Debate Analysis: ABC Asked Most Scandal Questions, Obama Was Clear Target

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First Posted: 04-20-08 02:00 PM   |   Updated: 04-28-08 05:12 AM

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The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared.

While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minority (mostly Clinton supporters) was unmoved. Where was the media outrage when Hillary was being grilled in past debates? She got it "much much tougher" than Obama did from ABC, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson charged.

This debate over debates had me curious. Was ABC's debate really in a lowly class of its own? Or were Obama backers (inside the press and out) just being overly-sensitive? So I went through each of the four one-on-one contests between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, starting with CNN's debate way back on January 31, and cataloged every question, classifying them as follows:

  • Policy and expertise: In this category, I put any questions about a candidate's policy preferences or legislative record, as well as questions about a candidate's experience ("Neither one of you have ever run a business, so why should either of you be elected to be CEO of the country?").
  • Non-policy questions: Questions focused on politics, including electability and the role of superdelegates, as well as those about campaign management, such as releasing tax records or accepting public financing.
  • Scandal questions: Questions about hot-button, non-policy issues like Jeremiah Wright or Clinton's Bosnia trip. (Note: this category does not include follow-up questions on these issues given to the opposing candidate; ie. Clinton being asked about Wright, or Obama being asked about Bosnia.)
  • This is obviously not a scientific process. I did not factor in the tone of the policy questions, which were often framed as critiques of the candidates and their views (although I found relative parity between Clinton and Obama in this respect). Moreover, for the purposes of this analysis, I'm not taking a position on whether any of the scandal questions were fair or legitimate lines of inquiry.

    That said, I found the results of applying this method surprising. Here are the notable takeaways:

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    1) ABC's debate was in a class of its own, with more scandal and non-policy questions than any other. ABC asked the most scandal questions, and both ABC and NBC devoted only half of their questions to policy issues. The CNN debates were dramatically more policy-focused. Here's a breakdown:

    Policy   Non-Policy   Scandal 
    CNN (1/31)    31 3 1
    CNN (2/21)    23 5 2
    NBC 24 17 5
    ABC 32 14 13


    2) Barack Obama has received the overwhelming majority of scandal questions over the course of the four debates, by a margin of 17 to 4. Obama has fielded questions about his "bitter" remarks, his connections to 60s-era radical William Ayers, two questions about flag lapels, two questions about his alleged plagiarism of speeches, three questions on Louis Farrakhan, and eight about Jeremiah Wright.

    Clinton has received only four such questions -- two about her Bosnia trip, one about a photo of Obama in African garb that was linked to her campaign without evidence by the Drudge Report, and one over-the-top inquiry about Bill Clinton ("If your campaign can't control the former president now, what will it be like when you're in the White House?").

    3) Networks 'balanced' scandal questions to Obama by repeatedly asking Clinton about Obama's electability/readiness. In three of the four debates, moderators followed scandal questions to Obama by asking Clinton whether she doubts Obama's electability or experience.

    CNN (2/21): "Are you saying that your opponent is all hat and no cattle? ... Are you saying that Senator Obama is not ready and not qualified to be commander in chief?"

    NBC: "Is your contention in this latest speech that America would somehow be taking a chance on Senator Obama as commander-in-chief?"

    ABC: "[A] simple yes-or-no question: Do you think Senator Obama can beat John McCain or not?"

    Of course, such questions are politically sensitive for Clinton; however they are hardly comparable in degree to scandal questions Obama received. In each case, they essentially provided Clinton an opportunity to expound on why she believes she is better suited to be the Democratic nominee.

    4) The debate famously mocked by Saturday Night Live was actually very favorable to Clinton. In the SNL rendition, CNN's February debate was a mix of aggressive, biting questions to Hillary Clinton and softballs to Barack Obama. In fact, the candidates received identical or virtually identical questions about Cuba policy, immigration, bilingualism, the economy, Iraq, and earmarks. On the other hand, Obama was called out on an apparent shift over Cuba ("[T]hat's different from your position back in 2003. You called U.S. policy toward Cuba a miserable failure, and you supported normalizing relations. So you've backtracked now..."), Clinton was offered multiple questions on Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief, and Obama was pressed to explain the plagiarism allegations.

    Clinton actually had it much rougher at CNN's earlier one-on-one debate in Hollywood. That was the only debate of the four where Clinton was asked a scandal question while Obama was not. Moreover, Clinton faced three questions on her initial support for the Iraq war ("Why can't you just say right now that that vote was a mistake?"), one question about Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama, and another on the perception of a Bush-Clinton dynasty ("How can you be an agent of change when we have had the same two families in the White House for the last 30 years?").

    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
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    - plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

    Oh my goodness Senator Obama! Go and wash your right hand, as you never know where her hand has been! Psst. . . just don't screw US, when your president!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 04/21/2008

    How can Obama be in touch when the echo chamber he resides in just tells him what he wants to hear? Doesn't anybody have the integrity to tell how bad he is in one on one debates? How narrow his base is? No one is going to be more surprised than him when he doesn't win.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 04/21/2008
    - LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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    So in these four debates: CNN 1/31 asked a total of 35 questions, with 31 on policy. CNN 2/21 asked a total of 30 questions with 23 on policy. NBC asked a total of 46 questions with 24 on policy, and then there's ABC with a total of 59 questions with 32 on policy issues. So not only did ABC ask the most questions of each debate covering much more territory, but they also asked the MOST policy questions of all these debates. So what's the problem. It seems to me that they were the most efficient in their debate format and had the most viewers, 10 Million people. Seems like a win to me.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 04/21/2008

    Are u educated/ I ghuess you're not cos If you are, u would know that performance is appraised analytically. There is a word called EFFICIENCY,

    What percentage of your time was spent on policy questions versus what percentage of other news company's time was spent on policy questions?

    Please take it easy wit urself, u r either a clinton Supporter or u work with ABC.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 04/21/2008
    - iLogos I'm a Fan of iLogos 6 fans permalink

    It doesn't help anyones cause when you insist on writing in 1337 speak... that said you are correct, ABC did not use its time efficiently. Even if they some how felt that the voters REALLY wanted to see the result of "gotcha" politics, they could have balanced out the questions and completely avoided the ones which had been asked and answered in previous debates or through official statements from the candidates.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 04/21/2008

    Which candidate has displayed no conscience in this nomination process?

    Can u believe in someone with zero credibility and zero conscience?

    Can u let somebody who exhibits desperation run your life?

    Make a clear and rational choice between all 3 available nominees now! Remember u don't get another choice for 4 years.

    PLEASE DO NOT VOTE RACE OR GENDER!!!!!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 04/21/2008
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    I totally understand where you're coming from and I definitely agree that race and gender should not be the deciding factor. However, this is America.... need I say more?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 04/21/2008

    Agreed. Even if you try to avoid these topics, they keep being thrust upon the public.

    Is either candidate clearly better than the other anyway?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 04/21/2008
    - LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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    First of all there is hardly any difference between the NBC and ABC numbers. NBC has even fewer policy questions. Second of all, this was the last debate of about 20 debates where policy has been covered on all the major issues. ABC had to come up with new events to talk about, current issues and things that are now on the minds of the voters. Today when Obama stopped at a cafe for a campaign stop, he was grilled by the diners on guns, his flag pin and Wright. Whether we like it or not, people want to know the answers to these issues and they are just as relevant to a voter as policy.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 04/21/2008
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    But how many times does he have to answer the same questions? It's a distraction from the issues period. I couldn't give a damn about Wright, or the bitter people in PA. I want to know what the candidate is going to do about the state of this country. That I will listen to over and over. I want to see if the candidates change their positions on the campaign trail. I certainly don't want to know about a terrorist that did things when Obama was 8 years old. I want to know what the hell is up with the folk in that cafe you're referring to. Please tell me that people in this country have bigger fish to fry than whether or not that man wears a flag pin. This is so typical. Folk walk around afraid of the black family down the street when their white neighbor has a meth lab in the basement but because the neighbor is white they must be ok. A flag pin makes you no more patriotic than white skin makes you safe or black skin makes you dangerous.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 04/21/2008
    - LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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    I think people totally twist the whole flag pin issue. Obama himself said that he took the pin off and wouldn't wear it in protest of the war. That is what people want him to talk about but he won't do it any more. Why? Maybe because people see that as blaming the country for actions of a President we don't agree with. Maybe because people are concerned that a person who won't wear a flag pin out of protest can't be a commander of the armed forces in that war and ask people to die while he tries to figure out how to end it. These are valid questions. He needs to talk about not whether or not he's patriotic but why he felt that the symbol of America was the appropriate symbol to protest the war with and why.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 04/21/2008
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    "Today when Obama stopped at a cafe for a campaign stop, he was grilled by the diners on guns, his flag pin and Wright. "

    Yes, because ABC put it in the forefront of their minds. The label flag pin has been a dead issue for months until they brought it up again.

    THAT'S THE PROBLEM; the news FEEDS people's interest and what they talk about. When it's about nonsense, they talk nonsense.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 04/21/2008
    - ron071 I'm a Fan of ron071 13 fans permalink

    LBM Can you believe that after the disasters of the past 8 years we are still being distracted by flag pins, guns and guilt by association? If so, then we will certainly get what we deserve.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/21/2008
    - Shaddup I'm a Fan of Shaddup 16 fans permalink
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    This debate was pretty much the nail in the coffin for ABC as far as I'm concerned. That Path to 9-11 thing was propaganda. Then Disney ripped off all the unions, and use their power to extend copyrights for ridiculous amounts of time when the people making the money don't know the first thing about creating anything original. Oh, and then there's making kids brand name consumers before they even learn to speak, pretty contemptible. So there's one less network on my remote. I get more done away form the TV anyway.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 04/21/2008

    HERE-HERE!!!!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 04/21/2008

    ok

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 04/20/2008
    - ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 242 fans permalink
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    The sole purpose of the ABC debate was to incite fear and doubt in the minds of undecided voters, much like the 3am ad before the Ohio and Texas primaries. Maybe Bill will appear on Limbaugh again tomorrow.

    Clinton is employing some decidedly Republican tactics. The ABC debate, as well as her abhorrent scolding of Democratic 'activists' represent her desire to appeal to the base of the Democratic party. I don't know about you, but to me the term 'base' refers to voters who are so blinded by allegiance to a particular party that they forfeit their right to think independently.

    And I know this entire post will be dismissed by many as the illogical ravings of an Obamabot, but it is impossible to make a reasoned and substantive argument in defense of Hillary Clinton. I'm sorry, but it's true. As a liberal, I'm tired of having to make rhetorical concessions in order to make my views more palatable to the mainstream.

    I support gay marriage, the legalization of marijuana, universal health care, gun control and other communist-secular progressive-card carrying ACLU policies. I am an atheist, too. F**k you if you think that I am unAmerican because of my beliefs. I'm proud of my positions and I will defend them till my last breath!!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 04/20/2008

    i feel you. i may not agree with EVERYTHING you do, but i feel you just the same.

    OBAMA '08!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 04/20/2008
    - ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 242 fans permalink
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    Thank you, calicutie. The fact that you don't agree with me on every issue is irrelevant. Ultimately, we all want the same things. Common goals are far more important than common views. If only we could snap our fingers and summarily dismiss the adversarial bullshit that dominated our discourse. I feel you too.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 04/20/2008
    - presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

    I don't think you are unAmerican at all. But your positions are not Obama's positions so I am assuming you do not support him either. Obama does not support gay marriage, he has flip-flopped on marijuana but finally settled in Feb on the anti-legalization side, his health plan is certainly not universal, he is ostensibly against gun control, he is neither communist-secular nor an ACLU card carrier. And he is not an athiest. I don't understand how your argument for him is, as you say, reasoned and substantive, while any argument for Clinton is not. You don't seem to have anything at all in common with Obama.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 04/21/2008
    - ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 242 fans permalink
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    Obama certainly does not see eye to eye with me on many issues. I support him because regardless of our disparate beliefs we share common goals. Look at it this way: Senator Obama and myself hope to reach the same destination, but we have different ways of getting there. He has displayed a level of candor, maturity, and dignity that is unrivaled by any other prospective President in my time (I'm 28), and I believe that his desire to enhance the overall well-being of the populace is entirely genuine. And that's a lot more than I can say about Clinot or McCain. I know he's not the Messiah, but he is a BIG f**kin' step in the right direction.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 04/21/2008
    - WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 81 fans permalink

    That is correct presto and good for you for pointing this out about Obama's stand on the issues. He stands on these issues are the same as Sen. Clinton.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 04/21/2008
    - renoir I'm a Fan of renoir 18 fans permalink

    This is absurd. Just because ethancorso says who he personally is does not mean that he expects he'll find all those attributes in a candidate in America in 2008. Us atheists have to find our middle ground just like everyone else. I wish ALL the candidates believed in a separation of church and state... hell, I wish all Americans believed in that. But it seems that they don't, so here we are... compromising again.

    Obama is decidedly pro-gay rights and for civil unions. He's for decriminilization of pot. His health care plan is not as well-rounded as Clinton's but I'm guessing that it'll evolve because he is NOT in the back-pocket of big medicine, insurance or pharmaceutical industry. It's tough to be for gun control in this country but as an enlightened person who lives in urban settings, he has nuanced ideas of what gun ownership means for rural people vs. urban people. We are not mature enough as a country to have the gun control conversation with real honesty, so what are you expecting him to do or say? And he does respect a separation of church and state unlike the Republicans who think that god trumps all. Obama has a 79% lifetime approval rating from the ACLU. True liberals and progressives in this country have to take what they can get... and Obama is our best bet for progressive thought. What's your solution? Checking out completely?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 04/21/2008
    - PrinceHal I'm a Fan of PrinceHal 6 fans permalink

    Hey, am I the only person in the room who watches the nightly 6:30 Charlie Gibson newscast, and was thus unsurprised to see Charlie and his sidekick, Stephanopoulos, still, as ever, at work for the GOP on debate night?

    You can be sure they -- and their lovable little network -- are as eager to come down hard on either Democrat.. If they didn't come down quite as hard on Hillary, it's only because they think Obama is the likelier candidate.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Well, I guess Disney hats black people. BOYCOTT Disneyworld, Disneyland and all Pixar films.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 04/20/2008
    - bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

    I don't think you have to watch too much of the last debate to see the tenor of questions aimed at Obama.Additionally I would add that Hillary seemed aware of the treatment Obama was subjected to and was almost beaming with satisfaction.I don't want to sound conspiratorial but her response on some questions she answered seemed scripted and rehearsed.Call me crazy but that's the way I saw it.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    You make an astute observation.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 04/20/2008

    I am with you. It's as if she "knew" what question was going to be asked of Obama and she was relishing on it. The Witch!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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    I saw about 80% of the debate and it seemed that way to me also. The questions tossed to her seemed to arrive with her expectation - and perhaps even her previous rehearsal.

    What struck me, and frankly what I admired, was Obama's restraint. It was only after he was pressed repeatedly on the Weatherman issue that he reluctantly reminded the audience that Bill had actually pardoned two of the convicted bombers - so who was zooming who ?

    Under the circumstances, I thought he acquitted himself well - although his energy didn't seem quite as high as I'd seen in the past.

    8

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/20/2008
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    I found it hilarious that after he made that comment about the pardon, that they didn't go back to Hillary but rather asked if she wanted to move on and of course she did. I found it interesting that no more was said about this Ayers guy after that.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 04/21/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 137 fans permalink
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    Me too, she was glancing at her notes, how could she have notes? Same as when she finally commented on Rev. Wright, also supposedly spontaneous. You are not crazy "bushmocker".

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/20/2008
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    I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. I had to watch a couple of times to be sure.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 04/21/2008
    - heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 27 fans permalink

    Hey, PAposter; you're right. Hilary never looks at notes but she did at the ABC debate. Thanks for mentioning.
    It's amazing how scared to death the big wigs are of Obama. It will mean the party's over for them. That's why the oil companies are raking in the profits now, greedy b____ds; before the Democratic administration comes to the White House and picks up additional congressional seats.
    Another thing not mentioned is stem cells; the real reason Bush doesn't want them is cause the drug companies don't want people cured of diseases. Someone is my family is going to another country in a few months for stem cells. It's awful.
    Obama '08

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 04/21/2008

    yes, it was pretty obvious that she was given a major heads-up about what was going to be asked. that "debate" was custom-made for her. it was disgusting.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 04/20/2008
    - farseer I'm a Fan of farseer 7 fans permalink
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    I'd rather see some cream pies flying than kitchen sinks ...

    http://www.satyamag.com/jul00/rosenbeger.html

    But if you prefer the sinks, note the recipe for Tofu Chocolate Cream Pie.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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    Good Lord! The things they do with Tofu theses days. My Japanese neighbours would
    faint on the spot as they did when I offered them a British version of Rice Pudding.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 04/20/2008
    - KarenKaren I'm a Fan of KarenKaren 9 fans permalink

    I always "felt" Obama was treated differently than Clinton. Her big elephants in the room are rarely addressed as though she's been vetted and no one can ask about anything. Thank you, Nico, for breaking it down. The surprise was CNN asking the most policy questions.

    Regardless of the candidate, this is the kind of analysis I'd like to consume. It's rare to see the media actually doing their homework.

    As for patriotism, why doesn't the media preface questions by saying, "You're known to say, and even lead, the pledge of allegiance with your hand on your heart. You're known to be a Christian. You're known to occasionally wear a flag lapel pin. Yet, you've been dogged by rumors that you're unpatriotic and a muslim. Why do you think that is?" Since the media knows this, but doesn't let on, it's like Clinton saying "as far as I know".

    The majority of Americans think the country is on the wrong track--that includes the mainstream news media.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 04/20/2008

    I am glad that someone took the time to investigate this! Hillary supporters seem to think that Obama's supporters were over reacting, which is bull. They knew that Obama was treated unfairly by Abc's moderators, they did not care because it was Obama that was mistreated. Abc is a pathetic network that truly opened several people's eyes to their prejudices.

    In a strange way, Abc may have actually helped Obama. Only time will tell..............

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/20/2008

    Actually, I have found the same phenomenon on MSNBC, especially Chris Matthews. A stop watch and a little tally demonstrates that even though Chris is sometimes accused of favoring Obama, it is not true and most of the comments and segments on his program are pro-Hillary. Sometimes they are subtle, but most of the time, easily counted. Positive Hillary comments and remarks outnumber Obamas nearly three to one.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 04/20/2008

    I agree with "vlebje" concerning Chris Matthews.

    Why aren't they beating this Peter F. Paul trial to death?

    I kept seeing this Peter Paul name popping up in some in various posts but I never really paid attention to them. I'm a pre-baby boomer and of course I remember Peter, Paul and Mary and associated them with this Peter F. Paul-no connection whatsoever to the scandal facing Hillary Clinton in California April 25,2008.

    All you hear is Rev Wright over and over again. If they can't talk about Mr Paul, then they need to stop talking about the insignificant nonsense concerning Obama.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 04/21/2008
    - WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 81 fans permalink

    That's because they're paid to be here. The Republicans really want to run against Clinton. They've prepared for the past four years to run against her. The plans are already on the shelf. The Republicans are paying people to come here and bash Obama, to tear him down, to malign his positions, to distort his words, to smear his character. That's the Republican/Clinton way.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 04/21/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    LOL! This is hysterical about this ABC debate. I can't help but wonder why no *journalist* (I use that term lightly here) didn't take the time for investigation of debates, until OBama didn't receive his usual ass kissing and free pass.

    Good for you ABC. You didn't choose to kiss Obama's butt like all the other networks, out of fear.

    Hillary was manhandled in every other debate, and no one batted an eye.

    Oh, the hypocrisy. The scary thing is that Obama supporters are really serious about this. They think their candidate was wronged.

    NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD lives!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 04/21/2008
    - UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

    I don't see what all the whining is about, the Democratic nomination has come down to personality since they aren't very different on the issues. Obama/Clinton would have to answer these questions sooner or later and it's better to get it over with now then in October.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    It's not adulation or identity politics. Personality is the force which stands by and executes the platform or abandons it in a narcissistic, Lincoln bedroom - renting scandalous power grab. Personality encompasses all.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 04/20/2008

    You're confusing personality with CHARACTER. Character, defined as "qualities of honesty, courage, or the like; integrity" is what Obama has HANDS DOWN over Clinton.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 04/20/2008
    - WongChin I'm a Fan of WongChin 2 fans permalink

    Thanks to Nico Pitney, people may be spurred to do actual research than jumping the MYTHIC bandwagon that the press has been soft on Obama and harsh on Hillary.

    It is amazing to me that people--including Obama supporters--ever fell for this charade, and the more it is perpetrated, the more excuse the media use to kill Obama.

    Even if you ask Fox's Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reily, Brit Hume, Geraldo, and the rest, including their clownish "polsters," Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the conservative radio talk hosts, CNN's Lou Dobbs, Wolf Blitzer, Campbell Brown, MSNBC's Morning Joe and most of the mornign-afternoon shifters (Tucker Carlson was among them up to a few weeks ago), who either bash and/or undermine Obama on a regular basis, and they will all tell you that the media are kind on Obama, and you can't help but wonder what remains of the media.

    You can't help but wonder what is left of the media!
    Obama was blacked out of cable TV during the weekend leading to the Texas, Ohioa, R.I., and Vermont primaries, with Hillary, and even Bill and Chelsea dominating the airwaves, and I keep hearing that the press is too kind on Obama.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 04/20/2008
    - jnratliff I'm a Fan of jnratliff 8 fans permalink

    It's as bad as the myth of the liberal media what a joke the whole media is owned by arms manufacturers and all the people on the air have been bought and paid for by their masters.
    Not one of them takes a dump without being told when and where and not one says anything without company approval!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/20/2008
    - WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 81 fans permalink

    And the masters want Clinton. She's a known entity. They know that she's on their side. They know that she will not do anything to upset their apple cart. She's one of them. She's pandering and triangulating and outright lying in some cases to appear to be "a good ole boy" commoner, but the powers that be know who she is when the TV lights are turned off. Witness her statements about MoveOn.org, an organization formed to help her husband stay in office after the Lewinsky scandal broke. They were a significant source of support for him. She would likely not be Senator today if not for MoveOn.org and yet she threw them under the bus when it was politically expedient. She's an opportunist. The masters know this about her and if they're going to get a Democratic President in November, they want it to be her. They don't trust Obama because they don't really know how he will act.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 04/21/2008

    he's STILL being blacked-out. i have yet to see any of his town halls covered on mainstream (only c-span), and even then, if you don't catch it that ONE TIME it's shown, that's it. yet you can find PLENTY of coverage of bill's events for hillary, and hillary's events. it's sickening. so i turn to internet alternatives

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 04/20/2008
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