Hillary Hammers China Trade, Bill Took $1.25 Mil From Chinese Businesses

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First Posted: 04-18-08 10:10 AM   |   Updated: 04-26-08 05:12 AM

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Throughout the campaign, but more so recently, Sen. Hillary Clinton has tried to tap into voter resentment over domestic job loss by leveling heavy criticism at China.

"Right here, over 200 Hoosiers built parts that guided our military's smart bombs to their targets. They were good jobs, but now they have gone to China," she says in an advertisement airing this week in Indiana. "George Bush could have stopped it. As your president I will fight to keep good jobs here, and to turn this economy around."

But while the spot may reflect legitimate skepticism of past trade agreements, the issue of China is touchy terrain for Clinton to tread on. As observers note, Clinton's viewpoints with respect to China have 'evolved' from her time as first lady, when she occasionally touted the benefits of trade with the emerging Asian market. She still was skeptical back then, they say, just less so.

Moreover, her recent remarks put her at odds with the position of her husband, whose philosophical and financial ties to the issue of trade with China are immense.

Indeed, since leaving the White House, the former president, according to a review of his records, has earned $1.25 million for six speaking engagements from Chinese businesses and forums. Three of these events were hosted by a Hong Kong-based private investment firm, one by a private real estate company, another by a spirits manufacturer, and another by a group that facilitates business-leader dialogue. On several occasions, according to the Clinton Foundation website, Bill Clinton touted the benefits of an open economic relationship between American and China.

"Consider the global economy," Bill Clinton told China CLSA Ltc., the investment firm, in 2002. "I think the protesters against globalization are dead wrong when they say the global economy is the cause of the world's problems... The global economy has lifted more people out of poverty in the last 20 years than at any time in history."

Comments such as these carry a more forgiving tone than the rhetoric coming from Senator Clinton, who, on the campaign trail, has called for the boycott of the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games in Beijing and has decried the "slow erosion of our own economic sovereignty" to China.

On Thursday, an official with the Clinton campaign addressed the disparity, arguing that - much like the former president's support for the Colombia Free Trade Agreement, which his wife opposes - this was a matter of an intra-marriage dispute.

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"You know Senator Clinton and President Clinton do not have the same views when it comes to trade. They have very similar views on a lot of issues," Howard Wolfson told reporters. "And on some issues they have different views and trade is one of them. They obviously agree on the difficult in confronting one's banker. But Senator Clinton does go farther and says that some the underlying deals have flaws that need to be addressed. I can't speak to President Clinton on that issue."

Nevertheless, there are political observers who see more grounds for concern, noting that Bill Clinton is the adviser closest to Hillary's ear.

"There is a very worrying pattern of former President Clinton being an unrepentant and often well paid promoter of the trade policies he pushed into place as president that are, according to campaign statements, [now opposed] by his closest political confidant, Sen. Clinton," said Lori Wallach, director of Global Trade Watch at Public Citizen.

Beyond politics, there is some other notable nuance to the issue. For starters, Senator Clinton didn't always express alarm over the impact that open Chinese markets would have on the American worker. Of course, support for free trade was easier when the prospect of job losses weren't so severe. Sen. Barack Obama, too, expressed conditioned support for trade with China in the past. And Clinton's current stance - to "ensure that we can take retaliatory action against China and other non-market economies when they subsidize their domestic industries" - shows an evolution in line with political realities.

However, observers note, it is important to remember that some of what Senator Clinton now rails against are economic afflictions traced partly to the policies of her husband. During the Clinton years, the president signed the deal that created the World Trade Organization, opened it up to China, and gave the country permanent "most favored nation" status.

"What Clinton did was just open this up without getting anything for American workers and the average American in return," said Jeff Faux, the founding president of the Economic Policy Institute, and an author of two critical books on Clinton's economic policy. "And it was largely driven by, number one, the multi-nationals that wanted access to China's labor, and also by Wall Street."

Not everyone sees it in such absolutes. Robert Shapiro, author of "Futurecast" and undersecretary of commerce in the Clinton administration, argues that there is a "powerful" but "indirect" affect that the opening up of China's economy has had on manufacturing jobs in America.

"The Clinton administration has played a significant role in the increased economic development in China. The greatest role was played by the Chinese government, but the United States and Bill Clinton led the creation of the WTO," he said. "So, look, Bill Clinton has probably played a larger role in the unfolding of globalization than any single individual. Having said that, the real role is played by markets. The loss of US manufacturing jobs, the offshore outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing has been going on for thirty years."

What these two agree on is that, should Sen. Clinton win the White House, she will have, as her most trusted and closest adviser, a husband whose commitment to free trade is devout. The Clinton campaign has said this is a minor and ultimate irrelevant difference - the senator, they argue, is her own independent actor on every issue, including trade. But others have their eyebrows raised.

"It begs the question," said Wallach, "of how a future President Clinton would be influenced in her thinking by her husband, whose post-presidential activities show his zeal for policies his wife is campaigning against."

Throughout the campaign, but more so recently, Sen. Hillary Clinton has tried to tap into voter resentment over domestic job loss by leveling heavy criticism at China. "Right here, over 200 Hoosiers ...
Throughout the campaign, but more so recently, Sen. Hillary Clinton has tried to tap into voter resentment over domestic job loss by leveling heavy criticism at China. "Right here, over 200 Hoosiers ...
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- bronceye I'm a Fan of bronceye 28 fans permalink

Don't forget that she was a new era Marco Polo, laying out the first trade routes with China, on the Wal Mart Board. She has a huge advantage in this race. The "Family" can pursue any and every financial endeavor while she is afforded the whimsy of each and every poll simply by saying that she is against or for whatever the issue, while her friends and family garner the wealth. Grass is greener on both sides of the fence. It's ludicrous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 04/19/2008
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I remember someone saying "We can choose who we associate with but we can't choose our family." I am shocked that she has gotten away with not addressing Penn and Bill. Both of which are overdue. Relationship with Columbia and Communist China.

Let's see: 300,000 in Penn pocket and 2 Mil (800+1.3) in the Clinton's.

Dang ... If we had been a poor smuck or Obama that HRC person would be jumping up and down on our heads screaming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 04/19/2008

Do a google search on her brothers Hugh and Tony, seems they're "shady" too...got caught taking money from people Bill pardoned...better yet do a search on the Clinton pardons and you'll see not only her brothers but a member of her current campaign staff was involved in promoting pardons for criminals. Fine upstanding folks that they think they are, the Clintons actually have alot to answer for...that is if anyone would ask them (how about the fraud case they're currently defending themselves against?) guess to the msm these are non issues compared to a lapel pin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 04/19/2008

Since when is Clinton hypocrisy news?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 04/19/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

She is so FAKE. Thats why she WONT win against McCain. She doesnt know where she stands she is wishy washy and she panders to the point of absurdity. At the debate she wanted to launch a massive attack against Iran if Iran attacked Isarel. She sounds exactly like McCain and Liebeman.. Voting for the war in Iraq has not taught her anything. I thought she was the Foreign Policy expert who criticize Obama for saying that he was would take out Al Queada if he had actionable intelligence but here she is saying she will launch a massive attack against Iran. She said in NH that she finally found her voice but even that was a lie she does NOT know who she is. Then we had the bittergate where she ends up bieng the one who was condecending and patronizing to small town voters since she didnt think they were smart enough to figure out what Obama was saying. Apparently they are not smart enough to fingure out what was offensive about Obama's statement. Then she became a gun lover and acted like hunting was something she engaged in for sport. Once again a fake pandering suck up then she wonders why she loses creidibility.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 04/19/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 254 fans permalink
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"Don't Let Me Get Me" by Pink should be Hillary's campaign song.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 04/18/2008

The Clintons facing Fraud charges, hearing in a week and the media is not covering it.

The first lawsuit to haul a President and a Senator into Court for defrauding the Senator's largest donor as part of a conspiracy to illegally win and keep a US Senate seat will begin discovery in May, 2008 as it proceeds to trial as confirmed by the California Supreme Court.

The discovery will expose an ongoing cover-up of the campaign finance crimes and the obstructions of justice directed by Hillary Clinton with the help of Bill Clinton and former DNC Chair Ed Rendell. The cover-up rivals Watergate in its corruption of each branch of government and the media.



Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings
04/25/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012

You can go to this page for La Superior Court and type the case number: BC304174

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 04/18/2008
- Lib2daBone I'm a Fan of Lib2daBone 3 fans permalink

STOP IT. .. STOP IT.... STOP IT..... Bill Clinton Gave the Chinese our High-Powered computer technology and then he fucked the American workers who invented it.! Fuck You, Fuck You, Fuck You Bill Clinton ...I must say. Bill Clinton suckered us into NAFTA..... That giant SUCKING sound is jobs leaving the country. Oh, never mind... you Morons don't get it......Ross Perot was all wrong.. he didnt know what he was talking about. Americans dont need jobs. We can Manufacture everything in China and ship it back to the US and you dumb shits in the US will buy any crap we send you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 04/18/2008

Wow! Bill is really raking the money from everywhere- comminuist China !!!!!!. What kind of secrets is he giving away in exchange for payola, better yet WHAT IS HE PROMISING IN EXCHANGE IF HILLARY WINS THE PRESIDENCY. It's scary, the Clintons are not only dishonest but big LIARS. Obama08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/18/2008
- mesuki I'm a Fan of mesuki 11 fans permalink

How this woman is still campaigning is amazing to me. Hillary has the balls to be out there telling people one thing , while her husband is involved in doing the oposite. If that doesn't prove deceit,I don't know what does........do people really think that if Hillary became president that Bill will not have any influence on her decisions.....Wake up America and get rid of this trainwreck of a woman before it's too late!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/18/2008

Who is Bill accountable to?

He is able to lobby and have influence around the world and in our government with no accountability.

Why isn’t he a registered lobbyist?

I am not sure why this isn’t being talked about on the MSM. Not even Keith is touching this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 04/18/2008

Hillary's TV Ad...MUST READ EVERYONE!

In 1995, Beijing San Huan New Material High-Tech Inc. and China National Non-Ferrous Metals Import & Export Corporation partnered with investment firm the Sextant Group Inc. to acquire Magnequench. The sale required approval from the Committee on Foreign Investments in the U.S. That committee is chaired by the Secretary of the Treasury. It was approved by the committee even though it was known that China National Non-Ferrous Metals is run under the State Council, an arm of the Chinese government. It was also known that San Huan New Materials was associated with the Chinese government and were engaged in illegal practices that harmed domestic industry.

The Clinton Whitehouse had one more chance in 1999 to stop the move when the Anderson, Indiana plant shut down and started shipping the equipment to China. Company officials argued with the government that the transfer of the equipment could help China’s ability to enrich Uranium for nuclear weapons.

Magnequench bought UNIMAG which was located in Valparaiso, IN in October of 2000. By 2001 they had announced plans to shut it down and move the operations to China. The Clinton Whitehouse again approved the sale of UNIMAG to the Chinese managed Magnequench.

Can we really trust a Clinton to not let our jobs and national security go overseas?

I live in Valparaiso IN and I know the truth. My answer is NO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/18/2008

I find it curious that the Clintons didn't use the closure of the Anderson, Indiana plant in 1999 to illustrate the impact on local workers when jobs are shipped overseas.

Oh, right, that was in the peace and prosperity era, right? Not so prosperous for those workers in Anderson that lost their jobs in 1999.

The truth on this needs to be told, especially since Clinton is now using the closure of the Valparaiso plant in her new TV ad that runs in Indiana. Just makes me sick!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/18/2008
- Paladine I'm a Fan of Paladine 4 fans permalink
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Isn't that convienient! There is a Clinton on BOTH sides of MANY issues!

Colombian Trade
NAFTA
China trade
Kazakhstan mining deal with the dictator and Canadian who ponied up the bucks (someone should ask Bill about HIS associations!)

Bill seems to be going around taking money from Foreign governments while SUPPORTING their trade positions.

It might be a little less suspious if he actually DISAGREED. And I don't buy it's just speeches..­.remember.­..Hillary SAID "Speeches don't put food on the table" ...she'd know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 04/18/2008
- moda31 I'm a Fan of moda31 10 fans permalink

speaking out of both sides of their mouths...shocking. but hillary says she and bill have different opinions on stuff, so umm it must not matter that so many of the things she disagrees with help line bill's pockets. clearly they only agree on the positive stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 04/18/2008

Call Bill Clinton what you want and try to paint Hillary as his co-sponsor but in reality it took a Former President to offset the trade balance with China (speaking fees) and in the process Bill acted as a diplomat bringing the hearts and minds of the Chinese to the table. I thought we lived in a democracy and a capitalist society where we are all free to make as much money as we can. I don't think Bill should be expected to speak for free. The current president will be paid NOT to speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 04/18/2008
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I don't bemoan the Clinton's for making money...good for them, hope they are happy. What I deplore is a woman who takes Obama to task for supposedly talking to a foreign government about his position on NAFTA (later proved it was actually her campaign that said the now famous, grain of salt phrase) and yet when confronted with the fact that her family has benefitted greatly from foreign governments for her husbands lobbying efforts over trade that she supposedly opposes it somehow becomes a non-issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/18/2008
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they share a joint bank account - YOU sound like you may be a relative of theirs -

don't want to hold her accountable for him - he's going to be in the same white house.

you can't have it both ways, she takes credit for his administration - she is married to the philanderer -

if you want to hold Obama accountable for Wright who doesn't live with Obama or Ayers, who is a professor and committed crimes when Obama was 8 - then, all of this argument is horseshit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 04/18/2008
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she takes money by being married to him.

she sleeps in the same bed

you hold Obama accountable for Wright and Ayers - this is called having a double standard.

It's okay for her pockets to have foreign money that convert into jobs that Americans have lost to Free Trade Countries, Canada, Colombia, China - a pattern here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 04/18/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 301 fans permalink
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Sorry, bill told supporters, the country would "get two for the price of one"
What a shame workers in Pennsylvania are probably not aware of all this. This is when I wish Obama would speak up. He doesn't want to go negative. But, issues like this are not negative, they are facts that every worker needs to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 04/18/2008
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I agree, nothing new to find out that they have an extra million from the Chinese... I mean, Colombia and Canada, next we'll find out that Mexico gave them money as well - wake up people - they've taken money from all these Free Trade countries and now you have no jobs.

She's a back-stabbing two faced DINO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/18/2008
- MichelleB I'm a Fan of MichelleB 7 fans permalink

Hillary insults the Chinese, claims to have a strong stand against their trade policy. Yet, she uses the same "evil" communist China money to financing her presidential campaign. Where do you think that $5 million which she loaned her campaign come from? The Clintons are unethical, and they underestimate the intelligence of average Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 04/18/2008

Where do you think it came from? And who do you think is financing the war in Iraq? Bush has mortgaged America to the "evil" Chinese. They are bankrolling our very existence and one of these days in the not so distant future, they will call in the note and put us all to work in sweat shops around the country. Unemployment will drop, but we will be working 12 hour days 6 days a week. At least it will keep illegal immigration very low because they will be making more money in Mexico. The Clintons made over $100 million in the last 6 years and have paid $35 million in taxes. I am sure the money Hillary loaned the campaign came from Hillary and not from China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 04/18/2008
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yeah and she can go borrow money from them to finance the Iran strike she wants to launch. more blood shed to add to her resume. Everyday another soldier dies, more blood on her hands, and on all those who support this saber rattling gun-toting duckhunting warmonger DINO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 04/18/2008

Bagman and Rob'em at it again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 04/18/2008
- CCverve I'm a Fan of CCverve 6 fans permalink

"The Clinton administration has played a significant role in the increased economic development in China. The greatest role was played by the Chinese government, but the United States and Bill Clinton led the creation of the WTO," he said. "So, look, Bill Clinton has probably played a larger role in the unfolding of globalization than any single individual. Having said that, the real role is played by markets. The loss of US manufacturing jobs, the offshore outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing has been going on for thirty years"

and the "speaking engagements" fees are merely the payback for being the LARGEST bamboozler of the American Public in favor for corporate interest for the past 30 years...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 04/18/2008

Does Trickle down economics, Read my lips "no new taxes", I am a uniter not a divider, ring any bells? The party of fiscal responsibility? I am laughing all the way to the unemployment line. The biggest bamboozler of the American public is the Repubelican party. 70% of the national debt was accrued under Reagan, Bush I and Bush II and that includes all the presidents since Washington. The current administration is run by corporations as a corporation. You can't blame Bill for everything but you can blame him for the peace and prosperity we experienced during his 8 years in the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 04/18/2008
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Thank god for that! WIthout China's prosperity no-one would be buying our bonds...but thankfully the Chinese have offered us a China Express card for this war and everything else....now, how exactly we pay it back is for our kids to figure out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 04/18/2008
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