Poll: Clinton Beats McCain In Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio

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First Posted: 05- 1-08 10:37 AM   |   Updated: 05- 9-08 05:12 AM

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Clinton Swing States

Quinnipiac:

Winning among white working class voters, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds strong leads over Arizona Sen. John McCain - and runs much better than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama - in three critical swing states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to three simultaneous Quinnipiac University Swing State polls released today. If Sen. Obama is the Democratic nominee, he's in a tight race with McCain in Florida and Ohio, but takes Pennsylvania.

This is Sen. Clinton's strongest overall performance since the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University began special surveys two years ago in the three largest and most important swing states in the Electoral College. This latest survey finds:

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Winning among white working class voters, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds strong leads over Arizona Sen. John McCain - and runs much better than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama - in three critical swin...
Winning among white working class voters, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds strong leads over Arizona Sen. John McCain - and runs much better than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama - in three critical swin...
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It's just too bad for Mrs. Clinton that it won't matter because she won't be running against Mr. McCain. Mr. Obama will. Let's see how those polls look once we have sorted out this democratic snafu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/01/2008
- Gilda I'm a Fan of Gilda 7 fans permalink
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All republican strongholds!
What does that say about McCain?
What does that say about Hillary??

GET OUT OF THE RACE B____!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/01/2008

STFU C__T

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/01/2008

Much to the dismay of the Obama supporters and the democratic party, the tide appears to have turned completely. Super Tuesday was along time ago and it appears the novelty of Sen Obama has cooled and his handlers build a brand campaign is looking not so fresh any more,. So on the same day polls show this trend post Pa primary widening in Senator Clinton's favor, the party leaders and other super delegates are jumping on the Obama ship for one reason only, to end this contest Tuesday night. Forget the actual primary voters, we need to get this wrapped up so by proclamation the contest is over..... Okay, so here is my suggestion, both of these candidates are claiming to be uniters, so join together and decide who will be the Pres and the VP amongst yourselves. now. I can not imagine anyone but Senators Clinton and Obama being able to better unite the party together. They need to mend this division asap, before the wounds become too much to heal before November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

mabell... unless you want to see what is left of the american middle class shipped overseas..­. unless you want another four years of clinton scandals.. unless you want to be lied to over and over and over again... unless you want to see your grandchildren sent off to war(s) that are stupid and without merit... then you better drop down to your knees and pray to god that the "tide" has not changed.

but... if none of that matters to you? then you should sleep just fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/01/2008
- Promisin1 I'm a Fan of Promisin1 2 fans permalink

I'm an Obama supporter but I must give Hillary her due. Her gas tax position is brilliant politically. The gas tax position wasn't designed for the informed public like us Huffington Post readers who don't get our news from MSM. This position resonates with key Hillary support voter groups. It really doesn't matter what the experts say about how ridiculous her gas tax propasal is. This position is designed for the mainly uninformed masses and it has worked in closing the gap between she and Obama in NC and IN. In Texas, our "do-nothing" current Republican Governor Rick Perry came out in support of raising the speed limit from 65-75 on rural highways one week before election day. He was able to easily defeat his democratic opponent while having essentially no real record of accomplishments to run on in first term as Governor, but plenty of favors for lobbyists. One hot button issue can and often does win elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

the american public falls for this crap every time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/01/2008

She needs to fill up her tank and attend this meeting for sure in November: Read and weep!

http://www.paulvclinton.com/060817_second_amended_complaint.swf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/01/2008

'Her gas tax position is brilliant politically"

Only in that it is self-serving - not serving the people. Don't you get it? First of all, just how much of a savings will the average person benefit from this? I am not talking about the uber-rich who drive those gas guzzling SUVs and can afford to drive all over tarnation without any thought as to how much gasoline costs. I am talking about the average Joe. Probably $25 over 3 months. Big whooping deal!!

BUT, you are not taking into consideration that Hillary proposes to tax the oil companies. What do you think they are going to do???? Sit there and take it - take the big cut into their profits? Of course not - they are going to raise the price of gasoline by AT LEAST the additional amount they are taxed.

And then when the additional tax on the oil companies is over and applied back into our costs at the gas stations - do you think the oil companies are then going to lower the price of gasoline to offset the amount they had to raise it to accommodate the extra taxes? Do you really???

No way - they will keep that raise in the price in place. What a brilliant ploy on Hillary's behalf as a way to "pay back" the oil companies for any $ or favors that the Clintons received from them!!! Brilliant, I tell you!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 05/01/2008

Way to be out of touch $25 bucks is a lot of money to many people in todays econemy. IT means an extra night out, when you couldn't afford it before. IT means an extra toy for your child. Is it pandering, of course it is. BUt this is politics. Obama panders on a daily basis, wake up.

I love when idiots like you speculate some big conspiracy that somehow she is paying someone back for something. First, Republicans HATE HRC's plan because of the windfall profits tax, which they believe she will make permenant. 2nd, none of this matters, none of them will take office until NOVEMBER..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 05/01/2008

Bet I know who paid for this poll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/01/2008
- myna I'm a Fan of myna 15 fans permalink

Some of these polls were taken BEFORE Obama's denouncement of Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 05/01/2008

I am a democrat. Regardless of who wins this primary I am a democrat. I will vote democrat. If Hillary Clintons somehow wins the primary I will hold my nose and hit the big D button. I will vote democrat. I ask that all Hillary supporters do the same. If Obama wins hold you nose and push the big D. We owe it to ourselves, our children and our country. There is more at stake than our feelings or interests. Four more years of republicans will do irreversable damage on various levels. Please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 05/01/2008

I'm an indep. and I can't vote for Clinton.
I'll vote NOTA (none of the above) or I'll skip the president box and move to the next box to vote.
Voting NOTA sends a clear message to the Democrats (I vote, but not for clinton)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/01/2008

But that will only help McCain. Do you really think he will do less harm to our country and our planet? Is there anyway to change your mind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/01/2008
- Nancyann I'm a Fan of Nancyann 6 fans permalink

Voting for Hillary Clinton is like putting Richard Nixon back in the White House. She is a liar and a fraud with enemies lists, secrecy and cannot be trusted. So go ahead if that's what you want....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 05/01/2008

No. It is definitely not what I want. But I find a republican far more scarier. Plus I am trying to see if there is any hope from Hillary supporters to vote for Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 05/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

i have been saying it for a while.

Hilary Clinton is our Richard Nixon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

if hilary wins...

then i know there are millions who want to just start the whole party over from scratch. and we can't do that by voting for the Clintons again. this is going to be painful at first... but we need to clean this whole thing up. and god knows it can't be done with those two back in the White House.

i was fooled twice into voting for them. now we have war and bank dereg and the middle class being shipped overseas and not a damn thing was done for the health of the planet much less healthcare for us.. in the eight years we were held hostage to the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/01/2008

She had better scratch her head and try to figure out how to get out of the mess she and Bill are in.....I think she will need to learn how to fill up her gas tank to attend this meeting:
Read and weep!

http://www.paulvclinton.com/060817_second_amended_complaint.swf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 05/01/2008

Do you honestly think it is possible to start the whole party over from scratch? Would joining a third party like the green party be likely option for the disgruntled? Do you really feel Hillary and McCain are one in the same as far as issues are concerned?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 05/01/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

Your statement has no basis in fact. There are just as many Dems supporting HRC as there are supporting Obama. You are acting like HRC has 3% of the vote. Please try to realize this most obvious piece of information. You like Obama and he may lose and you are upset...ok­ay, but saying "millions will want to star the party from scratch" is just ridiculous.

HRC is a terrific candidate and she has many, many people supporting her. They are good people, too, despite what you may have read on blogs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/01/2008
- cmeans29 I'm a Fan of cmeans29 3 fans permalink

Polls, polls, polls. They change like the weather.

Six Months Ago:

* McCain was behind in the republican polls
* Romney and Rudy G. where ahead in the polls.
* Hillary was predicted to win "Super Tuesday" in a landside.
* Gas was less than $3.00 per gallon.
* Edwards, Richardson, Biden, etc., were still candidates.
* Hillary's negative ratings were below 40 percent.
* Rev. Wright . Who is that?
* Bosnia gaffe. What is that?
* Mark Penn. Chief strategist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 05/01/2008

well said,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 05/01/2008

Mm, good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 05/01/2008

McCain is going to be a formidable opponent this fall. As a veteran, in a family of decorated veterans, his allure is strong. His military experience coupled with his extensive political experience make his a very solid candidate. His economic plan is the most conservative among all three candidates.
That said, Clinton is a tough as nails politician. That is sorely needed. She is also incredibly savvy and will fight for the American people.
If the GE comes to Clinton/McCain I will have to look further into their platforms before I make a decision. His military experience and economic positions are quite alluring.
If the GE falls to an Obama/McCain, there is no question. I will wholeheartedly support McCain.

America needs experience and fiscal conservatism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 05/01/2008
- Nancyann I'm a Fan of Nancyann 6 fans permalink

She is also incredibly savvy and will fight for the American people.

SHE WILL ONLY FIGHT FOR HERSELF!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/01/2008

"She is also incredibly savvy and will fight for the American people."

Do you really believe that??? Are you talking about the same Hillary that has the oil companies, the pharmaceutical companies, the health care system, the foreign trade lobbyists and many, many more in her pocket? All of these companies that are behind Hillary are in the business for themselves, under the disguise of being in the business to help people. They own Hillary and Bill. In no way are they going to let Hillary fight them to help the American people. No way - never!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 05/01/2008

You are not a true politician unless you can take the money of special interests and still vote against them. Obama has taken fed lobbiest money in all his prior elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 05/01/2008
- millertime I'm a Fan of millertime 2 fans permalink
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What is so great about McCain? The guy has flipped flopped more than any candidate in recent memory. He talks about taking on special interests, but then hires lobbyists to run his campaign..­.I guess that's what he meant by "taking on special interests"­.....the pastor he sought to endorse him makes Rev. Wright look mild......­he knows nothing about the economy...­..voted against an MLK holiday...­not to mention that he's a horrible public speaker, he's old, and has anger issues....­.this guy is Bush and Kerry wrapped up into one, old, war ravaged man......o­nce the Dems stop ripping each other to shreds, I'm sure you'll hear more about these deficienci­es.....thi­s guys only claim to fame is that he was a POW, which I respect tremendously, but that's no reason to make him the figurehead of our country...­.....lets wake up and realize that a complete change is what this country needs.....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 05/01/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

Haha. If the polls have Obama up, they are "credible" and show that America wants change. If the polls have HRC up, they are not trustworthy or are useless or don't represent the voters accurately.

HRC is clearly gaining in polls and has started to pull away from Obama in certain instances. She gave a great interview on Fox and people are staarting to realize what a terrific candidate she is. You can smear her all you want, but it oesn't change the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/01/2008

Of course she gaining in the Polls because it's been a negative news cycle for Obama for weeks. A whole month of bitter-gate and Rev Wright. The thing is though tracking polls only really matter if they track a definite trend over an extended period of time. Up two days and down 2 days just proves the electorate really hasn't made a decision. Hillary Clinton won't win so what does it matter. She needs well over sixty percent of the remaining super delegates to win the nomination and today alone, Barack Obama has 5 times as many new super delegates as Hillary does--despite what ever testicular fortitude she may posses.

If you can't tell which way the wind is blowing then that's your own business. At least you have the poll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 05/01/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

HRC can absolutely win. Neither candidate can get to 2024 without the SD's and their only requirement for choosing a cnadidate is that they think that is the best candidate to win the GE. Whoever has won more pledged delegates, more states or more popular votes means nothing if neither candidate gets to 2024. What will end up happening is the SD's will all vote together as 1 group for either HRC or Obama and that person will get the nomination. Who they endorse today or tomorrow is irrelevant as they can change their minds a million times. If they continue to see weakness in Obama and HRC wins IN and wins or comes within single digits in NC they will register this and she will also gain in the popular vote as well. If Obama wins IN and NC they will be more inclined to vote for him.

But make no mistake about it, HRC can legitimately win the nomination. She doesn't need to win 70% of the popular vote from here on out and she will be earning the nomination if it happens. The SD's will decide the winner because NEITHER candidate can get to 2024 on their own and when that happens the SD's will detrmone the election based on who is the best GE candidate. This is what the MSM and blogosphere doesn't want you to be informed about. they want to keep repeating the myth that HRC cannot win and it is just not true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 05/01/2008
- rmetz74 I'm a Fan of rmetz74 10 fans permalink

And Obama creates several new swing states in the South, which have been red states for decades. And polls about the general don't mean much if the Dems haven't even started campaigning in it yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 05/01/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

Obama's gaffes the past 3 months have killed any chance he has to make inroads with states like Missouri or Georgia or Alabam or anywhere in the South really. There are just not enough Democrats in those states. He needs the blue collar white vote and he more or less threw that out the window lately between bitter and clinging & Rev Wright.

HRC will win with the roadmap of the past 20 years, as she will win in PA, OH and Florida. That is the whole general eelction right there. If Obama cannot win 2 of 3 of those states, not to mention he is having trouble in polls in MA, NY and NJ, there are just not enough smaller states in the South, West or Midwest to make up the difference of losing even 1 of thise larger states.

HRC is more electable in the GE. The MSM and blogosphere doesn't want to talk about it because they have been pumping up Obama for the past year, but it is becoming more and more obvious thet only HRC can defeat the GOP in the GE.

Plus, factor in that she would likely have him as her VP (although he would not have her as his VP) she will maintain a significant portion of his supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 05/01/2008
- rmetz74 I'm a Fan of rmetz74 10 fans permalink

The familiar crystal ball argument (with a little mass mind-reading thrown in for good measure.)

You don't know what will happen in the general. Because no one knows. We have 6 months until November, and to quote a post above:

"Six Months Ago:

* McCain was behind in the republican polls
* Romney and Rudy G. where ahead in the polls.
* Hillary was predicted to win "Super Tuesday" in a landside.
* Gas was less than $3.00 per gallon.
* Edwards, Richardson, Biden, etc., were still candidates.
* Hillary's negative ratings were below 40 percent.
* Rev. Wright . Who is that?
* Bosnia gaffe. What is that?
* Mark Penn. Chief strategist­."

And you conveniently ignore the point that polls about the general are meaningless until the Dems are actually campaigning in it.

You think HRC is more electable in the general. Ok. A lot of people (even a likely majority of people) disagree. You've stated what you think will happen. Can you admit that your prediction is no better than anyone else's?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 05/01/2008

Obama's gaffes? You mean Hillary's kitchen sink tactics that are only hot air lifting a hot air balloon into the air? That hot air balloon eventually will run out of hot air. Care to place any bets as to what its speed of descent will be at that point?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 05/01/2008
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 30 fans permalink
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Please!!! Democrats are going to win those states anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/01/2008
- sef2121 I'm a Fan of sef2121 5 fans permalink

Ohio and Florida? There is a reason why they are called "swing" states. Barack is way behind in all the poll averages there. If electability is the issue here, as Dean says, we better line up behind Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 05/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

do you know how many NEW voters there are in those states? NEW democrat registered voters?

come one folks! READ SOMETHING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/01/2008

You people are getting to be as good as Hillary at dismissing all the other 47 states plus DC and territories. They all count too!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 05/01/2008
- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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This poll is useless.
McCain has yet to be vetted by the left. ...
It's my opinion that McCain can and will go down like dominoes.
It could be brought up that if McCain were to be elected there would have to be a military draft. That word....dr­aft...will effect millions of Americans who have children, brothers..­...et al
That plus his age, his temper, his memory.
Easy pickins'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/01/2008

Clinton, please drop dead, uh, drop out! Obama can win PA, OH, FL against McCain. Your spin doesn't work. Please stop intimidate superdelegates who supported you earlier in the race from changing to Obama. They should all do it by now to unite the party because you can't win the nomination. what do you want to divide the party in the middle for? Tell us the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/01/2008
- rascalov I'm a Fan of rascalov 4 fans permalink

Media, and their polls, are telling you who to vote for.
Now just give up and let our wealthy owners make the decision for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 05/01/2008

I get your point - but never will they disenfranchise my vote - only (in the words of Charleston Heston) "out of my cold dead hands"!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/01/2008
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