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LIBBY QUAID | 04/23/08 10:57 PM | AP

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Lisa Workman, of Inez, Ky, greets Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, after a news conference outside the Old Martin County Courthouse, Wednesday, April 23, 2008, in Inez, Kentucky during his "It's Time for Action" campaign tour. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits.

Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had delayed the vote to give McCain's Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, time to return to Washington to support the measure, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination.

McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans.

"I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems," the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. "This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system."

The bill sought to counteract a Supreme Court decision limiting how long workers can wait before suing for pay discrimination.

It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more.

The Supreme Court voted 5-4 last year to throw out her complaint, saying she had waited too long to sue.

Democrats criticized McCain for opposing the bill.

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"Senator McCain has yet again fallen in line with President Bush while middle-class families are falling by the wayside," Clinton said in a statement following the vote. "Women are earning less, but Senator McCain is offering more of the same."

Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney said: "At a time when American families are struggling to keep their homes and jobs while paying more for everything from gasoline to groceries, how on Earth would anyone who thinks they can lead our country also think it's acceptable to oppose equal pay for America's mothers, wives and daughters?"

McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.

"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.

McCain chose to visit the tiny hamlet of Inez, Ky., because it is where President Lyndon B. Johnson declared war on poverty. But McCain said Johnson's poverty programs had failed.

"I wouldn't be back here today if government had fulfilled the promise that Lyndon Johnson made 44 years ago," he said.

In recent weeks, McCain has proposed a series of tax breaks for corporations, doubling the dependent child tax exemption, government-backed refinancing for struggling homeowners and a summer holiday from gas taxes. He proposed another new program Wednesday: a tax write-off for companies that provide high-speed Internet access for underserved, low-income communities.

NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to ...
NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to ...
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No on equal pay for women. No on recognizing the civil rights work of Martin Luther King. No on supporting the troops in the form of a new G.I. bill. No on leaving Iraq. No on outlawing the use of torture tactics. No on green technology. No on rolling back the Bush tax cuts. No on the middle class, moderate government spending, stem cell research, universal healthcare and damn near anything else that this country needs. Can somebody PLEASE tell me exactly what part of the McCain platform is good for America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/24/2008
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No on green technology? You mean that newly evil ethanol that is stealing food from the mouths of the poor around the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 04/24/2008

Lobbyists are the evil ones, not ethanol. They would not have to use corn to make the ethanol if the corn lobbyists would allow any funding to research making it from grass or any other number of things that ethanol could be made from. Still there is the problem that it takes more energy to make ethanol than it saves, but the worldwide famine was completely preventable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 04/24/2008
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NO, NO and NO.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/24/2008

"I wouldn't be back here today if government had fulfilled the promise that Lyndon Johnson made 44 years ago,"

Well, virtually every social program that FDR, HST, DDE, JFK or LBJ signed into law has been under constant assault by McCain and his 'friends.'

This clown is as disingenuous a pol as has come down the pike. He is a callous, calculating agent for the right wing, someone who will ally himself with anyone who might further his ambition. This is why I believe that the Democratic candidate will win in November - Crash just continues to dig his hole even deeper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/24/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 325 fans permalink
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Crash McCane - perfect!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 04/24/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 257 fans permalink

"this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems"

Yeah, like Articles Of Impeachment. Can't have any of that "recourse" stuff, can we...

Oooh, I just can't WAIT for the general. This last, best hope of the knuckle-dragging GOP is gonna open up like a piñata when the Dems go to work on him.

His entire "campaign" is the longest running welcome-home celebration in U.S. history.

Someone get out that grainy footage of John in the Hanoi Hilton... quick, before he names another country we should invade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/24/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 193 fans permalink
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In my day women stayed home and raised the children, and we liked it!

Why does everything John McCain says reminds me of a script from Dana Carvey's gurmpy old man routine. McCain needs to educate himself on women of the twentieth century before he can even begin to understand women in the twenty-first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/24/2008
- phreso I'm a Fan of phreso 3 fans permalink

As a professional woman, I don't know a single woman who is paid differently than a man. I suspect none of you do either. It's a strawman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/24/2008
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I am also a professional woman and you are right. I am paid the same as the men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/24/2008
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 240 fans permalink
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Some of these comments are disgustingly laced with the fallacy of "I've got mine" with "so all working women must be okay. Does it threaten you psychologically to know that you and your female colleagues are well paid? Hey come off your high house and go visit a factory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/24/2008

So you are aware of all of your female coworkers salaries as well as their male equivalents? I too am a professional woman and in my job, I would be fired (women have been fired) for even asking what someone else makes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/24/2008
- phreso I'm a Fan of phreso 3 fans permalink

I write the payroll you nimnuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/24/2008
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 240 fans permalink
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Yeah well I bet you don't work in an aircraft supply factory or a hog consignment house or any other place where the typical well-paid male manager is not overeducated but conspires to keep women down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/24/2008
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From the above article:

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"It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more."

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I doubt Lilly Ledbetter would appreciate being called a "strawman."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/24/2008

If you mean by denying that women are 'paid differently' that women are also paid by check or electronically instead of with shells and beads...you are correct. If you are suggesting that all the salary equity research that has been done over the years is wrong, then you're comment is just ridiculous.

Do you also support teaching intelligent design in schools? deny the holocaust? think global warming is a crock? believe professional wrestling is for real?

Don't let the facts get in the way of your dogma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/24/2008
- phreso I'm a Fan of phreso 3 fans permalink

Typical liberal, deny and deflect. WTH does intelligent design, the holocaust and global warming have to do with equal pay? It's just your typical liberal illogical reactionism getting in the way again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/24/2008

Allow me to answer your questions in order.

No
No
Yes
It's not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 04/24/2008
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 77 fans permalink
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Who cares...women have buried the vote in the past 2 elections and are too short sighted to see that their sista Hillary is no better. Maybe if you stopped killing our culture by consuming the latest Brittany Spears saga and started to work on your situational awareness of issues that actually AFFECT you. This debate will become dated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/24/2008

WTF? So you think women should work on issued that actually affect them. But fight for equal pay, who cares? I would love it if this debate were dated, because that would mean it was a non-issue. When women still average less than eighty cents for every dollar a man makes for the exact same job I would say this does AFFECT me and all women and should not only be debated, but corrected.

I agree Hillary is short sighted, but how about not generalizing all women in that category please? And I hate to tell you, but plenty of men are obsessed with the pathetic Hollywood T-n-A parade as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/24/2008

What the hell does Hillary have to do with this story? These pysch games (showing McCain standing next to Hillary in the pix) are just laughable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/24/2008
- Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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I believe that they are making the point that McCain is Hillary's good buddy and colleague and her feminist supporters might be angry if she helps to get him elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/24/2008

Well when woman are actually equal to men then they will be paid accordingly.

Relax it's sarcasm.

Although they don't seem to be equal to the huffstars. Attacking Hillary is a sport. Attacking Obama is racist.

I heart Huffpo. Why is it that we just can't look away from a car crash?

Cheers to the shortbusbrigade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/24/2008
- JackW I'm a Fan of JackW 3 fans permalink

I find it interesting that Huffingtom Post chose a picture of Clinton with McCain in the lead story. This shows an obvious attempty by the Huffington Post to link Clinton to the GOP, although she has little to do with the main story.
Another typical slant by the Huffington Post. First you make up headlines, now you post pictures desugned to get poeple thinking in a different direction.
The Huffington Post is now using Republican tactics. Well done, you are now doing what you so often rail against. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/24/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

The picture IS unfair.

I don't think we can lay the blame on this one picture for "linking Clinton to the GOP"

She seems to be determined to do that all by herself.

I'm starting to think she's on the payroll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/24/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

Maybe she's McCain's trainee? was that the point Huff was trying for? He can teach her how to sound tough on Iraq, and she can teach him how to ca$h in from public service.

They both work for the same DC lobbying firm, so perhaps she is working for him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/24/2008
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She needs to quit the duck hunting and photo opps then.........think of what not having equal pay is doing to the average family, whether it is a female or male head of household. I mean we are turning into a big large third world country where two, three and even four jobs are not enough to live on let alone save for the future. Our country is mortaged to China and people are getting kicked out of their homes....we need economic policies that aren't relics of the 1950s. We needed to get rid of the Stepford mentality 40 years ago. This is why I dont trust Clinton or McCain, Obama has the sense to seek counsel of people wiser than himself and he doesn't have a track record of failure. I think a great deal of his policies are sound, I dont think universal health care is as simple as Hillary Clinton says it is, Massachusetts implemented a similar policy, I would like to hear how that is going? Its a law mandate, like basic auto liability. She wants to put a mandate in place but if women aren't even on the same playing field, how are we gonna pay for that working some low paying job?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 04/24/2008

Sure, you're right, but don't they just look like a couple of good buddies about to go duck hunting together?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/24/2008
- falco I'm a Fan of falco 19 fans permalink

Congradulations to the CFR!! You have brilliantly chosen our presidential candidates to maximize polarity! A black candidate to divide us by race, a woman candidate to divide us by gender, a white male veteran to divide us by nationalism (war vs peace). Quite the reality show! Thanks again
CFR, I guess we weren't getting enough reality show kicks from the boob tube and needed it in our presidential campaign. You lizards need to come up with something else, you've grossly underestimated the perception and analytical skills of the population. We can see right through you and are prepared to stand together as one unit regardless of your efforts of division, hatred, fear, and deliberate destruction of our earth and its inhabitants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/24/2008
- WHusseinLA I'm a Fan of WHusseinLA 4 fans permalink

You knew this was coming ever since Ike signed that treaty with the greys to let the reptilian shape-shifters take over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/24/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 69 fans permalink
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Maybe you can see through them but look at all the people who helped these 3 get where they are today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/24/2008
- vet64 I'm a Fan of vet64 18 fans permalink

Women and minorities make good window dressing as long as they agree with the Neo Cons philosophies.. I know a lot of women who are very smart and work to further themselves along, financially and educationwise. I have no qualms about having a female boss as long as they're qualified.
The Republican Party is not the party of the 50's or early 60's. The racist Dixiecrats jumped over to the Republicans when the Democrats had a twinge of remorse and embraced Civil rights in the 60's. And along come the Neo Cons who hijacked the Republicans and bastardized it's ideals along with the Religious Idiots. Lies, half truths and manipulated and distorted truths is the norm for these Neo Con Parasites and their followers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/24/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 162 fans permalink

"this kind of legislation... opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems"

Who is "us", Senator McCain? It seems to me that employers already have an unfair advantage over their employees. In a capitalist economy, it's absolutely crucial that all parties have the right to seek justice when the value of labor, commodities, or products is being unfairly constrained by market externalities such as social prejudice.

Now, if the Democrats were to propose legislation that requires employers to maintain equal pay rates for men and women across their workforce, then I would oppose it. In general, I believe that such issues are better handled by the courts on a case-by-case basis than by imposing blanket regulations that may be inappropriate in certain contexts. Corporate interest groups and their Republican surrogates must decide whether they prefer to deal with prescriptive regulations or punitive lawsuits. They can't get rid of both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/24/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Are you aware it's against the law to discriminate based on sex in pay matters? That's how the case got to the SCOTUS. She sued, but too late. Dismissed according to the law that was ans still is on the books. But, go ahead, RANT some more........ it's carthagenic, I hear.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/24/2008

Bob, the word you want is cathartic...or maybe you do mean carthagenic...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/24/2008

Wouldn't it be ironic ifbitter Hillary supporters, presumably including a lot of feminists, helped get this women-hating jerk elected?

He's against fair pay.
He's pro-discrimination.
He will appoint Supreme Court justices like Allito, who will overturn Roe v Wade.

If Hillary helps McCain win, either by dragging it out to the convention, or deliberately sabotaging it, she will set women's rights back a generation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/24/2008

Wouldn't it be ironic if bubbleheaded Obama supporters, presumably including a lot of ultra-leftists, help get this woman-hating jerk elected?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/24/2008
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There is no reason for the guy with the most votes, most delegates, and most states won to quit. If McCain is elected it will be because Hillary refused to get behind the Democratic frot runner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/24/2008

He's also against an improved GI Bill - just like Bush. Heckofa guy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/24/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

You seem confused ! If Obama keeps up this fight ...then it is Obviously His doing if McCain wins,because he will Not !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/24/2008
- WHusseinLA I'm a Fan of WHusseinLA 4 fans permalink

Got math?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 04/24/2008
- JWakkaJane I'm a Fan of JWakkaJane 3 fans permalink

Equal pay for equal qualification is the law, but women are paid 70 something percent of what men get for the same qualifications, same work, system wide. That's a PROBLEM. The neocon "War on Crime" is a euphemism for war on the poor. Case in point.

Cops on patrol everyday cruising the streets in droves, but there's no daily hoard cruising factories or corporations looking to bust any ol' corporate loser dumb enough to be doing anything illegal right under their noses.

No, victims of CORPORATE CRIME, it's on THEM to enforce the law, and to have to risk their own livelihood in order to see equal pay: OR NOT. Why do you think this is such a systemic problem?

According to the Bush-loaded Supreme Court Lily Ledbetter "WAITED TOO LONG". She waited until it was SAFE, and that's assuming she knew what was up all along.

Sure, according to the precedent set by that case, alloting a short time frame within which women can act, you can go ahead and risk getting blackballed or losing your job when you just GOT the job, because you're 'IT', that is IF you actually happen to FIND OUT you are being paid less than men WITHIN that time frame and have the balls or suicidal tendencies required to follow COMPANY procedure on it, right away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/24/2008
- DrToketee I'm a Fan of DrToketee 13 fans permalink

See, you female Hillary voters, especially those of you that have already banging against glass ceilings for decades?

Voting for Hillary increases her chances to either further delay and jeopardize Obama's likely victorious fight against McCain, or to win the Democratic nomination and lose badly against McCain who is in turn begging all Democrats to nominate her. Every vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain - who says YOU don't deserve equal pay!

Bottomline: your vote for Hillary is a vote AGAINST YOURSELF.

Ladies, can you FINALLY see NOW how STUPID your support for Hillary is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/24/2008

See, you female Obamo voters, especially those of you that have already banging against glass ceilings for decades?

Voting for Obama increases his chances to either further delay and jeopardize Hillary's victorious fight against McCain, or to win the Democratic nomination and lose badly against McCain. Every vote for Obama is a vote for McCain - who says YOU don't deserve equal pay!

Bottomline: your vote for Obamo is a vote AGAINST YOURSELF.

Ladies, can you FINALLY see NOW how STUPID your support for Obama is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/24/2008
- WHusseinLA I'm a Fan of WHusseinLA 4 fans permalink

She's not going to "win" so you make no sense. The only way she could get the nomination is to fracture the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 04/24/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Another Twisted Obaman !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/24/2008

No. Actually we're the ones who are saying that if Obama is the nominee, we will shift our support to him in a heartbeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/24/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 90 fans permalink

Guess equal opportunity doesn't extend everywhere, Rev Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/24/2008
- pfurlong56 I'm a Fan of pfurlong56 3 fans permalink

Rush needs a depends change, hurry...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/24/2008
- phreso I'm a Fan of phreso 3 fans permalink

How old are you? Seriously. This is not the comment of an adult, this is a comment a 15 yr old would make. Did you never grow up?

What am I saying, you're a liberal. Of course you never grew up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/24/2008
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