Obama Criticizes Debate, Attacks Clinton For Being "In Her Element"

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First Posted: 04-17-08 02:55 PM   |   Updated: 04-25-08 05:12 AM

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RALEIGH, N.C. — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama dismissively talked about his debate with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and the line of questioning from ABC News' moderators, arguing that it focused on political trivia at the expense of the problems facing average voters.

At a rally in the May 6 primary state of North Carolina, Obama drew roars of approval Thursday when he mocked aspects of the presidential debate that had him on the defensive Wednesday night. He faced tough questions about his controversial pastor, his comments about bitter voters in small towns and his relationship with a 1960s radical.

Deadpanning, the Illinois senator said, "It does not get much more fun than these debates. They are inspiring events."

In criticism of his rival, he called the debate "the rollout of the Republican campaign against me in November" and said it represented textbook Washington politics that Clinton was very comfortable playing.

"They like stirring up controversy and they like playing gotcha games, getting us to attack each other," he said. "Senator Clinton looked in her element. She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. That's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit ... that's the lesson she learned when Republicans did it to her in the 1990s."

The Obama campaign also sought to capitalize on the debate, sending out a fundraising appeal titled, "Gotcha," and soliciting $25 donations.

"Last night I think we set a new record because it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people," Obama told the North Carolina crowd. "Forty-five minutes before we heard about health care, 45 minutes before we heard about Iraq, 45 minutes before we heard about jobs, 45 minutes before we heard about gas prices."

ABC News' Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos pointedly questioned Obama, and Clinton politely challenged her rival.

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"When you're running for the presidency, you've just got to kind of let it ..." Obama said, pretending to flick lint off his pants and jacket.

Another debate between the two candidates seems unlikely. Obama had agreed to a debate in North Carolina on Saturday, Clinton has agreed to a debate April 27 in Raleigh, sponsored and televised by CBS News. The two camps have not agreed on a date.

"I'll be honest with you. We've now had 21," Obama said of the debates. "It's not as if we don't know how to do these things. I could deliver Senator Clinton's lines. I'm sure she could deliver mine."

Later, taking a question from a fourth-grade boy who said he had been elected his class representative at school, Obama asked, "How many debates did you have to have?"

"None," the boy replied.

"None! That sounds good!" Obama said.

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- Gizmo1125 I'm a Fan of Gizmo1125 3 fans permalink

Obama is a Drama Queen and a bad one at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Thanks for your insightful comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 04/17/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

Nah - Senator Obama is our next President !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 04/17/2008
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I too, thank you, Gizmo, for your contribution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 04/17/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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There can be only one Drama" Queen " in this race and the spot was claimed by
Hillary at the beginning of her campaign. Thinking that she was the" only"
candidate was her problem from the start and now she is also the" Prima
Donna" of the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Oh yeah everyone



We gained another Super Delegate from OHIO

On the Obama Team!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 04/17/2008

Cool! That's THREE today!

Guess the debate didn't go as bad for Obama as some people think....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Im sorry, i misspoke (Like Hillary did he he)

He gained another Delegate from Ohio

Not a super

But it wouldnt surprise me if he recieves one tomorrow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

He will in in the fall because all of you democrats will back him against McCain

To do otherwise would be silly. I can see someone voting Independent, but voting for the total opposite party is just silly because you cant have your way

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

You would think it was silly wouldn't you, but apparently not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

It is silly

Why vote to stay in Iraq for 100 years when our candidates clearly want the opposite?

I care more about the troops than to vote for McSane

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 04/17/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

America gets what is plays for. If the country cares more about flag pins and pastors the people will get what they deserve. Actually, Im doing OK. I want a better world for my children. If the ones that are hurting the most, are going to hurt the rest of us, this will be one divided nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 04/17/2008
- MissDarla I'm a Fan of MissDarla 2 fans permalink

We deserve Obama! Have you seen the video on YouTube where his is flipping Hillary the Bird during a speech today? Isn't that Presidential of him? Can't wait to see what he does with Iran when he feels he's been unfairly treated. Grow up little boy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 04/17/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

Once again, please stop trying to make something out of nothing, MissDarla. You saw a man with a finger on the side of his face. Maybe you would go on national television and give someone the finger but don't project that onto Senator Obama, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 04/17/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 347 fans permalink
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Here you go Darla, no offense ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

Really, ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

opps, sorry, lol ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

dang ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 04/17/2008

MissDarla, both you and Mollye really need to get a life...looking at that picture from several angles, it's clear that he isn't flippin Hillary....

If you don't want to vote for Obama, that is your choice, and it's respected. But slandering someone is NOT acceptable. Take your trash elsewhere...it does not belong here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 04/18/2008
- Gizmo1125 I'm a Fan of Gizmo1125 3 fans permalink

When oh when will Obama just take responsibility for his own mistakes and hold himself responsible and stop trying to blame everyone else. If anyone is to blame besides Obama it is the media. By always trying to cover for him they have made him a weak candidate. If they had made him stand on his own two feet months ago, then maybe he would be a stronger candidate. His performance was pitiful .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 04/17/2008

His mistakes? He isn't the one that came up with the useless, lame old questions we've heard argued ad-nauseum. He isn't the one that wasted nearly an hour before we got to ANY of the issues Americans care about.

Be honest, were you REALLY concerned with his relationship with flag pins? Wouldn't you have rather heard a discussion on the economy, which may very well be headed for a DEPRESSION?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 04/17/2008

Just when I think I can get enthusiastic about Obama and not just accepting of the reality, he does something snarky. Last night he sent out another sexist dog whistle by bringing up the 1992 comment about tea and cookies. His campaign has been every bit as sexist as hers has been racist but he just a lot smoother at it. He brought up the comment as an example of being misunderstood, but he really brought it up to make sure people remembered it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

He was taking up for Hillary actually

He knew her words were distorted...Just like his were

Everyone is not as sneaky as your candidate

And you know what, it actually helped him because it shows how the media distorts things but its up to YOU to determine for yourself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

When i logged on last night to Sen. Obama's website, he had about 1,339,000 donors


Now he has like well over 1,352,000 donors

I think we will get to 1,500,000 before May 6

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 04/17/2008

I agree...The American people are sick of all this crap....and voting with our donations.

NOT THIS TIME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 04/17/2008

The billion dollar presidency.

Nothing to be proud of.

We should have fed the hungry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 04/17/2008

Maybe if we can get the right man in office we can slowly start getting the vast majority thinking that way....

One step at a time...Obama is the best hope for actually bringing about that kind of change. I'd sure rather feed children than blow them up in Iraq...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 04/17/2008

This election, as many have framed it , is also about lying.

Obama remarked that he never stated he would not wear a pin; only why he doesn't.

Video tape reveals otherwise.

Welcome to the big show young man.

This ain't gunna be an "opponentless" election as when he secured his senate seat.

The media will soon begin dissecting he and his wifes every word.

He can blow this stuff off is he chooses, but better at least start taking notes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/17/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

http://tinyurl.com/258pjl

someone just emailed me this.

Its kind of weird.

Is the daily mail like the Enquirer here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/17/2008

This is JUNK. Stop posting junk links here stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 04/17/2008

Yes, maybe worse than the National Enquirer. And anyway, what it says has little relevance. We should all be judged on ourselves, not our parents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 04/18/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Looks to be doing fine to me. After getting the shaft last night the public appears to be behind as much as before. It is remarkable really where we are. 12 months ago, it was supposed to be HRC all the way, and now, after Wright, Rezco, Bitter comments, here we are with BO almost sealing this thing up. What the hell happened to HRC?

unreal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/17/2008

Clinton wasn't wearing one, did you notice? When was the last time she did? He is running a popular/populist campaign -- what could be more patriotic than that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 04/17/2008
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If the fate of the nation comes down to silliness such as an accurate accounting of what a candidate has worn on what occasion, then we have already lost the fight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 04/17/2008

Gee, I guess all those yellow pantsuit posts here were serious. How about the importance of having thin ankles? Or smooth skin? All serious Presidential qualifications here at good old Huffington Post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 04/17/2008

Are you criticizing Sen. Obama for wearing a flag pin? He can't win, can he? I understand that the other day he was given a flag pin by a veteran. It would have been incredibly foolish of him to reject the pin. And it would also be foolish of him to be adamantly consistent on something so inconsequential. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - one of your famous essayists (sorry I forgot the name). "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." Dr. Johnson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 04/17/2008

Ralph Waldo Emerson...smiles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 04/17/2008

1.) We've been inured as a culture that this petty stuff is the "norm," and if we don't like it, we're just "wimps," "whiners," and (yes) "elitists." It's time to take American politics away from this. If HRC wants to get back at all the people that went after her and Bill (and revenge is in our nature, is it not?) then she should do so on her own dime. Not mine.

2.) I voted for Kerry because he wasn't Bush, but I didn't so so because I thought he would actually do anything for me. You know what? Obama might not either, but that's a risk I'm willing to take because I KNOW HRC isn't going to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 04/17/2008

Put the nine year old up against Mc Hillary..................she might win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

So is voting Repub if their candidate loses in the primary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 04/17/2008

I think Obama is just an ideal candidate. We better jump on this great opportunity, that will only happen once in a life time. Obama never stoops to Hillary's level no matter what. Abc tried to sabotage him, it seems they may have actually helped him (losers). Nothing these idiots do will stop Obama, because he is a bigger and much better person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 04/17/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Do you people look under your beds every night before you go to bed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

If last night that was ABC's attempt to sabatage Barack wow did that fail. must of been planned bu Mark Penn!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 04/17/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

On the contrary, I heard that Obama and ABC plotted this whole thing out so he wouldn't HAVE to address any issues and it would cause an uproar which would further obscure what is important in this debate.

He's smarter than I gave him credit for!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 04/17/2008

Yeah right - when you don't like what your oponent says, you go before your minions to belittle her and top it off by giving her the finger - watch the video from today. Yes, he's a real classy guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 04/17/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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oh please no one sees that but the desperate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 04/18/2008
- yukoner1 I'm a Fan of yukoner1 4 fans permalink

Doesn't your name just say it all!? If I missed the sarcasm you have my deepest apology.
Steve

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 04/17/2008

If only this kind of BS only happened once in a lifetime. Obama never takes responsibilitiy for his failures or mistakes. Last night was a collosal failure for him and he blames it on the questions and Hillary's competence in a debate forum instead of admitting he can'd debate well. At least she admitted she wasn't the orator he is. Blaming others for your own shortcomings is no demonstration of leadership. EVERY single time he has taken a hit, he has blamed it on somebody or something else.

If he doesn't like how politics works, perhaps he should seek employment in a field he does like. Seems silly to me to be a politician and not like politics. Seems even sillier to run for President with that attitude. Oh yeah, the kid is going to change the entire system because it's not good enough for us. Why? Because he's better than all of us. Despite the fact that he hasn't accomplished anything in in his entire life even given the advantages of private and Ivy League schools, he's going to change the entire political system to suit himself and a bunch of people who never voted in an election before.

For being the media darling, hailed as practically the second coming, and rolling in campaign contributions, why isn't he much further ahead than she is? Go on Obamabots--blame someone or something, but not St. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Totally agree here. I mean it should be a total lock requirement that any presidental candidate be subjected to tabloid style questioning. I mean this is what our country is built on right. Where would our nation be without our tabloids. Lets not worry about issues and lets get angry at someone who gets angry having to deal with stupidity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 04/17/2008
- Rose52 I'm a Fan of Rose52 6 fans permalink

My my, how sour the grapes are today. Why so angry? Is it because last night wasn't a colossal failure for him? And I suppose you think things in Washington should stay the same huh? Do you like the politics in Washington? And if he wants to change things to make them better for a "bunch of people who never voted in an election before" I say that's a good thing because they are the future and you are way past your prime.
Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 04/17/2008

Looks like the Obama sensors are on duty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

they let your comments through. you are an asset to Obama. Your insulting comments motivate Obama contributions.

Obamabots, or Obamatons or whatever my nickname is thanks you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 04/17/2008
- Gizmo1125 I'm a Fan of Gizmo1125 3 fans permalink

You must really believe that Obama can buy the Presidency. Now that is really sad. Instead of continuing to contribute to his campaign why not give it to the homeless in this country it will go to a better use than trying to buy Obama's Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/17/2008
- MaBJ I'm a Fan of MaBJ permalink

Nah. We're just getting a little payback for the months and months and months that Hillary Clinton has been pounded, bashed, spit on, dissed, lied about and minimized.

Of course, a lot of us tried to tell you Obama wasn't ready for prime time. From last night's debate, it seems that he still isn't.

Why does he get so defensive and angry and hostile and petulant when he can't answer tough questions put to him by journalists? Cuz that's how he looked last night...and today. He can pretend he "brushed it off", but the truth is, he didn't. It enrages him when he is challenged. Reminds me of George W. Bush.

If the Hillary haters here at HuffPost and elsewhere had stood up for her when she was being crucified by MSM and Obama people, we might have some sympathy. We don't. Barack Obama is not electable. And I don't think you're going to get the WH (if, in fact, he is the nominee) without all of us "bitter" people who "cling" to our guns and our religion. It's.that.simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 04/17/2008

"I was only 8 years old"

Nobody asked him what he thought back then.

Wasn't he 8 when King was slain? Unlikely he'd be attending a fundraiser at James Earl Ray's home.

Liberals won't be the only voters in november.

Brush those shoulders carefully young man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 04/17/2008

Barry screws up and it's the fault of ABC? Perhaps his teleprompter malfunctioned!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

I know he screwed up so bad and still appears to be the favorite. Now that is screwing up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 04/17/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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No, but I think that your GOP talking points memo must have been delayed tonight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 04/17/2008
- CLEDUC I'm a Fan of CLEDUC 2 fans permalink

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1731655,00.html
"Obama's memoir dripped with contempt for modern gotcha politics, for a campaign culture obsessed with substantively irrelevant but supposedly symbolic gaffes like John Kerry ordering Swiss cheese or Al Gore sighing or George H.W. Bush checking his watch or Michael Dukakis looking dorky in a tank. "What's troubling is the gap between the magnitude of our challenges and the smallness of our politics—the ease with which we are distracted by the petty and trivial," he wrote. " Time Magazine today reviewing what Obama said a few years ago.

Obama has been criticizing and making light of gotcha politics for years. The debate last night was a prime example of what he has criticized Washington politics for long before last night.

Obama has addressed the ‘flag pin’ issue multiple times. If the media had done a good job of providing the public with his answers, it probably wouldn’t be an issue. John McCain, Hillary Clinton and the two ABC moderators were not wearing a flag pin yesterday as they often don’t. So how is it paramount that we waste time discussing Obama wearing a flag pin with all the other serious issues America is facing? Can the Clinonites honestly say they can’t acknowledge that he has a point about gotcha politics?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 04/17/2008

This country's families are losing their homes-----and we have journalists concerned about a flag pin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 04/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

But they dont hear you......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 04/17/2008

I was thinking something similar Findingthetruth, certainly in contrast to flag pins. Here, here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 04/17/2008

Of course. But it speaks volumes about his character.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 04/17/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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You know something about character?
For the life of me, I see nothing to suggest it, in your posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 04/17/2008

Every reasonable news source says Barry blew it. Read much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Ya they see he performed poorly, but the people think he won. go figure, we have the american public thinking for themselves and ignoring the MSM and attack dog politicians.

Could life be any better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 04/17/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

Every republican owned pupet news source, that thinks america isn't pissed off, blew it. Read who wrote the stories and own the media much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/17/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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What are your reasonable news sources apart from Rush and the day I let
someone else sitting behind a desk and computer decide things for me,
I hope my family puts me out to pasture, pronto.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 04/17/2008

It is good that Obama has helped put the debate in a correct framework: the 50 minutes on trivializing the campaign which in effect trivializes the importance of the issues which Americans are facing.

An example: the human cost of the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The RAND Corporation has just released a study on the health of veterans returning from both countries. It found that:

18.5% suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or depression -- 300,000 returning servicepeople
19.5% receive a traumatic brain injury (TBI) while on deployment -- 320,000 " "
50% of those who so suffer seek treatment and half of those receive "minimally adequate care"
$268,900 and $408,520 per case per year for moderate and severe TBI, respectively
$27,260 to $32,760 per case of mild TBI per year
$4.0 to $6.2 billion for the total societal cost of those suffering from PTSD and major depression

Compare that to a discussion on lapel pins. ABC should be deeply humbled by their disservice to the American people.

http://rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9336/index1.html

Thanks to Obama for bringing the issues back again !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 04/17/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Come on Andrew, don't you know a good American president has to stand there and take stupid questions. IT IS A REQUIREMENT, How else are us sheep supposed to make a competent decision. By hearing the candidates talk about policy, please, silence you Canadian hoser!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 04/17/2008

grinning, take off, eh !

But on a more serious note, I really feel this is a pivotal period not just in American history but in world history. For me there is a sense of profound portents that Obama exists at this moment in time because his approach is one of accountability and transparency which is the foundation of well-functioning democracy which allows corporate interests to be exposed and reigned in within a capitalist economy. It seems the antithesis of the Bush Administration and in a similar way, the Clinton campaign. It has been decades since I have been this hopeful for such a change in the world of politics; Gorbachev was the last person who so inspired me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 04/17/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

AMEN

they should be humbled but they won't be.

They should also be humbled after breaking the story about the idiot king's admission of knowledge and approval of torture talks between the big boys (and our girl Condi) they haven't followed up on it.

Now THAT is something I would like to see being asked about.
And When/What are we going to do about the criminals in Washington.
Israel policies would be good, Peace Process.
How about China and how they will own us shortly if we don't shape up?

That's just a few tidbits that I as a voter think are important.

That being said Why blame Clinton for the pathetic debate questions?

Also, the fact is most of the debates have been pretty lousy and there were a couple that appeared to be VERY much designed to pull Clinton apart. The one with Russert playing a couple of very pathetic gotcha tricks about Bill comes toi mind, which I have to say, she did look him in the eye and tell him what's what. Russert looked just as ridiculous at that debate as these two did.

I didn't see much outrage though.
Well, outrage over Russert I mean.
There was plenty of other outrage.
LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 04/17/2008

Ohmercy, well-put as well I think. It was not, though, that I was trying to blame Clinton for this. My comment on Obama bringing this back to issues was more outside of the debate...the post-debate setting (in conjunction with the Raleigh townhall meeting). Should Clinton decide to continue with the same line and not focus upon such issues as we have mentioned which are of concern to Americans of any political hue, then that will be an issue then. I was simply grateful that Obama juxtaposed the types of questions against real issues in a humourous way which allowed the primaries to move forward in a potentially meaningful way. Cheers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 04/17/2008
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