Thomas Frank On Obama: Not That Controversial

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Thomas Frank, the author who redefined the perception of the red state/blue state divide in America, says he doesn't find Sen. Barack Obama's comments on the bitterness of small-town Midwesterners all that alarming.

"People are bitter in small towns," Frank told the Huffington Post. "People are bitter everywhere. I don't know if you have seen the stock market -- people are bitter about their situation. It doesn't strike me as a very controversial statement."

Frank, who famously penned the book "What's The Matter With Kansas?" had been away this past weekend and missed the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks. Read the quotes over the phone, he said he was "disinclined to comment" further as he was hoping to devote his time to his upcoming book on Republican politicians in Washington D.C. rather than media requests.

However, his comments on the Obama flap reflect what was the underlying premise of his hit book: mainly, that people were voting against their economic interests because conservatives had galvanized them around political-identity issues.

"I chose to observe the phenomenon by going back to my home state of Kansas, a place that has been particularly ill-served by the conservative policies of privatization, deregulation, and de-unionization, and that has reacted to its worsening situation by becoming more conservative still," Frank wrote of the methodology behind his book in 2004. "Indeed, Kansas is today the site of a ferocious struggle within the Republican Party, a fight pitting affluent moderate Republicans against conservatives from the working-class districts and the downmarket churches. And it's hard not to feel some affection for the conservative faction, even as you deplore their political views. After all, these are the people that liberalism is supposed to speak to: the hard-luck farmers, the bitter factory workers, the outsiders, the disenfranchised, the disreputable."

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The recent political, and at times sociological, debate comes after Huffington Post's OffTheBus reported that Obama claimed workers were bitter and clinging to guns, religion and anti-immigration sentiment because of their difficult economic situations. Since then, Obama has acknowledged that his statement was ill constructed. But he has stuck by the premise, repeating it during CNN forum last night.

"What I was saying is that when economic hardship hits in these communities, what people have is they've got family, they've got their faith, they've got the traditions that have been passed onto them from generation to generation. Those aren't bad things. That's what they have left," he said. "And, unfortunately, what people have become bitter about -- and oftentimes have told me about, as I traveled through not just Pennsylvania, but I was referring to states all across the Midwest, including my home state -- is any confidence that the government is listening to them. They don't think that government is listening to them."

Obama's political opponents have not granted him such leeway. At the same forum last night, Sen. Hillary Clinton ripped into the Illinois Democrat, saying his marks were elitist, patronizing and all to reminiscent of Democratic failures from the past.

"But from my perspective the characterization of people in a way that really seemed to be elitist and out of touch is really something that we have to overcome," Clinton said. "The Democratic Party, to be very blunt about it, has been viewed as a party that didn't understand and respect the values and the way of life of many of our fellow Americans."

Thomas Frank, the author who redefined the perception of the red state/blue state divide in America, says he doesn't find Sen. Barack Obama's comments on the bitterness of small-town Midwesterners all...
Thomas Frank, the author who redefined the perception of the red state/blue state divide in America, says he doesn't find Sen. Barack Obama's comments on the bitterness of small-town Midwesterners all...
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Obama is trying to tell the potential customers at the political carnival that they should not fall for the snake oil salesmen and other carnival barkers who have been treating them as suckers. Then Clinton and McCain bark out that Obama is talking down to the customers and insulting them, and they should keep on buying all the snake oil they need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/15/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 172 fans permalink

And let's not forget that she said we should buy it, "eagerly!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 04/15/2008
- Insightful I'm a Fan of Insightful 8 fans permalink

OBAMA AND HIS WIFE ARE extremely bitter. He has allied himself with that minister who spouts off all that angry rhetoric and he is raising his children to buy into it. He embraces his minister's beliefs
and none of you who are voting for him feel alarm bells going off.

WHY DEFEND HIM?? If you vote him into office you will see the true Barack. He is hiding behind all that charming rock star personality and too many people are just not listening.

Can we afford another mess in the White House?? Take another look and stop excusing this guy.

He is an extremely arrogant and dangerous personality. SCARY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/15/2008
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Is it "scary" for you? Odd description, your "Arrogant and dangerous"... Yet, I would call them "intelligent and sincere". Hate to tell you this, but you sound like a person whose vision is a bit blurred trying to look through a white sheet. And before the hairs on your seemingly red neck get all stiff, I'm a white, educated female... Is that as scary for you I wonder?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/18/2008

Bitter was too strong a word to be used in this context. And to suggest that loss of jobs and the local state of economy would cause bitterness such that one would seek comfort in guns and religion is demeaning. If that were the case one would think that religion played a bigger role in the workplace and it doesn't. God is not in the business of creating jobs. However, local churches could be involved in retrenchment programs that might attract and serve parishioners. Hug guns? Low blow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 04/15/2008

wHY ARE THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO DEFEND o'BAMA'S bIG BLUNDER, EVEN AFTER HE HAS ADMITTED IT WAS A MISTAKE..............iT SEEMS THEY CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT..........o'BAMA bLUNDERED..............................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 04/15/2008
- DocJerome I'm a Fan of DocJerome 21 fans permalink

Right, . . . he wrote that book for the sole purpose of defending Sen. Obama's taken out of context, misconstrued comments. That makes perfect sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/15/2008

tHE REPORTERS HAVE TRIED MANY METHODS TO MAKE O'BAMA'S big BLUNDER.....EXCUSABLE///

i THOUGHT HE WAS "ARTICULATE".................o'BAMA WAS CAUGHT PANDERING FOR MONEY AMONG sANFRANCISO....LIBERALS.......IN A CLOSED DOOR MEETING.....WHERE HE THOUGHT HE WAS NOT BEING TAPED OR RECORDED....AND WE GOT A REAL LOOK AT HOW HE TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE...AND WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT PEOPLE....

o'BAMA SPEAKS WITH "FORKED TOUNGUE". WE HAVE DISCOVERED......nOW THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO SPIN......AND SPIN.......

wHY SHOULD ANYONE BUT o'BAMA DEAL WITH THE WORDS OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH........


OBVIOUSLY ,,,,,,,WE CAN'T "BELIEVE" THE WORDS COMIN OUT OF HIS mOUTH..............................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 04/15/2008
- DocJerome I'm a Fan of DocJerome 21 fans permalink

To misspeak and to lie are two totally different things. The worse thing of all however, is to claim to know the difference between the two, and intentionally not acknowledge that difference when it presents itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/15/2008

Anyone who has paid attention to what has happened to America under the GOP is bitter, the others are that solid 28% who still tick the box for George.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 04/15/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 4 fans permalink

What is strange, folks will tell 1-3 that they are bitter, and why. They just won't tell a group of more that, that they actually said anything. Obama got caught up in a conversation with PA voters who are willing to admit their feelings in public. aka folks whowon't admit to be too poor to lime, and too proud to whitewash. This is an old saying from years back. Yes these folks are bitter, upset etc, but they just dont want to admit in public that they actually feel this kind of pain and anguish about the condition of their small town. As a fighter and want to be helper for these people, Obama spoke out that something needs to be done because these folks are tired of Washington do nothingers, and false promises. Go tell it on the Mountain. Over the hills and everywhere. Obama did this. Hil wanted to get her supporters to get mad at Obama so she crossed up the lot. She lied. She told HER supporter that Obama was talking down to THEM. Not true. Obama reported on what HIS supporters told HIM. This is different. Therefore, Hil & Bil made false remarks to the poor People to get them to hate Obama. Thats why Hil needs to find the end of this Bus ride. She's misleading voters for votes and delegates to win this nominee. This should not happen. so wake up America. Vote Obama in 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 04/15/2008
- ddlrid I'm a Fan of ddlrid 5 fans permalink

Fantastic post...thank you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 04/15/2008
- Kache I'm a Fan of Kache 34 fans permalink
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OK, so what is Hillary going to stoop to next? She thinks evolution is bunk? Global warming was invented by that elitist Gore? The sun goes around the earth?

The last time we elected the candidate that "you'd rather have a beer with" worked our real good for us all, now didn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 04/14/2008

It is one man talking about, in short hand for the astute, the fact that was illuminated upon in Frank's book "What's the matter with Kansas" in which he talks about the right wing focusing the attention of poor America on those issue (gays, guns and God) and guiding them to vote for the party that helped create their prediciment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 04/14/2008
- agandia I'm a Fan of agandia 10 fans permalink
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What Senator Obama left out is that downtrodden people (in small towns and large) often turn to their celebrity worship magazines, mindless tv shows, and frivolous gossip blather instead of paying attention to important issues like who screwing them out of what is righfully their's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 04/14/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 172 fans permalink

OOOO, don't run for office--that's just a little too honest, LOL. Good one though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 04/14/2008
- mawrm I'm a Fan of mawrm 24 fans permalink

What did southerners do when they weren't as prosperous as their northern neigbhors? Heard of the term "Bible Belt"? Gun control advocates don't get regularly elected in Southern states. And up until recently, the South was not seen as a good place for Northerners to venture, much less foreigners. Fueling the fires of racism in the Jim Crowe era allowed those exploiting poor blacks AND whites to play them against each other for their own benefit, denying them the power of unity to take on the ruling elite - the whole point of Obama making the comment tying back to PA's economic problems which make folks "bitter". Today, it's illegal immigrants. It was Clinton supporter James Carville who termed PA as "Pittsburgh in the west, Philly in the east and Alabama in the middle".

We are blessed to have a political system that allows us to "vent" our frustrations, whereas others aren't so lucky and they exhibit the same proclivities to the extreme. Afghans embraced fundamentalist Taliban (God), hate the West (xenophobia), and live by their AK-47s (guns) - witness the poor economic/political conditions there. Notice Iraqis now gravitating in that direction. In fact, fundamentalism, guns and xenophobia are _embraced_ when the "democratic processes" fail to bring equity, peace and prosperity.
In ridiculing and twisting Obama's observation, both Clinton and McCain demonstrate how much THEY are out of touch not only with the American people but with the rest of the world in failing to comprehend and appreciate Obama's comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/14/2008

I live in south western PA and say "thank you Senator Obama" for listening to us. You got it exactly right. In fact you are the first politician to get our situation correct. For the last 30 yrs since the steel mills closed, the economy has gone from worse to worse. Our local politicians have been totally incompetent. They have done nothing to bring new jobs into the Pittsburgh area. Only a couple years ago did it occur to them to try to keep the smart students at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt and other universities here to start their own companies.

I am excited about voting for you on April 22 and in November. I have watched as you put together people from all walks of life. If you can put us together as president, I really think that we can improve this country. Hillary will "fight" with congress and the republicans and get nothing done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/14/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 172 fans permalink

chicago, at last a voice of the people! Let's see how our resident neo-cons go about trying to disprove what you live every single day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/14/2008

The racist arrogance imbedded in Clinton's attack on Obama as "elitist" and "out of touch with small town America" is not easy to miss: "How dare you black man pretend to know what irks working class white folks?" And "how dare you black man pretend to psyco-analyze white working class voters."

Yea, that's what Clinton and his "what does this black man want" gang are effectively saying. These same people who have made a cottage industry out of telling black people what is wrong with them and what is in their best interest, somehow feign offense at the idea of a black candidate trying to suggest that he connects with white working class folks and understands their feelings.

The Clintons' racial balkanization campaign is pitiful. Madam Clinton, you do not own white working class voters merely by virtue of your "race" (whatever that means). Obama is as entitled to air his opinion about small town America as you and your husband are wont to do about black inner city communities. Your racist arrogance is finally showing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 04/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

That racism could be construed actually both ways. And based on some of my conversations out here in the midwest, some thought he was calling them racists which they perceived as racism on his part without ever hearing what Hillary Clinton thought about the comment. Most had either read the comments or heard MSM people talking about it rather than Hillary Clinton or John McCain. And most of them hate Hillary as much as you do and don't much cotton to having her the nominee, either. I think there are as many who would choose none of the above as those who want any of the three folks still running. Most people in the central states which call themselves the midwest are not seeing the ads that must be playing in further east to let the candidates form theri opinions...like the candidates really can much anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 04/14/2008
- Suprshrink I'm a Fan of Suprshrink 6 fans permalink

This post is over the top. This has nothing to do with racism. The problem all along has been Obama's willingness to use race against Clinton to win over the black vote and avoid the issue when it hurts him politically, and here you go again using race to make excuses for Obama's own speech. What he said has less to do with whether he rightly or wrongly described Pennsylvanians but that he thought he could carry a sociological message to his liberal San Francisco donors about people in a state that none of them relates to. This was not the time, the place, or the manner in which he should have addressed the issue of bitterness, if in fact that was his intent. What I heard on the tape was that he was trying to explain why he, God's gift, the anointed one was not winning in Pennsylvania. In that context, his response is quite disturbing. It truly makes him sound like he is putting down working class Pennsylvanians for not understanding that they should vote for him. Even if there is an intellectual way to describe the characteristics of voters from all over the country, perhaps it is better kept to oneself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 04/15/2008
- ddlrid I'm a Fan of ddlrid 5 fans permalink

Astute observations! "Elitist" is the new "Uppity".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 04/15/2008

I continue to say this...'elitist' is not about money...it's about an attitude towards people that you do not understand, people you think are 'beneath you' in class, education or employment...it's about station in life...snobbery and accusations of racial bias stemming from ignorance.

But if you insist on making the argument about $$$ how 'bout this for big money...liar, liar, pants on fire!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/rezko/2008/04/obama_bomb_dropped.html

...Obama let the mask drop inadvertantly...the Dem Party owes it to the voters to make really sure about the nominee before we all go jumping off the cliff after that fool Howard Dean...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 04/14/2008
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Wow Goldie! That was very well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/14/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Yes. Because telling people one thing: I am against NAFTA, then having it proved a lie, and then telling them AGAIN, shows you have so much confidence in their intelligence.

Look. He was talking about voting habits, not personal ones.

If you - and the stupid media - bothered to listen to the whole thing in context, he was discussing how voters cling to issues to -vote- on, because they can't vote on economic ones. Clinton has simply excluded the context, and distorted it to suit her ends

She is telling you that he said they were bitter and turned TO guns and religion - instead of what he DID say - that they are bitter and voting ABOUT guns and religion.

And you have sucked it right up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 04/14/2008
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You are talking about his apology. His original statement was about bitter people clinging to racism, xenophobia, and religious zealotry.

It has been in all the papers. You should read about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/14/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 30 fans permalink

Oh yeah he sits over there at the trinity united church of christ with all of those elitists. He's a muslum, he's a white hater, he's an elitist. He is going to be the next president of the united states and withstand with integrity any test you and others like you give him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/14/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 172 fans permalink

Obama cares that for 3 successive administrations we have ALL been lied to manipulated. He cares enough to bring it out in the open when every other candidate runs at the thought of discussing the real plight of the working people in this country! He won't sugar coat it or spin fairy tales of how "my fellow americans are just pleased as punch to be living in this great country that bails out the ultra wealthy and takes the homes of the rest of you who aren't already in Iraq. He's willing to take some heat for broaching a subject that every other candidate won't touch with a ten foot ballot, because it goes against the established power base that they owe their continued existence to--the Corporations. He should make this a part of every speech he gives. He should talk about how we are diverted from the issues that have a real effect on us and our families and how we are aimed like weapons toward the very things that make us fear each other. He should talk about how government and the media set us up to be knee jerk voters--how they rely on that, in fact--and how they continue to do the business of government to the detriment of those very same citizens. He should blow the lid off this whole, dirty, secret mess that keeps Americans afraid, angry and yes, very very bitter at the betrayal we have experienced from our own leaders!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/14/2008
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Obama Cares enough to tell people they are dimwits for not realizing he is the answer to all their problems.

Only Obama can solve the problems of small towns and cities who have chased businesses away. Only Obama can give them what they rightfully deserve.

How is he going to do it you ask? Well it's simple. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Why stop at three successive administrations unless that is all that is in your memory bank? Most of them from before Nixon's time have been based on lies and manipulation. And, will continue to be, about some things, no matter who ends up being elected. Our hope is fewer things rather than none as we are pretty realistic in the middle part of the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 04/14/2008

the only thing he cares about is himself. and he is banking on people just like you voting for him, because you have not done your homework and learned about him. He is egomaniacal, as is his whiney wife, and he hates whitey just like his wife and Wright do, it's in his first book. talk about dirty sneaky tricks and lies. Obama is busy writing his own "play book" on dirty politics. But it is change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 04/14/2008
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Well the Clintons would have the same thing to answer to.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22839654/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 04/14/2008

Keep it simple Obama: Who is calling me an elitist? The folks who "earned" $109M since trying to slip out the back with White House furniture not their property? Or, the Pub First-Wannabee Family who own EIGHT houses around the world, and who have a reported net worth more than $100M? Tell me again how well THEY feel your pain!

BTW, doesn't it occur that these so-called 6-figure "speaking fees" are more BRIBES than earned money? Give me a break, when you give someone $50k-$100 PER HOUR, you are not paying them for value, you are buying something most folks call bribes! Don't we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 04/14/2008
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To be an elitist more is necessary than just a lot of money. You must also think that your opinions and your understanding is superior to that of another class. Obama's comments meet all the requirements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 04/14/2008

Indeed, one can live in a shack and still have an elitist attitude. It's not a measurement of money or else one would start to wonder about Kerry, Kennedy, Oprah; you know all those other people worth millions who support Obama. Wait, maybe we are on to something here. Didn't Obama have two meetings with Bloomberg - a Republican b-b-b-billionaire? Get serious here folks. mgsorens is on target.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 04/14/2008

Exactamundo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 04/14/2008
- mawrm I'm a Fan of mawrm 24 fans permalink

Then then does one describe why down-on-their-luck voters continue to vote against their best interests and elect fat cat Republicans who make millions more for themselves and their buddies in the process? Obama was asked a question about why it was difficult to appeal to blue-collar folks in PA and he was trying to describe the mechanisms that make it difficult to convince folks to vote FOR their own interests - because "bitter" people are routinely distracted at the ballot box by wedge issues like God, guns, illegal immigration, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 04/14/2008
- Kache I'm a Fan of Kache 34 fans permalink
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You described Bill and Hillary to a tea! For 8 years they preached, "Yes we know that globalization will ship your jobs overseas, but it's for your own good. You'll have to get an education to survive, but hey, that's a good thing, clod".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 04/14/2008
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

What Senator Clinton said last night was despicable:

"Someone goes to a closed-door fund-raiser in San Francisco and makes comments that do seem elitist, out of touch and, frankly, patronizing."

Listen to her. Every single time she talks about this, she manages to work San Francisco into the sentence. Why? Because, for conservatives, San Francisco is code for elitist, gay, and liberal. And Hillary, in her cynical, triangulating, Republicrat, phony way is willing use San Francisco as a way to drive a wedge between Obama and his potential supporters. And this is PRECISELY the sort of crappy, divisive, opportunistic Washington garbage that Obama was talking about. And it pisses people off. And that's why Obama is getting cheers and standing ovations today and Hillary is getting booed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/14/2008

You are missing her point, which was he didn't come out and say this at a rally in Philly or Pittsburgh but in a closed door event across the country to an entirely different crowd of people who can sit and sip their chablis while their hearts bleed for those poor bitter people in the boondocks of middle America. As for cheers vs. jeers, you can buy both with a little street money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 04/14/2008
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but he had before on public tv and was it closed to the media. if not this meant there was every chance this would get out which moots her point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/14/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

But at least 3 accounts I have read from people there, including Fowlers account, says they were all just regular people - not rich, not poor. Like middle class to a bit well to do. And no one mentions that he was answering a question from a volunteer who was going to PA to work.

And yet I see people making up total fabrications about what the event was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 04/14/2008
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"closed door event"? Huh? Where the hell do you get that nonsense? Mayhill Fowler was the MEDIA REPORTER who recorded the incident.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 04/14/2008
- ddlrid I'm a Fan of ddlrid 5 fans permalink

I am from California, and I was furious to hear hillary crap on San Francisco last night. Just so effortlessly threw a city in a state that she WON under that big-ass bus. She doesn't care who she witch-slaps as she panders to her REPUBLICAN base through lying, triangulation, and revisionist history. I feel sorry for all of those folks falling for her pitiful song and dance...outside of her corporate godfathers, she finds all of us expendable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/14/2008

He was in San Francisco! The press was not allowed in..... he was with millionaires and billionaires who paid (donated) 2,300.00 each to meet behind closed doors (invitation only).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 04/14/2008
- Beowoof I'm a Fan of Beowoof 10 fans permalink

Great point! Obviously she is not going after the Pennsylvania gay vote, but how quickly she will sell them down the river. Her campaign is like a virus attacking a wound. I don't like her at all, but all she had to do was let the media jackals do their thing and sit back and watch. Terrible and wretched campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 04/14/2008

She keeps bringing up San Francisco because when Barack Obama said those condescening things HE WAS IN San Francisco talking to millionalires and billionaires and trying to explain to those wealthy people what "small town people" feel like and why they are they way they are. He was making fun of the "poor" people..... Good grief Read about it. Why defend him? He is a liar. He feels like he is above the average guy. http://www.zombietime.com/obama_visits_billionaires_row/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 04/14/2008
- Kache I'm a Fan of Kache 34 fans permalink
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That's right kelly, read about it! Your "millionalires and billionaires" were all middle class people. Sure, "middle class" in prosperous California is WAY above "middle class" out where you come from, but there were certainly no "millionalires and billionaires" in the room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 04/14/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 172 fans permalink

this is just an out and out falsehood, all of it--I call bullshit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 04/14/2008
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