Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

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DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI | May 6, 2008 11:43 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, arrives at a primary election night rally in Raleigh, N.C.,Tuesday, May 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to a narrow Indiana lead, struggling to halt her rival's march into history.

"Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States," Obama told a raucous rally in Raleigh, N.C. _ and left no doubt he intended to claim the prize.

Clinton and Obama both said the former first lady would win Indiana. Yet thousands of votes were yet to be counted, principally in Lake County, not far from Obama's home city of Chicago.

She told cheering supporters in Indianapolis, "Thanks to you, it's full speed on to the White House," signaling her determination to fight on in a campaign already waged across more than 15 months and nearly all 50 states.

Returns from 98 percent of North Carolina precincts showed Obama winning 56 percent of the vote to 42 percent for Clinton, a triumph that mirrored his earlier wins in Southern states with large black populations.

That made Indiana a virtual must-win Midwestern contest for the former first lady, who was hoping to counter Obama's persistent delegate advantage with a strong run through the late primaries. Returns from 88 percent of the state's precincts showed Clinton with 52 percent of the vote to 48 percent for Obama.

Obama won at least 63 delegates and Clinton at least 57 in the two states combined, with 67 still to be awarded.

Voters in both states fell along racial lines long since established in a marathon race between the nation's strongest-ever black presidential candidate and its most formidable female challenger for the White House.

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The economy was the top issue by far in both states, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Two weeks after a decisive defeat in Pennsylvania, Obama sounded increasingly like he was looking forward to the fall campaign.

"This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats ... because we all agree that at this defining moment in history _ a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril _ we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term."

Clinton was joined at her rally by her husband Bill, his face sunburned after hours spent campaigning in small-town North Carolina, and their daughter, Chelsea.

She stressed the issue that came to dominate the final days of the primaries in both states, her call for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. "I think it's time to give Americans a break this summer," she said.

She added that no matter who wins the epic race for the nomination, "I will work for the nominee of this party" in the fall campaign against the Republicans. To emphasize her determination, Clinton announced plans to campaign Thursday in West Virginia, South Dakota and Oregon, three of the remaining primary states.

Obama was gaining more than 90 percent of the black vote in Indiana, while Clinton was winning an estimated 61 percent of the white vote there.

In North Carolina, Clinton won 60 percent of the white vote, while Obama claimed support from roughly 90 percent of the blacks who cast ballots.

Obama's delegate haul edged him closer to his prize _ 1808.5 to 1,665 for Clinton in The Associated Press count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

As he told his supporters, Obama was on pace to finish the night within 200 delegates of the total needed. There are 217 delegates at stake in the six primaries yet to come. Another 270 superdelegates remain uncommitted.

He has long led Clinton among delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, and has increasingly narrowed his deficit among superdelegates who will attend the convention by virtue of their status as party leaders. The AP tally showed Clinton with 269.5 superdelegates, and Obama with 255.

The impact of a long-running controversy over Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was difficult to measure.

In North Carolina, six in 10 voters who said Wright's incendiary comments affected their votes sided with Clinton. A somewhat larger percentage of voters who said the pastor's remarks did not matter supported Obama.

The questionnaire used to learn about voter motivation did not include any questions about the gasoline tax.

In Indiana, about one in five voters said they were independents, an additional one in 10 said Republican.

Only Democrats and unaffiliated voters were permitted to vote in North Carolina.

Voting in Indiana was carried out under a state law, recently upheld by the Supreme Court, that requires voters to produce a valid photo ID. About a dozen nuns in their 80s and 90s at St. Mary's Convent in South Bend were denied ballots because they lacked the necessary identification.

Obama leads Clinton in delegates won in primaries and caucuses. Despite his defeat two weeks ago, he has steadily whittled away at her advantage in superdelegates in the past two weeks and trails 269.5 to 255.

Clinton saved her candidacy with her win in Pennsylvania, and she campaigned aggressively in Indiana in hopes of denying Obama a victory next door to his home state of Illinois. Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers who have been attracted to the former first lady, and she sought to use her call for a federal gas tax holiday to draw them and other economically pinched voters closer.

Inevitably, the issue quickly took on larger dimensions.

Obama said it symbolized a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Clinton retorted, "Instead of attacking the problem, he's attacking my solutions," and ran an ad in the campaign's final hours that said she "gets it."

The balance of the primary schedule includes West Virginia, with 28 delegates on May 13; Oregon with 52 and Kentucky with 51 a week later; Puerto Rico with 55 delegates on June 1, and Montana with 16 and South Dakota with 15 on June 3.

Sen. McCain of Arizona, the Republican nomination already in hand, campaigned in North Carolina and assailed Obama for his vote against confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts.

"Senator Obama in particular likes to talk up his background as a lecturer on law, and also as someone who can work across the aisle to get things done," McCain said. "But ... he went right along with the partisan crowd, and was among the 22 senators to vote against this highly qualified nominee."

Clinton also voted against Roberts, but McCain, as is often the case, focused his remarks on Obama.

Obama's campaign responded that the Republican would pick judges who represent a threat to abortion rights and to McCain's own legislation to limit the role of money in political campaigns.

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David Espo reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Tom Raum in Indianapolis and Libby Quaid in Winston-Salem contributed to this report.

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to...
INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to...
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- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 329 fans permalink
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Recall the scene in Good Will Hunting, where the character played by Robin Williams confronts Matt Damon after months of therapy, and no real break throughs, and he gets in front of him, and tells him, "its not your fault'.

"Yeah, yeah, says Damon, and trys to laugh it off, feeling uncomfortable, trying to get away, but Williams keeps saying, "its not your fault," over and over, and Damon, finally starts to break down, and crys and its the break through he desperately needed, to understand that what happens to us outside of our own willful actions, is "not our fault".

Well, if this time, if the Dems nominate someone who CANNOT win in November,,,, then we can no LONGER claim -

Its not our fault

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/06/2008
- Clem2 I'm a Fan of Clem2 9 fans permalink

Are they taking no more comments? Mine are not posting.

I asked if Republicans can vote for Dems in these primaries, since there has been a movement for some time to have Repubs vote for Hillary, since they know they can beat her. Smart strategy, actually.

So if someone knows please inform me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 05/06/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Republicans can vote for Democrats in an Indiana primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/06/2008
- dm92 I'm a Fan of dm92 11 fans permalink

I have seen some reports that say at least 10% of the people voting in IN are crossovers today - not sure is they are part of the chaos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 05/06/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 86 fans permalink

I repeatedly e-mailed the DNC when the primaries began that this would happen. It's happened already in TX, OH, and PA. In TX, if Republicans had not crossed over, Obama would have won the popular vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 05/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 111 fans permalink
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I understand there's a surplus of "good news" recently, what with gas tax cuts, flag pins and Rush Limbaugh joining the party, so to speak.

But in case you may have missed this last night:

" California superdelegates' wavering bodes ill for Hillary Clinton"

By Scott Martelle, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 5, 2008

Some who have supported her say they'll switch to Barack Obama if she doesn't make big gains in the remaining Democratic primaries.

FRESNO -- Hillary Rodham Clinton, stung last week by the defection of a prominent superdelegate, could lose the backing of more of these Democratic Party leaders and elected officials if she fails to make significant gains in the remaining month of presidential nominating contests, several California superdelegates said this weekend.

continues: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-supers5-2008may05,0,7268981.story

(You may have to cut & paste the link it won't post as a link in full)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 05/06/2008
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Thanks for the link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 05/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 111 fans permalink
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For you anything. Besides you are 1000 links ahead of me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 05/06/2008
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So why isn't anyone calling Hillary the "white candidate"? Funny, things don't work that way do they.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 05/06/2008
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I'll have to remember that after the nomination! Yep, I'll be talking about Obama and that white guy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 05/06/2008
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Hillary is the white candidate. Now it's been said. Anything else you need?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 05/06/2008
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The overwhelming problems of this country can all be summed up in one word: Iraq. It is a ruinous war that has damaged everything else. If we just look at the economics of the war, we’ve lost chances to fix Social Security, fix health care, improve education and give more students a chance to go to college, and fix our infrastructure. It has caused the price of oil to skyrocket, and people barely have enough to pay for gas to go to work to pay for the mortgages they can’t afford.

Add to that mess the most disastrous consequence of all, the tremendous loss of life (both American and Iraqi). When you look at it that way, how in the world can people think that Senator Clinton now has the judgment she lacked back when it mattered most? Twenty-three other senators said “nay,” why didn’t she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/06/2008
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I have a different two words: CAPITALISM and RELIGION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 05/06/2008
- Clem2 I'm a Fan of Clem2 9 fans permalink

Is this a primary where Repubs can vote, or only Dems?

I ask because the Repubs have been turning out in big numbers to vote for Hillary.

That's who they want to run against since she can't win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 05/06/2008
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More people are realizing how our two party system is a sham

and that Hillary Clinton is a corporatist, while at the least Barack

offers US hope that he's a populist instead of another war whore.

Populism is the cure for the debilitating cancer of corporatism!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 05/06/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 86 fans permalink

CNN keeps announcing when the IN polls will close but not the NC polls. My prediction: when the NC polls close, they will immediately announce Obama the winner and then forget about NC focusing on IN because that's where the REAL contest is. (Translation, that is where Clinton is expected to win.) Never mind that NC has 50 more delegates than IN and is more likely to vote Democratic in November than IN ever will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/06/2008
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Image is everything and the MSM is all

about minimizing everything populist!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 05/06/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 329 fans permalink
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God - hear our prayer

End this nonsense and let us get on with the business of replacing an incompetent, corrupt, arrogant nest of theives that have taken over OUR house

Let us unite behind one man, one purpose, one goal: To bring responsible, reasoned, just, incorruptable leadership back to the United States of America

May we, as a nation of good intentions and generous hearts, show the world we are capable of great acts, great ideas, great wisdom, that we might be lead by just men and women who have respect for the law of man and the laws of the Universe, because the Universe is INVESTED in our EVOLUTION forward into the age of Energy and right action.

Amen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/06/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 86 fans permalink

Amen. Do you think he is listening? I dunno. Remember how Mother Teresa always said that if a person had never received love from a fellow human being, it would be impossible for him to envision the love of God? Well, I'm getting to the point where if I don't see some justice in this life, I'm going to be very disinclined to believe it will come from a god in a next life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/06/2008

Life is NOW.......­......

And, I just experienced blessing through the words of KOisGod.

Thank you KOisGod...­..........­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 05/06/2008

Amen and amen......­........
Beautiful thoughts and wonderfully worded!
Peace be unto you.

May the Eternal Spirit of Goodness and Hope be with us all.......­.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 05/06/2008
- DebofMD I'm a Fan of DebofMD 16 fans permalink
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Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 05/06/2008
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My only hope is that the supers are taking note of this and making their decisions accordingly. This is clearly voter fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 05/06/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 86 fans permalink

There have to be enough supers in Obama's column before May 31 so that Oregon on May 20 can put him over the top, and Clinton's appeal before the rules committee will be moot. Please supers, do not wait until June 3. It might be too late by then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/06/2008

The SDs are political animals, they know what's going on here and they'll get behind Obama when the time is right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/06/2008

i thought that they was angles, bbu but to my supirse, I climeb abored there startships, and headed for the kies, saying come sale away, comes ale awya, come and sale awya with me

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 05/06/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Let's play honest political pundit:

"Why can't Hillary Clinton close the gap with Democratic voters? "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 05/06/2008
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This is just a wild guess, but could it have anything to do with being the most hated politician in America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/06/2008
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There's a difference between hating a politician because of some character flaw or deception, that's not the reason behind the hatred here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 111 fans permalink
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Because the media didn't notice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/06/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Because Rush Limbaugh is running her Get Out the Vote operation?

Discuss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/06/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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FYI, CyrilOReily is a new sock for the racially prejudiced "haboob".

Recommend ignoring this dishonest, hateful, attention-desperate weasel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 05/06/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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I never like George W Bush's politics but I'm to the put the Clinton's really scare me, I've never seen such power hungary people I swear she would sell her own mother to win this race. She and McCain will never get my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/06/2008

Wow, power hungry people in politics. Who would have known! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/06/2008
- iBgood I'm a Fan of iBgood 2 fans permalink

There are a lot of rednecks in southern Indiana. I'm talking kkk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/06/2008
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They'll probably be voting Republicain then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/06/2008
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There's a lot of them here too, but ours have learned to read and type.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/06/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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KKK = Krackers Krazy for Klinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/06/2008

heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 05/06/2008
- storeyy I'm a Fan of storeyy 18 fans permalink
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I'm gonna sell t-shirts..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 05/06/2008

That is the reason for her wins in PA and Ohio. Unfortunately, racism is still very much alive!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/06/2008
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