Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

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DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI | May 6, 2008 11:43 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, arrives at a primary election night rally in Raleigh, N.C.,Tuesday, May 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to a narrow Indiana lead, struggling to halt her rival's march into history.

"Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States," Obama told a raucous rally in Raleigh, N.C. _ and left no doubt he intended to claim the prize.

Clinton and Obama both said the former first lady would win Indiana. Yet thousands of votes were yet to be counted, principally in Lake County, not far from Obama's home city of Chicago.

She told cheering supporters in Indianapolis, "Thanks to you, it's full speed on to the White House," signaling her determination to fight on in a campaign already waged across more than 15 months and nearly all 50 states.

Returns from 98 percent of North Carolina precincts showed Obama winning 56 percent of the vote to 42 percent for Clinton, a triumph that mirrored his earlier wins in Southern states with large black populations.

That made Indiana a virtual must-win Midwestern contest for the former first lady, who was hoping to counter Obama's persistent delegate advantage with a strong run through the late primaries. Returns from 88 percent of the state's precincts showed Clinton with 52 percent of the vote to 48 percent for Obama.

Obama won at least 63 delegates and Clinton at least 57 in the two states combined, with 67 still to be awarded.

Voters in both states fell along racial lines long since established in a marathon race between the nation's strongest-ever black presidential candidate and its most formidable female challenger for the White House.

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The economy was the top issue by far in both states, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Two weeks after a decisive defeat in Pennsylvania, Obama sounded increasingly like he was looking forward to the fall campaign.

"This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats ... because we all agree that at this defining moment in history _ a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril _ we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term."

Clinton was joined at her rally by her husband Bill, his face sunburned after hours spent campaigning in small-town North Carolina, and their daughter, Chelsea.

She stressed the issue that came to dominate the final days of the primaries in both states, her call for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. "I think it's time to give Americans a break this summer," she said.

She added that no matter who wins the epic race for the nomination, "I will work for the nominee of this party" in the fall campaign against the Republicans. To emphasize her determination, Clinton announced plans to campaign Thursday in West Virginia, South Dakota and Oregon, three of the remaining primary states.

Obama was gaining more than 90 percent of the black vote in Indiana, while Clinton was winning an estimated 61 percent of the white vote there.

In North Carolina, Clinton won 60 percent of the white vote, while Obama claimed support from roughly 90 percent of the blacks who cast ballots.

Obama's delegate haul edged him closer to his prize _ 1808.5 to 1,665 for Clinton in The Associated Press count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

As he told his supporters, Obama was on pace to finish the night within 200 delegates of the total needed. There are 217 delegates at stake in the six primaries yet to come. Another 270 superdelegates remain uncommitted.

He has long led Clinton among delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, and has increasingly narrowed his deficit among superdelegates who will attend the convention by virtue of their status as party leaders. The AP tally showed Clinton with 269.5 superdelegates, and Obama with 255.

The impact of a long-running controversy over Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was difficult to measure.

In North Carolina, six in 10 voters who said Wright's incendiary comments affected their votes sided with Clinton. A somewhat larger percentage of voters who said the pastor's remarks did not matter supported Obama.

The questionnaire used to learn about voter motivation did not include any questions about the gasoline tax.

In Indiana, about one in five voters said they were independents, an additional one in 10 said Republican.

Only Democrats and unaffiliated voters were permitted to vote in North Carolina.

Voting in Indiana was carried out under a state law, recently upheld by the Supreme Court, that requires voters to produce a valid photo ID. About a dozen nuns in their 80s and 90s at St. Mary's Convent in South Bend were denied ballots because they lacked the necessary identification.

Obama leads Clinton in delegates won in primaries and caucuses. Despite his defeat two weeks ago, he has steadily whittled away at her advantage in superdelegates in the past two weeks and trails 269.5 to 255.

Clinton saved her candidacy with her win in Pennsylvania, and she campaigned aggressively in Indiana in hopes of denying Obama a victory next door to his home state of Illinois. Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers who have been attracted to the former first lady, and she sought to use her call for a federal gas tax holiday to draw them and other economically pinched voters closer.

Inevitably, the issue quickly took on larger dimensions.

Obama said it symbolized a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Clinton retorted, "Instead of attacking the problem, he's attacking my solutions," and ran an ad in the campaign's final hours that said she "gets it."

The balance of the primary schedule includes West Virginia, with 28 delegates on May 13; Oregon with 52 and Kentucky with 51 a week later; Puerto Rico with 55 delegates on June 1, and Montana with 16 and South Dakota with 15 on June 3.

Sen. McCain of Arizona, the Republican nomination already in hand, campaigned in North Carolina and assailed Obama for his vote against confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts.

"Senator Obama in particular likes to talk up his background as a lecturer on law, and also as someone who can work across the aisle to get things done," McCain said. "But ... he went right along with the partisan crowd, and was among the 22 senators to vote against this highly qualified nominee."

Clinton also voted against Roberts, but McCain, as is often the case, focused his remarks on Obama.

Obama's campaign responded that the Republican would pick judges who represent a threat to abortion rights and to McCain's own legislation to limit the role of money in political campaigns.

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David Espo reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Tom Raum in Indianapolis and Libby Quaid in Winston-Salem contributed to this report.

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to...
INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to...
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Now would be a good time for Hillary to show some class & drop out. Stop the amoral Rush Limbaugh robots from trying to wreck our party.

President Barack Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/06/2008

Watching MSNBC it's all about the "if"....
Ridiculous

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- BitterInPA I'm a Fan of BitterInPA 3 fans permalink

I would like to "speculate" that they all do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/06/2008
- BJMS I'm a Fan of BJMS 2 fans permalink

YES WE DID!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/06/2008

woo-hoo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/06/2008
- cubs325 I'm a Fan of cubs325 16 fans permalink

dear clinton supporters,

i understand your anger and bitterness, if i had watch the lady i had assumed for years (10+) who would be the first woman pres mangle her campaign this badly it would take some time to get over the emotion letdown and bitterness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/06/2008

Way to go North Carolina!! Great job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/06/2008
- kdublya I'm a Fan of kdublya 105 fans permalink
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Borger just dropped the 2209 delegate bomb on CNN.
John King: Clinton, go suck on a lemon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008

she is an idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/06/2008
- Mattatat I'm a Fan of Mattatat 5 fans permalink

92% of the black vote in a state that will go to the Republicans in November. That says it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 29 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 05/06/2008

Republicans are sick of Bush and McBomb too. Sick of the war, sick of the lies, sick of the recession, sick of ignorant men running the country in to the ground. Obama will rock McBomb in the general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/06/2008
- luvthelaw I'm a Fan of luvthelaw 4 fans permalink

Indiana is redder than NC so what's your point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 05/06/2008
- Pyrrhus I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus 7 fans permalink

Luv-

Under any normal circumstances I would agree with you. But my mother voted in a Democratic Primary today. The last time she voted for anyone was in 1980, and she has never spoken about voting in a primary before (maybe one of the Kennedys). This goes back 34 years.

Regardless of who she voted for (I have no idea), I still think this MIGHT, MIGHT, MIGHT be a good thing. If the hype can get her out to vote, perhaps the Dems will have enough time to heal the wounds for November no matter who is elected.

But I don't know. My Hoosier compatriots can be a bit odd sometimes. And please don't compare us to Illinoisans, that's drastically generalizing the population of both States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/06/2008
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

The conventional wisdom has not been very good at predicting anything about this election, except for the inevitable racism. Throw out your conventional wisdom and check out which way the wind is blowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/06/2008
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Voters like candidates who tell the truth. Check.
Voters like candidates who behave in a presidential manner. Check.
Voters like candidates who do not pander. Check.
Voters like candidates who do not attack. Check.

Hello to dignity and presidential presence and to a nominee who refuses to allow anyone--be it a Clinton or a Carville or the MSM --to define him. Hello President Obama.

The ridiculous MSM spin that Senator Obama was "back on his heels" or "off his game" these past couple of weeks instead could have been spun that his low key manner portrayed a candidate who was acting presidential and truthfully and who dealt with the MSM 24/7 overblown coverage of Wright's media tour in a presidential and truthful manner and who has rebounded astoundingly.

Senator Clinton, on the other hand, has been on another change in personality run, blatantly courted only white voters, promises to "obliterate Iran" (an idea that even Harry Reid, whose son was head of Clinton's campaign in Nevada, publicly disdains), throws in a vow to "break up OPEC," and has basically told American school children that playing by the rules is stupid and unnecessary if you're a Clinton (or a Bush).

The political strategy that the Clintons and James Carville brought out for viewing these past couple of weeks even predates Rove. It was the Lee Atwater "southern strategy" of the Republican party of 20 years ago.

Yes, Americans want to turn the page.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/06/2008
- RevJeff I'm a Fan of RevJeff 2 fans permalink

Excellent post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- BitterInPA I'm a Fan of BitterInPA 3 fans permalink

Yeah the Scar said Obama "was on his heels" Tonight he is singing another tune. He must be practicing for his next job as a weatherman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- NU81 I'm a Fan of NU81 2 fans permalink

Very well said....my sentiments exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 05/06/2008
- MATX I'm a Fan of MATX permalink

Let's see. Obama just won a state that will never, ever, ever cast its electoral votes for him in November.

Clinton just routed Obama in his own back yard.

Hmmm.

Meanwhile, Fox and the Huffington Post share the noble distinction of both glorifying Obama's win in North Carolina with zero percent of the vote in, while ignoring Clinton's huge advantage in Indiana with 21% of the vote in.

Nasty business. Who gives you the right to twist the news like this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/06/2008
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 29 fans permalink
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http://www.270towin.com/states/north_carolina

Nope. never ever in a million billion gazillion smillion fillion schmoopy floopy boopy snookey... wait, what was your point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/06/2008

Since 1968 Indiana has never voted Democrat in a Presidential Election EVER.

On the other hand in 1976 North Carolina did just that.

Your mindless spin does not hold up here. Take it back to Taylor Marsh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 05/06/2008

good question, how were they able to twist the news covering for 3 weeks on a 24/ basis the news you cant use of obamas pastor????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 05/06/2008
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 29 fans permalink
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Wait. Since when are candidates expected to win states that neighbor their home state? That is a new requirement for success this season. Why is Obama held to such absurd standards?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008

It's a new goal post. Who wins the most surrounding states. Didn't you get the Clinton memo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/06/2008
- PFHarlock I'm a Fan of PFHarlock 4 fans permalink

I hope you're new at this political business. That was some pretty naive stuff you just wrote there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 05/06/2008
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 35 fans permalink

Note Post and headline at this time.
Rout with less than 4% of the vote in? OK whatever. Anyhow, he was ahead 25 pts in NC and 15 pts in IN a few weeks ago. 45% of the democratic voters in NC are black and Obama has them all locked up. So the percentage above 45 will tell you the trend outside of his base from lets say Illinois. Looks like it has shrunk enormously.

Anyhow, NC was predicted and is the last of the 10 largest states in the country. Obama won 2 out of 10 and Hillary won 8 out of 10, representing 60% of all the people in the US.

Obama should be credited for his victory in NC. There are structural electability dynamics at play that have only hardened since Super Tuesday that impact general election Electoral College.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/06/2008
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 29 fans permalink
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Yeah, it's just black people. Their votes don't count... what are they in the general election, 3/5 of a vote or something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 05/06/2008

No, at the most, 12%. And, when they vote as a block for a black based on race, they alienate white people and show themselves to be racists.
Two initials for ya: OJ.
All over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 05/06/2008

Yeah, and the educated white elites shouldn't count as much as the cracker vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/06/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

Sort of like Clinton's base shrank in Pennsylvania, where she lost a huge lead?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 05/06/2008

More like the Presumptuous Candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 05/06/2008
- RevJeff I'm a Fan of RevJeff 2 fans permalink

it is 33% of the democratic voters are African American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/06/2008

Sort of like Obama winning the white vote under the age of 65?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008

Obama is America's renewed hope; with Hillary it's the GWB status quo.

Go President Obama, we the American people are behind you all the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/06/2008

NC simply did not go for the silly vote pandering from the Clinton campaign. I am delighted that this seems to be a convincing win for Obama. I am an independent and was impressed with HRC before the primaries started but I have observed surrogates who will say about anything to make a point for her campaign----I expected more for her and them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 05/06/2008
- patch61 I'm a Fan of patch61 2 fans permalink

we are not going to vote for obama we will only vote for sen.hillar­y clinton there is no way that we the people that will vote sen. hillary clinton will vote for obama NO WAY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/06/2008
- daddydamon I'm a Fan of daddydamon 3 fans permalink

well then, I guess you suck!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/06/2008
- PFHarlock I'm a Fan of PFHarlock 4 fans permalink

Ha ha ha ha... I'll second that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/06/2008
- PFHarlock I'm a Fan of PFHarlock 4 fans permalink

Speak for yourself.

So when Hillary Clinton gets out there and calls for unity behind then nominee Barack Obama's ticket (and she will), you're going to stay home and increase the chances that John McCain will take office and, among many other things, continue to stack the Supreme Court with far right wing justices?

You need to step back and look at the big picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 05/06/2008

You have a problem with someone winning an election fair and square?? You cannot be a true democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008

Another loyal Clinton (LIEberman) Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/06/2008
- NYCIC I'm a Fan of NYCIC 7 fans permalink
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Nah nah nah nah/ nah nah nah nah/ hey hey hey GOODBYE!!!!

Mount that broomstick Hillary (if not your lousy husband) and get going. And be sure to take your Orcs Carville, McCauliffe, Wolfson, and Penn with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/06/2008

Mount Huma. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/06/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

I TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS OBAMA'S DESTINY!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOH­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/06/2008
- PFHarlock I'm a Fan of PFHarlock 4 fans permalink

Presumptive nominee...

Hmm... Presumptive nominee Barack Obama...

Such a nice ring to it.

From now on that's how I'm going to write his name - Presumptive nominee Barack Obama. : )

Really, it's been appropriate to do for at least a couple of months now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/06/2008

so true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/06/2008
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