Debate Analysis: ABC Asked Most Scandal Questions, Obama Was Clear Target

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First Posted: 04-20-08 02:00 PM   |   Updated: 04-28-08 05:12 AM

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The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared.

While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minority (mostly Clinton supporters) was unmoved. Where was the media outrage when Hillary was being grilled in past debates? She got it "much much tougher" than Obama did from ABC, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson charged.

This debate over debates had me curious. Was ABC's debate really in a lowly class of its own? Or were Obama backers (inside the press and out) just being overly-sensitive? So I went through each of the four one-on-one contests between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, starting with CNN's debate way back on January 31, and cataloged every question, classifying them as follows:

  • Policy and expertise: In this category, I put any questions about a candidate's policy preferences or legislative record, as well as questions about a candidate's experience ("Neither one of you have ever run a business, so why should either of you be elected to be CEO of the country?").
  • Non-policy questions: Questions focused on politics, including electability and the role of superdelegates, as well as those about campaign management, such as releasing tax records or accepting public financing.
  • Scandal questions: Questions about hot-button, non-policy issues like Jeremiah Wright or Clinton's Bosnia trip. (Note: this category does not include follow-up questions on these issues given to the opposing candidate; ie. Clinton being asked about Wright, or Obama being asked about Bosnia.)
  • This is obviously not a scientific process. I did not factor in the tone of the policy questions, which were often framed as critiques of the candidates and their views (although I found relative parity between Clinton and Obama in this respect). Moreover, for the purposes of this analysis, I'm not taking a position on whether any of the scandal questions were fair or legitimate lines of inquiry.

    That said, I found the results of applying this method surprising. Here are the notable takeaways:

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    1) ABC's debate was in a class of its own, with more scandal and non-policy questions than any other. ABC asked the most scandal questions, and both ABC and NBC devoted only half of their questions to policy issues. The CNN debates were dramatically more policy-focused. Here's a breakdown:

    Policy   Non-Policy   Scandal 
    CNN (1/31)    31 3 1
    CNN (2/21)    23 5 2
    NBC 24 17 5
    ABC 32 14 13


    2) Barack Obama has received the overwhelming majority of scandal questions over the course of the four debates, by a margin of 17 to 4. Obama has fielded questions about his "bitter" remarks, his connections to 60s-era radical William Ayers, two questions about flag lapels, two questions about his alleged plagiarism of speeches, three questions on Louis Farrakhan, and eight about Jeremiah Wright.

    Clinton has received only four such questions -- two about her Bosnia trip, one about a photo of Obama in African garb that was linked to her campaign without evidence by the Drudge Report, and one over-the-top inquiry about Bill Clinton ("If your campaign can't control the former president now, what will it be like when you're in the White House?").

    3) Networks 'balanced' scandal questions to Obama by repeatedly asking Clinton about Obama's electability/readiness. In three of the four debates, moderators followed scandal questions to Obama by asking Clinton whether she doubts Obama's electability or experience.

    CNN (2/21): "Are you saying that your opponent is all hat and no cattle? ... Are you saying that Senator Obama is not ready and not qualified to be commander in chief?"

    NBC: "Is your contention in this latest speech that America would somehow be taking a chance on Senator Obama as commander-in-chief?"

    ABC: "[A] simple yes-or-no question: Do you think Senator Obama can beat John McCain or not?"

    Of course, such questions are politically sensitive for Clinton; however they are hardly comparable in degree to scandal questions Obama received. In each case, they essentially provided Clinton an opportunity to expound on why she believes she is better suited to be the Democratic nominee.

    4) The debate famously mocked by Saturday Night Live was actually very favorable to Clinton. In the SNL rendition, CNN's February debate was a mix of aggressive, biting questions to Hillary Clinton and softballs to Barack Obama. In fact, the candidates received identical or virtually identical questions about Cuba policy, immigration, bilingualism, the economy, Iraq, and earmarks. On the other hand, Obama was called out on an apparent shift over Cuba ("[T]hat's different from your position back in 2003. You called U.S. policy toward Cuba a miserable failure, and you supported normalizing relations. So you've backtracked now..."), Clinton was offered multiple questions on Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief, and Obama was pressed to explain the plagiarism allegations.

    Clinton actually had it much rougher at CNN's earlier one-on-one debate in Hollywood. That was the only debate of the four where Clinton was asked a scandal question while Obama was not. Moreover, Clinton faced three questions on her initial support for the Iraq war ("Why can't you just say right now that that vote was a mistake?"), one question about Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama, and another on the perception of a Bush-Clinton dynasty ("How can you be an agent of change when we have had the same two families in the White House for the last 30 years?").

    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
    The furor over ABC's Democratic debate last week was not universally shared. While Obama supporters (and many media critics) decried what they saw as biased, gotcha-style questioning, a vocal minori...
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    ...And I need a headline for this....?

    Anyone with half a brain and fair-minded would see what a disaster ABC was.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 04/20/2008

    I think the best thing that has come of this political season for the candidacy of POTUS is that it's become very common for everyday Americans to see the horrible state of our media, the very poor service they provide to us. We are showing them that we see through what they want to distract us with. We are showing them that we have the ability to inform ourselves in other ways, that we will look through many lenses, not just a few, that we will form our opinions based on full information rather than just what they want to offer. It's feels so good to know that! They are in with the old way of politics, because without it they will lose money. They are all part of the well-connected that Hillary says she will fight, but she is one of them too! It's the media STUPID! We will not be fooled anymore.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 04/20/2008

    Good points. I have become disillusioned with the New York Times over the last few months. Mind you, to their credit it was the comments on their own blogs that made me realize how much in the tank they are for Sen. Clinton. For the Times, this has a lot of collateral damage. I hardly ever buy a copy now. I just check out the web site. The guilt is easing off. And I have doubts about other stuff they're reporting on.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 04/20/2008
    - drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

    our media is a joke. has been for a while. but today... ? well, all i can say is... "the news has been canceled"

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 48 fans permalink

    seriously, could Obama supporters whine just a little more!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 73 fans permalink
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    There is a remote chance that they might ease up when you and your candidate do.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 04/20/2008
    - S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 92 fans permalink
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    No, Hillary gets the 'girl' accomodation. She can complain, but Obama has to take it. If his campaign complains about treatment, he'll look unmanly.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/20/2008
    - missjabez I'm a Fan of missjabez 18 fans permalink
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    I hope Obama does not agree to any more debates. He is the front-runner, and he is not obligated to debate Clinton anymore. They have debated 21 times and there is nothing more to discuss. That last debate was a put-up job;Clinton and Stephawhatchacallit were defitinitely in cahoots. No, Hillary, no more debates, since you don't play by the rules.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 04/20/2008

    At the very least, I don't expect him to ever agree to one from ABC again.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/20/2008

    you are right, the more he debates, the more you see who he really is. He is unable to debate, unless they change the rules and teleprompters are allowed.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 04/20/2008
    - dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

    No, no, no, no, no more debates. Obama may have to answer a few more hard questions and look stupid again.

    We won't have it. BOOHOO, leave our Obama alone.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 04/21/2008
    - DAVESEAN I'm a Fan of DAVESEAN 3 fans permalink

    good job,Nico Pitney........keep it up.hillary-cry-baby was always crying foul and whinning as regards all the former debate.....all of a sudden ,she nows say the debate is alright......the media just like propaganda without checking the facts...the comedy show also drove home a false message of hillary being bullied the press.....­...welldon­e(Nico Pitney)

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 04/20/2008
    - RKWM I'm a Fan of RKWM permalink

    I think it would be pertinent to look at the last two debates before these also. The patterns are similar.
    The media its own Jim Crow standards that have been apparent from the outset.

    Obama must reject and denounce. One is not okay by itself. Hillary is presumed patriotic. Obama must prove it. Obama should have left his church but all the other candidates must simply disagree with their pastors. I suppose that genetically blacks must be believed to be more easily swayed by those with home they shake hands, stand in a room, or ride on an airplane with.

    Hillary has had contact with 3 felons who were involved in her campaigns---Hsu, Paul Peter and Jinnah. For some reason no one worries that their criminal mentalites may sway her (or that hers enabled theirs).

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 04/20/2008
    - kaygee I'm a Fan of kaygee 2 fans permalink

    I live in France and I know a dozen American registered voters who hesitated about Obama after the Wright-Farrakhan stuff came out. They might have been won back by Obama, had his performance in the debat been a little more convincing. The questions could have helped him.

    More seriously, if this had been 2004 and he had been across from a Rove-readied George Bush, Obama would have lost the Democrate the election.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 04/20/2008
    - ddlrid I'm a Fan of ddlrid 5 fans permalink

    Your comments are spot on! And when you couple that with the fact that Clinton, until Iowa, was the presumptive nominee in both press and punditry---a position that she and her campaign not only embraced but actively promoted---it is clear that Clinton has had the gushing treatment and not Senator Obama. The very fact that Obama is not yet the declared nominee, although he has had an insurmountable delegate, states won and popular vote lead FOR MONTHS, goes to show how imbalanced this whole process has been.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 04/20/2008

    Unfortunately that is the way it is.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Citizen08 I'm a Fan of Citizen08 7 fans permalink

    Yeah! Why is that! Why is Hillary Presumed Patriotic? What she is doing to the Party isn’t Patriotic, what she’s doing to a Fellow Democrat Isn’t Patriotic!!! And, where the heck, is her stupid flag-pin!!!

    This flag-pin thing is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, if you don’t wear a flag-pin you’re not Patriotic! Give me a break!! My 10-years old thinks that is silly!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 04/20/2008
    - joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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    So are you saying these questions should not have been raised? And the American people weren't entitled to hear the "answers"?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 04/20/2008
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    Hillary's campaign is like the war in Iraq she enabled. She keeps changing what mission accomplished is too.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 04/20/2008
    - timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

    Why did you not include the GOP debates in your analysis? Did you want to make sure you got the desired result?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 04/20/2008
    - AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

    I don't think they asked Clinton or Obama any questions during the GOP debates and that's what this article was about.

    Of course you could track how many times Ronald Reagan's name came up in the GOP debates.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 04/20/2008

    That's a fair question, but I think he was trying to show how the democratic debates have shaped up

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 04/20/2008
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    1, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GOP DEBATES - YOUR NOMINEE IS CHOSEN
    2. THE ARGUMENT WAS WHETHER THE PRESS WAS MORE FAIR TO CLINTON VS. OBAMA -- MCSAME AND CO. HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
    3. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GOP DEBATES EXCEPT TO CATCH MCSAME FLIP FLOPPING AND SING BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN
    4. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GOP DEBATES
    5. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GOP DEBATES - THEY WILL LOOSE

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 04/20/2008

    Timmy, the discussion was about the democratic candidates. Paranoid?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 04/20/2008
    - mthespian I'm a Fan of mthespian 2 fans permalink
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    Because the topic at hand is fairness between Clinton and Obama -- neither of whom were in the GOP debates as far as I know. Pay attention!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/20/2008
    - AnnieinOR I'm a Fan of AnnieinOR 24 fans permalink

    thanks for the analysis - I will try NOT to bitch about CNN as much - but I still think they have pompous dumbsheets employed there like Lou Dobbs and Wolf Blitzer.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/20/2008
    - genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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    Bottom line Pennsylvan­ia........­..........­..........­......

    Take a good look at Clinton. See those raised eyebrows and the wide eyed look ? Sort like a look of constant surprise?

    These are the eyes of an insane person.. True....they have done studies on this.....

    How many times...how many years have we all watched her walk into a room or get off an airplane and pretend to recognize someone and be so surprised to see them? Yeah, yeah...that look.

    Ok...Pennsylvania, it's up to you now. You can put an end to all this.......we are counting on you....you can do it. The world is watching you Pennsylvan­ia.....sho­w 'em, show 'em... you aren't as gullible as they think you are.

    Oh yeah...and.... ask yourself .....WTF has happened to Bill Clinton?
    Wow.....just wow.
    Was he always this crazy? Was it a crazy- smart balance thing...where the crazy has won out ?
    Or....did it happen recently?
    Do you really want this nutbag anywhere near the Whitehouse ?

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/20/2008
    - pithymaxim I'm a Fan of pithymaxim 9 fans permalink

    "raised eyebrows and wide eyes.."

    probably too much BOTOX and multiple midface and eyelifts.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 04/20/2008
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    Duh!!! But thanks anyway!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 04/20/2008
    - Bluedog12 I'm a Fan of Bluedog12 11 fans permalink

    I'm shocked, shocked I must say!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 04/20/2008
    - ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 238 fans permalink
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    The sole purpose of the ABC debate was to incite fear and doubt in the minds of undecided voters, much like the 3am ad before the Ohio and Texas primaries. Maybe Bill will appear on Limbaugh again tomorrow.

    Clinton is employing some decidedly Republican tactics. The ABC debate, as well as her abhorrent scolding of Democratic 'activists' represent her desire to appeal to the base of the Democratic party. I don't know about you, but to me the term 'base' refers to voters who are so blinded by allegiance to a particular party that they forfeit their right to think independently.

    And I know this entire post will be dismissed by many as the illogical ravings of an Obamabot, but it is impossible to make a reasoned and substantive argument in defense of Hillary Clinton. I'm sorry, but it's true. As a liberal, I'm tired of having to make rhetorical concessions in order to make my views more palatable to the mainstream.

    I support gay marriage, the legalization of marijuana, universal health care, gun control and other communist-secular progressive-card carrying ACLU policies. I am an atheist, too. F**k you if you think that I am unAmerican because of my beliefs. I'm proud of my positions and I will defend them till my last breath!!!!

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 04/20/2008
    - partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

    As has been true thoughout this campaign, Obama states a clear position, which Clinton and a compliant media then distort and attack, and evetually the FACTS come out and affirm Obama, and further reveal Clinton's dishonesty.

    Voters are waking up to the Clintons' lies, and media distortions.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 04/20/2008
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    It took people long enough to wake up to Hillary, I had her pegged about 18 debates ago.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 04/20/2008
    - missjabez I'm a Fan of missjabez 18 fans permalink
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    Good, JP. The more people who catch on to Hillary the better.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 04/20/2008

    I had her pegged about 18 YEARS ago.

        Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/20/2008
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