Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

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DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI | May 6, 2008 11:43 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, arrives at a primary election night rally in Raleigh, N.C.,Tuesday, May 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to a narrow Indiana lead, struggling to halt her rival's march into history.

"Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States," Obama told a raucous rally in Raleigh, N.C. _ and left no doubt he intended to claim the prize.

Clinton and Obama both said the former first lady would win Indiana. Yet thousands of votes were yet to be counted, principally in Lake County, not far from Obama's home city of Chicago.

She told cheering supporters in Indianapolis, "Thanks to you, it's full speed on to the White House," signaling her determination to fight on in a campaign already waged across more than 15 months and nearly all 50 states.

Returns from 98 percent of North Carolina precincts showed Obama winning 56 percent of the vote to 42 percent for Clinton, a triumph that mirrored his earlier wins in Southern states with large black populations.

That made Indiana a virtual must-win Midwestern contest for the former first lady, who was hoping to counter Obama's persistent delegate advantage with a strong run through the late primaries. Returns from 88 percent of the state's precincts showed Clinton with 52 percent of the vote to 48 percent for Obama.

Obama won at least 63 delegates and Clinton at least 57 in the two states combined, with 67 still to be awarded.

Voters in both states fell along racial lines long since established in a marathon race between the nation's strongest-ever black presidential candidate and its most formidable female challenger for the White House.

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The economy was the top issue by far in both states, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Two weeks after a decisive defeat in Pennsylvania, Obama sounded increasingly like he was looking forward to the fall campaign.

"This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats ... because we all agree that at this defining moment in history _ a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril _ we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term."

Clinton was joined at her rally by her husband Bill, his face sunburned after hours spent campaigning in small-town North Carolina, and their daughter, Chelsea.

She stressed the issue that came to dominate the final days of the primaries in both states, her call for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. "I think it's time to give Americans a break this summer," she said.

She added that no matter who wins the epic race for the nomination, "I will work for the nominee of this party" in the fall campaign against the Republicans. To emphasize her determination, Clinton announced plans to campaign Thursday in West Virginia, South Dakota and Oregon, three of the remaining primary states.

Obama was gaining more than 90 percent of the black vote in Indiana, while Clinton was winning an estimated 61 percent of the white vote there.

In North Carolina, Clinton won 60 percent of the white vote, while Obama claimed support from roughly 90 percent of the blacks who cast ballots.

Obama's delegate haul edged him closer to his prize _ 1808.5 to 1,665 for Clinton in The Associated Press count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

As he told his supporters, Obama was on pace to finish the night within 200 delegates of the total needed. There are 217 delegates at stake in the six primaries yet to come. Another 270 superdelegates remain uncommitted.

He has long led Clinton among delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, and has increasingly narrowed his deficit among superdelegates who will attend the convention by virtue of their status as party leaders. The AP tally showed Clinton with 269.5 superdelegates, and Obama with 255.

The impact of a long-running controversy over Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was difficult to measure.

In North Carolina, six in 10 voters who said Wright's incendiary comments affected their votes sided with Clinton. A somewhat larger percentage of voters who said the pastor's remarks did not matter supported Obama.

The questionnaire used to learn about voter motivation did not include any questions about the gasoline tax.

In Indiana, about one in five voters said they were independents, an additional one in 10 said Republican.

Only Democrats and unaffiliated voters were permitted to vote in North Carolina.

Voting in Indiana was carried out under a state law, recently upheld by the Supreme Court, that requires voters to produce a valid photo ID. About a dozen nuns in their 80s and 90s at St. Mary's Convent in South Bend were denied ballots because they lacked the necessary identification.

Obama leads Clinton in delegates won in primaries and caucuses. Despite his defeat two weeks ago, he has steadily whittled away at her advantage in superdelegates in the past two weeks and trails 269.5 to 255.

Clinton saved her candidacy with her win in Pennsylvania, and she campaigned aggressively in Indiana in hopes of denying Obama a victory next door to his home state of Illinois. Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers who have been attracted to the former first lady, and she sought to use her call for a federal gas tax holiday to draw them and other economically pinched voters closer.

Inevitably, the issue quickly took on larger dimensions.

Obama said it symbolized a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Clinton retorted, "Instead of attacking the problem, he's attacking my solutions," and ran an ad in the campaign's final hours that said she "gets it."

The balance of the primary schedule includes West Virginia, with 28 delegates on May 13; Oregon with 52 and Kentucky with 51 a week later; Puerto Rico with 55 delegates on June 1, and Montana with 16 and South Dakota with 15 on June 3.

Sen. McCain of Arizona, the Republican nomination already in hand, campaigned in North Carolina and assailed Obama for his vote against confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts.

"Senator Obama in particular likes to talk up his background as a lecturer on law, and also as someone who can work across the aisle to get things done," McCain said. "But ... he went right along with the partisan crowd, and was among the 22 senators to vote against this highly qualified nominee."

Clinton also voted against Roberts, but McCain, as is often the case, focused his remarks on Obama.

Obama's campaign responded that the Republican would pick judges who represent a threat to abortion rights and to McCain's own legislation to limit the role of money in political campaigns.

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David Espo reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Tom Raum in Indianapolis and Libby Quaid in Winston-Salem contributed to this report.

INDIANAPOLIS — Barack Obama swept to victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton clung to...
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- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 67 fans permalink
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Since Ohio, the Hillary Clinton platform has been about nothing more than coded racial politics, everything else to her supporters is moot at this point. The only way to beat Obama is to make him Black, really really Black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 05/06/2008

CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE

About the vote counting in FL and MI, here's the evidence that Clinton pledged along with the others to not count those votes:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8wX99qUo3Ow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 05/06/2008
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Bush, McCain, and Hillary all operate under one of two assumptions

1. Video tapes self-destroy as per Mission Impossible.
2. People don't care if they constantly contradict themselves.

This frees them to put their foot in their mouths without fear of looking stupid, devious or duplicitous. Must be nice.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/06/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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I think the problem is that whatever the drumbeat of the MSM, that's what people are going to dance to. If they repeat, ad nauseam, that Kerry is a "flip-flopper", but they call no attention to the flip-flopping of Bush, or another candidate, then that is what a significant percentage of the voters will adhere to. For the most part, our candidates are bought and sold to us, and we're not very discerning customers.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/06/2008
- gomonkeygo I'm a Fan of gomonkeygo 4 fans permalink

This only works if you are white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/06/2008

Hahahahaa, OUCH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/06/2008
- renoir I'm a Fan of renoir 18 fans permalink

of course she did. that was always part of the deal... that's why her hypocrisy right now is so offensive... because she agreed to this months ago, along with obama and the other dem candidates. her attempt at a power grab in our party is especially alarming when we consider the nasty games that bush and company have pulled on us all for these past 7 years. now ONE OF OURS is going to play that same game? for me this shows a complete lack of ethics and perspective on clinton's part. and it's disingenuous for her to act as if it's all about the voters. how stupid does she think we are?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/06/2008

Today is the final day Hillary can win. But to do so, she needs at least 69% of the vote in Indiana and NC.

But she won't get 69% in Indiana, and she won't get 69% in North Carolina. It is impossible for her to beat Obama's lead.

You can do the math yourself: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Unless she gets 69% of the vote in both races tonight, she doesn't have a chance of winning this thing. Tonight she has to either close the deal by beating Obama by double digits, or she has to go home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/06/2008
- gomonkeygo I'm a Fan of gomonkeygo 4 fans permalink

But she still won't quit. Yesterday's ridiculous "nuclear option" scheme and today's raising of the bar on needed delegates proves that. She could lose both IN and NC by 20 points and still say "But I'm obviously the better candidate - why can't you people see that!"

Expect this all to be continued after tomorrow...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 05/06/2008

Hillary is like a guy I once dated. He said whatever it took to get what he wanted, and once he got it, that was the end of the story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/06/2008
- JohnnieP I'm a Fan of JohnnieP 4 fans permalink

As it stands, right now, there are 3 things that the United States, definitely doesn't need: 1. A self-pro-
moting liar who has unabashedly prefabricated her own life experiences during the course of her
campaign, in order to make her seem as though she were some sort of an American hero while performing her acts of patriotism in her service to the U.S., which, by the way, were never performed
to begin with, being sworn-in as President of the U.S. in January, 2009: 2. The aforementioned self-promoting liar's husband, who, also, has also pulled out all the stops in order to get his wife on the presidential ballot, this Fall, pulling the strings, behind the scenes from day one, while his lying wife attempts to play the role of President; and 3. A senile hold-over frrom the 1930's who's so out-
of-touch with what's going on in the 21st century that it's enough to make one sick, being elected U.S.
President and continuing the travesty of the Bush Administration for even 1 more day after the lying
and thieving Bushites are out of office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/06/2008

Wow, your site is messed up, in case you're not aware of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/06/2008

Clinton needs at least 69% of the vote in ALL remaining races to beat Obama's lead.

If she does not get 69% in Indiana AND North Carolina today, what's the point of staying in the race?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/06/2008
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She's bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 05/06/2008
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And clinging.
Don't forget clinging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 05/06/2008
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So she can continually try to change the rules and the goalposts to her advantage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/06/2008
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It appears that an awful lot of Republicans are coming out to vote for Hillary.

Nice to see that she has earned the backing of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/06/2008
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We don't call 'em dittoheads for nothin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/06/2008
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I hear Jeb's son is going to intern in her White House!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/06/2008
- andyboy I'm a Fan of andyboy 78 fans permalink

JRandomPoster,

Good point. They also flood this site per the ravings of Limbaugh and O'Reilly. 9 out of 10 of the supposed Hillary supporters are actually Bushbots. They hate that HuffPo is so popular and influential while sites like Michelle Malkin.com are largely ignored.

Does Rush have a website? Does anybody care if Rush has a website? O'Reilly?

What is patriotism? Hating your fellow American. Especially if he's black.

Limbaugh used to go on air and just rant and rave like a maniac with fake righteous indignation over drug addicted black people getting help to find a job or assistance finding transportation to job interviews.

Now he urges his listeners to cheat the electoral system openly. And he is proud of it!

It's a sad commentary when so many little Hitlers litter our landscape and seek power and priviledge through the manipulation of brain dead automatons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/06/2008
- neocon43 I'm a Fan of neocon43 29 fans permalink

Who cheated the electoral system.Democrats in New Hampshire crossed over to give Mccain the win over Romney.Are you proud of that.That is the only reason operation chaos is alive today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/06/2008
- Mij13 I'm a Fan of Mij13 75 fans permalink
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That's his girl!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/06/2008
- Rubyfoo I'm a Fan of Rubyfoo 7 fans permalink

It will never be over. This is Groundhog Day, the primary from Hell. The only way out is to click your heels and say three times, "There's no one like Kucinich."

BTW, does anyone else suspect that the Wright thing at the Press Club was a hit job? Could Wright be for Clinton? Was he promised an ambassadorship?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/06/2008

Why hasnt Denny boy cast his lot as yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/06/2008
- Rubyfoo I'm a Fan of Rubyfoo 7 fans permalink

Maybe he doesn't like either candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 05/06/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

sausage stuck in each orafice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/06/2008
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UFOs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 05/06/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

Well idk.

I recall posting here more than amonth ago in a thread (it was actually a huffpick!) that IMO under no circumstances should Wright say anything at all, b/c the media would just take it out of context and blow it up out of proportion.

So, I am no rocket scientist - if I could see that it stands to reason that a Clinton supporter could figure it out. Then, it would just be a matter of getting Wright to talk and provoking him.

I don't think he is a Clinton person, but I DO think he was rightfully pissed about being misrepresented and smeared, esp. after the years of actual good the guy has done and the sterling reputation he had even among white clergy. If I were so smeared so unfairly, I would certainly be easily provoked into shooting my mouth off and letting the media know just how stupid I thought they were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/06/2008
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I blame it on an ego problem w/Wright but if you

think that the press is just trying to sell copy, you

don't see how corporatist the MSM has become.

Barack is fighting the HRC, the GOP & the MSM!

Populism is the cure for the evils of corporatism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/06/2008
- butchie65 I'm a Fan of butchie65 7 fans permalink

It was her supporter that brought himto the Press Club to speak. What do you think ? Money talks !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/06/2008
- storeyy I'm a Fan of storeyy 23 fans permalink
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Money, book deal and a cable show..........$$$$$$$ for Rev Wright. He sold out for fame and fortune.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/06/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1657 fans permalink
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Thus far, all rednecks voted for Hillary, or at least that's what they think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/06/2008
- andyboy I'm a Fan of andyboy 78 fans permalink

The joke is on the dullard simpletons from Ohio and Pa. Hillary helped ship all the high paying factory jobs overseas and now she goes back AFTER helping ruin their economies by strealing their jobs so some corporate big wig can get a jillion dollar bonus and lies right in their face telling them it was "good" for them and they vote for her. They deserve to get screwed again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 05/06/2008
- Mr Grey I'm a Fan of Mr Grey 5 fans permalink
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It's almost over? Yeah right. I don't think so! I think the worst is yet to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/06/2008

Dear Clinton Supporters:

Do the math: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

She cannot win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 05/06/2008
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Bill Clinton: “My daughter said the other day in response to a question, ‘Do you think your mother would be a better president than your father?’ She said, ‘Of course I do’. When I called my daughter, I thought she would say, ‘Oh Dad, chill out. You can’t run for anything. She’s on the ballot. What do you expect me to say?’
“That’s not what she said. I called her, she said, ‘Dad, they asked me a direct question. I had to tell the truth.’” At this point, the former president departed from his standard telling of the anecdote and added: “Here’s what I want you to know. For this time in our history, I agree with my daughter. I love my wife but I love my country. I would never be here telling you something I didn’t believe.”

The Clintons are phonies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/06/2008
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That's why Bill Clinton lied to the American people, under oath and was disbarred. Because he would never tell us something he didn't believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/06/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

The spawn of Bill and Hillary said "I had to tell the truth."


That may be the biggest lie of all time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 05/06/2008
- MSaldana I'm a Fan of MSaldana 3 fans permalink

Has Chelsea done or said anything to harm you? You are an abusive bully. Get lost!

-MS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/06/2008

Unfortunately the Obama campaign failed to use the most effective argument against Hillary's gas tax holiday proposal: She is promising something she cannot deliver.

There is no support for this measure in Congress. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans in either the House or the Senate are willing to support it. It does not have a snowball's chance in hell to get through Congress, and even if it did, President Bush would veto it.

So Hillary is doing the equivalent of selling the Brooklin Bridge to the voters, when she cannot deliver the Brooklin Bridge because she does not own it.

HILLARY IS SCAMMING THE VOTERS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/06/2008
- andyboy I'm a Fan of andyboy 78 fans permalink

CaptainVideo,

But that's what their for right? To scam. Hillary is the biggest phony in Washington. Since Rumsfeld left.

My favorite is; Hillary is not an elitist. I roll on the floor whenever I hear her insult Americans right to their face.

"I care so much about you I'm willing to throw some spare change at you like a homeless person"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/06/2008
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