Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

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DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI | May 6, 2008 11:43 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, arrives at a primary election night rally in Raleigh, N.C.,Tuesday, May 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to a narrow Indiana lead, struggling to halt her rival's march into history.

"Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States," Obama told a raucous rally in Raleigh, N.C. _ and left no doubt he intended to claim the prize.

Clinton and Obama both said the former first lady would win Indiana. Yet thousands of votes were yet to be counted, principally in Lake County, not far from Obama's home city of Chicago.

She told cheering supporters in Indianapolis, "Thanks to you, it's full speed on to the White House," signaling her determination to fight on in a campaign already waged across more than 15 months and nearly all 50 states.

Returns from 98 percent of North Carolina precincts showed Obama winning 56 percent of the vote to 42 percent for Clinton, a triumph that mirrored his earlier wins in Southern states with large black populations.

That made Indiana a virtual must-win Midwestern contest for the former first lady, who was hoping to counter Obama's persistent delegate advantage with a strong run through the late primaries. Returns from 88 percent of the state's precincts showed Clinton with 52 percent of the vote to 48 percent for Obama.

Obama won at least 63 delegates and Clinton at least 57 in the two states combined, with 67 still to be awarded.

Voters in both states fell along racial lines long since established in a marathon race between the nation's strongest-ever black presidential candidate and its most formidable female challenger for the White House.

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The economy was the top issue by far in both states, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Two weeks after a decisive defeat in Pennsylvania, Obama sounded increasingly like he was looking forward to the fall campaign.

"This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats ... because we all agree that at this defining moment in history _ a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril _ we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term."

Clinton was joined at her rally by her husband Bill, his face sunburned after hours spent campaigning in small-town North Carolina, and their daughter, Chelsea.

She stressed the issue that came to dominate the final days of the primaries in both states, her call for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. "I think it's time to give Americans a break this summer," she said.

She added that no matter who wins the epic race for the nomination, "I will work for the nominee of this party" in the fall campaign against the Republicans. To emphasize her determination, Clinton announced plans to campaign Thursday in West Virginia, South Dakota and Oregon, three of the remaining primary states.

Obama was gaining more than 90 percent of the black vote in Indiana, while Clinton was winning an estimated 61 percent of the white vote there.

In North Carolina, Clinton won 60 percent of the white vote, while Obama claimed support from roughly 90 percent of the blacks who cast ballots.

Obama's delegate haul edged him closer to his prize _ 1808.5 to 1,665 for Clinton in The Associated Press count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

As he told his supporters, Obama was on pace to finish the night within 200 delegates of the total needed. There are 217 delegates at stake in the six primaries yet to come. Another 270 superdelegates remain uncommitted.

He has long led Clinton among delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, and has increasingly narrowed his deficit among superdelegates who will attend the convention by virtue of their status as party leaders. The AP tally showed Clinton with 269.5 superdelegates, and Obama with 255.

The impact of a long-running controversy over Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was difficult to measure.

In North Carolina, six in 10 voters who said Wright's incendiary comments affected their votes sided with Clinton. A somewhat larger percentage of voters who said the pastor's remarks did not matter supported Obama.

The questionnaire used to learn about voter motivation did not include any questions about the gasoline tax.

In Indiana, about one in five voters said they were independents, an additional one in 10 said Republican.

Only Democrats and unaffiliated voters were permitted to vote in North Carolina.

Voting in Indiana was carried out under a state law, recently upheld by the Supreme Court, that requires voters to produce a valid photo ID. About a dozen nuns in their 80s and 90s at St. Mary's Convent in South Bend were denied ballots because they lacked the necessary identification.

Obama leads Clinton in delegates won in primaries and caucuses. Despite his defeat two weeks ago, he has steadily whittled away at her advantage in superdelegates in the past two weeks and trails 269.5 to 255.

Clinton saved her candidacy with her win in Pennsylvania, and she campaigned aggressively in Indiana in hopes of denying Obama a victory next door to his home state of Illinois. Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers who have been attracted to the former first lady, and she sought to use her call for a federal gas tax holiday to draw them and other economically pinched voters closer.

Inevitably, the issue quickly took on larger dimensions.

Obama said it symbolized a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Clinton retorted, "Instead of attacking the problem, he's attacking my solutions," and ran an ad in the campaign's final hours that said she "gets it."

The balance of the primary schedule includes West Virginia, with 28 delegates on May 13; Oregon with 52 and Kentucky with 51 a week later; Puerto Rico with 55 delegates on June 1, and Montana with 16 and South Dakota with 15 on June 3.

Sen. McCain of Arizona, the Republican nomination already in hand, campaigned in North Carolina and assailed Obama for his vote against confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts.

"Senator Obama in particular likes to talk up his background as a lecturer on law, and also as someone who can work across the aisle to get things done," McCain said. "But ... he went right along with the partisan crowd, and was among the 22 senators to vote against this highly qualified nominee."

Clinton also voted against Roberts, but McCain, as is often the case, focused his remarks on Obama.

Obama's campaign responded that the Republican would pick judges who represent a threat to abortion rights and to McCain's own legislation to limit the role of money in political campaigns.

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David Espo reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Tom Raum in Indianapolis and Libby Quaid in Winston-Salem contributed to this report.

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Is anybody watching msm and what are they saying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 05/06/2008

FOX is giving bad projections (for Obama) based on "exit polls" and MSNBC is still squabbling with no voting predictions/projections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 05/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

The Hillary Clinton campaign slogan:

"Vote for me! I'm a victim!"

I'm a victim of the vast right-wing conspiracy!
I'm a victim of marital infidelity!
I'm a victim of the news media!
I'm a victim of Saturday Night Live!
I'm a victim of the Obama campaign's attacks!

Vote for me! Because everyone hates me!
Victimhood! That's what makes this nation great!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 05/06/2008
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Talk about setting the feminist movement back 10 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 05/06/2008
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This is exactly why she comes across as a Republican. Thin-skinned, persecution complex and playing the victim card.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/06/2008

If Hillary wins Indiana by 7, and Obama wins NC by 7,

OBAMA COMES OUT WITH A NET GAIN OF 7 DELEGATES TODAY

If Hillary wins by 7 in Indiana, and Obama wins in NC by 12

OBAMA COMES OUT WITH A NET GAIN OF 17 DELEGATES.

GoBama! You've got this locked!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/06/2008
- DennyCrane I'm a Fan of DennyCrane 26 fans permalink

Obama will take North Carolina by a bigger margin than Hillary will take Indiana. But despite that and despite the fact Obama will increase his delegate lead, the MSM will be calling this a failure for Obama and a success for Hillary. The pundits will be asking why Obama can't close the deal and why working class whites won't vote for him. What the media should be asking is why Hillary, a former First Lady, husband to a popular ex-President, and armed with enormous funding and political connections can't catch up to a first-term black Senator with a funny name. The media should also be asking if working class whites are voting for Hillary simply because they don't want to vote for the black guy. But of course, we can't expect the media to ask the hard questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- kentj I'm a Fan of kentj 6 fans permalink

Alright America it is time for real postive change........................

Say good-bye to the old timers of hate-racism-divisive politics, and wars, of Hillary Clinton-John McCain- Bush.

Say hello to a new generation of peace, justice, love, unity, and One people for all Americans ,and all Peopleall over the World with a real democratic leader....Barack Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/06/2008
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I think I finally understand why Americans don't seem to understand the concept of democracy. It's because you don't have a functioning one. Republicans selecting Democrat presidental candidates seems idiotic and a perfect way to subvert a true democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/06/2008

Geez do you have to say it that way? You make us sound dysfunctional lmao!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/06/2008
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Republicans have no respect for democracy or the American people. All they care about is winning and lining their pockets. And it's impossible to overestimate how low they're willing to stoop to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/06/2008

I think we are seeing it in motion as we speak. And since, technically, Hillary is a Republican, she is demonstrating the ultimate in "stooping so low".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 05/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

If those exit polls are accurate, then Obama gains 7-9 delegates. Then Sen. Clinton will need to explain to us how she still has a chance to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/06/2008
- Sctt859 I'm a Fan of Sctt859 2 fans permalink

The obeamer can still win indianer. Dont give up hope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008

Indiana is too Republican. Of course they went for Clinton, they'll go for McCain in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

There is one thing: There was a lot of early voting in Indiana, in Obama favored areas. Those people would not be talking to the exit pollsters.

Anyway no matter how I slide these sliders I cannot see HIllary winning. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 05/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

Yep. Based on my rather conservative estimates of what will happen in the remaining states, she would need to pick up about 70% of the remaining superdelegates. Not likely as things stand now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 05/06/2008

Just spoke to my sister who went to vote in Charlotte, NC. They turned her away and told her she couldn't vote because she had on a Obama T-shirt.

I know that you can't campaign inside the precinct but she just had a shirt on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008
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With a campaign slogan on it. Not allowed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/06/2008

It said Got Hope? and thats it. Yeah its an Obama shirt but it didn't even say his name.

Whats wrong with hope?? lmao

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/06/2008
- brendanm I'm a Fan of brendanm 3 fans permalink

A shirt can be turned inside out. Lazy voters don't win elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/06/2008

She asked them if she could turn it inside out and they told her no. She had to go home and change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/06/2008

Thanks for the info. She needs to check with the local agency in charge to find out if it was legal to turn her away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 05/06/2008

yep. that's the law. no shirts, no buttons.

nothin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I'm disappointed in Indiana.

But North Carolina has 115 delegates, Indiana only 72.

The day will be Obama's even if she takes Indiana.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/06/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

Either way. If John McCain wins the presidency or Hillary Clinton is the nominee of my party, I am leaving the Democratic Party. After forty years of voting Democratic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/06/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

40 years later, and still throwing hissy fits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/06/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

I must defer to your obviously superior intellect. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/06/2008
- kentj I'm a Fan of kentj 6 fans permalink

maxdenn:

I am with you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 05/06/2008
- Mij13 I'm a Fan of Mij13 73 fans permalink
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ditto

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

DITTO MAX- SAME NUMBER OF YEARS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I feel the party has let everyone down. It should have more discipline than this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/06/2008
- williamina I'm a Fan of williamina 7 fans permalink

The minute madam Speaker first wielded the gavel you should have known your cha-chee was fucked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 05/06/2008

Actually, if John McCain wins the presidency, it's time to think about leaving the country. This country cannot take even one more year of this crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/06/2008
- Noelle I'm a Fan of Noelle 11 fans permalink

Got to polling place with daughter today who turns 18 before general election and they wouldn't let her vote. After an hour of excuses by Indiana state election officials the woman at the polling place said...."I don't know what to tell you mam other than they don't want your daughter to vote." Everyone at polling place was great, they felt really bad for my daughter and kept telling her not to get turned off on voting.

Called election board when I got home. Talked to supervisor who said she is in the system and it has her correct birthday but is still denying her and we will have to come and dispute it in person but it is unlikely it will be resolved today. Well no it won't because she had to go to work and doesn't get off until 10:30pm. My husband works at a radio station and they have been getting calls today from people complaining that as long as you are in line by 6pm they are suppose to let you vote but many precincts have announced they are closing it down at 6 even if you are in line.

Obama camp had a team set up outside polling place to record voting problems. They documented what happened and said they would be in touch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 05/06/2008

Thanks for keeping us informed. Please, all of you voters in Indiana and N. Carolina, if you are facing any problems at the polls or see anything out of place, please come here and report them. We, the voters outside of those states do care what is going. We have as much of an invested interest as those who are voting today and those who have yet to vote.


Thanks - keep a good thought and a prayer for Obama - not a prayer to win, but a prayer for his safe keeping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/06/2008

There's still time to get the message out on the radio stations! Hope your husband and the radio stations are making this a public issue. Get some cameras down there and they will keep those polls open!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 05/06/2008
- Noelle I'm a Fan of Noelle 11 fans permalink

They are. The whole staff is working on it today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008
- deedrdo I'm a Fan of deedrdo 6 fans permalink

you can't vote unless you're 18.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 05/06/2008
- Noelle I'm a Fan of Noelle 11 fans permalink

Yes you can. In Indiana they have seperate ballots for 17 year olds that will turn 18 before general election. Two of the workers helping out today were 17 and they both voted today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/06/2008

Indiana allows people who will be 18 by November 3 to vote in the primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/06/2008

Wrong...you can vote in the Indiana primaries if you will be 18 by General Election....

http://www.declareyourself.com/voting_faq/state_by_state_info_2.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008

18 by the day of the general election :) See the dilemma now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/06/2008
- brendanm I'm a Fan of brendanm 3 fans permalink

You have to be 18 on the day of the general election in order to vote in primaries in Ohio and I would assume Indiana. I've been a pollworker for the past several elections and I wouldn't think Indiana would be very different than Ohio.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/06/2008
- BigLib I'm a Fan of BigLib 18 fans permalink

You really don't know you have to be 18 to vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 05/06/2008
- Noelle I'm a Fan of Noelle 11 fans permalink

Not in Indiana. 18 by general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I don't know how it is in your state, but in Kansas my son could caucus at age 17 because he will be 18 before the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- miltshook I'm a Fan of miltshook 4 fans permalink
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Good Lord...

Standing up to the oil companies? Suddenly, with gas around $3.70 per gallon all over the country, NOW she talks about standing up to the oil companies?

And how in the HELL is a gas tax holiday, even when combined with a tax on profits, standing up to ANYONE? We all know what will happen if the gas tax is suspended; the oil companies will take the extra profit. And if you tax their profits, they'll just raise their prices to cover the tax.

There is only one thing the oil companies will pay attention to, and that's if people stop buying the stuff. If she wants to stand up to the oil companies, she'll push for huge subsidies for public transportation, even larger subsidies for Amtrak, and increase fuel efficiency standards starting right now, even if it means helping out car companies to make the switch in the short run. If we could reduce consumption by 10% in the next year, you'll see oil companies changing their tune...

Milt Shook
http://www.pleasecutthecrap.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 05/06/2008

As far as I know, Hillary has not submitted a bill in the Senate for this gas tax holiday she is touting. Am I correct?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I just read how an idea would become a law, starting in the Senate.

If Hillary were in Washington right now, working full-time to convince some of those people in Congress who listen to experts, there is no way this would happen even by fall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/06/2008
- ecksman I'm a Fan of ecksman 3 fans permalink

great posting!!! i couldn't agree more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/06/2008
- Peteyman I'm a Fan of Peteyman 2 fans permalink

Gas is $3.91 in a Mobil station at the corner of Vista Montana and PCH here in "beautiful" Torrance, CA. If it goes to $4.00, I'm riding my bike wherever I go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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How does Hillary overcome her higher educated voter problem? Why isn't she appealing to them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/06/2008

Maybe...they're too smart to vote for her ???

Just guessing, of course !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 05/06/2008
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This is just off the top of my head, but could it be they see through her? I know my friends certainly did and they all fit that description.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 05/06/2008

Because educated individuals are better informed and don't fall for Clinton's fear politics. She makes Obama out to be a muslim who can only talk the talk. Those in know, of course, know Obama has very strong policies as well as his ability to talk.

The uneducated are swayed by the pandering listed by AdLib. The educated see these as insults. It is a major divide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/06/2008
- deedrdo I'm a Fan of deedrdo 6 fans permalink

what a freakin' snob.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 05/06/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

It boggles my mind how anybody can fall for the tax holiday that Clinton is not doing one damn thing to initiate in the Senate.

Just how dumb to you have to be to realize nobody is going to make this happen this summer, and especially not Hillary who has other priorities?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 05/06/2008
- deb813 I'm a Fan of deb813 5 fans permalink

The Clinton campaign mocked her voters as Walmart greeters. Those are the people she is appealing too. The kind of people who can listen to Reverand Wrights words and pretend they come out of Obama's mouth so they don't have to vote for him. They don't have to think it's just a visceral response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 05/06/2008

Voters are being turned away in Mecklenburg County, NC. They are being told that they are registered Republicans and can't vote but once they check with the Board of Elections, they are registered Democrats. LET THE TRICKERY BEGIN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/06/2008

Thanks for the report. Please keep us updated on anything else you may find suspicious! Thanks!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/06/2008
- williamina I'm a Fan of williamina 7 fans permalink

When i was in line, the guy behind me was blasting past Rush shows on his iPod so loud that I could hear what Rush was saying. He had an evil grin too. I think he was one of them there Operation Chaos operatives. What is even more suspicions was how he was greeted at the registration table. I think the person working the table was a deep plant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/06/2008
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