able to lead a cohesive force of individuals and get at least 65% of the population behind him to make the changes necessary to get us back on our feet!

She cannot lead. She is trying out for the role people... and failing miserably. Look what she has done to us!

[Peteyman]

I too respected her, and I thought that, despite her faults, she could be a good president. Now I see that she is too negative, and after the kitchen sink, respect for Clinton? Not anymore... Vote for Clinton should she be the nominee? With what I see in McCain, Hillary over him any day. But it will be painful combating Karl Rove.

[mhenderson]

Hillary voted yes on the bill to make filing bankruptcy harder. But, Obama voted FOR tax breaks for the big oil companies in 2005 , and he DID NOT vote to cap interest rates with which credit card companies are financially crippling so many Americans . Hillary voted AGAINST the tax breaks for big oil companies. She voted TO CAP interest rates. Obama said Hillary did not understand that people can't afford to buy insurance. He did this "spin" very early in the campaign. In the current controversy, Obama listed under "they get bitter" the following: "they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a [irrational] way to explain their frustratio­ns." To me, all of these responses appear to be treated in the same class. Certainly, "antipathy to people who aren't like them" has to be construed as a fearful response. By putting "cling to guns or religion" in that same class, Obama does appear to state that enjoying gun sports and standing on religious faith are irrational responses to the economic challenges of our times, just as blind hate of people who don't look like us is a fearful, irrational response. mhenderson

[treadway123]

All this for you Sniper fire, Throwing back shots of whiskey and beer chaseing for our young children to see from Mrs Clinton is a real roll model! No thank you! don't believe her about duck hunting either after all the lie's she's told us in every state she goes to! It's better to talk in a campagne fundraiser forum than it is to talk to the public while you kick back shots of whiskey with beer chasers in a smoke filled Bar! The Pennsylvania people should appreciate that Obama talked at a fund raiser and not a Bar while feeling your booze like Hillary done! Know if she wanted to sip on a beer a little and do it slowly to show appreciation of culture or whate-ever­------FINE­----------­-----But tossing down Shots of whiskey like a man, and chaseing it with beer, and talkling about hunting ducks to further sound like one of the boys, is insulting!

[k6007]

She couldn't even so that correctly. Any boilermaker drinker worth the salt around the tequila glass knows you drink the liquor first, not the beer!

[ErikW65]

If you're going to make charges, you should back them up.

Re. Oil Company tax breaks, you say Hillary voted against them, and that Obama voted for them. Checking factcheck.org shows this is a LIE!

"Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away."

Both Clinton and Obama voted "Aye" on H.R. 6.

If I have time, I'll research your other contentions, but I think this should show readers you're not to be believed.

Again, if you can take the time to make a serious accusation against a presidential candidate, then provide backup, because the burden of proof should be on the accuser!


-Emi Kolawole

[ErikW65]

PS Emil Kolawole wrote the quoted comment above for factcheck.org.