Geoff Garin, Clinton Chief Strategist, Once Called For Violent Revolution

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First Posted: 04-30-08 12:09 AM   |   Updated: 05- 7-08 05:12 AM

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With 60s-era radicalism now a hot topic in the Democratic primary, it's worth noting the (amusing, ironic) history of Sen. Hillary Clinton's co-chief strategist Geoff Garin.

Philip Weiss, who attended Harvard with Garin more than 30 years ago, recalls that he was "a special guy -- softspoken, funny, brilliant. He was also a radical. In 1973, on an anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Garin called for violent revolution in the United States" in the student paper, the Crimson:

...America and much of the world is living dangerously close to oppression. ... Whether Americans will soon become steadfast in their resistance to oppression depends on their coming to understand what resistance is all about. The way we celebrate the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party will gauge the depth of that understanding.... Freedom is on the wane in this country and repression is on the rise all over the world. We can no longer sit back and swap stories about the good old revolution. We have to start worrying about the present. On this anniversary we must recognize that the patriots of Boston acted wisely in overthrowing their oppressors and the time is come to express our confidence in what our forefathers did by doing it ourselves. [my emphasis]

Following Agnew's resignation in 1973, Garin again spoke of revolution:

The government in Washington can not survive under these circumstances, and under these circumstances the government should not survive.... America will be governed in any case, but the question is by whom. If not by the people, then by a strong executive. These are revolutionary times, and we must decide now whom we want to win the revolution.

Of course, Garin was 20 years old when he wrote the pieces above. But as Weiss notes, "It is helpful to read his writings because they demonstrate: how much people grow, how common revolutionary statements have been in the left (even in the Jewish meritocracy, of which Garin and I are members). But mostly because they show that the continuum of left-center ideas, which are now coming back into American life, includes Wright, Garin, and Obama."

With 60s-era radicalism now a hot topic in the Democratic primary, it's worth noting the (amusing, ironic) history of Sen. Hillary Clinton's co-chief strategist Geoff Garin. Philip Weiss, who attend...
With 60s-era radicalism now a hot topic in the Democratic primary, it's worth noting the (amusing, ironic) history of Sen. Hillary Clinton's co-chief strategist Geoff Garin. Philip Weiss, who attend...
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Wow! I am so surprised.­..not! It is no surprise that this guy is in her camp. C'mon, people, even Hillary herself was an activist in college. She worked on a campus newsletter that called policemen "pigs" and was fairly violent leaning. She seems to like these kinds of people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 04/30/2008

"fairly violent leaning?" ... this is weak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 04/30/2008
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Why don't you research it yourself. You might be very surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 04/30/2008
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Our nation was born in revolution. Our constitution preserves for us the legal justification to revolt. Look at the 2nd amendment. It's as American as apple pie. Any citizen with a modicum of civic duty will prepare himself and his progeny with the spirit, the will, and the means to overcome a oppressive government. Visit http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 04/30/2008

For all of you youthful whipper snappers, I am glad that this was run and hope that there will be many more stories from that period run also. It seems that my generation forgot to pass on to the next generations that government can lie to you and get out of hand. There was a lot of talk of violent means to do something about the government then and some actually did some things. When the war ended, I think that our government, listening to the people and military like Kerry, came to the conclusion that something may be about to happen. It is needed now for the people and the military to tell our leaders that enough is enough once again. Hopefully, all of us will see some energy from the same people who did things back then, the young ones, The long haired protesters were just every day Americans who feared that the draft machine would kill them all. Hopefully if they do rise up in anger and our government does pay attention again, we won't forget to tell future generations so we won't have to go through this every fifty years or so. The only warped part about this piece is any slightest idea that Mr Garin was one of a few. There were thousands just like him. Where are the thousands of todays people who will actually do something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 04/30/2008
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They are blogging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/30/2008

They're campaigning for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 04/30/2008
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I have a feeling if something like the draft existed today, there would be a lot of protesting going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/30/2008
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I liked what you wrote, Letsgetsmart. Am thinking that in addition to Vietnam War protest, we reacted to students being killed at Kent State, and the final straw was the assassinations of Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, and yes, Malcolm X. It was just too much for people to bear. All the charismatic leaders seemed to have been eliminated in one fell swoop. That's what it felt like. Everyone's moral compass was thrown off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 04/30/2008
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Let's all hold our collective breath and wait for MSNBC and CNN to pick this up and run with it...after all, how many times, and how many cycles of news were we subjected with Jeremiah Wright's association? Want to place any bets? It won't even be a blip on the radar screen...d­espite the fact that this man is Mrs. Clinton's "Co-chief strategist" and revolution seems to be part of his DNA....It'­s pathetic..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 04/30/2008
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Well this situation is obviously different. This guy has no ties to Obama, so it cannot possibly be an issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 04/30/2008
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Also, he's not Black or fighting on behalf of Blacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 04/30/2008
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Were any Brits or British sympathizers injured or killed in the Boston Tea party?

I thought the whole idea was to destroy property; Seemingly symbolic property. Although I don't know how much value was involved. Perhaps it was a severe economic blow as well.

Eitherway, I'm not sure the Boston Tea party counts as "Violent revolution".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 04/30/2008
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Historians have been arguing about this for a century and a half, about whether it was a revolution or just an overly-energetic bid for independence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 04/30/2008
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I don't know about the Boston Tea Party but the American Revolution I studied in grade school kind of turned violent, or were those flowers in the musket barrels?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/30/2008

No, it wasn't a revolution, it was a protest. They are not always one and the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 04/30/2008

REMEMBER: MLK was branded anti-patriotic, communist and a radical. Today, you can't find one person to talk against MLK or his views. Time will shine a light on this fiasco of an election and calculate how a movement of change refused to be side tracked and distracted into believing the old reliable race baiting and anti-patriotic devises to stop what millions have joined.

This election is more than Obama; it is a movement of change, by a generation of hope, in a time of hopelessness!

Let's stay focused on task.
Obama 2008!
Si se puede 2008!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 04/30/2008

Hillary lies all the time. She can't be trusted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 04/30/2008
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I like the way she wants an Lincoln-Douglas type debate on a flat bed truck anywhere in North Carolina.

Ya just wanna throw up, know what I mean?

Pander is Hillary's middle name.

Hillary Pander Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 04/30/2008
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Lol, I'm glad someone caught that point about the flat bed truck. I also noticed she used that point more than one time in more than one speech. That just proves it was a planned statement and not just something she said off the top of her head. I know what you mean, it does make one want to throw up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/30/2008

Why? What's Obama hiding?? Why shouldn't he agree, if he is truly the best??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 04/30/2008

Guilt by association only applies to black people, silly.

bring back the Clintons! who gave us the deregulation of the Financial System and Accounting practices in the 90s... and who now promise war with Iran...

bring back the Clintons! who, running a republican style personality campaign, will surely out gun-toting­-bible-thu­mping-musl­im-fearng-­white-man John McCain in the general election (not)...

THINK FOR YOURSELF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 04/30/2008
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Roshi98--There is NOTHING different about this...it is indeed guilt by association. Barack Obama sat on a Board, with Ayers as another board member, is so terribly awful...HO­W?!? So, if in fact, there is a problem with that, LOOK OUT, for we have no idea who Hills has sat at the table with, much less had be her co-chief strategist­...

Your double-standard is fascinatin­g...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 04/30/2008

It's just silly attacks by both parties. Neither Obama nor Hillary were complicit in any crimes. The youngins don't know how close this country came to violent revolution in the 60s. They don't have to worry about being drafted and killed for something they don't believe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 04/30/2008

How soon we forget. Alot of us, were those kids back then, we grew up and moved on. Nothing stays the same.
BillZBubb says You Obama supporters really are desperate because of this article BUT clinton is willing to (1) not mentioning her radical ideas back then (2) bring up Ayers association with Obama
and Obama's supporters are desperate.­..........­.....What'­s wrong Bill afraid your scarey leader will be found out at last????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 04/30/2008

Yeah but Obama's guy is black, clearly that's key for the uneducated rural white crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 04/30/2008
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I really don't care what these folks did in the 60's. It's their actions now that I really care about. To me, he is an adviser to a person running for President who would "obliterate" a country without a second thought. That should worry everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 04/30/2008
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Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 04/30/2008
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It does me. According to the MSM, I should be more worried about Rev. Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 04/30/2008

Oh grow the hell up. You think Hillary is that stupid?? Think again. It is one of the greatest misfortunes, to underestimate your opponent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 04/30/2008
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too bad it was way back in 1973. We could use more of that rhetoric today.
Oh well, the sheeple will never revolt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/30/2008
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Clinton has no right throwing stones at Obama with Garin in her camp as advisor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 04/30/2008

Don't forget that Mark Penn is still there.

By the way, Geoff Garin is also remarkably pro NAFTA, anti worker. Back in 1993, when the Clinton administration was gearing up to promote the pact, Garin told The New York Times that Bill Clinton could close the deal by playing on the ignorance of Americans regarding trade policy in general and NAFTA in particular.

Garin told Bill Clinton to play on the IGNORANCE of Americans. Is he now advising Hillary to do the same?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 04/30/2008

You're not going to get anywhere reporting this story, because now the guy is a chubby old man in a suit and he works for Hillary Clinton, the status quo candidate. His little "radical" ranting is probably the most glamorous thing he ever did. I'm sure the Clintons love to hoist a few and talk with their associates about the radical days--when all they did was work in coveted Washington jobs and at law firms. Oh, but they sure had long hair! You betcha. Start the revolution and show me to my office cubicle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 04/30/2008
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