On Course For Another White Guy Election

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First Posted: 04-22-08 10:30 AM   |   Updated: 06-25-08 05:17 PM

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Hillary Clinton's release Monday of her first Osama bin Laden ad sets the stage for a general contest that Republicans could only dream about: an election fought over issues of patriotism, 1960s radicalism, liberal elites, gun control, terrorist threats, intimidation by a black preacher, and a 3AM phone call signaling enemy attack.

With the bin Laden spot, Clinton has set the stage for an election in which a crucial voting block will once again be white men, and the issues will be those that tend to push these voters to the right, towards the Republican Party, regardless of which Democrat is the nominee.

Clinton has intensified her challenge to Obama with the bin Laden commercial in Pennsylvania, directly questioning his fortitude and strength in the face of foreign aggression.

As still photos of World War II, Franklin Roosevelt, Nikita Khrushchev, Fidel Castro, gas lines of the 1970s, and, most importantly, bin Laden flash across the TV screen, the announcer declares:

"It's the toughest job in the world.

"You need to be ready for anything - especially now, with two wars, oil prices skyrocketing and an economy in crisis.

"Harry Truman said it best - if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

"Who do you think has what it takes?

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"I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message."

With some help from Obama, Clinton has been putting together a package redolent of historic 'wedge' issues -- Willie Horton, Dukakis and the M-I tank, Kerry windsurfing, and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

The Democrats have huge advantages going into the 2008 election: a discredited Bush administration, continued distrust of Republicans in Congress, a teetering economy, and an unpopular war. The party may well be able to survive the current debate and take the White House on January 20, 2009, but the backward-looking wedge issue strategy poses risks.

Clinton has been the driving force in pushing the campaign rightward, but Obama has been complicit in his own way, as his faltering answers to questions on these subjects have served to keep them alive.

Six months ago, on October 4, 2007, Obama dealt with a question about his decision not to wear a flag pin on his lapel deftly and forthrightly.

"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin....Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest... Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism."

During the April 16 ABC debate in Philadelphia, however, his answer to a similar question was long, hesitant, and convoluted -- a 388 word "blood in the water" answer, the kind that attracts sharks:

"Well, look, I revere the American flag. And I would not be running for president if I did not revere this country. This is -- I would not be standing here if it wasn't for this country. And I've said this -- again, there's no other country in which my story is even possible. Somebody who was born to a teenage mom, raised by a single mother and grandparents from small towns in Kansas, you know, who was able to get an education and rise to the point where I can run for the highest office in the land, I could not help but love this country for all that it's given me.


And so, what I've tried to do is to show my patriotism by how I treat veterans when I'm working in the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee; by making sure that I'm speaking forcefully about how we need to bring this war in Iraq to a close, because I think it is not serving our national security well and it's not serving our military families and our troops well; talking about how we need to restore a sense of economic fairness to this country, because that's what this country has always been about, is providing upward mobility and ladders to opportunity for all Americans.

That's what I love about this country. And so I will continue to fight for those issues. And I am absolutely confident that during the general election, that when I'm in a debate with John McCain, people are not going to be questioning my patriotism; they are going to be questioning, how can you make people's lives a little bit better? And let me just make one last point on this issue of the flag pin. As you've noted, I wore one yesterday when a veteran handed it to me, who himself was disabled and works on behalf of disabled veterans.

I have never said that I don't wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins. This is the kind of manufactured issue that our politics has become obsessed with and, once again, distracts us from what should be my job when I'm commander-in-chief, which is going to be figuring out how we get our troops out of Iraq and how we actually make our economy better for the American people."

The constellation of issues that Clinton has been raising -- and that Obama, in varying degrees, has been vulnerable on -- establish dominant campaign themes that have proven ideal for Republicans over the past 40 years (think of Hubert Humphrey in 1968, George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 1980, Michael Dukakis in 1988 and John Kerry in 2004). In each of those elections, a crucial demographic group leading the charge to GOP victory was white men.

With only minor differences between Obama and Clinton this year on such pro-Democratic subjects as health care, public sector investment and tax policy, Clinton has felt compelled to make the case that Obama would be a fatally flawed nominee in the general election.

To do so, she and her aides have pounded relentlessly on Obama's liabilities among conservative and centrist voters.

The Clinton forces have stressed the statements of Obama's preacher, Jeremiah Wright; Obama's cocaine use in his youth; the support he received from former members of the 1970s Weather Underground; his failure to wear an American flag; and his 'disparaging' comments on the religious and moral views of small town Pennsylvanians.

In Monday's Christian Science Monitor reporter Linda Feldmann wrote:

"The holy grail of the final push for votes in Pennsylvania: white male Democrats. As a group, they are nearly evenly divided between Senator Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama. And individually, white male Democrats express the most ambivalence about the two candidates.


"A recent poll from Temple University in Philadelphia asked likely Democratic voters to rate the favorability of Clinton and Obama on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being most favorable. The contest was closest among white men who gave Clinton an average of 6.4 and Obama 6.9. When only voters over 30 are considered, the numbers get even tighter: 6.5 for Clinton and 6.7 for Obama.

"Pennsylvania's white women, in contrast, clearly are more enthusiastic about Clinton. They give her an average favorability of 7.8, versus 5.9 for Obama."

Insofar as the Democratic contest remains focused on these issues, white men, a driving force in the seven Republican victories out of the last 10 presidential elections, will once again become a -- if not the -- crucial constituency in determining the outcome.

The prominent role of more centrist and conservative white men in the Democratic primary process is confounding to some. Just last year, Democratic political scientist Thomas F. Schaller was breathing a sigh of relief over the prospect that white men were a steadily diminishing factor in the political landscape.

In an essay titled "So long, white boy" published September 17, 2007 on Salon, Schaller wrote:

"The Democratic obsession with the down-home, blue-collar, white male voter, that heartbreaker who crossed the aisle to the Republicans many decades ago, may finally be coming to a merciful end....it's a waste of time and resources for the Democrats to pursue them -- a classic sucker's bet....Democrats finally seem to realize that cultural contortionism in the pursuit of Bubba produces little more than smiles on the faces of Republican consultants."

Two other Democratic analysts, Ruy Teixeira of the Brookings Institution and Emory University's Alan Abramowitz, both agreed that the white working-class vote, both male and female, is declining as a share of the electorate. But that does not mean, they note, that these voters can be cast aside:

"Al Gore...lost white working class voters in the 2000 election by 17 points. And the next Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, did even worse, losing these voters by a whopping 23 points in 2004," wrote Abramowitz and Teixeira in a paper titled "The Decline of the White Working Class and the Rise of a Mass Upper Middle Class."

"[T]hose voters who seem to correspond most closely to one's intuitive sense of the heart of the white working class -- that is, white voters who have a modest income and are non-college-educated -- are precisely the voters among whom Democrats did most poorly. For example, among non-college-educated whites with $30,000-$50,000 in household income, Bush beat Kerry by 24 points (62-38); among college-educated whites at the same income level, Kerry actually managed at 49-49 tie. And among non-college-educated whites with $50,000-$75,000 in household income, Bush beat Kerry by a shocking 41 points (70-29), while leading by only 5 points (52-47) among college-educated whites at the same income level."

Now, in the midst of the 2008 Democratic primary, white men have once again emerged as a crucial, if not key, constituency in the presidential election - a foreboding development for the prospects for Democrats in November.

Hillary Clinton's release Monday of her first Osama bin Laden ad sets the stage for a general contest that Republicans could only dream about: an election fought over issues of patriotism, 1960s radic...
Hillary Clinton's release Monday of her first Osama bin Laden ad sets the stage for a general contest that Republicans could only dream about: an election fought over issues of patriotism, 1960s radic...
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Much ado about nothing.

Due to typical Democratic mismanagement... McCain has already won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 04/23/2008

Cap, you are right on. Neither Madam Clinton or Mr. Obama is electable. And the reason is NOT sexism or racisim. With Madam C. it's the baggage that comes with her tainted history and her perceived willingness to do anything (lie, cheat, steal) to get elected. The "people" just don't like her and they never will. With Mr. O., the main problem is that he just doesn't have ANY executive experience - none at all. In fact, he has very little basic political experience. You don't hire a green kid out of undergraduate school to run a fortune 500 company and the "people" ain't gonna elect an unexperienced neophyte to head up the largest democracy in the world. I wish the Democrats had fielded a female or black candidate that was electable, but it just hasn't happened this time. History, however, has been made - a woman or a black man - one will get the nomination - never before in history. So, it has paved a new road for the future and I think we all can appreciate that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 04/23/2008

What happened? You finally figured out that putting up a bigoted demeaning picture depicting white men as stupid fat idiots was not so smart?

Too late, Huffington Post proved they are no better than Fox news yesterday. Though Im not too surprised bigots and Obama get along very well. Rev. Wright and Donnie McClurkin have already proved that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 04/23/2008

Old school politicians know they can get the majority of Americans to vote against their own best economic interests by distracting them with issues such as lapel pins, flag burning, guns, and religion. They know how to demonize unions so that union members themselves become anti-union.
They're good at defining the horrors of a national health care program, even though insurance plans will offer little protection to those who need it. When as a nation are we going to demand and expect energy independence, health care, improvements in education, and protections against shipping jobs overseas? Right after we get that lapel pin issue nailed down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 04/23/2008

Hey! I think I figured out why Obama bowled a 37-- he used his left hand! It's like that scene in The Princess Bride ("I know something that you do not... I am NOT left handed!") Just wait until Indiana when he switches hands and bowls 200, baby. It's all coming together....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/23/2008
- Bystander I'm a Fan of Bystander 8 fans permalink

How about simply wanting the best person to win?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 04/23/2008
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So, bald white guys vote for McCain? Oops, sorry!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/23/2008

I see you cowards changed the picture what your true colors were showing ...... guess what that's why Obama got slammed in Pa. You elitist just don't get it ....stop looking down your noses at the rest of us we too are Democrats may not be as educated as you but we have a little more experience living in the real world .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 04/23/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 27 fans permalink

AD-415, its apparent you don't get it. You've been played by the one you support. Living in the "real world is something that would have to be pointed out to you! Hillary and the Republican Media! used that term" Elitist" to see how many " Fools" would fall for such "Nonsense. " Welcome to your real world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/23/2008
- Zenith1959 I'm a Fan of Zenith1959 46 fans permalink
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This is a good example of the mindset of many people. Just before the 2000 election, I was a clerk in a store. A customer mentioned to me that although he really didn't like Bush, he liked to ride motorcycles out on trails, and if Gore was elected he would not be able to do that anymore. I'm just sayin'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 04/23/2008
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Just had to reply.
I had the exact same conversation with a co worker during that time. She was voting for Bush because she was a gun owner and if Al Gore became president, "She wouldn't be able to own a gun anymore...". I asked her what was the point of voting for Bush if she couldn't afford bullets for said gun.
BTW, in 2001 all of our jobs were outsourced to Mexico...but she still has her gun, by george....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/23/2008

If undecided supers go Obama he's won. Do the math - No real need to continue.

Hillary has not had to withstand the 'Swift Boat' express because Barack won't drive it.

You can easily float your own boat.

Hillary in Monica's neglige
Hillary Whitewater rafting
My favorite, Hillary shopping at Wal-Mart dressed in her Board member pantsuit where she could have spoken out for healthcare and women's rights. Of the people. Right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 04/23/2008

Maybe it's time for the Huffington Post to apologize for trying to paint all white men as fat stupid racists.

It's past time, actually. That picture proved how bigoted you are. You and Fox News are starting to look way to similiar in your tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 04/23/2008
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What? you one of those big fat stupid red neck racists huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 04/23/2008
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America is like a 4 year old.

We vote for liars, drama king/queens. sleazes, torturers, corruption, war, bigotry, and the past. We have voted for sacrificing our children to Iraq, and Afghanistan. We vote for screwing our children out of a safe and clean planet. After all, we'll be gone when they'll have to deal with it. WE have lost our vision and moral compass. We do not have the balls our fore fathers had in establishing what was a great nation.

Mark my words, we are NOT on the path to return to greatness and respect in the world. We WILL decay to be a 2nd class world citizen. Corporations will continue to create a substandard economy, third rate education, and a elite aristocracy (BUSH and Clinton). They will continue to suck the life out our economy with our permission. After all we get what we elect.

Why ? Because we can't handle the TRUTH and then ACT on it. Most 4 year olds can't. What are going to do? Keep paying through the nose ...get another job....certainly not kick the BUMS out.

We WILL continue to whine about 4+ dollar gas but do nothing. Big oil/auto knows this because we are addicts. We WILL not get healthcare reform and the system knows it. We have too many politicians feeding on PAC and lobbyist money. China knows this and they poison our children with impunity.

We are as we vote America needs a 12 step program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 AM on 04/23/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 27 fans permalink

ATruthBeKnown: You are so right!! and you said it so well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 04/23/2008

As an Obama supporter, I am not as upset about the loss of PA. I have traveled across western PA over a 15 year period. I am not surprised at all.

I am surprised by the amount of support Obama has been able to get across the country. I have been shocked by the number of states, the number of people, and just wide span of financial support. I never thought in my lifetime I would see the day that it would be possible a half white/black man would be able to run and succeed.

That being said, the movement that surrounds Obama gives me hope in the pluralism ideals America has. I enjoyed the hope phase Obama employed throughout the first few months of this year. I hope that phase turns into 'I am fighting for our ideals America.' As he gets blamed for the race card and marked as a race baiter by the Clintons (see Bill's comments today) and later Republican operatives openly call him into question as a second class member of American society, I hope the movement steps in and topples the real purveyors of intolerance in our society.

As we continue to hear what segments aren't ready, I hope we tell them yes we can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 04/23/2008
- Gould123 I'm a Fan of Gould123 10 fans permalink

Genna; People don't seem to understand that the Independents in Pennsylvania cannot vote in the primary. Given the fact independents are leaning about 80% to Obama--------Her lead there would havebeen probally only 6 to 7%. That is wonderful for Obama, given just ssix short weeks ago her lead was26% over him! Plus this article is right in one way, Pennsylvania makes up a lot of Old white men and even women of Hillarys age! Now we go into Indiana, and S. Carolina. Indiana is a toss up! But, my guess real close, and Hillary gains nothing! I look for S. Carolina to do Hillary in once and for all! Both states has a record amount of young people, and black that generaly leans to Obama more. Those who believe she won in Pennsylvania-----------Don't understand in fact it was a wonderful night for Obama to lose the Oldest state and a Hillary state by only 10 % and really not even that much given the fact that Independent votes would have given her even less and that is good for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 04/23/2008

First the good news! Obama received votes in every county. Things are looking up.
The bad news is that he didn't get enough to end this slugfest before I lose all respect for the Clintons.

We disparage college educated liberals. Why are we working so hard to send our children to college if it does not improve them in some way? Living long gives everybody experience. That experience may be equally good or bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 04/23/2008

Conservative Democrats, independents, and progressive Republicans win general elections. Unfortunately for Obama, these are EXACTLY the people Clinton has targeted and successfully courted. They are also the same bloc that carried the democratic party the last time Democrats were actually able to take the White House.

Obama's campaign has done a great job of painting Clinton and her supporters as neocons. Problem: those were the people who were going to get him elected if he came out of the primary. NOT the solid liberal bloc that the Democrats have every single election.

The real solution now is the one neither side seems willing discuss is to split the ticket to try to preserve as many supporters as possible and alienate few. The polls are not lying on this point. Almost half of the supporters of either candidate will drop their support if the other is elected. The fact that this has not already been done honestly begs the leadership ability of both candidates and the Democratic party in general.

If I were Howard Dean, I would lock myself in a room with both of them and not come out until one is willing to take the VP job for this cycle. It's not like you can tell me this would disenfranchise the voters when the Florida and Minnesota ballots have already been discarded because of an action the state party took. Apparently THAT was O.K. for the good of the party. Don't tell me this wouldn't be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 04/23/2008

It is not half. It is more like 10%.

If supporters geniunely believe that the other candidate is pure evil, self-absorbed and doesn't care how she wins so long as she wins,

Then won't it be hard to convince the supporters that that other candidate should be a heart beat away from the presidency?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 04/23/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

There will never be a "DREAM TICKET". Even if all the mudslinging had never taken place. Both would need someone else to balance their ticket. It was never a possibility and it is even less of one now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 04/23/2008

Any of you younsters who are sincere in comprehending the widely shared punditry and mastery of the science of pesophology that has become an American parlor game should concern themselves learning and understanding of the average Pennsylvanian American!

Take it from an old timer and watch the flick "The Deer Hunter" with deniro and Myrle Streep!

These are the real americans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 04/22/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

H. L. Menken - as one who was born and raised in "Deer Hunter "territory - they are not necessarily "real americans - but they certainly are a breed of some americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/23/2008

Oh this is rich --

My first comment was censored into oblivion and now the whole story is sent down the memory hole. I'm glad I saved a screenshot. Huffington Post showed the true colors of this campaign -- and you learned real quick that it's not just the white men and women in Pennsylvania who see the racism of Obama and his supporters, it's white people across the country and the web as well.

Too bad you took the offense down -- it would have good for the white people who have been duped by Obama's "new politics" to see just how much respect Obama and his supporters care to afford them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 04/22/2008

The photo they used was a disgrace. But it showed their true colors. Bigotry reigns supreme at Huffington Post. The folks over at Fox must be real proud of how Arianna has adopted their tactics as her own. (don't expect an apology, Huff just took the picture down and hopes everyone forgets about it).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 04/23/2008

nah we won't forget the toothpaste is already out of the tube..... you know that bitter tasting toothpaste lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 04/23/2008

Yeah, Wayneswhirled --

Can you imagine the shouts to the rooftops if a Clinton support site showed gangbangers wearing hoodies and holding Mac-10's sneering at the camera with their gold teeth and the story was headlined:

"Another win for Obama: this time in black Philly"...?

That would make Headline News!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/23/2008

Sir if your analysis is correct Obama should drop out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 04/22/2008

Note: when supers go Obama it's over. Do the math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/23/2008
- Gould123 I'm a Fan of Gould123 10 fans permalink

Pennsylvania could have ended this, but given independents couldn't vote untill Novenber, this really wasn't a win for Hillary at all! She can't seem to pick up the independents , and given he icked up 16% in only six weeks away from her in votes in Pennsylvania tells you he can and does pick off her base of support every where he goes! She's had 20 years to astablish these bases in these states------------He's had only one year and in some states like pennsylvania only six weeks for the people there to get to know him! So her very short margin win is more of a win for Obama than it is herself. So, Obama people don't be unhappy, be happy that he successfully stole 16% of her voteing base in only six weeks. Look what he did in Nebr. a mostely white, farming state full of old people that Hillary hadn't astablished herself in for the last 20 years! Nebr. came out for Obama on over 60%. So take heart people and start pointing to these facts-------not others! Hillary Clinton lost 16% of her voteing base she had going into this election! That's a lot of lose for a state that was suppose to be all hers at around 66% just months ago!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/23/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

Why would the winner drop out - because H. L. Mencken relates americans to "Deer Hunter" americans. I think not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 04/23/2008
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