Debate Analysis: ABC Asked Most Scandal Questions, Obama Was Clear Target

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First Posted: 04-20-08 02:00 PM   |   Updated: 04-28-08 05:12 AM

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The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared.

While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minority (mostly Clinton supporters) was unmoved. Where was the media outrage when Hillary was being grilled in past debates? She got it "much much tougher" than Obama did from ABC, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson charged.

This debate over debates had me curious. Was ABC's debate really in a lowly class of its own? Or were Obama backers (inside the press and out) just being overly-sensitive? So I went through each of the four one-on-one contests between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, starting with CNN's debate way back on January 31, and cataloged every question, classifying them as follows:

  • Policy and expertise: In this category, I put any questions about a candidate's policy preferences or legislative record, as well as questions about a candidate's experience ("Neither one of you have ever run a business, so why should either of you be elected to be CEO of the country?").
  • Non-policy questions: Questions focused on politics, including electability and the role of superdelegates, as well as those about campaign management, such as releasing tax records or accepting public financing.
  • Scandal questions: Questions about hot-button, non-policy issues like Jeremiah Wright or Clinton's Bosnia trip. (Note: this category does not include follow-up questions on these issues given to the opposing candidate; ie. Clinton being asked about Wright, or Obama being asked about Bosnia.)
  • This is obviously not a scientific process. I did not factor in the tone of the policy questions, which were often framed as critiques of the candidates and their views (although I found relative parity between Clinton and Obama in this respect). Moreover, for the purposes of this analysis, I'm not taking a position on whether any of the scandal questions were fair or legitimate lines of inquiry.

    That said, I found the results of applying this method surprising. Here are the notable takeaways:

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    1) ABC's debate was in a class of its own, with more scandal and non-policy questions than any other. ABC asked the most scandal questions, and both ABC and NBC devoted only half of their questions to policy issues. The CNN debates were dramatically more policy-focused. Here's a breakdown:

    Policy   Non-Policy   Scandal 
    CNN (1/31)    31 3 1
    CNN (2/21)    23 5 2
    NBC 24 17 5
    ABC 32 14 13


    2) Barack Obama has received the overwhelming majority of scandal questions over the course of the four debates, by a margin of 17 to 4. Obama has fielded questions about his "bitter" remarks, his connections to 60s-era radical William Ayers, two questions about flag lapels, two questions about his alleged plagiarism of speeches, three questions on Louis Farrakhan, and eight about Jeremiah Wright.

    Clinton has received only four such questions -- two about her Bosnia trip, one about a photo of Obama in African garb that was linked to her campaign without evidence by the Drudge Report, and one over-the-top inquiry about Bill Clinton ("If your campaign can't control the former president now, what will it be like when you're in the White House?").

    3) Networks 'balanced' scandal questions to Obama by repeatedly asking Clinton about Obama's electability/readiness. In three of the four debates, moderators followed scandal questions to Obama by asking Clinton whether she doubts Obama's electability or experience.

    CNN (2/21): "Are you saying that your opponent is all hat and no cattle? ... Are you saying that Senator Obama is not ready and not qualified to be commander in chief?"

    NBC: "Is your contention in this latest speech that America would somehow be taking a chance on Senator Obama as commander-in-chief?"

    ABC: "[A] simple yes-or-no question: Do you think Senator Obama can beat John McCain or not?"

    Of course, such questions are politically sensitive for Clinton; however they are hardly comparable in degree to scandal questions Obama received. In each case, they essentially provided Clinton an opportunity to expound on why she believes she is better suited to be the Democratic nominee.

    4) The debate famously mocked by Saturday Night Live was actually very favorable to Clinton. In the SNL rendition, CNN's February debate was a mix of aggressive, biting questions to Hillary Clinton and softballs to Barack Obama. In fact, the candidates received identical or virtually identical questions about Cuba policy, immigration, bilingualism, the economy, Iraq, and earmarks. On the other hand, Obama was called out on an apparent shift over Cuba ("[T]hat's different from your position back in 2003. You called U.S. policy toward Cuba a miserable failure, and you supported normalizing relations. So you've backtracked now..."), Clinton was offered multiple questions on Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief, and Obama was pressed to explain the plagiarism allegations.

    Clinton actually had it much rougher at CNN's earlier one-on-one debate in Hollywood. That was the only debate of the four where Clinton was asked a scandal question while Obama was not. Moreover, Clinton faced three questions on her initial support for the Iraq war ("Why can't you just say right now that that vote was a mistake?"), one question about Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama, and another on the perception of a Bush-Clinton dynasty ("How can you be an agent of change when we have had the same two families in the White House for the last 30 years?").

    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
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    - yathink I'm a Fan of yathink 4 fans permalink

    People actually work at the Major Media. Somebody makes a decision that somebody else gets to stand up in front of a camera and say something. Now, that person can be a general or a peace worker or a Republican or a Democrat. Nine out of ten times that person will be a former general who knows nothing about what my life is like. Or yours. I will not win the lottery next week. I will have to cook, clean, do yard work, and maybe have time to read this junk. Most of the employees at the MSM work in NYC where they do not have cars (or pay $3.47 per gallon for gas), they want $3,000 handbags, they buy $7.00 coffees every morning, they think Kansas is on another planet. I assure you, the people of Kansas or Colorado or Mississippi or many other states don't live like that. And they know what crap looks like when they see it. Now if they would only vote that way.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    sheepthink­...evoluti­onarily safer...10,000 years ago!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 04/20/2008
    - WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 72 fans permalink

    Yathink.....you're absolutely correct. Great post!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 04/21/2008

    Nico Pitney thank you for your work.

    I had more substantive comments, but they've been blocked. Again. (That makes 3 times now)

    I've grown wary of mainstream media. Cyber-sites terrify me even more.

    Can you say mind / (voice) control?

    1984's BB seems to be alive and well . . .

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/20/2008

    I can just imagine the entire ABC news division the day after Election Day realizing that about the best they're going to attract for interviews will be under assistant deputy (?) to the Secretary for the Interior. They'll be in the same doghouse as the Canadian diplomatic community.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/20/2008

    Nico Pitney has done what journalists should have done long ago. Great job.

    Virtually everytime I hear people declcare that the media have been "soft" on Obama, the other person (including Obama supporters) regularly cede the point.I have heard that one study confirmed that the media treat Obama far more leniently than Clinton, and I have wondered whether Fox News, CNN (not just Lou Dobbs, Wolf Blitzer, and virtually all the day hands), and much of MSNBC, where Obama bashing is the creed, are somehow not part of the media!

    As a Black person, I frankly find the widespread view both surprizing and frustrating. What it confirms is that White people, including millions of well-meaning ones are more likely to notice negative reporting on Hilary Clinton than Obama. I mean, you will need to go to Huffington Post and, especially, Daily Kos to read up what I may consider consistent positive reporting on Obama.

    I have been curious to see, or see analyzed, the identity and racial background of the researchers who found the press to be overwhelming lenient on Obama and the methodology they USED. The media are too content to cite the report approvingly and with too little detail to get me started on looking at the researchers and their methodology.

    It is in light of the foregoing that Mr. Pitney's analysis fills an important gap in the present political discourse.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Those who insist the media is "soft" on him because he's black implicitly admit their own entrenched prejudice; they imply that specifically because of his race, he should be subject to a "deep scrub".

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/20/2008

    pithymaxim, you know what is worrying you.

    I never said or even implied that Obama should receive special or lenient treatment because he is Black.

    If something is not worrying you, you should have been concerned that so many people fell for the myth that the media have been kind on Obama and harsh on Clinton when only rudimentary research has found this to be false. You did not even sit back and say, "This is really bad"! Instead, you sought to distort my observations, again, now backed up by data.

    Amazing.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 04/20/2008
    - John I'm a Fan of John 19 fans permalink

    "I mean, you will need to go to Huffington Post and, especially, Daily Kos to read up what I may consider consistent positive reporting on Obama."


    This is very true. That is why we (those who pay attention to things like the fact that 35,000 people attended a single rally for Obama in Philadelphia two days ago) need to get the word out. None of the other candidates, the current ones or those who have dropped out, Republican or Democrat, have seen anything like this level of public support. It is uprecedented, and it is not being reported by the MSM. In fact, the same day that 35,000 showed up for that rally, another 20,000 marched and chanted 'Obama, Obama' in Philadelphia. That went unreported. This says it all.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 04/20/2008
    - hoodrat I'm a Fan of hoodrat 22 fans permalink

    With all due respect Bro., I slightly disagree. You HAD to know it would be like this, and indeed, get worse before the elections. I think all believe his "Blackness" now : ) And the inane questions would flow bwcause of that assertion. Having said that, he deserves the most stringent vetting possible - to let him know the extent of how far true devils will go to undermine his leadership. If he plays the "Jackie Robinson" of politics, running for POTUS - his "heart" NEEDS to be checked. THAT WHICH DOESN'T KILL YOU - MAKES YOU STRONGER. Words to live by. I liked his response, which lots of bloggers thought it was some kind of Hip-Hop thing: Brush debris off your shoulders and carrying on - something an old German taught me years ago, and what Blacks have been doing in America for centuries. His attitude mirrors the purely American spirit of - BRING IT ON! I'll go along with the hope, for now. But as POTUS, I expect a lot of BEING.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/20/2008

    yes! he is challenging americans to THINK CRITICALLY and STAY INVOLVED!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 04/20/2008
    - ann1 I'm a Fan of ann1 12 fans permalink

    Abel, I agree with you 200%. Just glad I'm not the only one who took notice of this!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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    It has been said that you can't have a rational conversation with an irrational person, and that people only see what they want to see, but these blogs are a textbook study of these two truths. How is it possible that anyone could actually follow Hillary Clinton's campaign and Senator Barack Obama's campaign, and still defend Clinton? It's amazing that her followers twist words and spin the issues in the same manner in which she does. While Senator Obama's supporters tend to be more informed and in touch with the issues. We don't really hear a lot from John McCain's supporters, but I hope that when we do, that we can discuss real issues. The Hillary people are like a "fast spreading cancer", I wish that they would just take a step back and really pay attention. It's almost as if they don't really understand what is at stake here. The authors of these blogs do their homework before posting, it would be nice if those who want to comment would do the same.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/20/2008

    Well said. All I hear from HC's supporters are the same talking points of guilt by association attacks. Nothing of value. Nothing that's going to impact anyone's life. Nothing that will help his or her cause. Nothing, except empty hatred aimed at nothing that will matter.
    If this were any other year, it might not matter.
    We are teetering on the brink here and there are far more important issues to discuss here other than Ayres, Wright and lapel pins.
    If Clinton supporters really care about issues, they might do us a favor and try discussing them in an open and honest fashion.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/20/2008
    - barackaide I'm a Fan of barackaide 13 fans permalink

    it would be nice, wouldn't it? we can always dream.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Drama attracts drama, victims embrace victimology. This limbic response is due to mirror neurons in those with weak self-concept.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 04/20/2008

    i like how you think.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 04/20/2008
    - farseer I'm a Fan of farseer 7 fans permalink
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    I favor obama, but I think by turning negative like clinton, he loses the high ground that people appreciated in him. Why is he doing that?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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    Everybody has a breaking point, he's only human.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2008
    - farseer I'm a Fan of farseer 7 fans permalink
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    Good answer.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    His affect is congruent with the external stimuli; still, it is measured indignation, which comforts his supporters and shows that he means what he says about the need for social justice. by showing some pain, anger and annoyance, he legitimizes that of his supporters. It's not a "breaking point," it's actually empathetic and socially intelligent.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 04/20/2008

    Keeping to the high ground doesn't mean you let people push you around. I agree that Obama should stay away from snide comments of the "Annie Oakley" variety. But otherwise he has every right to defend himself.

    I find it interesting that both Clinton and the McCain-Bush smear machine keep calling foul on Obama for defending himself from the very negative politics he is trying to transcend. If his opponents fault Obama for not always holding to the higher standard he set for himself, why aren't they themselves doing the same to begin with?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/20/2008

    He is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He was being criticized for not answering in kind for a while. People saying he was weak, a wimp, blah, blah, blah. Some people see a non-response as weak, others see it as strong. Personally I see it as good manners. A dignified approach, trying to keep things on a higher level, hoping that others will follow suit. But in this country, it doesn't get you very far when people are throwing "the kitchen sink" at you. The problem with bullies is a non-response only encourages more aggression. To push back sometimes is the only way to stop the aggression. Like I said, Obama is in a tough spot.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 04/20/2008

    When you try to stay above the fray and continue getting beat up by smear, lies and deception over the littlest things, they add up and will destroy you. As such whether you like it or not in this day of politics, if not by a great measure, you have to at least show a little bit of tenacity as Barack is trying to do by not going all out throw a big punch but enough to keep him alive till he wins the nomination.

    I am voting for Barack because I am hoping that this kind of politics will die forever.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 04/20/2008

    Obama says he is the candidate to rid our politics of big business control. Whether he can or not remains to be seen. However the important aspect of this is ABC, FOX, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN are what? BIG BUSINESS. That is the underlying theme. He will certainly be swimming upstream the rest of this nominating process with "big business" looming on the banks with their sharpened harpoons, hoping to score a direct hit and kill his candidacy. Rest assured "Big business" fears this man who is running on "no more politics as usual" in Washington.
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        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/20/2008
    - TN I'm a Fan of TN 26 fans permalink

    That is right. He has already started to package them with Washington. These are desparate times people have a hard time knowing who to trust anymore. When they see him taking all the hits, they will know when it is pointed out to them, who is the outsider.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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    sniperfire:

    You got that right! It is up to us to stay involved, and continue to hold "big business" accountable.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 04/20/2008

    The debate was no different from any other job interview. Good ole boys get a free ride, but anyone else has to answer irrelevant personal questions. If we had subjected Dubbya to this kind of scrutiny, we wouldn't be in this mess now.
    Furthermore, it's a fine line between an obsession with flag pins and shaving your head and having a swastika tatoo.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/20/2008

    From her tax forms to Bosnia misspoke and several others Hillary Clinton has also been subjected to some harsh questions. So I don't see this fuss about only Obama getting tough questions.
    When I listen to Campbell Brown on her Election Center hour or Rick Sanchez who had 2 hours last night on CNN - they paint a picture that clearly talks negatively about Hillary. So this is not just Obama alone.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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    What has Hillary had to answer to, but her lies? Where's her "lapel pin", she's a U.S Senator. Are any of Bill's mistresses as patriotic as he is, or are they are as slimy as he and Mark Penn?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Anie I'm a Fan of Anie 3 fans permalink
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    The issue was consistently harsh questioning; there'd been no complaints she was asked to explain *scandals* (outside of her husband's use of idle time in the White House if she were elected). That is a red herring...

    The issue was the focus on asking hard questions while Obama did get softer treatment in style.

    Not quite sure how this came to be about how many 'scandal' questions each was asked, but this was the only method by which the analysis would work in Obama's favor. It wasn't his doing that this happened; it was the press's Clinton-fatigue and boredom and the wish for a good story, which Obama's is.

    Russert's grim face when questioning her (as if she were some criminal) and Brian William's not allowing her to answer a point and saying tv time (for an ad) gets first priority but saying she could answer later and then not giving her the time to answer after commercial. There was a reason for the SNL skit, and it was funny to many only because it was based on a visible truth. Not that she's any angel! But the questioning in her direction was harsher. No scandal-based ones though, as none in her case had been a subject of reports or voter interest during the last half year. Then she gave them the gift of Bosnia ;-)

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 04/20/2008
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    Please your answer to a valid numerical analysis is style. This is the same hogwash that the Hillary is say that she should win the nomination on narrative rather than winning with the votes of the people. The spin from the Clinton camp on this one is garbage. The ABC debate was an obvious attempt by an ex-Clinton aid to make her look better.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 04/20/2008
    - deapthrowt I'm a Fan of deapthrowt 3 fans permalink

    None of this even matters any more because now the focus is on the reason super delegates will choose the candidate and there is no other basis for choice. So Obama people don't even think about howling in protest of concocting phony reasons to pre-select your candidate.

    This has been fought to a draw and there is no other interpretation. Super delegates as agreed at the start will select the candidate. Get used to this outcome. And the super delegates owe no duty to a fringe candidate that can't win nationwide, even though he stole the hearts and minds of the destructive fringe. He never was able to hit the final homerun. Nor has he clearly pulled away from the pack when going head to head with McCain.

    Hillary Clinton has the best shot at winning the entire race .She did an exemplary job and always won every single debate. Obama looked awful in this last one. He will stumble so badly against McCain. This has become obvious to the super-delegates and they are the ones chosen to do the choosing; not the Obamaniacs who alienated main-stream Democrats with their zealot excesses and will scare the heck out of the independents when they are asked to choose between McCain or Obama.

    Obama never could make the closing scale and never get out of his unelectable demographics. Sorry, but these are the facts. Showing what poor losers you are underscores why we should never pick your fringe choice.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/20/2008
    - cheforacle I'm a Fan of cheforacle 38 fans permalink
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    I disagree completely and reject the smugness with which you deliver your comments. Obama will have a field day against McCain in their debates, IMHO, because McCain has never been challenged about his core beliefs:tax cuts for the rich, war in Iraq for a century and a weak economic program. Against Clinton there was not much substantive difference so the choice for Obama was to go negative which would conflict with his stated style of politics. The fact that he opposed the Iraq war makes him a better candidate to take McCain on.

    Second, the notion that Clinton would d better in the general is just not supported by any evidence. Her negatives have always been too high and they have gotten much higher. Almost all Repubs would prefer Clinton be the nominee except the ones who are actually supporting him because they actually prefer him to McCain. The superdelegates have been moving to Obama since Super Tuesday so your statement that they will not support him is erroneous. Further your statements about Obamaniacs shows your bias based on a disdain or the majority of Dem primary and caucus voters. What you claim are facts are your delusions. Do the math. Clinton cannot win.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 04/20/2008
    - hoodrat I'm a Fan of hoodrat 22 fans permalink

    Well then swallow - YOU vote for her............: )

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 04/20/2008
    - mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 214 fans permalink
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    deapthrowt, Your first mistake was to treat those who made the legitimate choice of Obama as insignificant and irrelevant. Far from alienating main-stream Democrats, he has mobilized them. He is also pulling in moderate Republicans who are enraged at what Bush and co. has done to the country, and there are many of them out there and they are angry. The MSM doesn't talk about them, however. These moderates will NOT vote for Hillary.

    It's obvious to the Superdelegates? Do you read anything? Obama has been picking up by far the greater number of delegates Hillary's have been coming in a trickle. She started off with a huge head start which is almost gone now.

    I have to shake my head. Hillary is losing. The more she and Obama campaign in each state where she is ahead, the more the gap closes between them, and very quickly in Pennsylvania it seems. Showing what poor losers we are? Is that like Hillary offering Obama the vice presidential spot when she is behind? The delusional chutzpa of all of you is astounding. I was reading another post by a Hillmaniac, to borrow your phrase and alter it a bit. It is suitably insulting, no? She said that there was no other option, Hillary HAD to win. No other reality was possible. So... what? Does that mean she'll shoot to kill? Go mad? Jump off a bridge? Go on a psychotic break? Who exactly are the cult members here?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 04/21/2008

    This debate was atrocious. From Sean Hannity questions to the quality (or lack thereof) of other questions, it was simply horrible. So many people I know turned it off after 30 mintues or so. Why didn't they ask about the increased prices of bread and gas? What about real estate values dropping so fast with all the foreclosures, etc. etc? Obviously, George S and Charlie G do not have a clue as to what is on the minds of American people. Also, the flag pin question was ridiculous and no one even asked HRC why she didn't wear one although she wears lapels every day with her pant suits. GS and CG are obviously sexist too! (In reality, however, the pin question should have never been asked of either of them.)

    Is anyone concerned about the amount of alcohol that HRC seems to down? I wonder if she's drunk each night....

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 04/20/2008

    And Bama.......?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 04/20/2008
    - sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

    Glad to hear he was the target.
    Can't stand him, he dishes but can't take it.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 04/20/2008
    - missjabez I'm a Fan of missjabez 18 fans permalink
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    I would say the opposite is true.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/20/2008

    You're just mad because he keeps his cool under fire.

    People like that always piss off large groups of people.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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    Oh ?? Have you seen him cry the night before a primary yet?

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        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 04/20/2008
    - davesideas I'm a Fan of davesideas 7 fans permalink

    huh?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 04/20/2008
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    No, it was Hillary who threw the dishes and everything else in her kitchen. Glad I could
    clear that up for you.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

    So if this debate was being moderated by a former member of the Clinton Team, why did Obama agree to it? All the claims from Kerry that they won't be swift boated and he does this? Kerry hasn't changed.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Maybe he was misled, but maybe to demonstrate the bias...it DID backfire on ABC...so who's smarter?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 04/20/2008
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    I agree. Obama was mislead. Its as simple as that. I have watched Stephanopolous on many occasions. He always seemed fair. His true colors certainly came out during the debate.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/20/2008
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    I am glad that this journalist did his homework so that those of us who were befuddled by the debate feel vindicated. Obama was definitely treated badly by those two asinine moderators. It was definitely an attack on Obama and at least ABC won't get away with it. The evidence is all there.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

    If they were so asinine, how could they have planned an attack?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    We attribute the questions to the moderators while understanding they are approved by corporate interests. They are who we interface with so they are who we blame or deem incompetent (assinine), wishing to reject more nefarious motives from behind the curtain.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/20/2008

    that's the point: their attack WAS ASININE!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 04/20/2008
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