David Brooks Praises ABC, Debate, Because He Lacks The Good Sense God Gave A Box Of Tulip Bulbs, Apparently


First Posted: 04-17-08 10:34 AM   |   Updated: 04-25-08 05:12 AM

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New York Times' columnist David Brooks appears to be one of the few people nonsensical enough to actually laud ABC's mix of jive-ass wankery and lack of conviction that was on display in last night's absurd debate. Why am I not surprised? If being out-of-touch were a clinical contagion, Brooks would file his columns from a lead-lined, underground vault at the Centers For Disease Control.

First, Democrats, and especially Obama supporters, are going to jump all over ABC for the choice of topics: too many gaffe questions, not enough policy questions.

And so they should! No Democrat I know has been wandering around in some sort of fugue, hoping that someone might finally answer that riveting, all-important question, "Does Reverend Jeremiah Wright love America?" Brooks is, perhaps, sidling up alongside a good point in invoking "Obama supporters" specifically. I felt last night's showing was the "Worst Debate Ever" because both candidates were treated poorly. When they trotted out that Pennsylvania voter to ask Hillary Clinton about Tuzla with the admonishment that she'd lost her vote, I did a full-body cringe! It was pointless melodrama deployed to cover up the moderator's own lack of cojones. Certainly, Obama's most earnest fans are all a-kvetch today, but they should a) understand that this is a good time for Obama to be taking the lion's share of the chin music, because it's a good thing to have a little bit of scar tissue when you face McCain, and b) think more broadly - last night's debate was bad for the discourse, and bad for all Democratic voters.

After that graf, however, Brooks loses sight of anything that even resembles having a lick of sense, and he strains hard to manufacture that pure product of the empty-headed intelligentsia: a bon-bon of non-thought dressed up in masturbatory intellectual contortions.

Behold this paragraph, and tremble:

We may not like it, but issues like Jeremiah Wright, flag lapels and the Tuzla airport will be important in the fall. Remember how George H.W. Bush toured flag factories to expose Michael Dukakis. It's legitimate to see how the candidates will respond to these sorts of symbolic issues.

You know what, David? I would love it - love it! - if by November, the most pressing issues facing the Republic were some preacher in Chicago I'd never heard of until this year, a trip some politician's wife took a decade ago, and the way we accessorize our lapels. That would be, like the Pope's speech yesterday, awesome. Because that would mean we'd no longer be at war in Iraq, no longer be facing a terrorist threat out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, no longer be in the midst of about ten separate economic crises, New Orleans would be fully rebuilt, and the New York Times wouldn't be falling into an ad revenue abyss. But somehow I think this is not going to be the case.

"Remember" how Bush 41 toured flag factories? Really? That's the example on which you are going to pin your argument? It was a moment of substance-free political high-camp. The only people that think that responses to "these sorts of symbolic issues" are "legitimate" are the preening narcissists who believe that being the 7659th reporter to ask Hillary Clinton about Tuzla is some sort of achievement.

Brooks goes on the assail Clinton and Obama - for three paragraphs! - for making "pledges" on taxes and the Iraq War. But it was Gibson and Stephanopoulos who insisted on pledges, not the candidates!

Both promised to not raise taxes on those making less than $200,000 or $250,000 a year. They both just emasculated their domestic programs. Returning the rich to their Clinton-era tax rates will yield, at best, $40 billion a year in revenue.

Really? Show your math, please!

Nobody knows what the situation in Iraq will be like. To pledge an automatic withdrawal is just insane. A mature politician would've been honest and said: I fully intend to withdraw, but I want to know what the reality is at that moment.

Oh, dear. Are we not adults? Can it not be said that every voter can appreciate the fact that in life, sometimes, circumstances change, and plans have to be altered? Does Brooks actually believe that we need to receive instruction on this matter? I don't need Clinton and Obama to reassure me that they'll not cling, unflinchingly, to plans if it's been demonstrated that an alternative course will achieve a better outcome, because they are running against John McCain. If I wanted a President who's pledged to continue out the merry march to certain doom, I'd vote for him.

Brooks concludes by asserting that the Democrats have "an electability problem" and that the issues raised last night will continue to impact Obama in the fall. "The superdelegates cannot have been comforted by his performance," he says. Well, the evidence so far indicates this is not the case. The matters that Obama needs to convince superdelegates on are the same today as they were last week. If the superdelegates are anything like me, last night's debate should have only produced a wellspring of sympathy for both candidates. That Brooks was comforted by the performance of ABC News last night only suggests that he's the one with a "crushing" credibility problem.


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- ebbasta I'm a Fan of ebbasta 5 fans permalink
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All of this silly stuff you keep flinging back and forth….

NONE of it will matter by November 4th….none of it will “stick” to Barack…you know why? With all of the prior douche bags….from Adlai Stevenson to Hubert Humphrey/George McGovern, Gary Hart, Mike Dukakis, Al Gore and even all the way up to John Kerry….those guys were truly, questionably and arguably, unquestionably and inarguably…..douche bags. Yes, they were douche bags. If I told you, “Hey, check out the Dems nominee, John Kerry, what an elitist out-of-touch douche bag…” and then you actually saw him, listened to him talk, watched him interact with others, there would be no doubt about it.

None of this bitter, guns, wright stuff is gonna stick b/c when people see him, talk to him, listen to him talk, listen to him think….see him interact with others…..it becomes abundantly clear that he is NOT in fact, an elitist, out-of-touch….he’s not an over-the-top black power, muslim prophet come to end the world…..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 04/18/2008

The debate proved once and for all that Obama though I wish he would, will not be elected in the general.
Obama wants to be a different type of politician but he isn't willing to play the game in order to change the game.
He is basically a salesman and is forgetting rule number one, the customer is always right.
If all it takes to get enough of the independents and repubs to sway to Obama, is for him to wear a flag pin, then wear the damn pin.
I get what you are doing, but others don't and isn't getting elected what we're trying to do here?

If Obama was selling a car, and the customer said I like bose stereo, shouldn't he give them the bose stereo rather than try to convince the customer that the bose isn't important to them. It obviously is important to them and they are the one doing the buying. He can't sell the car without them.
Close the deal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 04/18/2008
- VicksieDo I'm a Fan of VicksieDo 4 fans permalink
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Too late, if he wears it now it's pandering and flip-flopping. He just shouldn't answer those nonsense questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/18/2008
- fredamae I'm a Fan of fredamae 47 fans permalink

OK, He Must praise, after all it was he and his ILK that "ordered" the "robo-reporters" to follow the "script HE wrote?

Don't blame the messengers, ask them "why are you Not walking out in droves" from the lyin' MSM industry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 04/18/2008

Not Political Comment. Comment on Dumbass Usage:

Where Linkins says that "No Democrat I know has been wandering around in some sort of fugue," you get the truly comical mind picture of a group of people in Eighteenth garb, dancing elegantly while several poorly-dressed (yet politically knowledgeable) left-wingers shuffle aimlessly among the dancers, neither keeping time to the beat nor appreciating the music.

However, if they were intended "not to wander around in a fog", or perhaps yet "not to wander around in a funk", then they would be on the one hand, benighted, and on the other, in a bad mood.

You choose.

Sorry not to have much political to say about Brooks. It's all been said, it's mostly accurate, and it isn't fare for lunch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 04/18/2008

fugue

2. Psychiatry. a period during which a person suffers from loss of memory, often begins a new life, and, upon recovery, remembers nothing of the amnesic phase.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 04/19/2008
- mediamarv I'm a Fan of mediamarv 38 fans permalink
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... the sense that God gave a box of tulip bulbs...
My new favorite description of cluelessness.

Used to be "dumber than a box full of hammers."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 04/18/2008

For nearly eight years, every prediction, every point of view expressed by David Brooks has proven to be wrong.

With such a dismal track record, why would anyone value his opinion now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/18/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 75 fans permalink
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We don't. He just doesn't know that. Don't tell him - he seems fragile and I don't think he could handle it.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 04/18/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 164 fans permalink

Yes, he is so wrong and yet so completely full of himself. I guess he sees a time when someday he will be right about something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/18/2008
- Hollyse I'm a Fan of Hollyse 4 fans permalink

... Nobody knows what the situation in Iraq will be like. To pledge an automatic withdrawal is just insane. A mature politician-man would've been honest and said: I fully intend to withdraw, but I want to know what the reality is at that moment. ... My thoughts suddenly switched to the latest Maryland court case of WHAT IS CONSIDERED RAPE. Seems to me politicians, newscasters-journalists and rape cases may be a wave of the future. Laws should be established immediately so politicians, journalists- newscasters can be accused of raping the public whenever they are told to pull out mid stream. Consentual intercourse by politicians, newscasters-journalists and We the People should have the same court decision of rape when we know we've been in positions of being screwed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 04/18/2008

The whole country should be outraged, Democrats and Republicans alike. I expected better from Brooks, he was my favorite Republican analyst. This is not about Obama it's about finding answers to real issues - my God, Carter is meeting Hamas - how do they feel about this?! Clinton wants an "umbrella" protection for any U.S ally that is bombed in the MidEast, so that the U.S could declare war with several countries at once in the Mideast whenever we feel like it. Iraq will look like a child's play garden compared to this scenario - but there was NO followup! Will there be a draft? cause i don't know where the troops for this war is coming from.
I see a disaterous future looming within arms reach for our children, and here we are talking about Bosnia and flagpins. and whether Whats his face is patriotic - who cares?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 04/18/2008

I dunno, Mr. Linkins sounds like he's whistling past the graveyard. Methinks there's a big difference between the merits of an election campaign as seen by him and what the middle 1/3 voters who decide the outcome think. Just ask Presidents Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. And why is Linkins yelling so loud...if you think you're right, you adopt a reasonable tone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 04/18/2008

Except Gore (and Kerry, for that matter) actually won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 04/18/2008

Did Obama supporters REALLY think he would not be asked about bittergate and his pastor??????

I knew it was coming, HE knew it was coming, his camp knew it was coming,.....heck even HRC knew it was coming, just like Bosnia....

GROW UP. The fact that you all get so MAD when people point out his shortcomings or ask him hard questions is so DANGEROUS.

During the MSNBC debate, Brian Williams COMPLAINED that the candidates spent too long on heatlcare!!!! And then spent 15 minutes having HRC watch tapes of her self being "moody" and asking her to explain.

DID YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH T H A T DEBATE???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 04/18/2008
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While I find it repulsive either way, 15 minutes is a lot less time wasted than an hour on foolishness. Immediately followed up by, "Ok we have one minute for gas prices"... You should be offended, no matter who you support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 04/18/2008

You say the questions were appropriate? Well, am i the only one paying $3.35 for a gallon of gas? Am I the only one who is worried that my fellow Americans were sent to Iraq to be Murdered? that school programs have been cut, that the country is in a recession??? If i am not the only one worried about these issues then how come our focus is not on these issues?From what I have seen, the Patriotic people who wear the pin are the very ones who do not give a damm about the daily lives of Americans.As long as their families are A -OKAY they could care less. So when these so called Patriotic people strut around claiming how patriotic they are you better do not take their for it.ACTIONS ACTIONS, ACTIONS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 04/18/2008
- gwhizz I'm a Fan of gwhizz 20 fans permalink
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I would love nothing more that if in the fall, the 'biggest' issues we have to debate are flag pins and 10 year old field trips. But guess what. Regardless of what the *real* issues are ( the economy in the tank, $5 gallon gas, dead Americans in Iraq, war trumpets blasting out Iran) "we" the American citizens will hear more from the MSM about preachers and pins and 3am phone calls and who in what ad using stock footage is or isn't for or against someone than we will EVER hear about what really effects our lives.

Get used to it, this isn't over by a long shot.

If your candidate can't laugh at himself, or answer a question (however stupid) without pouting and sending winged monkeys out of his a** to crap all over the internet, he won't stand a snowball's chance in FL of winning anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/18/2008

I thought the ABC debate was fine...everything is on the table as far as questions to the candidates, they don't have a say as to what questions can be asked to them. Both of them are telling lies and they know it...George and Charlie asked pertinent, practical questions that deserve an answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/18/2008

Peibossman: Is this sarcasm, or are you seriously siding with the idiot Brooks? Z.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/18/2008
- rmreddicks I'm a Fan of rmreddicks 36 fans permalink
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"Peibossman" apparently sees himself as a boss. How many bosses have you known who aren't self-aggrandizing idiots? I have one or two out of many. I'd rather find a new job than deal with fools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/18/2008
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"George and Charlie asked pertinent, practical questions that deserve an answer"

I sorry...how is "Does the rev. Wright love America?" a "pertinent, practical question"????? How is a question about flag lapel pins a "pertinent, practical" question???? That "debate" was a sham!

Is the economy going to right itself because Obama wears a flag lapel pin? Where was Hillary's? Or George's? Or Charlie's? Is the Iraq war going to end because Rev. Wright loves/doesn't love America? Is the price of oil - directly tied to the country's falling currency worldwide - going to magically fix itself because Obama knew or didn't know William Ayers? Get serious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/18/2008
- CTmom13 I'm a Fan of CTmom13 9 fans permalink

Be sure to sign the moveon.org petition���..It was also mentioned on ABC"s Good Morning America

Maybe if there is enough backlash the news networks will think twice about the distractions issues in the GE

http://www.moveon.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 04/18/2008

I am a democrate and I DESPISE the moveon.org crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/18/2008

I don't think the moveon.org folks are any worse than the Scientology people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 04/18/2008
- SonnyBono I'm a Fan of SonnyBono 21 fans permalink

It's "Democrat" and you are most likely a DINO like Joe Lieberman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 04/18/2008

We should fight Moveon .org they are like Mafia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 04/18/2008

There's Brittany and Paris sliding out of cars showing their un-pantied lower cleavage and there's Presidential debates.
To ABC and Charlie and George it's all the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/18/2008

That was a very lame debate. What the media does not understand in these critical timesis that we as citizens are listening now. It is a shame that the media can be so one-sided and be open about it. What happened to the real "ISSUES"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 04/18/2008
- nunzia I'm a Fan of nunzia 31 fans permalink

Nothing new for this guy.
He's been supporting W for 7 years.
After 7 years of that b.s., you lose
any sense of reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 04/18/2008
- LBKN I'm a Fan of LBKN 2 fans permalink

add 20 years...
he's been a Repugnatcan apologist since birth...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 04/18/2008
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