Michael Moore Endorses Obama, Calls Clinton Tactics "Disgusting"

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First Posted: 04-21-08 10:02 AM   |   Updated: 04-29-08 05:12 AM

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Michael Moore endorses Obama in a commentary on his site:

[O]ver the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!


This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!

Yes, Senator Clinton, that's how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can't win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry "Uncle (Tom)" and give it all to you.

But that can't happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.

How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come -- but it won't be you. We'll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn't ready, or he's voted wrong on this or that. But that's looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what's going on is bigger than him at this point, and that's a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.

Michael Moore endorses Obama in a commentary on his site: [O]ver the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I gue...
Michael Moore endorses Obama in a commentary on his site: [O]ver the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I gue...
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Michael, thank you for those last four paragraphs. They are brilliant and I agree wholeheartedly with you. Obama has become a movement, and I certainly look forward the current governor of the state of Kansas to be our first lady president. What Senator Obama and the current governor of Kansas will bring to the White House is a long needed sense of personal class and dignity. You are a great guy and great American. May God always bless you.

Native born Angelino/Californian expatriate in Mexico City

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 04/21/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

Larry King was falling all over himself interviewing Hillary Clinton, I would like to know who is going to ask her the hard questions about Bill Clinton and the fact that he is working behind the scenes making HUGE money promoting trade deals which Hillary "says" she is against. Is this not a conflict of interest to have a presidential candidate's husband being paid by government official from other countries to push throug deals with are distructive for the American people. Why is no one asking her why she was okay with Bill Clinton taking millions of dollars from Chinese official, when she, Hillary is on t.v. saying that China is a terrible government which needs to change their human rights record. Why is it then that she has no problem with her husband work with Chinese business men and receiving millions of dollars for their bank personal bank accounts. Why is no one asking about Mark Penn, and why he was not fired, and why is Hillary not asked why she still accepts lobbyist money, if she doesn't think this to is a conflict of interest issue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 04/21/2008
- kcjc I'm a Fan of kcjc permalink

Aww....Hill must have been pretty good on Larry King.....GO HILLARY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 04/21/2008

Bill clinton speaks you decide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo7fIPW8Tu0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/21/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

What TV Show is Sen. Obama on tonight?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 04/21/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

Not Keith Olberman, because thats where you will find Shillary lying her way through questions about her disgusting fear monger ad that is bent on scaring the pants off of weak kneed voters (of which there are plenty).

You will fin Obama on the Daily Show, hopefully making Jon and the rest of us laugh, laugh mongering his way to the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/21/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Ok. Thankz

She is on Larry King now

Lord i pray this child gets no more than a 10% margin of victory

Because for a person who was up 25% and this is her turf, a less than 10% victory will be sad

Hardly will get any delegates

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/21/2008

Yeah, making us laugh like we did in junior high....because he is so mature...just like when he thought he was cool giving the finger to HIllary during his speech in NC on Wed. He is such a funny, funny, childish man....and the whole gang laughed right a long with him...it was so much fun. I remember when W gave the finger...we all laughed at that also. I was hoping for another POTUS just like W that can make the whole world laugh at us again and again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 04/21/2008
- Gilda I'm a Fan of Gilda 7 fans permalink
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Thank you Michael Moore.

Maybe your next doc will focus on the secrets and sham marriage of the Clintons? How did
this couple's martial union become tied to the love of power and grifting the American public.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 04/21/2008

And Gilda we all know that their marriage should be an open book and maybe throw in some home sex tapes just for you to enjoy....because we all know that IS your business. I think all Americans should go public with what happens behind closed doors and we could make a reality tv show out of it. Why is their marriage so fascinating to people?? I see fat men with really skinny women, or skinny men with really fat women and wonder about them...what did they see in each other...what was it...but I can look at Bill and Hillary and see two extremely intellectual people that share a passion for politics and devoting their lives to making a difference and I honestly never wondered what their marriage is all about . Maybe if you keep your eyes open next time you check out at the grocery store you will come across some tasty gossip about them and your life will be complete.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/21/2008
- Nancyann I'm a Fan of Nancyann 6 fans permalink

The Clintons are frauds in every way !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 04/21/2008
- dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

Yeah, I bet you can't wait to watch that movie. How obsessed are you with HATING the Clintons?

How sad. Get some therapy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 04/21/2008
- Tyrione I'm a Fan of Tyrione 44 fans permalink
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Michael Moore has a history of backing losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/21/2008

Its 2008, Its BARACK OBAMA... his luck is about to change ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 04/21/2008
- Mum I'm a Fan of Mum 36 fans permalink

Whose luck?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 04/22/2008
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Michael Moore has a history of being RIGHT! The Democratic party has a nasty habit of nominating colorless losers like the "competent" Michael Dukakis, the wooden Al Gore, The deadly dull Walter Mondale, all because chickensh!t democrats outsmarted themselves by voting for the most "electable" democrat, as if electibility was a consequence of being the most bland.

For the record I voted for all those losers, but I wasn't happy about it. Obama has the Charisma and the fundraising. Hillary doesn't have a chance. Too many people know her. We don't like what we see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/21/2008
- Chuckwheat I'm a Fan of Chuckwheat 10 fans permalink
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When Hillary wins in Nov. will you be one of those millions of Americans needed to stand up to Corporate America? You are needed, regardless of who wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/21/2008
- KINOKO I'm a Fan of KINOKO 5 fans permalink

At this rate, she won't even win her Senate seat back (hopefully....she sure does nothing here in New York but name post offices and make underhanded deals with Preachers such as Calvin Butts in Harlem). Good riddance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/21/2008
- Shozen I'm a Fan of Shozen 9 fans permalink

So does the Democratic Leadership Counsel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/21/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

Like who.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/21/2008
- Mum I'm a Fan of Mum 36 fans permalink

Yes. . . . who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 04/22/2008
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Way to go, Michael. I've been waiting for your endorsement of Obama. I would have really been disappointed if you had supported Hillary!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 04/21/2008

Way to go Michael? As a supporter of Obama you have ruined all the respect I have had for you. The reasons you state are because Hillary used the "F" word (Farakhan). It didn't have anything to do with the causes you espouse in your movies. For you it is words not deeds. You can claim you want Universal Healthcare but by supporting Obama, you have exposed your hypocrisy. I own all your books and movies but I will be moving them to the Fiction Section.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/21/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

I guess the guy that has researched the health care issue, more than anyone, certainly more than you-pick Obama. he likes Obama's health care solutions better and he likes Obama better.

Deal with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/21/2008
- vietveter I'm a Fan of vietveter 23 fans permalink

call the WHA mbulance

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 04/21/2008

Moore originally supported Edwards because of Edwards views on healthcare and fighting poverty. If I remember correctly he does not think that either Obama or Clinton are doing enough in these areas. However, at some point you have to choose one over the other.

I want my job to earn me a million bucks. Am I a hypocrite for working for less? Basically that is what you are saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 04/21/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 354 fans permalink
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One of our most loyal, outspoken, members of our party, feeling as disgusted as millions others, with this woman. She has brought disgrace to herself, and to our party.
The legacy of the Clintons: Monica Lewinsky and Hillary Clinton, the Republican look alike.
Having an ad with Bin-Laden tops the cake. She voted for a war that gave a pass to Bin-Laden, in order to go after Sadaam. Is she this shameless?
I hope that really soon she exits the stage. Tired of her face, and her lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 04/21/2008

It's a good thing that it doesn't take one person to crown a winner in this election and we depend of the millions of Americans that participate in voting. I think the millions that have voted and shown support to Hillary are not in agreement with you Rosal. In case you have missed the whole turn of events, she is only 700, 000 votes behind BO and that isn't even the size of a large city in the US. I can't think of one person who would "exit the stage" with those kind of numbers and it certainly won't be because you are tired of looking at her face or calling her a liar. And last time I checked, Rosal, there are millions of "our most loyal, outspoken, members of our party" that don't feel disgusted with this woman and she hasn't brought disgrace to herself or to "our" party in my eyes....or several MILLIONS of others that belong to "our" party. BO and his minions do not own a larger percent of the Democratic party or this country over the other party members who participate and vote...I can think of a few million in MI and FL who would really disagree with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 04/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

You are mistaken about the numbers. Please use facts.

The 700k excludes four states that Obama won. Does this not matter to you? Or do we begin to see why you support Clinton- b/c you approve of changing rules and cheating to win?

"Popular vote" is a bogus number - you cannot combine caucus and primary numbers as they draw different turn outs. And you would sorely be lacking in logic if you imagined that an inaccurate and uncounted number that has to be "guessed" should hold more weight then the legitimate and carefully tabulated results of voting. The pledged delegate are proportionately awarded according to population, yes? They -are- the best reflection of "popular" vote. And Obama is has an insurmountable lead.

One of the reasons people feel she is a disgrace is because she is trying to change the rules (to popular vote or w/e) after she's lost, and is trying to cheat to win.

Does it occur to you, then, that she doesn't disgrace YOU b/c you bought into and applaud her attempts to change the rules and cheat to win?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/21/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

I just saw Hillary on Countdown. If she had been Pinnochio, her nose would have reached from Pennsylvaia to the Moon, Alice. And when Olberman really backed her into the corner about Richard Melonhead Whatever, she cackled like she was going to lay an egg. Does she always cackle when she's lying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 04/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

I think so, its really quite obvious, isn't it?

You should have seen when someone asked her about the 800k her hub got from Colombia. She cackled like that for a good minute and ahlf straight, and then couldn't come up with anything better than "do angels dance on the head of a pin". It was quite illuminating.

I risked divorce to watch it (my hub, who is normally easygoing, LOUDLY objected when I put it on! LMAO he seriously was appalled I made him listen to her talk at ALL) and i thought Keith laid down for her and let her get away with double speaking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/21/2008
- Nancyann I'm a Fan of Nancyann 6 fans permalink

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THNING TO WATCH HER CAM[IGN IMPLODING !!!! COULDN'T HAPPEN TO A MORE UNETHICAL POLITICIAN !!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 04/21/2008
- dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

I just have one question. Was Keith's lips still on Obama's buttocks, when he cornered Hillary into that corner with his intense, journalistic questioning???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 04/21/2008
- Mum I'm a Fan of Mum 36 fans permalink

And what kind of questioning would you have had him use - non-journalistic? Isn't that the kind of questioning you would expect from someone who hosts a news program? And I believe he was interviewing her by satellite feed. It's really hard to "corner" someone when they are not in the same room. As for where his lips were, that's your obsession, not mine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 04/22/2008
- sushi27 I'm a Fan of sushi27 12 fans permalink

I usually think he's a little too overboard, but in this case he's on the money. Obama has so few things to criticize, so Hillary twists, turns and outright lies about any association he has or doesn't have - not very becoming, but certainly in line with her tendency to not tell the truth.

I too was once a Hillary fan and am sooooo saddened by her behavior - I am embarrassed for her.

Oh yes, the reference to Kansas and the possiblity of a woman running for president - with him all the way - she would be great and could carry red and blue states!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 04/21/2008

the pertinent reasons as a Michigander and supporter of universal health care to support Hillary arethat:

1. You are Michigander and Barack doesn't want to count your vote (either from the primary, where his campaign did ask people to vote uncommitted after he couldn't get back on the ballot or as a re-vote) . When asked by a Michigander (before the re-vote issue was decided), "when can I vote for you?" He said, "in the general election."

2. You are a proponent for universal healthcare - HIllary will get us closest to that goal, and possibly to that goal if everyone opts for the Medicaid-like option. Obama talked the talk in 2007 but has since changed his mind and experts in the field say that what he has done will block universal healthcare until the next president after him.

Thus, if you think everyone should have a voice in this primary and that universal health care is a good idea, you should endorse Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 04/21/2008
- DinOhio I'm a Fan of DinOhio 2 fans permalink

Vote in Michigan - Hillary voted for the DNC rules that kept Michigan's primary vote to count. This is fact.

Universal Health Care - Hillary screwed it up the first time she took a shot at it. This is fact. Her plan has NO chance to gain Congressional approval. Her plan would penalize those least able to afford health care with additional costs in penalties and fines.

If you care to think at all, you should endorse Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/21/2008
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She's a lying......(fill in the blank)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/21/2008
- KINOKO I'm a Fan of KINOKO 5 fans permalink

1. I don't believe you.

2. Which "Experts" are you refering to? Or do you quote the same "Experts" most Clintonistas quote...the invisible ones?

The only healthcare "goal" Hillary will get us close to is one where those Americans who cannot afford or have chosen to opt out of Mandatory health care will either be fined by the US Government for non-compliance, or sued by Uncle Sam in Civil Court. Or sent to Gitmo. Seems like HRC had about 8 years to get us "close to that goal" and couldn't do it. By the time she figures out a workable Canadian-style healthcare plan, I'll be at Walmart shopping for a coffin anyway. And since I do concur that everyone should have a voice in this primary, I will continue to listen to you HRC fanatics ramble on and ruminate on a Presidency that will never be...because eventually you will all go back to hunting white tails, watching the 700 Club, and putting new roofs on your trailers...and will stop trying to get me to endorse a profiteering multi-millionaire who couldn't give a rat's ass about me, you, or anyone who isn't increasing her already vast wealth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/21/2008

Did you see 'Sicko'?
Draw a line between Clinton's money from the health care industry, and her health plan. It FORCES me to give a corrupt system my money. (who's given her money 1st) There's nothing in her plan about not letting insurance people make my medical decisions. There's no incentive for the health care industry to lower cost or expand coverage. But she's going to FORCE me to give them my money?

Obama's plan is simple. Lower the cost with some subsidies. And if the health care industry still doesn't want to play ball, create a government plan to compete against them. That'll force them to play ball. In a government plan, your guaranteed decent coverage at a guaranteed lower price.

Moore is right. Obama is closer when it comes to healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 04/22/2008
- hawkeye58 I'm a Fan of hawkeye58 2 fans permalink

I am not a Michael Moore fan but when he is right, he is right, and in this case, he is right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 04/21/2008
- Alessan I'm a Fan of Alessan 2 fans permalink

He's wrong if the reason is because Clinton connected Obama to Farrankan via his preacher. Obama lives in Chicago, that's Farrahans base, and Obama was part of the million man march as were many black men that are not Muslim, because it was about raising black men up, not about anything negative, Farrahan, even claimed to try now bring all people together rather then the
usual separation of the races speech. Problem is the people don't really know who Obama is but
I do know this, he is a really shady charactor, and everyone will find out if he becomes the next President.

Clinton has been fair to Obama, he has not been fair in these negative ads and talking points, he acts as though he's in second place. Obama is a loser, an elistist bourgeois black, whose arrogant attitude is way over the top.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/21/2008
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I do know this, he is a really shady charactor, and everyone will find out if he becomes the next President.

Based on what?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/21/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Are you slow????


Do you know that Hillary started being negative first after her sorry A** lost Super Tuesday

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 04/21/2008
- Shozen I'm a Fan of Shozen 9 fans permalink

Shady is as Shady does.... Tell me about the Mr Penn character who was in a direct conflict of interest regarding a significant policy issues between a campaign he is running and his personal business. Clinton should have kicked him out the door, but only "demoted" him. There that Husband with a direct conflict of interest with his wifes campaign policy position and his fund raising for free trade issues with the Columbian Government. Then there are those lies regarding Bosnia and Northern Ireland coming from the candidate herself. If Clinton were any more shady, night goggles wouldn't even work!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 04/21/2008
- Mum I'm a Fan of Mum 36 fans permalink

Please . . . enlighten us. Since the "problem" is that "people don't really know who Obama is," but apparently you DO know that he is a "really shady charactor (sic)," please provide us with your insight and information. If you love your country, why would you wait until he becomes the president before you let us know. Of course the fact that you think that Senator Clinton's campaign has been fair to Senator Obama makes me seriously question your judgment. And how is it possible to be both elitist (not elistist) AND bourgeois?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 04/22/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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ONE THING IS CERTAIN MIKE OLDE BOY.

IF HILLARY DON'T GET ELECTED SHE CAN'T BRING NATIONAL HEALTH CARE TO THE CONGRESS.

OBAMA ALREADY SAID HE DON'T THINK NATIONAL HEALTH CARE WILL MAKE IT NOW.
SO HE IS NOT GOING TO EVEN TRY. MORE FIXES AND HIGHER COST TO THE POOR.
AMERICANS ARE FIANLLY REALIZING THAT MIDDLE CLASS INCOME IS $280,000 A YEAR.

WHEN I SAY POOR I MEAN ALL THOSE MAKING LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT. AT LEAST HILLARY KNOW HOW THE REPUBLICANS AND THE HMO'S WORK AND SHE CAN FIGHT THEM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 04/21/2008
- DinOhio I'm a Fan of DinOhio 2 fans permalink

You are so uniformed it is unreal. You have totally misrepresented Obama's position. You've been fed a feast of crap from the Clinton campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/21/2008
- NJ13 I'm a Fan of NJ13 2 fans permalink

Sen. Obama has in no way backed off his plans to bring universal healthcare to all Americans. I am not sure from what source you received that misinformation, but it is wrong.

Furthermore, it is more probable that Sen. Clinton would throw her healthcare proposals under the bus if it is not politically advantageous to her. Look at her voting record and the positions she took as a NY Senator. Look at her husband’s record and his practices. Do not believe her rhetoric; she will say anything to become president on the backs of working class Americans and we will be the ones to suffer for it.

How would she honestly know what working people are going through? She comes from an affluent family and she and her hubby are worth $100M so how can she really relate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 04/21/2008

If you had any brains, you would know that Hillary Clinton has spent her entire career
helping middle and lower income people. You're a fool, just like the rest of the
Obama supporters., and you're going to ruin our chances of getting universal healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 04/21/2008
- Mum I'm a Fan of Mum 36 fans permalink

Thank you, NJ13.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 04/22/2008

Fight them? Accoerding to John Edwards, no ones taken more money from the healthcare lobby than Clinton. That was Edwards, not Obama.

Still think she'd 'fight them' after they paid for her campaign?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/22/2008

As the Writer/Producer/Director of Sicko, have you spoken to the universal healthcare and healthcare people about Hillary versus Obama's healthcare plans?

A. Those who support universal health care know that Obama's plan and tactic regarding how to get there will keep us from the goal of universal healthcare until the president after him, if Obama is elected.

See my article:
http://www.hillaryforhealth.com/2008/03/obamas-poor-judgement-on-healt.htm

The difference between the plans could well be the difference between achieving universal health coverage -- a key progressive goal -- and falling far short.

Under the Hillary plan, everyone will be able to afford coverage, Noted health expert Ken Thorpe of Emory University concluded.

The Obama plan would leave 9- 15 million people out (because they would opt out by not buying insurance), which drives up costs because everyone else ends up subsidizing their emergency care.

The Clinton-type plan would cost $2,700 per newly insured person, an Obama-type plan would cost $4,400.

B. Obama pulling a swiftboat! He is lying about Hillary's plan.
His campaign ads on Saturday in PA.
"What's she not telling you about her health care plan? It forces everyone to buy insurance even if you can't afford it."

He did it back in Feb, got called on it. And keeps doing. He is preying on people's fears of universal healthcare.

check out the lead article on:
http://www.hillaryforhealth.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 04/21/2008
- onceler I'm a Fan of onceler 11 fans permalink

I'm sorry, but your posting are full of completely bogus information and outright falsehoods. I hope nobody is paying close attention to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 04/21/2008
- mikekev58 I'm a Fan of mikekev58 8 fans permalink

Rather than hurl generalizations, onceler, why not offer some facts to counterbalance sophiamd's assertions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/21/2008
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To be honest BOTH plans are crappy. We need Medicare for all with the Government bing the single payer. For profit hospitals and insurance should be outlawed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 04/21/2008

If you leave out creating a government plan to compete with the health care industry, your right. But, you include competition from the government...that's a different ball game. That's part of Obama's plan. How could anyone want to be forced to give their money to a corrupt system (see 'Sicko') with no guarantees that the corruption will cease?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 04/22/2008

As a Michigander, you should be upset with Obama because:

A. Obama doesn't want your your vote in this primary. He said that he would agree to a re-vote in Michigan, if the DNC agreed. The DNC agreed and then Obama told his supporters to vote against it.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/19/obama_lawyer_questions_wisdom.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/clinton.michigan/
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/5/12623/93695

B. Obama chose Iowa and NH over Michigan. His campaign decided to pull out of Michigan b/c he wanted to curry favor with Iowa and NH.
From Taylor Marsh.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26365

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/21/2008
- DinOhio I'm a Fan of DinOhio 2 fans permalink

You've over-simplified a VERY complex situation. Nice try at spin, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 04/21/2008
- onceler I'm a Fan of onceler 11 fans permalink

Tayor Marsh is NOT a credible source of information! I think most people know that these days, but someone needs to tell the so-called doctor above...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 04/21/2008
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oOOH Taylor Marsh, another lying ....
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/21/2008

Oh that's right...Obama made the rules and your candidate fought the ruling from day 1 because she was soooooo concerned about your vote!!!! NOT!!!!!!! WAKE-UP!!!!! Her fake outrage has gotten you spoofed.

If Bush wanted a re vote in 2004 Ohio and said Haliburton will fund and count the votes...would you be good with that? If so, move to a Banana Republic and your wish will come true. If not, then why is it ok with you that Clinton wants to do the same thing in Mich & Fla?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 04/22/2008
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