Common glitch at pump adds to gas costs, also cheats station

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MICHAEL GORMLEY | April 26, 2008 10:19 AM EST | AP


Joe Marcello, Sr., of the Schenectady County weights and measures department, tests gas pump efficiency at a station in Duanesburg, N.Y., Wednesday, April 23, 2008. Correcting a common and mostly ignored problem with bad "check valves," the valves that are supposed to make sure gas flows at the same time the price meter starts, depends on alert consumers and on honest retailers. (AP Photo/Mike Groll)

ALBANY, N.Y. — Angry about the price of gas? Just imagine paying for gas you don't get. Some alert consumers have noticed it over the years: A pump that seems to hesitate a second when the lever is squeezed. Anywhere from 2 to 6 cents tick off before the rush of gasoline starts. That's what happens with a common, hard to diagnose and mostly ignored problem with the "check valve," which is supposed to make sure gas flows at the same time the price meter starts.

But even if your gas pump works, it can still be off as much as $5 for every fill up. Tests by local regulators allow a pump to charge as much as 6 cents more than the gas delivered in a five-gallon test.

Don't blame the gas guys. Even consumer advocates say retailers may be losing as often as consumers and no one appears able to rig the meters. But the small "check valve" at the end of the multibillion dollar industry just wears out, and often goes unnoticed for months.

Regulators' records show short staffing, particularly for financially struggling counties that try to inspect pumps every six months, but too often don't even meet the one-year requirement in states like New York.

Federal standards require all gas pumps to start pumping gas as soon as the price meter starts, said Ken Butcher of the National Institute of Standards of Technology, part of the U.S. Commerce Department.

Bob Wolfram knew something was wrong when the pump he used in Davenport, Iowa, showed he put two more gallons of gas into his tank than the tank holds.

"I was low, but it wasn't negative," said Wolfram, a 54-year-old engineer.

He reported it to a consumer Web site then took it to the government regulators, who acted promptly. But even then, the test showed the pump was only off a quart.

"I just kind of said, `What will they do next?'" Wolfram said.

Correcting the problem depends on alert, well-informed consumers like Wolfram. It also depends on honest retailers who choose to pass along reports to regulators who must confirm the problem before an authorized repair company is called to fix it.

"There's one Mobil owner, he tells clerks that if there's a discrepancy within $5 to reimburse the customer," said C. Todd Godlewski, director of the Schenectady County Bureau of Weights and Measures in upstate New York, the agency that inspects pumps.

"Yes, it can be that much," he said.

A bad valve can also work against retailers, freezing the price gauge for an instant after gas starts. No one's sure who gets gored more, or how deeply.

"Even one penny on the amount of petroleum pumped annually or weekly at a station would be several thousand gallons of fuel, and add that up," Godlewski said. "If you have a meter that is costing a customer, it adds up quite a bit."

The problem compounds the aggravation of record high gas prices. On Tuesday, the national average hit a record $3.51 per gallon, according to a survey of stations by AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. That's nearly 66 cents higher than last year, and rising.

"We'll hear complaints about this quite regularly, usually several each week," said Jason Toews, co-founder of the independent nationwide Web site GasBuddy.com that tracks prices and complaints.

"It's mostly about the principle of it," he said. He said the problem usually only costs a consumer pennies per fill-up, but that's more than enough these days.

Toews discounts the conspiracy theories that blame the problem on retailers or the oil industry. Most retailers, he said, wouldn't know how to alter the pumps to their benefit.

A New York Comptroller's Office audit in 2000 found "many municipalities" statewide failed to inspect their pumps once a year as required (the best practice is two inspections every year) and that meters were corrected during testing, which could mask overcharging. Four years later, a follow-up audit found only partial resolution, partly because of too little staffing.

Bob Renkes of the Petroleum Equipment Institute based in Tulsa, Okla., has heard about complaints, "mostly when gas prices are high." He said meters "get looser over time," which could make them malfunction and start to count pennies before fuel starts pumping.

"I think our industry would love to replace anything that wears down," Renkes said. But the check valves aren't a high priority when the industry is dealing with issues such as preventing identity theft when swipe cards are used, static electricity discharges and the 5 percent of retailers whose old mechanical equipment can't register a price of $4 a gallon.

State and local regulators doubt any but the most ambitious consumers would contact them in case of a problem, even though the phone numbers are on inspection stickers. More likely, consumers fume and wonder if they were cheated, or report it to the manager of the gas station or convenience store.

"That's what's tough about this," said Jessica Chittenden, spokeswoman for New York's weights and measures office that oversees local inspectors. "The two cents or whatever would go to the retailer."

Even when a report is made, and a local inspector is dispatched, the problem might not be fixed.

Chittenden said a faulty valve would likely work sporadically: "It's very difficult to find it unless you are there every day several times a day."

Godlewski, the upstate New York inspector, said he's found pumps off by as much as three times the 6-cent threshold. Because of it, his county this year is tracking pump problems and hopes to quantify it for the first time.

"You ask yourself," he said, "`If nobody said anything ... and it's run like that for six months, how many were taken?'"

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On the Net:

http://www.gasbuddy.com

http://www.agmkt.state.ny.us

 
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I understand Halliburton has a contract from Homeland security people to solve this problem.
Halliburton will use an element of KBR to implement this contract.

It was determened that this falls under the fight on terror, just the terror was being inflicted by the oil compaines, however terror is terror regardles.

So I feel comfortable with this decision and want to praise Darth Chaney once more for looking out for the common person that it costs 90.00 bucks to fill up their vehicle once a week.
This gas price thing has proven the saying that people need to eat food at least once a day to be a myth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/27/2008
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REPLACING THE CHECK VALVE REGULARLY IS TOO MUCH TO ASK????????

IT TAKES 20 MINS TO REPLACE THE CHECK VALVE!!!!!

TURN OFF THE PUMP POWER AND UNPLUG AND UNSCREW, THEN SCREW IN NEW ONE PLUG IT UP AND TURN ON THE POWER.

THIS IS CRAZY!!!! YOU KNOW IF IT WAS HURTING THEM MORE THE PROBLEM WOULD BE SOLVED ALREADY!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 04/27/2008

Is drilling in ANWAR too much to ASK???????? Then we wouldnt have to worry about a GLITCH. Just remember why gas prices are high... RADICAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS and DEMOCRATS!!!! VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/27/2008
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Americans put up with all this sh*t?


WHY?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 04/26/2008

Hey, don't worry G.W. has a plan to deal with this problem.
Didn't you know? He's on the case! GW we love your problem solving ability.....Republicans are really the ones we can rely on and that's why John McCain is going to win. The Republicans have all the answers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 04/26/2008

This shit been going on for years now we are concerned....Is that just like the Iraq war majority just loved it and now oh, we are against it...may I say god is damming America...oh my god we can't say that, only lies must be spoken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/26/2008


In Oregon, where I am, it has been tried for years to get self-serve gas stations..It has been proved over and over that it doesn't save a dime. Very often gas prices here are lower than many other states. Also, most importantly it puts many to work.. When I travel out of state it is annoying to get out, in bad weather to get dirty, smell of gasoline. To each his own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 04/26/2008

I filled the gas tank years in my motor home years ago when it was down to a 1/4 and the pump registered 5 gallons more than my tank could hold empty. The owner took my name and number and to my surprise I received a check about a month later for $10, along with an apology.

Another time in Buffalo. NY. I filled up and the engine died 5 miles outside of town and we later discovered that the tank contained four gallons of water. No refund, no apology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/26/2008
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Ah, human 'nature'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 04/27/2008
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Ever so often at a gas station in Palmdale, CA I noticed that same thing and wondered what it was. I went there because they had the lowest priced gas and now I have to wonder about that.

Interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 04/26/2008

In New Jersey it is illegal to pump your own gas, so who notices things like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/26/2008

Really? Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 04/26/2008
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Pumping your own gas is dangerous! Like, ordinary drivers might forget to put the nozzle into their car, and then they turn on the gas and get sprayed. And a spark from your cellphone ignites it, and you go up like a human torch.

At least, that's one of the reasons I heard when I drove up to Oregon for the first time (hilarity ensued when I crossed the border, stopped at a gas station, and got out and tried to pump gas, and a teenager came running screaming "STOP STOP STOP"). Another reason I've heard up there is it spares consumers to inconvenience of having to go inside the store and pay; when you point out that every other gas pump in the country has had debit or credit card swipes at the pump for the past 20 years, they just stare at you, uncomprehending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/26/2008
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There's an inordinate amount of dumb people in New Jersey. I grew up there and saw these dummies up close on many occasions. The State of New Jersey enacted this "for god's sakes, you can't pump your own gas!" law to help these dummies.

The common misconception from outsiders is that the car drivers are the dummies. That's not so. Everybody knows pumping gas is easy-peasy. It's the gas station attendants who are dumb, and this is New Jersey's way of keeping many of them gainfully employed. Long ago, they even tried to get "full service" gas attendants to check every car's oil level and clean the front windshield, but that was deemed too difficult for most of them, so they dropped that silly multitasking experiment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 04/27/2008
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