Debate Analysis: ABC Asked Most Scandal Questions, Obama Was Clear Target

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First Posted: 04-20-08 02:00 PM   |   Updated: 04-28-08 05:12 AM

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The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared.

While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minority (mostly Clinton supporters) was unmoved. Where was the media outrage when Hillary was being grilled in past debates? She got it "much much tougher" than Obama did from ABC, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson charged.

This debate over debates had me curious. Was ABC's debate really in a lowly class of its own? Or were Obama backers (inside the press and out) just being overly-sensitive? So I went through each of the four one-on-one contests between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, starting with CNN's debate way back on January 31, and cataloged every question, classifying them as follows:

  • Policy and expertise: In this category, I put any questions about a candidate's policy preferences or legislative record, as well as questions about a candidate's experience ("Neither one of you have ever run a business, so why should either of you be elected to be CEO of the country?").
  • Non-policy questions: Questions focused on politics, including electability and the role of superdelegates, as well as those about campaign management, such as releasing tax records or accepting public financing.
  • Scandal questions: Questions about hot-button, non-policy issues like Jeremiah Wright or Clinton's Bosnia trip. (Note: this category does not include follow-up questions on these issues given to the opposing candidate; ie. Clinton being asked about Wright, or Obama being asked about Bosnia.)
  • This is obviously not a scientific process. I did not factor in the tone of the policy questions, which were often framed as critiques of the candidates and their views (although I found relative parity between Clinton and Obama in this respect). Moreover, for the purposes of this analysis, I'm not taking a position on whether any of the scandal questions were fair or legitimate lines of inquiry.

    That said, I found the results of applying this method surprising. Here are the notable takeaways:

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    1) ABC's debate was in a class of its own, with more scandal and non-policy questions than any other. ABC asked the most scandal questions, and both ABC and NBC devoted only half of their questions to policy issues. The CNN debates were dramatically more policy-focused. Here's a breakdown:

    Policy   Non-Policy   Scandal 
    CNN (1/31)    31 3 1
    CNN (2/21)    23 5 2
    NBC 24 17 5
    ABC 32 14 13


    2) Barack Obama has received the overwhelming majority of scandal questions over the course of the four debates, by a margin of 17 to 4. Obama has fielded questions about his "bitter" remarks, his connections to 60s-era radical William Ayers, two questions about flag lapels, two questions about his alleged plagiarism of speeches, three questions on Louis Farrakhan, and eight about Jeremiah Wright.

    Clinton has received only four such questions -- two about her Bosnia trip, one about a photo of Obama in African garb that was linked to her campaign without evidence by the Drudge Report, and one over-the-top inquiry about Bill Clinton ("If your campaign can't control the former president now, what will it be like when you're in the White House?").

    3) Networks 'balanced' scandal questions to Obama by repeatedly asking Clinton about Obama's electability/readiness. In three of the four debates, moderators followed scandal questions to Obama by asking Clinton whether she doubts Obama's electability or experience.

    CNN (2/21): "Are you saying that your opponent is all hat and no cattle? ... Are you saying that Senator Obama is not ready and not qualified to be commander in chief?"

    NBC: "Is your contention in this latest speech that America would somehow be taking a chance on Senator Obama as commander-in-chief?"

    ABC: "[A] simple yes-or-no question: Do you think Senator Obama can beat John McCain or not?"

    Of course, such questions are politically sensitive for Clinton; however they are hardly comparable in degree to scandal questions Obama received. In each case, they essentially provided Clinton an opportunity to expound on why she believes she is better suited to be the Democratic nominee.

    4) The debate famously mocked by Saturday Night Live was actually very favorable to Clinton. In the SNL rendition, CNN's February debate was a mix of aggressive, biting questions to Hillary Clinton and softballs to Barack Obama. In fact, the candidates received identical or virtually identical questions about Cuba policy, immigration, bilingualism, the economy, Iraq, and earmarks. On the other hand, Obama was called out on an apparent shift over Cuba ("[T]hat's different from your position back in 2003. You called U.S. policy toward Cuba a miserable failure, and you supported normalizing relations. So you've backtracked now..."), Clinton was offered multiple questions on Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief, and Obama was pressed to explain the plagiarism allegations.

    Clinton actually had it much rougher at CNN's earlier one-on-one debate in Hollywood. That was the only debate of the four where Clinton was asked a scandal question while Obama was not. Moreover, Clinton faced three questions on her initial support for the Iraq war ("Why can't you just say right now that that vote was a mistake?"), one question about Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama, and another on the perception of a Bush-Clinton dynasty ("How can you be an agent of change when we have had the same two families in the White House for the last 30 years?").

    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
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    ABC perpetuated a sham on the American people under the premise of a national debate. Stephanopolis had a direct conflict of interest and should have immediately stepped aside out of fairness the the American voters. With all the commercials, they clearly were after squeezing the dollars out of people who were watching to help decide how to vote, brought to you by Carl's Junior.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    ABC and Carl's Jr, both sponsors of tawdry, low class porn...ie the "debate" and the Paris Hilton commercial. Telling that they're partners.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 04/20/2008
    - jadez I'm a Fan of jadez 3 fans permalink

    Obama has beat the clinton machine and won the nomination because he is the superior candidate.

    of course the paid shills in the media will be trying to bring him down.
    he is honest. they are hacks.
    he will be fair.
    they represent the elite and of course it goes on and on.

    The real reason there is a full out attack on him by the entire media is because they will stop at NOTHING to prevent a black man from becoming the most powerfull man on earth.

    this is now a battle for the country.
    will thee average decent american stand with Obama? or vote against their best interests and continue the march to a facist state under mccain?

    there is no other option now.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

    This has nothing to do with race. If you keep thinking this way, we will lose!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    you mean reframe it to pretend race isn't the issue to decrease inherent racist undertones that could sacrifice votes...

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    They oughtta relax; with the looming depression and crumbling social and physical infrastructure, we are becoming a Second World Nation...hey, he won't be the most powerful guy in the world...

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 93 fans permalink

    To hear the 'pundits' talking on the Sunday shows, you would think Obama supporters were all blind and foolish. David Gregory actually said Hillary's positions on the "umbrella" in the middle east would be vetted only if and after she was the nominee......isn't that backwards? So Obama needs to be hit repeatedly by boloney questions because the republicans will do it later, but Hillary's stance on war needs to go unquestioned at this point. David Gregory should be put on notice for that stupid comment. I've watched his new show on MSNBC and he's obviously in the tank for Hillary.

    This is a prime example of the ineptitude of the main stream media. I had to turn it off or I would have had a stroke prior to voting for Obama on TUESDAY in PA!!

    VOTE OBAMA......The smart choice for a better future!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 04/20/2008
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    We could all save some money and just have the internet as a news and research tool for actual facts . I know the cable people will hit the bricks with cancelations. I am seriously thinking about it. The bias is rediculous.

    C'mon Team America, let's landslide Obama in PA and beyond!

    Barack on!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    All, Hail Hitler!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 04/21/2008

    We have notified ABC NEWS and FOX NEWS we will no longer support their advertisors that
    advertise with Sean Hannity, Charlie Gibson, and George Stephanopoulos.
    We are now 250,000.000 strong and our members keep growing by the hour. It;s clear the news media wants the Democratic to keep on tearing each other down( makes for good rating),
    We know they don't have the American voters interest at heart.
    Sean Hannity is a hypocrate if anyone would every expose the fact that he promoted the career of Hal Turner a neo nazi ,his career would be over tomorrow. but media protects their own.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    post a link to all advertisers to be boycotted....

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 04/20/2008

    let's boycott anybody who dares to criticize Obama, ( why don't we change the Constitution next? )

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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    This kind of reminds me of the old feminist Tshirt about Fred Astaire and Ginger Rodgers "She did everything he did only backwards and wearing high heels". Obama is already better than Hillary but the media are going to expect him to be flawless just to be good enough.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

    I guess I don't understand. Fred Astair - Obama, Ginger Rogers - Clinton. I agree Clinton has done everything Obama has done, and in high heels while dancing backwards to avoid the back stabbers.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 04/20/2008
    - cambio I'm a Fan of cambio 5 fans permalink

    Yet Hillary supporters still say she is a victim of the big bad media, and were of course happy as pie about the ABC "debate"

    Gotta love that..

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    cambio: Yep, gotta love that. I loved reading this blog and reading the posts from the exploding OBama supporters' heads.

    It was great entertainment. It was also amazing that you people are so delusional that one debate where Obama didn't have his butt kissed, was like the end of the world to you guys.

    Hillary has gone through this in every debate and still beat the crap out of Obama and the dopey commentators.

    That says it all.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 04/21/2008
    - BillZBubb I'm a Fan of BillZBubb 54 fans permalink
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    Yes, the ABC "debate" was a joke. But, your implication that they were going after Obama is laughable. They were cheaply going after ratings. It isn't surprising the "debates" hosted by the big networks concentrate on the "juicy" stuff. They are going after ratings and sizzle. They couldn't care less whether Obama screwed up or Hillary, or McCain, just as long as someone provides entertainment value. Plus, the talking head moderators would love to become the guy who killed a campaign with a question. So, they ask tripe and hope for some blood on the floor.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    If your supposition is correct, that ratings via bloodsport was the only goal, then your characterization of the Obama targeting as "laughable" is illogical. Due to race (make the black guy tap dance for us) , xenophobia, prurient interest, cultural ignorance (and proud of it, yeeha!) , mass attention deficit, and vested corporate interests, Ocham's razor posits that attacking Obama is most likely to be true.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 04/20/2008

    While there is a kernel of reality there...why then did they not even up on the "juicy stuff" and ask HC about some of the incidents during her stay in the WH (she considers this as part of her resume)...like ....how her credibility may have been damaged because of her husband's philandering. I am sure Stephanopolos with all of his experience during that administration could have come up with some real humdingers. Like someone else said...it wasnt the tough questions...it was the dumb questions. Plenty of tough questions about health care and how to extricate from Iraq or the economy.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 04/20/2008

    I might agree with you, if Stephanopolos weren't one of the moderators, and if the flag pin woman weren't specifically sought out days before the debate (asking only one of two filmed questions "from the people", both of which were scandal questions about Obama), and if Stephanopolos didn't take his talking points from Sean Hannity.

    No, that whole "debate" was a setup from the outset.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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    It would have been helpful, if those questions had held any substance or carried any merit.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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    Sorry. This was a reply to EdRoberts below.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 04/20/2008

    There is a double standard in this election and it's not in favor of Obama. I've never seen a candidate have to explain what OTHER people have done more than Obama. And the flag pin issue? C'mon, give me a break. These are all manufactured issues.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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    Manufactured for lazy minded people and the flag pins also literally manufactured in China.
    Sorry I couldn't resist.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 04/20/2008
    - drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

    this is the most intellectually lazy country on the planet. and i produce tv for a living.... and the lazier they (viewers) are... the more likely i am going to see my show(s). face it, we just aren't a very smart bunch of people. as a matter of fact, i would go as far as to say... we are the greatest... overachievers.. in the world!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 04/20/2008
    - samandally I'm a Fan of samandally 4 fans permalink

    So what, Hillary has been the target for a long time. It's about time he gets grilled.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 04/20/2008

    I see some (supposed) Hillary supporters making the claim that this is fair pay-back. Yet Nico Pitney's article makes a strong claim that earlier debates were balanced, there wasn't anything like a strong anti-Clinton pro-Obama slant in earlier debates, and the ABC debate was, in fact, quite hostile to Obama.

    Other than parroting the same remark over and over again, do you have anything like the analysis that Pitney made to back up your claim? Or are you just making things up?

    The reason I say "supposed" Hillary supporters: I know a few real Hillary supporters, and they don't really have this animus against Obama. I know that a lot of the hard right would rather McCain ran against Clinton than against Obama. I suspect that a lot of the apparent forum support for Clinton is actually right-wing sock-puppetry. For one thing, the rhetoric is way too similar to the rhetoric of the right-wing talk-radio gutter-trolls.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    I'm a real Hillary supporter. Have voted Dem all my life and have never voted Republican.

    And I believe this is fair pay back to Obama because Hillary was manhandled in every other debate and the outrage over this ABC news debate is ludicrous.

    P.S. I won't for Obama or McCain in November.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 04/21/2008
    - dill I'm a Fan of dill 2 fans permalink

    Honey, he just pointed out that she has NOT been the target, that Obama has been targeted quite frequently, while Hillary has pretty much been given a pass during the debates. Didn't you even read the article?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    How much more lying are you people going to resort to. This article is ridiculous to begin with if it is trying to suggest that Hillary got a free pass during all the debates.

    ANy one with a brain would know that Hillary was never given a free pass in any debates and that the ABC one was the first one that Mr. king Obama was challenged to answer some difficult questions, whether it was fair or not.

    THe difference between Hillary and OBama is, that when Hillary was manhandled and grilled by those dopey MSNBC commentors, she held her own and came out over OBama and those idiots.

    Obama couldn't hold his own in this debate, because he has never had to answer an uncomfortable question and he basically SUCKS IN DEBATES!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 04/21/2008

    How in the world can you say that when the breakdown above that you JUST READ says the opposite? You sound like "timothe" further down in the comments who wants to know why Nico did not include the GOP debates in his analysis. Neither comment makes any sense.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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    Really? Has she ever been asked why she doesn't where an American Flag pin on her lapel? Has she ever asked how patriotic her Pastor is? Has she had to answer for the behavior of Bill Clinton or Mark Penn? We have been talking about Rev. Wright for over 6 weeks. Bosnia was cover for 2 days and only asked about once during a debate. If you want to justify your vote fine, but don't suggest that the coverage has been fair and balanced. I forgot, we are talking about a Black Man vs. a White Liar in the land of the "Free". Give me a F*cking break!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 04/20/2008

    Well, she's a target-rich environment. It could be worse. Someone with pretensions to being a journalist could ask her about Bill's visit to Kazakhstan with Frank Giustra and how Bill supported the lunatic in charge (see Doonesbury - Duke's client pres. of Berzerkistan) and Kazakhstan being named to some commission whose raison d'etre is fair and open elections. I think the American people deserve to know if there might be more nonsense like that in store for them.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 04/20/2008
    - nepat I'm a Fan of nepat 4 fans permalink

    Jim Crow, alive and well and living inside our television newsrooms.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 04/20/2008
    - drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

    exactly. let me ask this... how many people of color have been the "moderators" of the 21 debates?

    there is a whiff in the air of.... "this guy is getting by with being uppitty"... we need to take him down a notch.

    its not racism per se... its something worse. its .. "we will tell you if you belong with us before you get carried away here, thinking you BELONG"

    john a.
    a white guy
    and a vet by the way

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 04/20/2008
    - barackaide I'm a Fan of barackaide 13 fans permalink

    clearly.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Tavis Smiley, a Clinton apologist

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 04/20/2008
    - hoodrat I'm a Fan of hoodrat 27 fans permalink
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    Exactly Bro., PIGEONHOLING. Kinda like service, depending on who you hung with, determined whether you were a "shitbird", or not. Not in field - but assuredly back on base. Obama AND Edwards got one thing right - it's a CLASS thing, not necessarily a "color" code issue.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 04/20/2008
    - CTmom13 I'm a Fan of CTmom13 9 fans permalink

    I have been a HUGE Obama supporter, BUT this really worries me. I am very nervous now.Do you think Hillary can still win it?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/20/2008
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    Not.
    A.
    Prayer.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 04/20/2008
    - storeyy I'm a Fan of storeyy 22 fans permalink
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    Obama supporters:

    He won't win in PA., but we expected that...Gov Rendell said PA wouldn't vote for a black man. His words not mine. With that being said, I think as long as we keep it below double digits and win in NC and Indy, it will nulify any PA win.......Be patient, you will here a lot of spin after she wins PA. Her supporters will say she's back in it, but this will be her last hurrah. I only wish that PA voters would just put an end to it.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/20/2008
    - PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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    CTmom13

    If you are truly an Obama supporter, you know that together we cannot only cover the sprea, win can win this baby outright. Go vote, that's all you can do, and the rest of us will do our part.

    Obama 08
    Empowering the People!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 04/20/2008

    CT Mom13, go to a shrink, take some pills, after November you will need some Valium to overcome the trend disappearance.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2008
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    Hillary has been mathematically eliminated. It's nothing more than a vanity campaign at this point. You should be no more nervous about Hillary than you would be about a come-from-behind win from Mike Gravel.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    Well if you say it, it must be true.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/21/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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    Mr. Pitney has just confirmed what many of us who were thinking objectively, felt during
    many of these debates. Out of the estimated 10 million viewers watching ABC, I wonder
    just how many people felt the same?
    This last one hosted by the ABC, should go down in history as one of the most blatantly,
    condescending examples of a direct "hit job" on Sen. Obama. ABC must be so proud.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/20/2008

    he is being crucified just like our first lord and savior.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    Trying to appear purposely delusional to cast a bad light on Obama supporters, eh?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 04/20/2008

    Yup, check the profile. He's a fake.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 04/21/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    *to cast a bad light on Obama supporters..*

    Now that wouldn't be hard to do now would it?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 04/21/2008

    I'm an ardent Obama fan but, really, get a grip.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 04/20/2008

    The media is awful. Just think how it was in East Germany several decades ago. Or is it worse here, the establishment, conservative slop fed to us being characterized as "the liberal media".

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 04/20/2008

    Now, if only the background meetings b/t Clinton's and Stephanopoulos had been recorded.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 04/20/2008
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    GhostOfSchlesinger:

    Exactly ! The epitome of Conflict of Interest! So transparent!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 04/20/2008

    I can only imagine the uproar if it were discovered Clinton got the debate questions ahead of time (anyone else think here answers sounded just a little rehearsed, compared to previous debates?), and/or was consulted on the content of the debate.

    Good luck ever finding out though... although it wouldn't surprise me.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 04/20/2008
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