Flag Pins: Who Wears 'Em?

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First Posted: 04-23-08 09:11 AM   |   Updated: 05- 1-08 05:12 AM

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There's been much ado about flag pins lately — who wears them, who doesn't, and whether that means you are patriotic enough to be president. Last week during ABC's now-infamous debate, moderators Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulous included this question from totally random Pennsylvanian Nash McCabe:

"Senator Obama, I have a question, and I want to know if you believe in the American flag. I am not questioning your patriotism, but all our servicemen, policemen and EMS wear the flag. I want to know why you don't."

Nope, no questioning of the patriotism at all! Gibson followed up wondering, "How do you convince Democrats that this would not be a vulnerability?" Because clearly, wearing a flag pin is an excellent indication that you are patriotic, and the non-wearing of said pin is a sure indication of your scorn for the flag. Since this keeps on popping up again and again, ETP decided to look at a random day in the news cycle (pre-primary Monday) and see just how patriotic the media, candidates, and various people orbiting the campaign actually are — and who wears their hatred of America as surely as an unencumbered lapel.

We'll start with Fox News, because some people on that network were particularly exercised after Obama explained in October 2007 that he didn't wear a flag pin, instead aspiring to do patriotic acts that spoke for themselves:

Talk about your Fox and Friends! We've got the whole gang here...and three of them don't hate America! Fox is the winner in flag pinnery, with the small metallic symbol of pride glimmering on the manly chests of Brit Hume, Neil Cavuto and special analyst Karl Rove, who has lots of opinions on the subject. But that still leaves people like Steve Doocy, Greta Van Sustern, Sean Hannity, Megyn Kelly, Jenna Lee, Alisyn Camerota and two guys I can't name from Fox Business flag-less. You'd expect no less from Alan Colmes, really, but golden boy Shep Smith? What's the opposite of a patriot, Bill O'Reilly? Oh, right. Note that Chris Wallace has previously said that he sort of agrees with Obama's flag-pin theory; we bet Brian Kilmeade would find that reasonable.

Well, what about the godless liberals at MSNBC, and their NBC brethren?

Wow, a clean sweep; that is to say, 0 for the random 14 we selected. (Thanks to "Race for the White House" for inspiring our montage design!). Bill O'Reilly could have told you so. Sorry, Brian Williams — that Peabody will only get you so far. Same goes for you, former Congressman Joe Scarborough and former Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan and other people orbiting David Gregory's head. For shame.

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MSNBC may be locked in a ratings race with CNN, but they clearly lose the flag pin race, thanks to patriot Lou Dobbs. See below:

Lou Dobbs is taking no chances on that flag thing, btw — wearing it on you is made that much more patriotic by having it waving around you as a lofty backdrop (though to be fair, that gives the MSNBC "Morning Joe" crew a lift thanks to the background visuals of Rock Center in the a.m.). But otherwise, it's a fairly rag-tag bunch — John Roberts may be excused because he's Canadian, and Joe Klein's just in there because he looks so damn excited, but pride-of-network Anderson Cooper? Bearer of tradition Larry King? Stalwart defender of truth and justice Nancy Grace? Hey John King, what does your Magic Wall have to say about the demographic of Americans Who Hate America And Prove It By Not Wearing A Flag Pin? Yeah. We thought so. As for you, Glenn Beck — we really thought you cared. It must have been that book cover where you eat California.

Back to the standard-bearers, then: Do Gibson and Stephanopoulos put their money where their lapel is? Survey says:

No flaggar! That's how the Swedes would say it, or close to how the Swedes would say it, but the upshot is the same: No flags. What does that say about the patriotism of ABC? Charlie Gibson, how do you convince other networks that this won't be a vulnerability? I know, I know, we added CBS in there — they both have complementary gold-tinged motifs, it just made sense — and besides, none of them are wearing a pin so who cares either way? Besides, adding a pin to Diane Sawyer would make her look less like an Oscar.

Well, what about the true patriots? Sure, the other candidates, but actually, I mean the true patriots:

...Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, obvs — and nary a flag in sight. (Though Colbert is sporting his WristStrong bracelet). What does that tell you about the flag pin, if a patriot like Colbert wears his lapel bare? Well, it tells John McCain and Hillary Clinton that they don't have to bother pretending to love this country, either. Same goes for surrogates (David Axelrod), runners-up (Mike Huckabee) and people who appear in that "I'm 4 New York!" ad (Alec Baldwin). But I would have expected better from the Pope.

Upshot: What does all this mean? That the whole flag-pin wearing thing is ridiculous — a personal choice, just like most other things in this great and democratic country, terrific if you choose to wear it and just as terrific if instead you choose to show your love of country and fellow countrymen and women through your actions, of which wearing a flag pin is but one? Seems that way to me — but what do I know, I'm Canadian.

Thanks to Dipayan Gupta for the assistance with photo upload.

There's been much ado about flag pins lately — who wears them, who doesn't, and whether that means you are patriotic enough to be president. Last week during ABC's now-infamous debate, moderator...
There's been much ado about flag pins lately — who wears them, who doesn't, and whether that means you are patriotic enough to be president. Last week during ABC's now-infamous debate, moderator...
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Colbert doesn't need to wear a flag pin. First of all, he has flags all around his studio, and he's even posed for a calendar featuring himself naked and draped in a flag, on a bearskin rug (the only time Stephen would ever go near a bear, when it's dead and adorning his floor).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/25/2008
- w8aminute I'm a Fan of w8aminute 18 fans permalink

I wish they would have included Newt Gingrich in the Fox box - he sure wasn't wearing one in their Christmas Special.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 04/25/2008
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Hey all you Illegal aliens. This could be you ticket to citizenship. Just wear a flag pin.

GWW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/25/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 285 fans permalink
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The irony is, the people who are the most bent out of shape about this Flag Pin nonsense are the ones who have the least understanding of civics, and possess only a cartoonish overview of US History ... and, yes, I include the meat puppets of the MSM.


I think before someone takes umbrage at the lack of a Flag Pin on someone's lapel ... they should at least have working knowledge of the Nation the Flag represents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/24/2008
- mim I'm a Fan of mim permalink

Star-bellied Sneetches, Ravenhawk! As opposed to those who have no stars on thars!

But seriously, if Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos (I forgot who asked the question) called Obama on not wearing a flag pin, then why weren't they wearing flag pins themselves? Why didn't they ask Hillary why she wasn't wearing a flag pin? Everyone on the stage was pinless.

I'm a Christian and where I worship, some wear crosses, others don't. I'm glad no one at church has ever started any "she wears a cross, she doesn't wear a cross" nonsense. When Jesus told his followers to take up the cross he was not referring to jewelry!

And has anyone noticed the repeat of the pinless-Senator strip on Doonesbury? Priceless. I wish the story could have continued, but in RL the Senator's secretary would have come to the Senator's house with a replacement pin. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/24/2008
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Flag Pins: Who gives a flying shit!
I'm from Canada and the we don't feel the need to display a nazi-like zealousness of patriotism at all times. We display patriotism only when it's needed. that's just us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 04/24/2008
- kvass I'm a Fan of kvass 3 fans permalink

except when many canadians go out their country they have that damn maple leaf plastered all over themselves so they won't be mistaken for you know who.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 04/24/2008
- RumiSouth I'm a Fan of RumiSouth 34 fans permalink
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The Chinese. All the flag pins are made in China. This whole thing is a plot to make us all buy more China-made crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 04/24/2008

The flag pin thing is nothing compared to the ‘made in America' lable. Do you realize, the more we see imported retail product in stores across this country, the fewer jobs we have in our manufacturing base. Durable goods made in the US, were good jobs until, they were exported aboard.

And I’m screaming about a pin which is probably made in China.
Didn’t Bill do some business in China some time ago?

But I digress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 04/24/2008

It's time that American's realize that manufacturing jobs are leaving for good and that we shouldn't try to stop it; the economy is changing. Job sectors develop then decline and are replaced by new sectors; instead of fighting it (and reducing the efficiency which, ironically, many of the same peole who are fighting 'outsourcing' claim to value) we need to focus on offering programs and government support to those losing jobs to help them retrain for other jobs. Raise unemployment benefits, improve healthcare and education, offer free job retraining programs, provide incentives for developing new high-tech and service industries; these are the right choices. Clinging to inefficient manufacturing industries that can be done for cheaper elsewhere is fighting the inevitable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 04/25/2008
- moodyring I'm a Fan of moodyring 4 fans permalink
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Nice piece, Rachel, and amusing at the same time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/24/2008
- plafayette I'm a Fan of plafayette 8 fans permalink
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Yes, anyone with half a brain can discern that this whole issue of flag pins is not really about flag pins at all. No one gives a rats ass about this unless you are targeting a person of color...then it becomes a hot button for people suffering from acute racism to whip themselves into a frenzy over it. These subtle tactics are employed to encourage the mob mind in it's collective belief that "he (Obama) is not like us". This is step (1). Step (2) is to suggest that he (Obama) is elitist or aloof which is code for separate from us....Step (3) make sure to engage the person you are smearing - get him (Obama) to begin defending himself so that you can start a fight between him and the people who more and more dislike, despise, and outright hate that uppity so and so. Once the "good ol boys" get it into their heads that they would be doing the "country" a favor...they will attempt to repeat our darkest history. THIS IS WHAT RACISM LOOKS LIKE IN AMERICA. It is very subtle & practiced right in front of your face every day. At it's worst this is the mentality that allowed KKK to burn & lynch at will, and Hitler to steamroll through Europe. KNOW THIS AMERICA .....THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING.. AND WE ARE SAYING NEVER AGAIN. You will not isolate or destroy Sen. Obama. True or false American Media Race Baiting Machine.....WE SEE IT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/24/2008
- Rocky4356 I'm a Fan of Rocky4356 5 fans permalink

I am a vet I wore the uniform -guess week end warriors need to wear a pin. how about getting them to wear the uniform? Does Lou Dobbs stable boys wear the pin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 04/24/2008
- Crowhaul I'm a Fan of Crowhaul 13 fans permalink
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"Required" nationalism in the form of a flag lapel is very reminiscent of Nazi Germany, circa 1935-39.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 04/24/2008
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This reminds me of those Kim pins that everyone in North Korea is required to wear. Congratulations to Barack Obama for being the only candidate this year who is not a closet Commie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 04/24/2008
- BlackJAC I'm a Fan of BlackJAC 68 fans permalink

This whole manufactured controversy about flag pins is a no-win regardless of your political affiliation. I used to have this T-shirt from a company called Mach 1 which was a print of their "Falcon Victory" poster: an F-16 sitting on the tarmac with its nose to the camera and the Stars & Stripes behind it as a background. One weekend I was denounced by both sides of the political divide for wearing it: not only did I get the traditional hippie complaint, a guy in Marine ROTC I was friends with said it was reminiscent of those cheesy "Try Burning This Flag!" shirts and was actually disrespectful to the flag.

I'd simply bought the thing because it had a fighter jet on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 04/24/2008
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I'm wearing my flag boxer shorts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/24/2008
- julieeiluj I'm a Fan of julieeiluj 3 fans permalink

Whooooooooooooo caressssssssssss???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 04/24/2008
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Oh come on Julie, this is a major issue, particularly among those with IQs of under 85!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 04/24/2008
- PerryWhite I'm a Fan of PerryWhite 12 fans permalink

Obama has stated that he reveres the American flag and that he prays to Jesus Christ every night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 04/24/2008
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