Joe Andrews: Clinton Destroying Party, Lacks Principle

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First Posted: 05- 1-08 11:28 AM   |   Updated: 05- 9-08 05:12 AM

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Joe Andrews, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee in the late 1990s, warned on Thursday the actions of Sen. Hillary Clinton had the serious potential of tearing the Democratic Party apart.

"I had hoped, like Nancy Pelosi, that this [primary] decision could be have been made after the primaries were over," he told reporters during a conference call. "But I have grown concerned that the actions of one candidate, my former candidate, are going to hurt us in the fall... And so now I am calling upon my fellow superdelegates, however they make their decision, whatever they make it by, to do it now."

Andrews, a superdelegate who was appointed to the DNC by former president Bill Clinton and had endorsed Sen. Clinton, announced this morning that he was switching his support to Barack Obama. His primary reason? The divisiveness and lack of principle he believed was emanating from the Clinton campaign. [Read his letter announcing the switch.]

As Democrats we have an embarrassment of riches," he said. "We have two great candidate and public servants, but they have run their campaigns in different ways."

Specifically, Andrews pointed to Clinton's proposal for a gas-tax holiday -- an idea derided by economists but, likely, welcomed by voters -- as evidence that her candidacy promised not principle, but merely the opportunity to "play the political theater better than anyone else."

"The idea that we would step back from the real energy policy and environmental policy...for half a tank of gas," he said. "Is something that really was the straw that broke the camels back for me."

There is an interesting and long-standing electoral undercurrent to Andrew's endorsement that stems back to the very first primaries. Indeed, his endorsement of Obama is, in many ways, a reflection of and reaction to comments made way back in the lead up to New Hampshire by Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal.

The choice in the Democratic primary, Blumenthal told the New Yorker, was not "a question of transcending partisanship," which Obama has pledged, "it's a question of fulfilling it."

On Thursday, Andrews - who said he expects repercussions and political attacks for his switch - railed against the Blumenthal notion.

"Along comes a principled elected official in Barrack Obama and he says no, you don't have to do it, that is crazy," he said, "Lets talk about some real solutions to problems... lets not talk about giving someone back a half a tank of gas, lets talk about a real environmental and energy policy."

Joe Andrews, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee in the late 1990s, warned on Thursday the actions of Sen. Hillary Clinton had the serious potential of tearing the Democratic Part...
Joe Andrews, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee in the late 1990s, warned on Thursday the actions of Sen. Hillary Clinton had the serious potential of tearing the Democratic Part...
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- Bluesage I'm a Fan of Bluesage 5 fans permalink

All I can say is that Obama must be throwing around some big money and big promises. Did anyone even know who this character was before today? Another day, another Opportunist for Obama. Must be tough trying to save your campaign when you've been outed as a phony and let's just say less than truthful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 05/02/2008

You are the one who has been outed, posing as an educated person, educated people don't go around trashing the parents of people who have served in the military you cracker ass. White trailer trash hag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 05/02/2008

you've been outed, posing as an educated person, when educated people don't insult the parents of dead soldiers. you cow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 05/02/2008

Obama doesn't have anything to do with this, this is you disrespecting the dead and the parent of the dead. you old bat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 05/02/2008
- Vern58 I'm a Fan of Vern58 13 fans permalink
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Yes, if you really paid attention to Bubbas administration, you would recoignize the former head of the Party. And Obama does not need to pay anybody, people come to him quite on their own. Sorry but your comment is appalingly off base and inapropriately malicious. Id say you don't know any more about the Democratic Party than a pig knows about sunday.
Thanks trollski

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 05/02/2008
- Bluesage I'm a Fan of Bluesage 5 fans permalink

Oh Good Lord, did you ever think of maybe reading even a little bit about me before you throw out things like trollski? I know as much about the Democratic party as anyone of you here know and you know no more than the msm has told you today about this man. His name has not been heard anywhere since the early 90's and why should it be? He was a nobody then and a nobody now. For any Obama supporters to even use the words inappropriately malicious is hypocrisy at it's best. It just gets worse every day now that Obama's veneer has cracked and people are seeing who he really is and what he really stands for and they are not buying it. Now, I realize that I'm risking being called a troll (oops, you already covered that one) a repiglican, definately a racist because I question the Great Obama but you just make yourselves look like the fool when you do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/02/2008
- stanjz I'm a Fan of stanjz 6 fans permalink

The system in Washington didn't change under the Clintons. This is why the corporate run media is afraid of Barack and attack him because they don't want the "people" to have the power. The corporate media is very happy with the power they have to manipulate elections and keep their taxes low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 05/02/2008

Bye, bye BILLARY Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 05/01/2008

My God! Who is this yahoo!!!!! I've been a loyal Dem for many years but I've never heard of him. Why is this post going absolutely bonkers over his switch (hitter). He's now had his 15 minutes of fame - good night America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/01/2008

Yes, it is a little offensive to accuse the Clintons, after two terms in the White House, and saving the Democrats from the ignominy of Jimmy Carter and their emasculation under Reagan/Bush, of destroying the party. The fact is that the Clintons won because of their rejection of the old liberal order and their elitist leaders. Now these elitists want Hillary to GORE herself so they can be saved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/01/2008

Nicely said. I think you have identified the source of Obama's elitist attitude.

This guy just appears to be cannon fodder that Obama has collected and is rolling out as his big strategy to win Indiana. We'll see next week how well it worked.

Hillary appears to have some actual momentum now, but there is still a long way to go. Need to keep pushing and not depend on media or anyone else to keep things moving. A laser focus for the next few days might be just the thing that finally begins to turn this around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 05/02/2008
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 78 fans permalink

re Pagebike "After the Clinton sav[ed] the Democrats from the ignominy of Jimmy Carter and their emasculation under Reagan/Bush".

Oh, you mean like that great Democratic Party LOSS of the Senate AND HOUSE majorities in 1994, because Hillary's arrogant, elitist, secretive, give-not-an-inch Health Care fiasco blew up in Hillary's face... giving ugly, unloved back-bench bomb-throwing Repub Minority Leader Newt Gingrich the reams of ammunition he needed to portray ALL Democrats (not just Bill and Hillary) as dictatorial, out -of-touch elitists?
btw, Jimmy Carter was probably robbed of his re-election by the "October Surprise", Bush-CIA back-door connections with Iran getting the Revolutionary government to HOLD THE US HOSTAGES _PAST_ the 1980 election, to make Carter look weak. Yep, the Bush-Republicans were probably dealing with "terrorists" behind the back of the US government!
Further, Al Gore WON election 2000 - if not for the 8 years of Repubs relentless scandal-mongering the Clintons, he would have won that election in a walk.

And, finally, the reason Al Gore did loose the White House is because he selected CONSERVATIVE Democrat JOE LIEBERMAN to be his running mate. IF Gore had repeated the 1992 ticket - TWO WHITE SOUTHERN Democrats - he would have won Tennessee, Arkansas, and election 2000 in a walk.

Gore didn't "lose" 2000 because he was "too liberal" - he lost because he had Traitor Joe, "Republican in a Democrat's clothes" Lieberman as his running mate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/02/2008

And therefore, your ignorance is the basis of calling the former head of the DNC a 'yahoo'?

Apparently, being a Hillary sycophant, you assume that because he sees Hillary for what she is (a pandering, do-anythin­g-to-get-e­lected opportunist) he must be a nobody.

Inform yourself before you drag your ignorance into the public square.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 05/01/2008
- gregjones I'm a Fan of gregjones 16 fans permalink
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HILLARY HAS LOST THE ENTIRE BLACK VOTE....FO­REVER !!!

This is the message being sent by blacks to the DNC (and the superdelegates). There is no way Hillary will defeat McCain without the support of Black America aka the guaranteed Democratic vote. Hillary started out with 82% of the black support. But as Blacks learned more about her (Goldwater Girl...Aga­inst Civil Rights Act '64....It was LBJ...Not MLK....etc­) combined with Bill's (...fairy tale....Je­ssie Won S.C. too...etc.­)...blacks were shocked beyond repair. (remember.­...we luved Bill so much we called him 'The First Black President'­)....but never again....W­HERE'S THAT STORY. This has nothing to do with Obama !!!! We (blacks) have awakened to the truth about the Clintons..­....

Greg Jones
www.Blacks4Barack.org
(A Multi-Racial, Grassroots Org...Dedi­cated To Truth)

p.s. Blacks4Barack.org started in Feb. 2007 (Greg Jones) when VERY few blacks were for Obama.....­they were ALL for Hillary !!!!! We knew that Obama was the best person to run our country and bring our troops home and that is why we started our grassroots organization. (Not because he's black...bu­t because he's most qualified) The more black voters learned about Obama...th­e more they liked him.... the more they learned about the Clintons..­..the angrier they got !!!!!!!!!!!!!! We appreciate our friends of ALL races....w­ho are working together..­..for the very best candidate.­...to put America on the right track.....­Barack Obama ! THANK YOU !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/01/2008

You're the one who has racial prejudice. "Blacks4Barack" speaks for itself. Also, your post is incredibly dishonest. Hillary was not opposed to the Civil Rights Act. Yes, she was born into a Republican family, much like Howard Dean was. This is not unique, it happens quite frequently. Also, she DID not denigrate MLK. She said that "MLK's dream came true when LBJ got the Civil Rights Act passed." THAT'S a fact! I'm black and I certainly know that is true!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/01/2008
- gregjones I'm a Fan of gregjones 16 fans permalink
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GOOGLE: 'Hillary, Goldwater'­.....learn what Goldwater was all about.....­HILLARY WAS A PROUD GOLDWATER GIRL.....O­nce you learn the facts.....­please share them with your friends...­..and thanks for your response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 05/01/2008
- rsg5354 I'm a Fan of rsg5354 8 fans permalink
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I think you have made a valid point here. I'm also black and had no intentions of backing Hillary Clinton at all. My first choice was John Edwards until I heard Barack Obama announced his candidacy. I have followed Barack Obama's career for a long time. He gets my vote in Nov. The Clinton's are users. Most Black Women are voting for her just becuse she's a woman. That doesn't fly with me. I don't like her. Barack Obama brings hope to the future of this Country. Hillary like Bush and McCain will bring nothing to this Country but more GRIEF.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/01/2008

This black woman is NOT voting for hillary. She is a liar, and that is plain and simple. bill clinton urged hillary to run so he could have his 3rd term after getting impeached. And white democrats are trying to give it to him. Well, until the right wing grabs them both by the balls again.
I think I will enjoy watching the democratic party implode, especially after watching how they have belittled Obama 24/7 for the last 4 months. I am changing my party registration to Independen­t....the democratic party can go to hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 05/02/2008
- janex I'm a Fan of janex 4 fans permalink

Well, I am white, and I have been appalled at the Clintons' behavior. I have a very uneasy feeling that they are doing a lot of race-baiting that goes right past me but is understood by like minded people.

The fact of the matter is, Barack Obama is an extraordinary candidate at an extraordinary moment in history, and our country will benefit greatly and in ways we cannot foresee from an Obama presidency.

The other fact is that Hillary Clinton was a bitter young woman who has developed into a bitter old woman, and she feels entitled to anything and everything when in fact, she is deserving of nothing.

Her 35-years of experience includes voting for a war without taking the time to read the National Intelligence Estimate, a spectacular failure at health care reform that helped propel the House into Republican control, and some questionable work as an attorney defending a man who was accused of raping a twelve-year-old girl. Hillary attacked the girl's credibility with a documented viciousness that belies belief.
Hillary does what is good for Hillary, and she doesn't really care about anybody else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 05/01/2008
- Bluesage I'm a Fan of Bluesage 5 fans permalink

Has it ever occured to you that YOU are the racist? Now blacks are going to blackmail the party and threaten the party if Obama is not the nominee. How in the hell can you say that he is the most qualified? That doesn't even make any sense. Qualified to do what exactly? He was a Senator for one year and then hit the campaign trail. Do you honestly believe that this man is shocked that his pastor is a hateful, racist man who hates America and Whitey? I don't like being threatened and I think you and Obama will find that many of us don't buy into this Hope & Change, Yes We Can bullshit. By the way, he didn't coin Yes We Can - he stole it from Ceasar Chavez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/01/2008

IN CASE YOU MISSED THE ANSWER DIMWIT HERE'S A RESPONSE TO YOUR SNIDE REMARKS:

kenjisan:

I have learned something through the death of my son in Iraq, I have learned not to trust people who say that they were not really for the war and then turns around and says "Obliterate Iran". I have learned a lot in my 2 years since the death of my son. I have learned that people here know nothing about the sacrifices of the families of the dead. Like you, you come here and slander a man you know nothing about, and for what? What do you accomplish at the end of the day? My son gave his life for America and for Iraqis. What do you give?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 05/01/2008

Sen. Clinton's judgement cannot be compared to Sen. Obama's and neither can their sincerity to run for a public service. The voters in the remaining nine primaries should reconsider their support for the Clintons. This is why Sen. Clinton is not electable.

http://www.sftt.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=10&p=205231

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/01/2008

It is great to see leaders who are willing to step up to the plate and LEAD! Just imagine if more of them had the courage to put a STOP to the madness a month ago.

At one point it did not make sense to call for HRC to step aside but once it became mathematically impossible to win without having the super's giving it to her, HRC should have been gracious and patriotic enough for country and the party, to DO THE RIGHT THING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 05/01/2008

This is going to backfire. Don't we know that we need Hillary voters to win in November?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/01/2008

What's going to backfire? Somebody making a principled decision based on what he feels is best for the Democratic Party and the country and urging others to do so? That's "leadership" and "courage", IMHO. If the "Hillary voters" you're referring to can't respect that, then as the saying goes, they'll "get the government they deserve".

OBAMA 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/01/2008

You better "HOPE" he will win in November. I see another John Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/01/2008
- Calinative I'm a Fan of Calinative 21 fans permalink

If he can switch from Hillary, so can you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/01/2008
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

"Amen!", Calinative!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 05/01/2008

The sane members of both Obama and Clinton camps will vote for the other if only to keep insane John McCain away from the controls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 05/01/2008
- Bluesage I'm a Fan of Bluesage 5 fans permalink

Don't be too sure about this. Good Democrats will work their tails off to give us much larger majorities in the House and Senate so that McCrazy can warm the chair for the next four years without doing damage but the Obama supporters, his wife, his pastor and Obama himself has turned us off so completely that it will be very hard to cast a vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/01/2008
- rubicon101 I'm a Fan of rubicon101 7 fans permalink

what right has he to say that? Hillary has every right that any american has to run for politics. The fact is that she is the most qualified candidate to be president. Hillary is the toughest, smartest and most capable of making things happen for the betterment of this country.
Just because you have an opinion that you think is right, don't go spreading your BS with me or any other of the millions of americans who voted for Hillary as their candidate.
If anyone is going to destroy th edemocratic party, it is those that rail against Hillary to get out of the race. This is a democracy damn it and Hillary is staying until she decides or recieves the nomination and you will like it Mr. Andrews. You're not any different than anyone else although you may presume that you are..You are just a person that has a point of view and you made your point.
in closing I would say that if america knew then, what we know now of Barack Obama..the race would be over and the democratic party would be concentrating on the general election.
Barack is unelectable come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 05/01/2008
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

Hey Rubicon - What qualifies her?? Her years as the White House housewife? Actually, Obama has more experience, hand on experience in government, than she does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/01/2008

Barack is definately electable! He is a man of integrity and character and honesty. Hillary and McCain only pander to please what they think people want to hear. For example, the ridiculous gas tax holiday which will save americans on average about a half tank of gas over the course of the summer. It will also take away the money used for repairing the highways and infrastructure across the US. Those who are for this will be driving across bridges badly in need of repair and end up in the water, as what happened in Minnesota earlier this year, all for about a 30.00 dollar savings. How utterly ridiculous! People would rather have a scheming, lying candidate with no character or integrity who will destroy the democratic party to win. However, I have faith that the american people are not that ignorant. While in the voting booth, hopefully people will use their own mind and conscience and vote for the candidate who displays integrity and who is trying to change washington politics for the better, instead of listening to the media and the pompous political pundits. Bill Clinton did a lot of damage during his administration such as Nafta and the Telecommunications act of 1996. Don't give Hillary the chance to do more damage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 05/01/2008

Divisive and unprincipled? Obama has been calling whites racists. Isn't that divisive? Any legitimate criticism is called racism. Sen. Obama's shoe's untied? "Racist! Are you saying blacks can't tie knots?"
His book says his grandmother feared ONE AGGRESIVE BLACK PANHANDLER. His speech changes it to "confessed her fear of BLACK MEN WHO PASSED BY HER ON THE STRET". A couple days later he explains "she is a TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" .Typical white racist.
BitterGate. Everyone focuses on bitterness, guns and religion, while "antipathy to people who aren't like them" is passed over. Bitter white racists.
Obama never heard Wright'ssermons, then he did. Wright was "a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith" and "He strengthened my faith" , suddenly "he was never my, quote/unquote spiritual adviser, he was never my spiritual mentor, he was my Pastor." Look the word up, Sen Obama.. It fits your first definition of your relationship with Rev. Wright, not the new, expedient one. Principled? Not!
He claims he can bring us together. Well, you'll never get me into the tent by calling me, or my family, my white friends and neighbors and co-workers, in my very ethnically diverse inner-city neighborhood racists.
Sen. Obama hopes to shame white people into voting for him to prove we are not racists.. He rewrites history with the blithe abandon of one who knows he won't be called to task like Sen. Clinton has, because that would be racist. Uh-uh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/01/2008
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Awwwww... I didn't know that you were so sensitive. "Typical" is SO much more insulting than calling someone "N-----" ever was!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 05/01/2008
- beastmode I'm a Fan of beastmode 2 fans permalink

the charges of racism are so pathetically desperate and shrill it's embarrassing. You do realize that he's half white, and that he was raised by his white family? You think he's prejudiced against his own family? That would be like hating yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/01/2008

Once your meds kick in you can apply for that new kind of stupid you've perfected. My post is about being called a racisc, not being called typical. It's typical of a Barack supporter to bring in the Nword and whine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/01/2008
- DofG I'm a Fan of DofG 50 fans permalink
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If there is only One Soul in the universe, then, the enmity we have for others, shaped by our perceptions is an expression of Self-hatred! It is the stirring up of our "emotion sediment", not yet understood, or restrained. Therefore, the wrongs we see in others, where universal beauty also lies, are the wrongs we see in ourSELF!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/01/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

Well said, DofG!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 05/01/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

Obama has never called white people racist stop lying it make you look to much like Sen Clinton!

Everyone! Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!! I can not believe this is being hidden so well by the media and Clinton supporters claim she has a chance of winning once she is convicted in this case that she is apparently guilty of along with Gov Ed Randell and Former Pres Clinton. This will all be over soon! I know the superdelegates are watching this!

P.S. all Obama supporter should start talking about this in every post maybe the media will get the idea ! let the truth be told!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 05/01/2008
- sydney01 I'm a Fan of sydney01 5 fans permalink

I am a white middle aged woman, and I firmly believe in Obama's abilities. If you actually look at the facts, and not the spin, you will see that he has consistently shown principles and values of all Americans. He has worked his entire adult life to help the lower and middle classes. He is a true self made man and civil servant.

Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 05/01/2008
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

You are so right about this man (Obama) consistently showing the principles and values of all Americans. But, some people, who live according to the Clinton "ethics", do not have the sight to see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/01/2008

Dear CalVoter,

You're making it up, me thinks, hoping the Big Whopper will have impact because it is so huge. You can't come up with an actual quote or even an inference of your allegations.

You gotta be from Hillaryland, possibly with subrosa support from the gunning engines of Johnny McCain's swiftboaters.

You oughta try another gig.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 05/01/2008

The post is full of quotes from Barack. You apparently don't listen to your candidate.­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/01/2008

Well, now this writer needs to explain to me how giving people a small taxbreak over the summer destroys democratic policies with respect to energy. I am a little dense today, do not get it. Also, I fail to see why this man's endorsement should preempt people's choice of candidate. You know, I already voted...FO­R HILLARY...­There is nothing divisive about my vote. I like her policies, a.o. with respect to universal healthcare. Obama does nothing for people like me with *preexisting* conditions, which, by the way, were NOT caused by irresponsible living, drinking, overeating, or whatever. Some *preexisting* conditions do not make persons unable to work. And some of us with *preexisting * conditions want to work, have the skills, the degrees and experience to do so. Not allowing us to work, as insurers will insist upon, costs everyone a lot of money. I might vote for Obama if he is the nominee, however, I do not know enough about him. He is an untested candidate. And, if he is not divisive, then certainly his crowd of hangers-on are. I especially do not like the *vox populi* of the Obama enthusiasts. Their voices are different from what Obama advertises as his own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/01/2008
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If you want to cut back use, why lower the price? That 18.4 cents goes into maintaining the roads & bridges that this administration has been barely caring for in the first place. How many people who do that work will be laid off because there won't be money to pay them.

Pandering to the voters with a half tank of gas instead of developing a real energy policy is just playing us for fools... which Hillary has become very good at.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 05/01/2008
- sydney01 I'm a Fan of sydney01 5 fans permalink

***Obama's plan DOES stop insurance companies from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions!***

Have you read his plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 05/01/2008

I have two pre-existing conditions and you will be very sorry to have voted for Hillary. She blew it last time and she'll blow it again because she won't work WITH people. We aren't EVER going to get "universal" healthcare in this country. Wait and see. IF she puts in place (and I doubt she'll be able to overcome Congressional gridlock and lobbying interests) a mandate, we will be totally screwed. NO ONE is mandating that insurance companies provide controlled prices. They are only suggesting price "reduction­s." So what does that mean? People who have no health problems will get good prices and those of us who are currently blocked from any new policies due to pre-existing conditions or ongoing illnesses will be charged through the wazoo in order to pay for the mandated proposals. Mandated health insurance policies but no mandates on the companies to be equitable, they will work out some incredibly complex pricing system (like Medicare currently has for any oddball needs or expensive health issues) so that we won't be able to afford our policies AND we'll pay a fine if we don't pay for coverage. It's all smoke and mirrors just like this tax break for gas. What will happen? The oil ocmpanies will simply raise prices for "volatile market reasons." to make their profit. Smoke and mirrors with politicians and corporations. American people will buy into any dumb marketing or political scheme. It's sad and appalling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 05/01/2008
- RobinL I'm a Fan of RobinL 14 fans permalink

Beautiful letter, Joe----THANK YOU!!!! Let's hope it works.....­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/01/2008

Thank you Joe Andrew. I guess we need you to tell the rest of us who we should vote for. With someone like Joe Andrew supporting Obama is the exact reason why most people think that Obama is an elitist. Who is Joe Andrew and why his vote count more than us? The nominating process is not even over. Why can we see through the process that I am sure that someone like Joe Andrew came up with. Are we changing the rules as we go alone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/01/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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You are a non-abiding fool. Think!!! Obama an elitist? Like you have enjoyed all the privileges because of your skin "color"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 05/01/2008

I second that emotion Scarllatti. Why do people like the one you replied to let the media tell them anything and they believeit. Thanks for setting this guy straight about Obama being an elistist Scarllatti.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/01/2008

Thanks you Scarllatti. I am not a fool. Only a fool look-up to a politician. By the way how do you know what skin color mine is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/01/2008
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Since when does a former First Lady who went to Wellesley and Yale Law, who shares a multi-million dollar annual salary, who is chauffered and private-jetted everywhere by the Secret Service get to call Barack Obama... or ANYONE... elitist?

Open up you eyes! Has Bush's stupidity rubbed off on that many Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 05/01/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

Everyone! Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!! I can not believe this is being hidden so well by the media and Clinton supporters claim she has a chance of winning once she is convicted in this case that she is apparently guilty of along with Gov Ed Randell and Former Pres Clinton. This will all be over soon! I know the superdelegates are watching this!

P.S. all Obama supporter should start talking about this in every post maybe the media will get the idea ! let the truth be told!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 05/01/2008
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

Yeah, and google, "The Fellowship". That is the cult to which she belongs. They are an elitist right-wing cult that believes elitists should rule this country. It is a fascist group whose founder is a guy named Coe; they are based in D.C. There was an article in Mother Jones magazine and The Nation. Not one word about this in the MSM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 05/01/2008
- kenjisan I'm a Fan of kenjisan 2 fans permalink

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/1/14518/81345/305/507172

Wolfson now claiming that Andrew not from Indiana - you mean like Hillary is not from IL, NY, PA, AR ????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 05/01/2008
- Bluesage I'm a Fan of Bluesage 5 fans permalink

Hey, someone calling himself pagopago is really going to the mat for you. Oh wait, you are one in the same, right? I thought so. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/02/2008

why are you replying here? I am not Kenjisan, don't know the person, but I know rude and callous when I see it, and that's what you are. Have you seen this person posting here since 3:14 PM? Are you out of your tree you are an old bat with no life, so you come here and make accusatory remarks and play the I'm an white educated female, as if that means anything. It doesn't you are no better than anyone else you old bat. That is probably why you have a hard on for Hillary, because you are two of a kind.

I caught your remarks quite by chance, and it so angered me to think that someone could be so rude and dismissive to someone who lost a child. That is cruel and uncaring. I am a mother, I would never wish that for anyone, but your dismissive attitude really got my goat. This person does not post much, and I don't know why. He obviously does care about America or he wouldn't bother with people like you.

So if I get banned, fine - but you are a disgrace to women and I am ashamed of people like you. It's make me so thankful that I am NOT white, because you are so UGLY, just as is to be expected of white trailer trash like you posing.

I hope you rot in hell you calloused trash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/02/2008

white trailer trash, I am not kenjisan, that's japanese, you dumb old white hag

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 05/02/2008
- cacique88 I'm a Fan of cacique88 2 fans permalink
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Hooray for Joe Andrew!!! Yet another Clinton Superdelegate and ex appointee who jumps off the "Train to Destruction" the Clinton campaign has become. He must be admired for his courage. He joins a growing line of former Cabinet officials and appointees who are putting the Party over personal expedience. Certainly it could have been easier to wait or to do nothing but he chose to take a stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/01/2008
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