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Clinton Camp Tries To Redefine Delegate Math

Washington Times   |  Christina Bellantoni   |   May 6, 2008 11:06 AM

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The Washington Times noticed that Sen. Clinton's website has changed the 'magic number' of delegates -- the number needed to secure the nomination.

Top Clinton aides said the nominee must win based on a tally that includes delegates from Florida and Michigan, which held January primaries that were disqualified by party rules. The campaign's "Delegate Hub" Web site identifies 2,208 as the total delegates needed to be nominated, or 183 more than the threshold of 2,025 set by the Democratic National Committee's rules.

Later today, the candidate herself clarified the new math:

Asked at the Indianapolis Speedway this morning, Hillary confirms that she views the threshold for delegate victory as the count that includes Michigan and Florida.


"I think it's 2,209," she said.

 

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collapse Cunningham See Profile I'm a Fan of Cunningham

Silly woman, TRIX are for kids.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/08/2008
collapse JHCowboy See Profile I'm a Fan of JHCowboy

Miss Middle Class (20 million dollars a year) Clinton the white Lunch Pale "Reagan" Democrat representative who says that Barack is Mr. Elitist has just changed the goal posts yet again. The Truth will always cut its own way and eventually Hillary will come to the end of the field and those goal posts will fall off a huge cliff and man alive is that cliff ever close. What will she do then? The Clintons will do virtually anything (pander, lie, deceive, pretend, blame, etc.) just to get elected. Wake up America, do you want this person as your President? I sure don't and I'm doing all in my power to make sure Barack Obama is elected as our 44th President of the United States of America!!!

We will need the people of Hillary Clinton's campaign to accomplish this. We will need all of the Democrats to unify. We will need Hillary Clinton herself to stand behind him and to "shout from the mountaintops" and change too. Yes She Can Change and Unite Behind Barack Obama!!! :) We will need as many Republicans as possible and Independents and people who are of the Green Party and the Constitution Party to unite behind our Nominee. We need our Nation to unite and believe in our greatness again. Are there too many people who are divided? Are there too many hurts, doubts and cynics? I say we can transcend it all and make history. Let's do it!! Yes We Can!!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 05/07/2008
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WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM A MONSTER?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/07/2008
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The next HRC metric change will be from "only the big states count" to "only the states I've won count."

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 05/07/2008
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WOW, she's really has balls...........................LMAO. Will she stop at nothing.

Oh fine, give her MI and FL as they are, because EVEN with them, she's STILL BEHIND as of tonight.......................hahahahahhahahahahah!!!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 05/07/2008
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It not what she has (balls) it's what she doesn't have that keeps her in the race and spouting absurdities: she has no shame. Her inability to give up her dream after all she's put up with: living in the governor's mansion in AR, The White House, her million dollar properties, tough. What she should realize is that without Bill Clinton and his political acumen She would be a fifth rate lawyer in a third rate law firm.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 05/07/2008
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Wow...I agree..HRC would be a fifth rate lawyer in a third rate law firm. Count that SHE is also a bad loser, who will try to shut up everyone's questions when it does not suit her.

Example...we were running from behind in Indiana, NC would be a game changer.

The American people are not dumb, Hillary.

Obama supporters should now rally in Kentucky to change those poll numbers and unite people, not divide. If at all, the people of Kentucky would not vote blindly for a leader because of her gender, dividing between middle class, whites, etc. Let the Americans be for One America if problems are to be solved. Times are hard, the challenge is upon the people--and they are empowered by their votes to pick a candidate wisely above the negative campaign Hillary's camp has ran in this race.

Wake up, Kentucky. Be counted as you open your mind to someone who would spearhead this country to a beautifful America again. Obama has extended his hand to unite all the 50 states.

United we stand, divided we fall.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/07/2008
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Hey Hillary, I think I see another straw waaaaaaaay over there. Better grab it!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 05/07/2008
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Obama could give the crying lady Mich. and Fla. and still be over 100 pledged delegates ahead.
So what is all this whining about?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/06/2008
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The new rule is that the candidate with the LEAST amount of delegates is the winner.

Less is more, otay?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 05/06/2008
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Now I live in philly...and Hill won PA (by 9....not 10) when she initally had a 20 or so pnt lead. He came in...we ALL helped him here and he cut into that lead big time...but she had a big to-do here in philly (where 35,000 folks gathered to see HIM just a nite or two before) to "celebrate" this "Big" victory...

fast forward

Guam-Obama
NC- Obama...by double digits...over 10!..she didnt carve that much out of his momentum.
IN- ?? if she does win it will be even less than PA.

stop the madness...just stop please...you are making yourself look crazy.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 05/06/2008
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Again Hillary is trying to confuse the issue. The number is 2025. Remember that Hillary, 2025. Just 2025. See, it's easy... 2025.

One more time, the number IS 2025.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/06/2008
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Lake County, Ind. Redefining the math one county at a time.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 05/06/2008
collapse TrueIndy08 See Profile I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08

anyone listen to the two candidates speeches???

Obama went after McCain.. let him know that look, I am not that DEM who is going to be afraid and tread lightly bc you and your band of thieves are "coming after me"... GOOD... I am so sick and tired and DEMS being afraid of what the Republicans are going to do and say... grow some and give them a taste of their own medicine...

Hillary... she sounded down... not nearly as enthusiastic as she was after Penn... sounded more like the prelude to her inevitable consession speech!!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 05/06/2008
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Whos got info the election irregularities in Indiana?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 05/06/2008
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Maybe the same people looking at the election irregularities in New York.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 05/07/2008
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Hillary is the most ungracious candidate ever. She's shilling for contributions in her speech in Indianapolis. Still shilling for the gas tax holiday. She acts oblivious to everything happening around her.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 05/06/2008
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I have a solution to help pay for gas. stop donating to Hillary's campaign and buy a tank or two. You have a choice here either purchase gas or a gas bag.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 05/07/2008
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and as Sen Obama took time to congratulate her... she never once took time to congratulate him on his victory in NC!!!

While she was supposed to win in Penn by double digits (she won by 9)... he kicked a$$ in NC...

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 05/06/2008
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Ha ha ha! That's too funny!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 05/06/2008
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Clinton: Did you not do good in Math in College????

I don't know what your problem is but you have lost, not only have you lost but you have managed to destroy your husband's reputation.

Go Away Hillary, retire with your millions, you are the elitist!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 05/06/2008
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Its so pathetic to watch somebody in desperation. She changes her strategy daily. The more pathetic she becomes, the less dignified she is going to look when she exits. I have lost al thel respect I once had for that family. I hope the visit that never leaves, leaves soon.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/06/2008
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Here's CNN's version of "Do the Math".

It appears Clinton will need at least a 40 point margin win in the popular vote of the remaining elections, leaving out the super delegates, to over take Obama.

That's after giving Obama a 20 point margin in North Carolina.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/06/2008
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she had 20 point margins in PENN and won by 9... he wins NC by 13-14 points... your point???

Its called campaigning... the more people see and hear you, the more the numbers change.. and thats on both sides!!!

You clintons have been spinning for so long... i am sick ot it!!!

REALITY SAYS: YOU"VE LOST!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 05/06/2008
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I wonder how many rules Clinton is going to speak up for, speak against, ignore, manipulate, etc for an infantile chance at the Presidency.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/06/2008
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don't you just love lawyers? especially those who graduated in the cellar of their class. But her real problem is that she doesn't just lie to the world she lies to herself. And there is no medication or therapy that will help a personality disorder. go away senator sociopath.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 05/07/2008
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was Hillary a math major in college??/ Bc it looks as if she learned some ultra super duper smart persons way of doing math... or better yet, she completely invented a new way of doing math!!!

If thats the case... I just paid a bunch of bills... I want to know if Hillary and her crew can work some new math on my bank acct and make me have thousands than I do????

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/06/2008
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I'm convinced the the Clintons believe that they are allowed to make up the rules, and that they rule the Democratic party. If you take all of their versions of who counts and what numbers matter, and include all of them, then no one counts...but the Clintons themselves I guess, and I'm sure that would be fine with them!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/24473981#24473981

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/06/2008
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Borger just dropped the 2208 delegate bomb on CNN.
King: Suck on a lemon.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/06/2008
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Why doesn't she just change it to 66,712? Or 9,023?

Whatever number she changes it to, she will have a justification for why she should be the nominee.

Great job in NC, Obama! Even if Hillary does win Indiana (and she may not), it won't be by much.

Superdelegates: You're up! Let's go.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 05/06/2008
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I am sure Bill would be quite pleased if you would open your mouth like the pic shows, for him from time to time!!!!"

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/06/2008
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Which is how it should be Florida and Michigan should be counted....to not count them is cheating for Obama's sake. Lets face facts with all the big states Clinton won, if it had been winner take all...she would be our nominee already. Whoever heard of a president who didn't win any of the big states??? People should be thinking of how this man would do against McCain......I think if he is the nominee, we will have another republican president.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/06/2008
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No, it is not cheating for Obama's sake. The rules were established, with Hillary's blessing, well before Obama experienced his great successes, because the DNC had to stop states from pushing their primaries into 2007. Yes, if the primaries were winner take all, she might be the nominee. But the Democratic primaries aren't winner take all. But since you want Hillary, maybe we should change those rules, just for her.

BTW, people are thinking about how he'll do against McCain, and by most polls, he's doing fine. When Hillary is forced out when the remainder of the supers line up behind Obama, Obama will finally have the opportunity to challenge McCain on all the really idiotic things he has been saying, and the pathetic policy proposals he's offered, and Obama will strengthen his position.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 05/07/2008
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But then again, counting them as is is cheating for Clinton's sake. Oh, what to do? What to do? Hey, I have a novel idea. Let's just follow the rules that both candidate agreed to!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 05/06/2008
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good thing we don't pay you to think!!!

I love how you Clinton people never hold your Queen accountable!!! This woman signed a pledge stating that she agreed to the consequences set for by the DNC... SHE SIGNED IT HERSELF...

when she thought her name recognition alone would win her the nomination, I NEVER ONCE heard her talking about those states delegates!!! Uh oh.... now the Queen is LOSING and she wants to go back on her pledge... TOO DAMN BAD HILLARY!!!

If she somehow wins the nomination, I will never ever throw my support behind the DEMS again!!!

Everyone keeps talking about white rural voters... NEWSFLASH: the majority of those GOP in the general anyway...
what you should be look at are the loyal blocks of the party.... the AFRICAN AMERICAN vote... no one is talking about that block, as if they don't matter!!! I know most people don't want to hold that group to such high regard, but they are....

No DEM president has won without majority support from that group.. and if this shiesty WITCH gets the nomination, hello President McCain!!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 05/06/2008