Pennsylvania Primary Helps John McCain

For better or worse -- and many Democrats fear it is for worse -- the race goes on.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton defeated Senator Barack Obama in Pennsylvania on Tuesday by enough of a margin to continue a battle that Democrats increasingly believe is undermining their effort to unify the party and prepare for the general election against Senator John McCain.

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[deb813]

Where does she suppose she is going to find the votes she needs if she manages to somehow steal this nomination? Republicans hate her and are salivating for the chance to pick her oh so sanctimonious bones. The young that Obama has mobilized and the African Americans will never vote for her because she STOLE the election. She has insulted the small states, the caucus states, the 48 states that played by the rules. She has insulted Moveon.org.

If I were a superdelegate I'd move over to Obama NOW and get rid of the loser who cannot win unless she steals the nomination. Contrary to popular belief, states that picked Hillary do not matter more then the twice as many who voted for Obama.

And before the Clinton supporters say she can still win, she is BEHIND in every metric needed to win the election . Her overwhelming win got her 10 delegates. It's an awfully long road to win by the RULES. So who is going to vote for her in the end?

[johnpherson]

All I said was "blind faith in the military industrial complex is like paying for your own funeral."

[johnpherson]

Blind faith in the Military Industrial Complex is like paying for your own funeral.

[FunGuy13]

Is it me or does it seem that Obama's camp seem to be very thin skinnned & can't seem to handle losing graciously?!?!

[johnpherson]

Obama is the campaign that "the People" have attached themselves to. McCain and Clinton are much more party establishment candidates. The ascendant super power of the world is the power of the People. We the People have emerged throughout Central and South America in the past few years (one of the few good things to result from Iraq war is that American foreign policy imperialists have taken their eyes off the ball in that region.)

[FunGuy13]

Considering how high HIllary's negatives are the fact that the majority of Democrats think Obama will win the nomination (even the majority of them in PA) it is really concerning that Obama still cannot win over white middle class voters. At this point in the campaign, when the nominee is all but certain, most people who vote want to say they voted for the winning side so they usually vote for the front runner. This is not happening here. With data coming out saying most people don't "trust" or "like" HIllary the risk is that the data is telling us that these voters aren't "voting for Hillary" but instead are "voting against Obama". Obama hasn't been able to connect with a very important piece of the "base" during the entire campaign and if this happens in November then there is no way he will win the White House. African-Americans and "Starbucks" democrats aren't going to carry the day all by their lonesome.

Screaming at Hillary to get out may not solve the problem. The fact is Obama has (1) spent more money, (2) has "front runner status", (3) has much more media "love"...and still can't win "Reagan Democrats".

He has to win blue collar PA, OH, IN in order to carry those states and he has to carry at least 2 of those states to win. The last dem nominee not to carry blue collar PA was Dukakis and we all know how well that worked out.

[EspritDeVoltaire]

Google has a free calculator program which will help you stop embarrassing yourself with your math. It's no shame not to be good with numbers the way our educational system has declined.

[haboob]

does it have a super delegate key ?

[SkoolOFBarROCK]

lol

[butchie65]

You must be one that doesn't understand politics. Hillary is still the looser, ask her why she can't handle loosing ?

[Indyfromny]

Obama has already won. At this point its about Hillarys ego.

[FunGuy13]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_analysis;_ylt=Asx1EzAWI38FIeKCRhPGUyayFz4D

[soundfury]

Just wait til the cackling shrew is carried out kicking and screaming, then we'll see who the sore loser really is.

[morticia]

HEY OBAMA supporters, maybe we should all band together and send him a nice BUNDLE OF CASH!!
help to keep that smile on his face.

[doublesvb]

he is handsome, isn't he

[NochlessMonster]

I had to laugh when I saw the headline. How very true, last night was a win for McCain!

He is still free to wander aimlessly around the country, saying what ever he wishes to say, unopposed at every turn.

[lornejl]

How many are for cutting one penny from the military budget ? Sorry, you lose, you are an America hater.

[EggsBolinski]

I would say cut alot of the military budget. We should be sending friendly people to all these countries instead. It is alot cheaper and well you make friends!

[urbanscorpio88]

Excuse me miss, are high?

[Indyfromny]

Thats just crazy talk.

[johnpherson]

Huh?

[johnpherson]

Were the roles reversed Obama would have left the race in a dignified manner 2/3rds maybe even earlier,into a Clinton "run" of 12 straight primary wins.
But Ms. Clinton is an Establishment candidate just as is McCain. The Powers that Be aren't taking any chances with a "Peoples" movement that has attached itself to Obama, and a Corporate Media is making sure of it now by participating in the creation of a caricature of Obama's as radical leftist. (He is not.)

[gopindrag]

If she steals the nomination, I promise I will vote against John McCain.

[soundfury]

I bet you will!

[soundfury]

Hillary: Manchurian candidate of the right
McCain: Fall guy of the right
Obama: Target of the right, the media, hillary and McCain

[haboob]

for obama you left out women old and young, latinos asians blue collar workers you will soon be adding more to this list

[williamgg]

Now, let's project out the delegate race.

Total Delegates:

Obama - 1655
Clinton - 1513

I doubt Hillary will pick up more than 8 delegates tonight. Obama should pick up 73, Hillary should pick up 85. New total delegates will be:

Obama - 1728
Clinton - 1598

Now, lets look at the races ahead, and give Hillary the most favorable outcome:

Guam - 4 (Obama 2 -- Hillary 2)
North Carolina - 115 (Obama 61 -- Hillary 54)
Indiana - 72 (Obama 35 -- Hillary 37)
West Virginia 28 (Obama 11 -- Hillary 17)
Oregon 52 (Obama 28 -- Hillary 24)
Kentucky 51 (Obama 23 -- Hillary 28)
Puerto Rico 55 (Obama 23 -- Hillary 32)
Montana 16 (Obama 9 -- Hillary 7)
South Dakota 15 (Obama 8 -- Hillary 7)

New totals:

Obama - 1928
Clinton - 1806

And this is beyong favorable, considering I don't think she will win Indiana (2 most recent polls showing Obama +5), and I think Obama numbers will be larger in North Carolina (as much as a 18 point spread), and in Oregon (up to an 8 point spread).

Now, those totals also take into account that no more Superdelegates chose a side between now and June. That will leave Obama needing only 87 out of the remaining 300 + superdelegates remaining. That will leave Hillary needing 219 out of the remaining 300 + superdelegates remaining.

Hillary's last rationale to the superdelegates is to win the popular vote, which is an absolute long

[williamgg]

** I meant to write that she will pick up 12 delegates from Penn, not 8.

[soundfury]

Stop trying to teach math to people who can't even use an abacus. These are the same people picking Hillary for President...sheesh!

[haboob]

how many hillary supporters do you think you picked up with that statement ?

[GravitonX]

I won't vote for Hillary even if Obama loses respect for himself and picks her as his VP.

[Gruntfuttock]

Are you serious? You and many democrats would vote for a pro war, pro Iran attack candidate because you didn't get your own way? What's the matter with you? I was raised as a child in a war - it isn't pretty. How many of you would switch to McCain if you had been bombed on, shot at, made homeless, removed from your parents to go God knows where? THINK THINK THINK. We don't have enough military to sustain Iraq and these idiots are sabre rattling? This whole country is based on fear and McPain is really good at it. That quiet voice of his makes me shudder - talk about passive/aggressive personality. That temper could land us in precarious situations. Years ago I worked with some vets in a rehab. Some were tortured, some were torturers. None of them would advocate torture as he has. My cousin was on the Death Railroad, River Kwai, and neither would he. Wake up America, if you want a country left to live in.

[johnpherson]

You must vote Clinton, and Clinton supports you must do the same w/ Obama, nose held and all. You DO NOT want McCain to pick 2 maybe 3 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES!!!

[HippieChick]

"McCain to pick 2 maybe 3 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES"

What a nightmare scenario. The thought that the Supreme Court we have now could actually be worse is terribly frightening. I happened to be watching Boston Legal last evening, and very much enjoyed the fantasy scene where James Spader took on the Supreme Court. It's rare for me to cheer from my couch, but Spader's character really let 'em have it in words I would have chosen myself.