McCain opposes equal pay bill in Senate

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LIBBY QUAID | 04/23/08 10:57 PM | AP

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Lisa Workman, of Inez, Ky, greets Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, after a news conference outside the Old Martin County Courthouse, Wednesday, April 23, 2008, in Inez, Kentucky during his "It's Time for Action" campaign tour. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits.

Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had delayed the vote to give McCain's Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, time to return to Washington to support the measure, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination.

McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans.

"I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems," the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. "This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system."

The bill sought to counteract a Supreme Court decision limiting how long workers can wait before suing for pay discrimination.

It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more.

The Supreme Court voted 5-4 last year to throw out her complaint, saying she had waited too long to sue.

Democrats criticized McCain for opposing the bill.

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"Senator McCain has yet again fallen in line with President Bush while middle-class families are falling by the wayside," Clinton said in a statement following the vote. "Women are earning less, but Senator McCain is offering more of the same."

Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney said: "At a time when American families are struggling to keep their homes and jobs while paying more for everything from gasoline to groceries, how on Earth would anyone who thinks they can lead our country also think it's acceptable to oppose equal pay for America's mothers, wives and daughters?"

McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.

"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.

McCain chose to visit the tiny hamlet of Inez, Ky., because it is where President Lyndon B. Johnson declared war on poverty. But McCain said Johnson's poverty programs had failed.

"I wouldn't be back here today if government had fulfilled the promise that Lyndon Johnson made 44 years ago," he said.

In recent weeks, McCain has proposed a series of tax breaks for corporations, doubling the dependent child tax exemption, government-backed refinancing for struggling homeowners and a summer holiday from gas taxes. He proposed another new program Wednesday: a tax write-off for companies that provide high-speed Internet access for underserved, low-income communities.

NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to ...
NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to ...
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- jkpcguru I'm a Fan of jkpcguru 8 fans permalink
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wtf??? McCain is such a damn ass. How can he honestly say that. Better education and training?? that has nothing to do with it. a women could be working the same job with the same credentials and still get paid less than a man. McSame has got to go!

How can any republican woman agree with this guy???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 04/24/2008
- GeoNorth I'm a Fan of GeoNorth 12 fans permalink

McCain is for the status quo. He hates change. In his view, the way things are are the way things are. Who are we to argue with the way things are. Leave the economy alone. It''l work its way out. Equal pay for women? It'll work its own way out. Iraq? Stay a hundred years and it'll work its way out.

It sounds like John McCain is not willing to do anything, so why be president. You can do nothing at home. I for one will give him just what he wants. I will not vote for him. If he won, he'd almost feel compelled to do something and it's obvious that he plans on doing nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 04/24/2008
- zona9 I'm a Fan of zona9 6 fans permalink

Wow. Geo north gets a vote for most ignorant poster of the day. McCain has spent a lifetime fighting for change in a body, bothe Dem. and Rep., that loathes it. How old are? 17?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 04/24/2008
- melonman I'm a Fan of melonman 2 fans permalink

Wow! You beat GeoNorth by a landslide as the most ignorant poster of the day.

McCain has spent a lifetime fighting for change? Yeh, he's a real progressive SOB!

Thanks for the laugh! You made my day!

Don't tell me, you also believe it hasn't been proven that Bush has lied, right? LOL!

You right-wingers are all alike--gullible!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/24/2008
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 79 fans permalink
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"...every day I am forced to add another name to the long list of people who can just kiss my ass."

- elmer fudd

go ahead, elect McCain, then take two steps backward and stay there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 04/24/2008
- 2CoolCats I'm a Fan of 2CoolCats 4 fans permalink
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Well, I guess he's not getting the female vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 04/24/2008
- melonman I'm a Fan of melonman 2 fans permalink

Unfortunately, there are a lot of dumb republican women who vote against their own self-interests everytime they vote republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 04/24/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 62 fans permalink

Actually that is not true for many Republican women. Many are stepford wives who get to stay home and go play tennis, bridge, attend DAR meetings, do charity work so they can appear on the society pages of their local newspapers and feel like hey are contributing to society, attend church activities, go to their psychiatrist apponitments and just basicaly indulge themselves while their husbands go to work, mess around with their hired help, , In fact when they vote Republican, they ARE voting THEIR self interests. I know plenty of them. They always look so stunned when i inform them of how difficult many familiwes with whom I work just barely get by and then they make comments such as "Well, do the parents smoke?" to justify that if the parents smoke, then it is their own darn fault for misusing their money...while they help set up their children;s high school graduation parties ordering the kegs of beer for the underage drinking that will go on out at their farm "where the kids will stay overnight so they don't drink and drive. " For real, this is an actual comment made to me by one upper crust, Hannity loving, straight ticket voting Republican member of my church! A lot of people in both parties vote their own self ( selfish?)interest even Republican voting women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 04/24/2008
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Well John, its time we discuss your future and Shady Pines is a really lovely home..........it has all the amenities for your daily comfort..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 04/24/2008

McCain is all for equal pay so long as there is no way to enforce equal pay under the law. Women need netter education but he will do nothing to help them get it nor will he do anything about child care while they try to get better education. (If this not Jim Crow thinking, I don't know what is.)

He claims that government failed to fulfill LBJs war on poverty promises while stepping around the issue that he has been part of government for decades. So he is a major part of the failure.

He is beginning to make GW Bush look like a deep thinker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/24/2008

Looks like to me he is the one that better get some more "education and training" because every time he opens his mouth he inserts foot. If young Hillary women do not understand that if they vote for this neandrathal dinosaur of a man, their lives will be turned backwards for the rest of their lives. That also goes for those Hillary women, who will vote for McSame, when Hill does not get the nomination. Wake up for God's sake. Can you not see what you are doing by playing directly into the republican hands. Might as well give them the key to the White House now and get it over with!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 04/24/2008

Please super delegates...let Hillary steal the nomination so she get get her a** handed to her, then hopefully she'll lose her senate seat and no one will ask them to speak anywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 04/24/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 322 fans permalink
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In the good old boy industries, yes, discrimination is present. And white men make more then their equals be they women or people of color.

But those industries are dying, and in the high tech sector where I work, people are paid by MERIT, not by gender or race. Its too damn competative to dick around with cheating good and talented people on their pay check. They'll go somewhere else and stick it to their former employer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 04/24/2008
- kardwell I'm a Fan of kardwell 7 fans permalink

Wish it were, but this is simply not true. Discrimination and sexual harassment runs rampant even within our industry and other industries we deem similarly 'evolved.'
Trust me, it is lovely to believe that due to the education and intellectual capacity required to compete in our business, a more progressive mentality is prevalent, but again, it is not. I have more than once been horrified by the 'good ol boy' attitudes I have encountered in the high-tech industry -- particularly because the industry is dominated by a younger generation of educated "liberal" men who are supposed to know better.
Sexism is still alive and kicking. Another phenomenon I have noticed is that African Americans and Latinos are largely underrepresented in the tech industry. I do not believe this is a result of racial discrimination, but our systemic/social scenario in which acquiring exposure, education, and access is nearly impossible for these groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 04/24/2008
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Okay, I feel like I am sort of walking on eggshells here but there is something about McCain that really bothers me...not because I hate him or anything, but has anyone else had any thoughts about how stable McCain is?? After all, he was a prisoner of war...that's gotta cause some heavy mental problems, right? PTSD? But aside from all that, I'm really starting to worry that he may have a touch of dementia going on.

Could the above reasons I have stated be the reason he hasn't released his medical records? Have the Republicans selected some sort of Manchurian Candidate?? Fuck, my parents are Republicans and they are worried, so worried that they voted for Obama in the primary... and that is really saying something, coming from my elderly parents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/24/2008
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Being a prisoner of war for seven years and withstanding torture to boot will absolutely leave mental scars that won't heal - I have a suspicion that is the reason we won't be seeing McCain's medical records any time soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/24/2008

Lebanese Blonde?

How high can you go?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/24/2008
- JFaye I'm a Fan of JFaye 31 fans permalink

Dementia did not occur to me, however out of touch certainly did and dangerous. Yet, are the 60+ Republican Senators who voted against the bill suffering with dementia as well. No, it's called special interest and power of lobbyists.

Herein lies the irony of McCain walking thru the Clinton door of labeling Senator Obama an elitist. Give greedy corporations more protection thru less regulation and tell women get more education and training.

We need transparency from all the candidates; particularly the more experience who may have more favors to return like McClinton ... sorry McBush ... sorry McCain and John Clinton, ... sorry Hillary Clinton ... these two confuse me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 04/24/2008

I've been saying that, with all his gaffes and mixing up soonies and shites. He could have beginners Alzheimers. Didn't we find out Reagan suffered from that like the last year of his presidency.

With that sais it still does not excuse him from aiding, condoning and endorssing of the continued discrimination against women in the workplace is UNACCEPTABLE. And should be taken into consideration for all those women who say the will vote for McCain instead of Obama, if Hillary is not the nominee. Think real hard....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 04/24/2008

I lived in the tiny town where many of the POW pilots came to retrain in jets. It would break your heart to spend time with them. Even at play in the "O" Club, you had to be VERY careful when approaching them from behind.

Yeah...I'm older than dirt. My band used to play the Officer's Club from time to time. I remember some pretty wild times, though:

Riding motorcycles and VW's thru the Commander's freshly sod golf course after a rainstorm and about 3 in the am...putting a grand piano in the O Club's pool...putting the VW in the O Club's pool (although I wasn't present for that one, I swear!)

And thankfully, everyone cut them the slack they needed.

No idea how any of them fared since. I've often wondered about those poor men.

Somthing like that changes you forever...as does all war.

Menopausal Mick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 04/24/2008

OOps...it occurs to me that some of you might think I'm saying McCain was part of those shenanigans.

I've been wracking my brain but I don't remember him being there. Either he wasn't part of the partying bunch or my memory is even worse than I think it is.

Menopausal Mick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 04/24/2008

Well...what do you expect from a "man" who calls his wife a c--t?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/24/2008

Hit that one right on the head . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 04/24/2008

What kinfd of logic is that McCain ..Woman wouldn't have to sue for pay discrimination if they were getting equal pay.......this is what I mean Obama..McC­ain...same ol good ol boys network, time for a woman in the whitehouse, this is ridiculous

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/24/2008
- WHusseinLA I'm a Fan of WHusseinLA 4 fans permalink

Was there a point in there somewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 04/24/2008
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 302 fans permalink
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Honestly, all you bitter people, esp. Hillary supporters, need to get a life. She has lost and the only way she can get the nomination is to steal it through the superdelegates.

Do you really think that anyone is still undecided, after all this time, and can be swayed by your inane comments? And perchance if there are some still undecided, do you think for a minute that they read anything in the Huffington Post?

Give.Me.A.Break HillandBill folks, and cry me a river. I'll bleed Kool Aid for y'all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/24/2008

Too bad for your argument that this thread deals with McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 04/24/2008
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No offense to equal pay legislation, but we have bigger fish to fry.

John McCain will almost surely continue the Bush doctrine of preemptive wars of aggression against oil rich countries in the Middle East - if this is your idea of foreign policy then McCain is your man.

Hillary Clinton is just a notch below McCain on the warmonger scale, same as above.

Barack Obama has publicly rejected and denounced this policy, instead favoring intense and comprehensive diplomacy - if you would like to give peace a chance then Obama is your man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/24/2008

hmmmmmm...­....wonder what the Super Delegates would have to say about this article
"Open Letter to the Super Delegates" http://savagepolitics.com/?p=311

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/24/2008
- haboob I'm a Fan of haboob 3 fans permalink

i am sure the super delegates are fully aware of those things true and untrue in that article. if they lose the moderate base it is over. which is why the remaining 301 have not bolted to obama. be prepared for a clinton/obama ticket. the crybabies can then stay home or vote for mcsenile. it will not matter in the least

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 04/24/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

You read it haboob?

Nice friends Senator Clinton's got, huh? Did you get the part about how the black folks will riot if Obama is robbed of the nomination?

Aren't you ashamed?

That's who you're standing with. Bigots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 04/24/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Why do so many neoconservatives support Hillary Clinton?

It's a really, really good question.

The conservatives who support Obama are moderates. The conservatives who support Clinton are FAR Right.

I really can't stand with her if she's standing with this group of screaming lunatics, and she is.

Again: why are the most virulent dumbos on the Right supporting Clinton?

This needs to be addressed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/24/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

I have a hunch if you research where the money is comming from lately, you'll discover Republicans. just a hunch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 04/24/2008
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