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Obama Outraises Clinton Among Small Town Pennsylvanians

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April 15, 2008 03:00 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Sen. Barack Obama's political opponents charge that his recent remarks on the economic woes and bitterness of low-income voters put him gravely out of touch with small town Pennsylvanians.

But a review of campaign finance records -- conducted for The Huffington Post by the Spotfire Division of software firm TIBCO -- reveals that it is Obama, not Sen. Hillary Clinton, who has received the majority of donations from these very same Keystone State communities.

Indeed, through the end of February 2008, Obama received nearly $250,000 in contributions from Pennsylvanians residing in zip codes with populations under 30,000 people. That total, which does not include Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and both city's suburbs, was roughly $30,000 more than the amount raised by Clinton: $220,000.

When the population size is made even smaller, Obama continues to best his Democratic rival. Among those non-urban Pennsylvania zip codes with populations under 20,000, the Illinois Democrat has brought in just over $200,000. Clinton has raised slightly more than $170,000.

(Obama's advantage may in fact be even stronger than these numbers show, since campaigns do not provide information on donors who gave under $200, a subset where Obama has excelled. See the complete data here.)

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"Essentially, this is a separation between the smaller areas in Pennsylvania as opposed to the two major cities and their surrounding areas," said Tim Wormus, an analytics guru with Spotfire. "It gives you a much different demographic and donation profile than when you just look at the state as a whole."

Obama's advantage in these small rural communities is undoubtedly a reflection of his broader organizing and fundraising prowess. In March, for example, the senator raised twice as much as Clinton -- $40 million to her $20 million -- which in turn likely added to his small town Pennsylvania fundraising lead.

But the figures also cut against some conventional political wisdom: mainly, that Clinton has been challenging Obama almost strictly on the large advantages she has in rural, white communities.

Of course, the predictive powers of fundraising data are highly debatable. Rep. Ron Paul, for instance, did not win a single election in the Republican primary despite raising more than most of his challengers. And because the sample size of this query is small (smaller communities have fewer donors), and because Obama's remarks on the economic angst of these towns were only recently made, it would be difficult to jump to any conclusion about the state of Pennsylvania's upcoming primary based on the contributions of its low-populated communities.

Nevertheless, campaign finance experts argue, fundraising records do provide a limited snapshot of where voters will ultimately lean politically.

"People who contribute money are going to vote," Massie Ritsch, a spokesperson for the Center for Responsive Politics, recently told The Huffington Post. "I don't think anyone is making a contribution to a candidate and then staying home on Election Day. Because of that you can draw some conclusion about a candidate's popular support based on the money that they've raised."

 
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NOT ONE OF THE MEDIA HACKS LAST NIGHT ASK HILLARY ABNOUT HER SUPPORT NAFTA AND THE WAR, THEN HER FLIP FLOPS ON BOTH AND THE FACT THAT HER HUSBAND BILL SUPPORT FOR THE NAFTA TRADE AGREEMENT WITH COLUMBIA THAT WILL CAUSE MORE AMERICANS TO LOSE THEIR JOBS. WHAT ABOUT MARK PENN AS THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUPPORTS OF NAFTA!! MAKE HER EXPLAIN THAT RELATION TO HER NAFTA STANCE!!


NO THE MEDIA HACKS WANT TO KEEP IT ALL AGAINST OBAMA...

MEDIA HACKS ARE JUST LIKE THE CLINTOONS.. EMBARRASSING TO US ALL...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/17/2008

With all the money he took from Pennsylvanians only to wage a Glitzkrieg ad campaign to pummel away any rational thought, it's OBAMA who SHOULD GET OUT OF THE RACE IF "HE" DOESN'T WIN PA BY DOUBLE DIGITS; after all he campaigned WITH TRIPLE THE ADVERTISING BUDGET OF HIS OPPONENT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 04/21/2008
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They're BITTER because this race has gone on a month too long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 04/16/2008

Clinton is representing the poor sick and lame-Obama is representing the well to do and republican lites-of course he will out raise her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 04/16/2008

Washington Post poll: 62% of Democrats believe that Senator Obama is more ELECTABLE in the general election than Hillary (39%). It's amazing! In spite of all the garbage that's been thrown at him, HE'S STILL RISING!

I know! I know! Polls are not very reliable, but they do give us a sense of how the tide is turning; and this tide seems to be turning in Senator Obama's favor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/16/2008

The media and the so called analysist got it all wrong as usual. Matthews can spit all over the cameras as much as he wants, he hasn't got a clue. Five continous days of Bitter-Gate, endless hours of Rev. Wright and BAMBAM still rises in the polls while Hillary is sucking hind teet. Hillary with a whopping 58% saying she is a dishonest person and most of the nation thinking BAMBAM has a better chance of beating McNUTZ in the general election, she should do the right think for the party and step aside so we can get on with the business of ridding ourselves of the idiotic republicans once and for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/17/2008

Good thing that Obama raised most of that money before telling those people to stick it. 56% of small town voters do not agree with his elitist and pompous comments.

Clearly, the majority of PA supports Clinton because they are simply informed and not bitter. For example, Everyday people call Clintons plan Universal, Obama and the Health Care lobby like to call the same plan mandatory. It is so obvious he is in the bag with the HMOs.

Maybe if he did not have a loophole for the Health Care industry and used the same attack ads the Industry and lobbyists used to kill Universal Health Care in 1993, they might believe him or they would support him instead. You know things like issues instead of personal attacks.

Elitism is mostly about looking down at folks who in a practical sense are every bit as smart as you are. Obama has this down cold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 04/16/2008

Maybe you missed this, but for the last month, if not longer, it has been widely known that the "blue-collar" community or "small town voters" were not going to vote for Senator Obama ANYWAY. Not because of any comments he made, but because of who he is. And many of them are also supporting Senator Clinton, not because of her health-care plans, but because she's not Senator Obama! So the 56% who do not agree with him is not a surprise to anyone! Elitism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder; and if you see Senator Obama as someone who is looking down on people or suggesting that they do not have the potential to be every bit as smart as he is, then your perspective is obviously being guided by something in you, perhaps your own insecurities, because clearly, most Americans do not see this in the same way you do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/16/2008

Very nice comments.
We are above all else an aspirational country and have been from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 04/16/2008

Rural Pennsylvanians aren't as stupid as you and your comments. If they really felt that way, how can Obama out raise Hillary in the rural parts of the state. As Huffington mentioned, these figures do not count the smaller donations under $200...And why would Obama be rising in the PA polls. .You really need to educate yourself and get a life....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/17/2008

if hilary wanted to help the people so bad, then why didn't she help with some of these orphan children's contributions, and other needed charities?
No all she did wasput 10 million into the Clinton museum.


I ask you does this sound like she cares about us?

Wake up people!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/16/2008
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God if the Huffpost had an IQ test to be able to post most of you wouldn't be able to post! They put the money in a Foundation, then the Foundation gives money out. So Bill Gates gives his foundation billions of dollars and the foundation funds educational, heath and welfare programs and thats bad? Its not like she gave $22,00 to Reverend Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 04/16/2008
- IRIE I'm a Fan of IRIE permalink

Obama did not give 22k to Rev. Wright. That was the sum of donations made to church programs like after school care and community outreach. Try again...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 04/16/2008

READ THIS GOOD FOLKS

They said on the news this morning, that if Obama is our president he is going to have the attorney general, look into all the crime that has taken place in the White House.



Obama is a more likeable guy. He didn"t raise all this questionable money. People want to meet him, not her. The world can see this. Look at the crowds he draws

No wonder Hilary wants the presidency so bad. Like I said yesterday " She May Be Going To Jail"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/16/2008

Please. If he felt so strong about this why does he not do something about it NOW? He is in the Senate and can investigate. Maybe he would need to pull a Republican or two in, but the great unite should have no problem with that dont ya think?

Maybe he will just do the same thing he did for the last six years in the IRAQ was after his speech. In case people forgot it was Nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 04/16/2008

I don't know what to think about Obama. Negative things just keep coming out about him. Now CBS is reporting more bad associates and it makes me wonder if he is going to be crushed in the general election. Here is the article by a CBS reporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/11/opinion/main4009369.shtml#ccmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/16/2008

Are you still regurgitating this same old crap? Negative people keep recycling the same so-called negative things. People like you, the dividers. The Profiteers. Those who do well when we all do poorly. You need to stop this hogwash...it only makes both your McCandidates look like spoiled brats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 04/16/2008

If you think Obama has negatives, you're right! And so do you & I and Bush & Hillary & Bill & McCain...

But wait until McCain's negatives begin to sprout. There will be much sprouting going on.

Sprout here! Sprout there! Sprout over there! oops and some more over here!

And Hillary? She's been sprouting.. a bunch of BS all over the "sweet land of liberty"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 04/16/2008

Not a "CBS reporter", but National Review Online. Now that's an objective source. If you "don't know what to think", why not just vote for McCain and enlist to fight and die, since, as McCain said, "I hate to tell you there will be more wars". Amazing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/16/2008

Yes, Corporate America is very much afraid of him....Westinghouse is still a major MIC player and they own CBS if no longer outrightly, then they are still major stockholders. This is more of the same....they fear prosecution if the man is elected....they are terrified....they want Clinton or McCain...for they are both Corporatist prostitutes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/16/2008
- rvme I'm a Fan of rvme permalink

Why do facts bother you so much? The guy is from the "Blame America:" wing of my democratic party. Far to the left of mainstream America. The term Birds of a Feather is very salient when it comes to Barack Hussein Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/16/2008

bullcrap Hillbot gaming propaganda.....the kitchen sink did not work....the bathroom sink did not work.....now they are trying an unflushed commode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 04/16/2008

Huffington-Sam Stein has mastered a great skill of objectivity in his reporting. His articles always tend to spark numerous reponses on this blog. Good reporting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/16/2008

I'm a Hillary supporter and will vote McCain.

Obama has no original ideas, all talk no action, and way too liberal. He'll give the country away and everyone will have housing units like they did back in communist Russia while he'lll be living the good life.

He is definitely a limousine liberal and a Senator not an outsider.

Btw people. We can not up and run from IRAQ . I was against the war but we are there now. Your going be disappointed because he won't pull us out once he actually understands what is going on and the results of pulling out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 04/16/2008

gsikev wrote: "I'm a Hillary supporter and will vote McCain ... Btw people. We can not up and run from IRAQ . I was against the war but we are there now. Your going be disappointed because he won't pull us out once he actually understands what is going on and the results of pulling out."

I'm a little confused, gsikev?

You say we cannot up and run from Iraq, but your candidate, Hillary Clinton, has the SAME policy on Iraq that Obama does. She says she's going to start drawing down our troops within her first 60 days in office.

I'm trying to follow your logic, but based on your words, it sounds like you've always been a McCain supporter. Please help me understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/16/2008

Crozier is in "SPIN-DRY" just like McBush (a.k.a McCain)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 04/16/2008

gsikev......you are a Hillary supporter (ROFLMAO).......yes, you are part of the Oxycontin Rush - Democrat DINO for a DAY......who will vote "AGAINST her own best interests" because a Democrat is "TOO LIBERAL".....let me get up from the floor and catch my breath.....ROFLMAO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 04/16/2008

Right: Hillary is worth $109 Million, and yet Barack Obama, who lived in a single parent household and whose mother was on food stamps for a time, is the "limosine liberal". Do you actually have any original thoughts? Any at all?

"I was against the war but we are there now."
-Your gullibility is showing. Most people don't want to own something after they find out they were conned into buying it. So you want to continue the $12 Billion a month occupation ad infinitum even as the US economy slips closer to depression?

If ignorance isn't strengh: why are there republicans (or trolls)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 04/16/2008

I'm an Obama supporter and will vote for OBAMA THE GREAT in 08' !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 04/16/2008

O I C U R 2?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 04/16/2008

I've become weary of hearing angry Clinton supporters say they are going McCain in the general. I recognize that many folks have spent much of their adult life dreaming of a Hillary presidency, and to see her self-destruct must be a bitter pill to swallow. But please, don't do a childish, "see what you made me do," action that would shoot yourself, your party and your country in the foot. I believe that Hillary will do the right thing and lift Obama's arm up at the convention (or earlier) and urge all her supporters to work hard to defeat McCain in the fall and all but a very few very angry HRC supporters will do just that when the hurt and dissappointment have worn off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 04/16/2008

Of course Hillary will do the right thing. She always does. That's why I support her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 04/16/2008

$109 million earned and HRC thought her campaign was only worth rewarding $5 million!!! Even she knows her campaign isn't worth every effort!!! I bet Bill helped get Chelsea that JOB at the hedge fund company!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 04/16/2008

Were it not for the McClintons gaming the system by stoking the public airwaves, the "issue" would have died already. While the political pundits simply cannot get enough of the Obama "mistake" (Chris Matthews has actually stated that he cannot see how Obama can recover) genuine news seems to have been missed entirely.
Some of the stories we"ve missed this week: The revelation that the leaders of our government have been personally involved in war crimes, that the Congress is once again ready to vote on a 300 plus billion dollar Farm Bill (by no means the only example of huge pork barrel misdirection of public funds, but certainly the most egregious and indefensible), or that the director of HUD was not only compliant in the home mortgage crisis, but has been accused of fraud and corruption as well.
But what are these stories compared to the entertainment value of a political race and the daily handicapping by the Washington elite?
One only wonders what this administration and Congress will be up to when the General Election heats up and all out attentions are diverted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 04/16/2008

Of course, they are the Corporate Democrats, the DINO DLC founders, the NAFTA signers, the Bankruptcy Credit Card Bill supporters.....and they deserved this DLC Coronation and now, thanks to the next POTUS, Barack Obama - the Corporations may lose control of the Democratic Party.

Yes, you are right lastams,.,.the DLC lead the Congress...not the minority Dems whose votes are always outdone by the combination DINO and NEOCON majority in the Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/16/2008

Nobody knows when or if any thing will derail Obama"s campaign. This derailing attribute has been planted in the media"s consciousness by the Clinton Campaign and pundits are waiting for it to happen. First it was Rev. Wright, now its Bittergate" what will be next. Unwittingly, the media has become an instrument of the Clinton campaign in the seizing on what incident could be the thing that will derail the campaign. What is hard for us to get" is that, we could be embarking on a new kind of politics and/or we just can not use the old matrix to determine what will or won"t derail a campaign. But the Clinton Campaign and pundits still wait for the gotcha moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 04/16/2008

Was that BEFORE he stereotypically insulted them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 04/16/2008
photo

It was right before you were born.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 04/16/2008

Ha Ha

Very funny .......................NOT

nor a very intelligent response, either

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/16/2008

Hillary has made it appear as through blue collar workers were too stupid to get it on their own. She became an agitator. She became the ringleader at a fight edging on the crowd. She instigated a fight while Obama was trying to explain his poor choice of semantics. It is as through she is screaming over his explanation" yelling get him for saying this!. Don"t listen to him. Don"t be stupid. He has insulted you, and I hear to tell you that he has insulted you. Just in case you are too stupid to it! This feeds into her appearing divisive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 04/16/2008

Ok, you lost me from the very beginning..."Hillary has made it appear...".

She's just too phony to even ATTEMPT to make anything "APPEAR" simply because her disengenious tactics are very much visible... that is unless you are jumbled & befuddled like many of her supporters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/16/2008

Only a republican or McHillary supporter could possess enough willfull ignorance to not understand what Barack Obama was saying.

Keith Olberman showed a clip of a Fox News reporter trying to get a small town PA resident to say agree that what B.O. said was insulting, and instead, he said the B.O. was right and that he agreed with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 04/16/2008

As you said, "ONE".

We all know Keith is trying to nail her at every turn - just like Chris Matthews.

I can't even watch him anymore. His venom and bile is too painful to watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 04/16/2008

Oh I understand exactly what Obama was saying.

I also know he was "amused at the notion" that people misunderstood his remarks.

Anyone check the price of arugula at Whole Foods lately?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/16/2008

Fact: Hillary is outraising Obama among wealthy Americans, but Obama is outraising her among everyone else. Based on dollars, not rhetoric, it's hard to peg Obama as the elitist in this race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 04/16/2008

Well, he certainly has the "Elitist" Media and San Fran Lib types on his side.

ALL POLLS confirm that Hillary has "consistently" drawn the working class voters to her campaign.

You are just making up information to suit you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 04/16/2008

Dear RIGHT Leaner........when you code word "elitist" with the SFO and media.....you are a NEOCON.....I get it.....YOU HATE THE LEFT LEANERS.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 04/16/2008

"... she's consistently drawn the working class voters to her campaign."

Senator Clinton has drawn the unique "blue-collar" working class voters in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania, but not the mainstream middle-class. Senator Obama's grassroots campaign is comprised of Americans from all economic classes across the board. To the contrary, Senator Clinton's campaign is being supported primarily by women who cannot see beyond having a woman for a president, wealthy contributors, and "blue-collar" workers, many of whom would never vote for Senator Obama under any circumstances!.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 04/16/2008

And the wealthy American gravy train is going derail after next Tuesday when it finally sinks for them that McHillary has no real chance of winning the nomination, as she'll end up netting only a few more delegates in PA than Barack Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 04/16/2008

excellent article on realclearpolitics.com about the phony campaign money raising by obama. the man is clearly a total phony. i am sure you all agree


http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obamainside_N.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 04/16/2008

As opposed to the "populist" HRC whose major financing comes from such small town concerns as
PFIZER INC., AMERICA'S HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS PAC,
THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE,
AFLAC INCORPORATED POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE,
DUPONT GOOD GOVERNMENT FUND,
HARTFORD FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC ADVOCATES FUND,
BANK OF AMERICA CORPORATION FEDERAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE,
MICROSOFT CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE,
WAL-MART STORES INC.,
LOCKHEED MARTIN, and the TIME WARNER POLITICAL ACTION CMTE.
Just to name a few.
Perhaps Obama may garner support from actual movers and shakers but he doesn't have to share the covers with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/16/2008

Well said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 04/16/2008

Obama has received nearly $5000 from the firm that I work for, because they are Obama supporters. The question is did the CEO ask them all to make a donation? When you have donations from 1.3+ million people donating - and you have to report where you work, inevitably you're going to get people from the same company especially if it is a large corp. There is a lady on the Kos who is a registered lobbyist, she sent it a small donation not realizing her occupation would be an issue. HER CHECK WAS RETURNED, with a nice letter saying thank you but we do not accept money from lobbyist. I believe the donation was under $200.00! When he becomes POTUS he knows very well that his feet will be held to the fire EVERYDAY. He's not stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/16/2008

apparently he out raises clinton among lobbiest alsoObama has called his refusal to accept PAC and federal lobbyist money "a multimillion-dollar" sacrifice, but his opponents' numbers suggest otherwise. Clinton has raised about $2 million from lobbyists and PACs while McCain has taken in about $1.2 million, according to the center.

Obama points to his unprecedented success in raising small sums from tens of thousands of regular citizens. As of Feb. 29, he had raised 41% of his money in increments of $200 or less, compared with 26% for Clinton and 13% for McCain, according to an analysis by the non-partisan Campaign Finance Institute.

Yet Obama's 20 largest sources of money, grouped by employers, are executives from major corporations and law firms with a Washington lobbying presence " including Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Google, according to the center. Clinton's and McCain's top donors include executives from some of the same companies, such as Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 04/16/2008
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