New Photos Reveal Horror Of Hiroshima (GRAPHIC IMAGES)

The Huffington Post   |   May 3, 2008 11:04 AM


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Sean Malloy, a professor at the University of California Merced, "recently unearthed 10 previously-unpublished photographs illustrating the aftermath on the Hiroshima bombing."

These photographs, taken by an unknown Japanese photographer, were found in 1945 among rolls of undeveloped film in a cave outside Hiroshima by U.S. serviceman Robert L. Capp, who was attached to the occupation forces. Unlike most photos of the Hiroshima bombing, these dramatically convey the human as well as material destruction unleashed by the atomic bomb.

Below, you'll find one of the photos from this collection. See the rest here. Warning: some of the images are graphic and will be difficult for some readers to view. (Via Danger Room)

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Huffp put the words Go Nuclear into Hilary' s mouth in a headline, which shows above your headline about Hiroshima.
This seems to be in really bad taste, as Hilary's campaign is a campaign and Hiroshima really was about going nuclear and raining death and lifetime mutilation upon so many.
The world nuclear needs to be used with more discretion. I don't imagine Hiroshima survivors enjoy seeing the word used so freely as a verb.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 05/07/2008
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This was my father"s war, in 1945 when the bombs were dropped, I"m sure he was dam glad, as were many war weary Americans, that Japan surrendered. By 1945 my father was in Northern Italy and the rumor was his division would be deployed to the Pacific.

Sadly, both cities were left intact to measure the full affect of the weapons; when both cities could have been laid waste by conventional bombing. Bombing civilians did little to contribute to the war effort, on both fronts, depriving the Germans and Japanese of fuel and raw materials proved more decisive. By 1945 the US had completely isolated Japan, depriving them of both. The Zero fighter, now obsolete, with few experienced pilots to fly them, could not effectively counter the B-29s.

The Japanese were trying to negotiate conditional surrender through neutral parties; everything was on the table including occupation, except trying the Emperor for war crimes, only he could order his people to stop fighting. Macarthur understood this and was able to convince Truman to accept surrender terms. Stalin declared war on Japan only weeks before the surrender to grab Japanese territory and Truman wanted to demonstrate the new weapon, ironically Stalin already knew.

I can"t pass judgment, in the context of a World War. With that said the use of these weapons is nothing to be proud of, and it would be an utter shame this country would have to bare, if any US administration uses them against, Iran.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 05/07/2008

Most of the errors in your message are inconsequential, but one is pretty important:

Japan didn't attempt to surrender until *after both* A-bombs had been dropped.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/07/2008

There are many things you could say about these images, but I suppose what comes to the top of my mind is that the human race was able to create so much destruction from a single roughly eight-foot bomb sixty years ago. Image what the human race can do now with a single 45 foot balistic missile with ten warheads, each much more powerful than this bomb dropped on hiroshima.

The human race has an awesome responsibility managing its knowledge and know-how. I hope we're up for the task.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 05/07/2008

The same folks that are here calling the US criminal, will simply be on another thread saying the same thing about some other issue later. That is what they do. They love America and are doing their "patriotic" duty by speaking candidly about the truth of America's faults and crimes.

Like a big dog, America can tolerate a few fleas. They'll shake right out and disappear the next big attack on the US. However, you can bet they'll develop a limp or remember a relative in Canada.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/07/2008

This is so horrific. And Hillary uses the 'obliterate them' comment without 'batting an eye'.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 05/07/2008

If the war had not ended when it did, tens of millions of Japanese civilians would have perished from starvation and disease. Tens of millions, which is significantly more than died in the atomic bombings. The number of buildings and homes that would have been reduced to splinters and ash would have far exceeded what was lost in the two atomic bombings. The country of Japan would have been reduced to ruble. The vast majority of that never happened because two atomic bombs were dropped.

Hillary's comments are disgusting and ignorant, but the situation at the end of WW2 bears no resemblance to today. Americans who threaten to use nukes are weak and pathetic.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 05/07/2008

Let's stop the crying and hand-wringing over a bunch of dead enemies, shall we? Those folks died quickly. They have been dead for 60+ years. They have long since not felt pain.

War is war. It always will be.

Be thankful your father or grandfather didn't have to die while invading the Japanese homeland. Because if he did die, you wouldn't be here to feel guilty about making the war end quickly and decisively, would you now?

So get over it, whiners!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 05/07/2008

I am thankful that my dad did not have been deployed in an invasion of the Japanese home islands. By 1945 Japan was isolated and they were using neutral diplomatic channels for surrender, with 1 condition, that the Emperor stay in place, an aspect of Japanese culture, Truman did not understand, which Macarthur understood very well. The Japanese would have scarified themselves by the millions to defend the Emperor; only he had the power to tell the Japanese military to lay dawn their arms, which was important, because the US did not have material to construct multiple bombs. Also the 2 cities could have been leveled at will with conventional bombing, with little or no opposition, yet were kept in tact as a science experiment, to measure the destructive power of the weapons.

In the late 40"s US troops were ordered to take cover in trenches during nuclear test to measure survivability of a nuke in battlefield conditions, even after scientist knew the effects of radiation sickness from the Hiroshima blast. Many of these men and their families, as well as the Japanese are still suffering the effects of radiation to this day in the form of cancers and birth defects. Considering that 80,000 people died in Tokyo in one night, was the envision of Japan even necessary or propaganda to justify the use of the A Bomb to send a message to Stalin, who conveniently declared war on Japan days before war ended.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 05/07/2008

Japan did not ask to surrender until after both A-bombs had been dropped.

The US did have material for multiple bombs.

Nagasaki in fact could not have been bombed by a large conventional raid, and use of conventional weapons at Hiroshima would not have killed nearly as many Japanese soldiers.

True that we did keep cities for the A-bombs, but the reason was so the A-bombs could be used to shock Japan into surrender.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/07/2008

Ahh, you're a fool. Unless we reflect, we could make the same mistake again. Say what you want but we decided to kill 70,000 people... sure it was after pearl harbor.. but that's an incredible amount of people to kill in one day, and all civilians... a terrorist act as Japan attacked our base in pearl harbor, not civilians.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 05/07/2008

Hardly all civilians. Hiroshima was a major military center, and Nagasaki was a city devoted to arms manufacturing. Hardly a terrorist act.

Pearl Harbor was attacked before war was declared, so it was hardly a legitimate act of war, and our POWs were not legitimate targets when Japan brutally murdered them (not to mention what they did to their Asian neighbors). The notion that Japan was following the laws of war in any way is ludicrous.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 05/07/2008

Many of them did NOT die quickly.

Death from radiation poisoning is a horribly long and painful process. In fact it is one of the worst ways to go.

BTW My father WAS scheduled for the invasion of Japan.

And he always thought it was a crime.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/07/2008

The Pacific theatre was a demoralizing slog and Okinawa was was looking to be the worst of the campaign, with high US casualties, the Japanese army fighting to the death and civilians committing mass suicide. The US wasn't looking forward to the grimmer prospects of a mainland invasion, so the option of an atomic bomb was a final solution.

I'm not proud of bombing Hiroshima, but undersand the reasoning behind it. What I disapprove was the second bombing of Nagasaki, which used Plutonium instead of a Uranium based weapon. This seemed more like an unnecessary experiment on human subjects for mere research, when one bomb was probably enough. I hope the Japanese can forgive us.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 05/07/2008

The reason for the second bomb was the fact that Japan was still refusing to surrender.

The use of plutonium didn't make the bomb any worse.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/07/2008

I agree with PlanetKansas. I can understand the reason for dropping the first bomb on Hiroshima, even though I am reluctant to agree with it. However, the second bomb on Nagasaki was rushed and very unnecessary. As usual in war, those who are responsible for it pay for it the least, and the innocent civilians suffer the most. May God forgive us all.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/07/2008

The worst and most cynical aspect of Clinton's "we will obliterate them (Iran)" is not whether she really would do that in a crisis, but that she is willing to use that threat to win votes. That is as cynical as you can get, and her cynicism goes way beyond some of the thingsJermey Wright said, bad as they were. At least he was speakng his opinion, not just trying to win votes.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 05/07/2008


no one is quite sure why it is,
but assholes rise to power.
the more of the asshole,
the quicker the rise.
world governments are full of assholes
all wanting to act assholish against others.
the bigger the arsenal,
the bigger the asshole.
it's some sick soul freak of macheavelian rule.
it sort of seems like hell.
all these assholes creating havoc in a beautiful world,
a blue planet.
(the red planet is mars, and i encourage all republicans to go there, soon.)
sometimes i wonder if i haven't died earlier in my life,
and gone to hell (everyone now quickly think if you had a near death experience -
maybe it was death!).

but chavez rose in venezula,
so there is hope that we don't
live on
asshole planet.

we live on the blue planet.

obama is rising now,
perhaps the blue planet will remain blue,
and not the red glow of republican nuclear war.

we are amidst a time of possible real change,
god's speed obama, god's speed.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 05/07/2008

So you are a Marxist or Socialist. If things are so bad here why don't you move to Venezula? I'm sure your kind would find it very nice. Do you think they have any pictures of the Batan Death March?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/07/2008

Just out of curiosity, what would you estimate as the number of civilians who were killed during the Bataan Death March? Somewhere around the 200,000 or so civilians killed in Hiroshiman and Nagasaki?

Or do you just get off on the idea of lots of dead Asians?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 05/07/2008

Some justify it. Some condemn it. The fact is that in any war at any time atrocities such as these or worse can be found. The real disaster is that the war started in the first place. We should be looking at the events that lead up to the war. Or even better how to get out of the mess dumbo has got us into.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 05/07/2008

Just horrendous.
I've always wondered why all the pictures we've seen of Hiroshima after the bomb mainly showed ruined buildings or the outline of a vaporized victim.
These photos put a real face on the horror of civilian massacre.
We are still as brutal a species as fire ants; scratch the surface and we're just vessels of rage and murder.
I think we may be doomed.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 05/07/2008

I hope the people who looked at these terrible photographs keep in mind that John McCain and Hillary Clinton have both said they would consider the nuclear option. Maybe some of us haven't evolved as much as we had thought. The worst part of this whole barbaric display of warfare is that civilians, including children, were the victims.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 05/07/2008

More partisan BS. What are they - or any other leader - supposed to say? "We'll never use our nukes under any circumstances." That would be stupid and irresponsible.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 05/07/2008

the choice was them dying or you dying. your choice. your cadaver would not look any better.

dropping the bomb was absolutely the right thing to do. this was not an intellectual exercise to be discussed at the faculty lounge.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 05/07/2008

Bullbutter, njon.

You suck.

Your logic and statement are absolutely wrong.

Faculty lounge was exactly where it should have been discussed.

Decision should not have been left to the few who did make it.

They all should have gone to jail. This was an unforgiveable crime against humanity, similar to the current administrations bombings which have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. God help us if we ever get our due as a society.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/07/2008

I think war is horrible. Noone knew how awful the bomb would be but we did know that the enemy was entrenched in Japan and our boys were being horribly treated-my uncle was beheaded. And we did not start the war. I have been to Hiroshima-it was horrible- but the war ended ..everything was horrible...he was beheaded in oct. '42 and my family did not know he was dead until after VJ day well into '45. My family was one of thousands who did not get a phone call.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 05/07/2008

I have to disagree that it was the right thing to do. However, in Truman's defense, he felt he had no choice. But killing that many people in a single second is in no way the right thing to do.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 05/07/2008

Maybe someone should drop a bomb on your entire family...then come back and say something as stupid as "dropping the bomb was absolutely the right thing to do."

Not one ounce of humanity in your body...Get a clue, read history and understand why the bomb was really dropped...

Man, so many stupid people in this world...

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 05/07/2008

Why don't you talk to a survivor, or read accounts of the Bataan Death March, and see what type of humanity the Japanese soldiers were practicing in WWII

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/07/2008

Ironic, but contemporaneously that's just exactly what the Germans were working on.

As to whether his comment was stupid or not, his remark seems to agree with the greater majority of historians. As to your remark, you resort to ad hominem comments without a shred of evidence to counter a remark you had the gall to characterize as stupid.

How was it, Forrest Gump put it......

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 05/07/2008

Firebomb or nuclear? The bomb was really dropped to end the war IMMEDIATELY. It saved the lives of at least a million US soldiers and five million Japanese.

The "more Americans should have died in WWII" anti-nuke argument is disgusting.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 05/07/2008

"Maybe someone should drop a bomb on your entire family"

Yeah, that's demonstrating your humanitarian enlightenment.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 05/07/2008

Fire boming.

The British perfected it. The Nazis were leav