Clinton: Base "Broader And Deeper" Than Obama's

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First Posted: 05- 1-08 04:09 PM   |   Updated: 05- 9-08 05:12 AM

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ABC News:

Hillary Clinton campaigned Wednesday in Indianapolis, on the same day that Indiana superdelegate and former Clinton supporter Joe Andrew announced he was switching his allegiance to Barack Obama. Clinton says she's not worried about Joe Andrew's endorsement of Obama....

Clinton called her base of support "broader and deeper" than Obama's, and said, "At the end of the day, that's what it should be about for Democrats. You know, it is who can better win. And I've won the big states. I've won the states that we have to anchor. If we had the Republican rules, I would already be the nominee."

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Hillary Clinton campaigned Wednesday in Indianapolis, on the same day that Indiana superdelegate and former Clinton supporter Joe Andrew announced he was switching his allegiance to Barack Obama. Cli...
Hillary Clinton campaigned Wednesday in Indianapolis, on the same day that Indiana superdelegate and former Clinton supporter Joe Andrew announced he was switching his allegiance to Barack Obama. Cli...
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- RoseMerry I'm a Fan of RoseMerry 18 fans permalink

Well, after you lose this one, Senator, PLEEEEAAASSSEEE switch to the Repocrats! Then maybe the Demopublicans will become Democratics again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/02/2008
- bryan0218 I'm a Fan of bryan0218 5 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 05/02/2008
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When this whole campaign started over a year ago, I was holding back hoping against hope that Gore would finally step up. He didn't so I was for all intents and purposes behind Hillary.

I used to refer to Obama as Obambi because I really had no real belief in him.

THEN I started listening to him and then seeing what a jerk Hillary was turning into. When she started using Thug party tactics against a fellow democrat she completely lost me. That she is doing McBush's work for him is just the worst.

When I finally decided that Hillary was NOT going to be my choice was when she was asked about Obama''s religion and his being a Christian after all the crap going around on the Internet about him being a secret Muslim out to sell us to Albert Kaider, and she said, He's a Christian.....as far as I know"

That was pure calculated Rovian tactics.

She lost me forever on that one.

Obama has STILL managed to weather the fray.

I think he is the one now.

SCREW HILLARY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 05/02/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

She lost me right after NH when she started playing the "victim card." I hate the fact that she acts tough one minute, then the next complains that people are mean to her. It makes us women look bad when people think we use our gender to get ahead. Then it was her undeniable level of thinking she was ENTITLED to the presidency and Obama and Edwards were just bugs that were in her way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 05/02/2008
- Beninn I'm a Fan of Beninn 33 fans permalink
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For me, it was the lying that cinched it. Through the 1990s, I gave the Clintons the benefit of the doubt. Republicans were obviously being picayune for political advantage. But when she told that same Bosnia story over and over again with such authority, how she "remembered" the landing, and the sniper, all so clearly. And when she was outed as lying, her response! "So what? I 'misremembered', so sue me. I'm human."

Jiminey Christmas! What kind of sociopath responds like that?

After that, every time I've seen her speak, I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth.

You can't have a person like that as your head of state. All of these relationships are based on trust. There is none with her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 05/02/2008
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The Clintons have, in fact, brought the U.S. left so far to the right, there are actually few differences between the GOP and the Dems, if you tally them all up.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 05/02/2008

And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's butt a hoppin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 05/02/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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HILLARY DO ALL OF US REAL DEMOCRATS A FAVOR

AND GO JOIN YOUR FRIENDS JOHN MCCAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS

YOU THINK AND VOTE LIKE THEM AND PLAY GUTTER POLITICS JUST LIKE THEM ANYWAY.

AND YOU CAN'T WIN WITH YOUR OWN PARTY
SO HOW CAN YOU WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION?

ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR HUSBANDS OLD SHRUNKEN BASE-YOU HAVE NOTHING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 05/02/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Lisette,

Obama cult member what will you do when Hillary is the President?

Have you thought about that?

And Hillary has a he!! of a base.

The only base your cult GOD has are you insane butt kissing cult members.

And that is melting away.

And Hillary is the only real DEM in the race.

Obama is the little REP cousin to Bush and Cheney.

Your supporting Bush and Cheneys cousin. You people are a joke.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Your about to be PLOWED UNDER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 05/02/2008
- mortrefuge I'm a Fan of mortrefuge 12 fans permalink

a real dlc dem. Hell what is a Dem? A real Dem? Especially these days? Is a real Dem a cold warrior willing to kill our enemies no matter where they might be? Is a real Dem a neo con who wants to obliterate Iran? Is a real Dem a corporate shill willing to sell out America's workers for a donation to their husbands library or their campaign? Hillary may have hoped to be a Dem at one point in her life. Maybe. But now she basks in the glow of $109 million earned in the past 7 years. "We rich people are blessed."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 05/02/2008

right... She's back to being inevitable.

Soon as she figures out how operate the coffee machines and gas pumps without "the help," she'll obliterate her elitist competition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 AM on 05/02/2008

Lisette: You wrote Hillary should "...GO JOIN YOUR FRIENDS JOHN MCCAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS."

Forget Wright; what about Hillary belonging to a religious cult called "The Fellowship" from the time she and Bill hit D.C.?

In that organization her companions-in-faith include Rick Santorum, Sam Brownback, George "Macacca" Allen and many other neocons. The group is sexually segregated (I know, so do Muslims and Jews; no judgments on that, K?), but they won't meet in large groups. They divide themselves into (their term) worship "cells."

One Fellowship goal: Transform the Beltway and the functioning of the government to conform to Protestant Christian rules and teachings.

That leaves all non-Protestants in the dust. I wonder how her high PA Catholic vote would have turned out had the media echo chamber obsessed on this small detail?

The detail that obliterates the Jeffersonian wall separating *specific* religions from dominating governmental functions... . Jefferson and other founders had fits fearing the US would become a theocracy. She and her neocon base are all for it.

Back to your quote and suggested action: She never left the right. Just ask Scaife or campaign donor Rupert Murdoch or her roots as a "Goldwater Girl" in the 60s. It just took hanging with a young fake hippie ("I didn't inhale") Slick Willie who helped convince her there was better action to be had pretending to lean left (while sabotaging universal health care and passing NAFTA).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 05/02/2008

I too have lost sight of any reason why she's not running in the republican party in the first place.

Maybe in 2012?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 05/02/2008

That has been a pet theory of mine for at least a month now.

Step 1: Destroy chances for Dems to win in the fall.

Step 2: McCain gets elected, but only serves one term due to his age (and the very predictable failure that would be his continuation of flip-flopping but basically neoconservative policies -- let alone "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb[ing] Iran").

Step 4: She acknowledges to her fellow members of the religious cult "The Fellowship" to which she is a participating member (a very sizable number of leading neocons there like Brownback, Santorum, George Allen, et. al) that steps 1 & 2 were conscious and willful actions, demonstrating she was really one of them all along and...

Step 5: Runs as Independent (a la Lieberman) or goes *back* to being a Republican (remember "Goldwater Girl"?) and runs in 2012.

Yes, it sounds a trifle wacked, BUT, when viewed through that lens, all her actions suddenly find focus and logical consistency -- though that lens is very distorted.

Repugs only hate the Clintons because they campaign like Repugs. Now those tactics are aimed at more than half of active Dems. It becomes clear what it was Repugs so disliked about them. It's always easier to tolerate bullies so long as they are not bullying you, Right?

BTW: Call me a 55 year old beer drinking Anglo 5-figure-salaried resident of Michigan conspiracy theorist Obama supporter. But her continued actions start to smell like my little nightmare fantasy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 05/02/2008

Oops. Really, I can count. Of course my previous post lost a "step 3" and I failed to renumber. It's not the beer drinking; more like sucked in here at 3:30 a.m. when I have to charge off to work in four hours. Sorry all.
TRF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 05/02/2008

If the people thought thre was any substance to you - you would be winning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 05/02/2008

If Hillary's base really were "broader and deeper" she'd be winning, wouldn't she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 05/02/2008

Broader and deeper somehow translates into less votes, less states, less delegates. Wow someone needs to retake basic math. I feel like there is a dodge being perpetrated here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 05/02/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 293 fans permalink
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You can join the GOP anytime you like Hillary ... I'm sure McCain has a spot on the ticket for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 05/02/2008

You know what is really sad? I used to be all pro-Clinton. During the Lewinsky affair I was all for President Clinton because in my opinion what happens between a man and his wife in a marriage is their own personal affair. They have to work it out and nobody has a right to drag that into the limelight.

I would be all for a woman for president. Hell, let it be a lesbian for president, I could not care less about gender and sexual orientation. And the same is, of course, true for race.

But I want somebody who is sharp, truthful and has a well developed sense of who they are. In other words: I want a grownup for a change. We had enough senile old men and mentally challenged boys with superiority complex. A smart woman could have offered plenty of hope.

But Mrs. Clinton literally fell apart in front of my eyes during this campaign. I had hoped for the better. I am disappointed. I am afraid what she is going to say next, what she is going to do next to destroy her image even further.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/02/2008
- woodson I'm a Fan of woodson 2 fans permalink

I agree with you wholeheartedly..Mrs. Clinton's behavior, actions, words, etc. during this campaign have been disasterous. Her image is being further damaged daily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/02/2008

with apologies for the liberties taken to Betty Davis.

BUT IT'S NOT BLANCH, IT'S NOT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 05/02/2008

Maybe she'd have the nomination and maybe not. Remember, when this started out, she was inevitable. The Party, including her, developed rules and Obama's forces won the greatest number of delegates under those rules. If those rules had been different, Obama's forces would have developed a strategy and tactics to win under other rules. Who knows what would have happened? The fact she is in the position she is in -- losing -- given all of the advantages she had, including over a year of the media calling her inevitable -- makes it doubtful she could win in November or would be a good President if she did win. It's further proof, along with her Iraq and Kyl-Lieberman votes, that Lady Obliterate should not be President.

Hillatirists may not like it, but absent a 65% or more victory by Hillary in every remaining primary, the superdelegates are going to vote give Obama the votes he needs to get the nomination, even if they think he is less electable than she is.

In order for Hillary to get the nomination assuming the current trends, a bunch of primarily white people would have to get together and decide the Black candidate who won the majority of delegates by playing by the rules established by the party, including his opponent, shouldn't get the nomination based upon their subjective crystal ball view of what will happen in November, even though his opponent flagrantly broke the rules to which she agreed.

The superdelegates should do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 05/02/2008
- DMW1 I'm a Fan of DMW1 2 fans permalink

The only thing Hillary has been ready for since day one was to be unethical and dishonest.

Working as a lawyer on Nixon's impeachment trial in 1974, Hillary Clinton was one of only 3 people that Jerry Zeifman would not write a letter of recommendation for in his 17 years as Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee: http://www.aim.org/aim-column/hillarys-crocodile-tears-in-connecticut/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 05/02/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

Everyone! Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!! I can not believe this is being hidden so well by the media and Clinton supporters claim she has a chance of winning once she is convicted in this case that she is apparently guilty of along with Gov Ed Randell and Former Pres Clinton. This will all be over soon! I know the superdelegates are watching this!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can!!!!

P.S. If you want to see a video of one of Clinton's top aide in her campaign office called the people of Indiana SHI_! Then check out the video that is what her people really think snakes all of them liers and snakes!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MzByUHIzw&feature=email

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 05/02/2008
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HaHa, you conspiracy people are so adorable. Come here and give me a big hug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 05/02/2008
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