North Carolina, Indiana Primaries: Full Results, Exit Polls

INDIANA RESULTS - 99% Reporting

Clinton
638,192
51%

Obama
615,753
49%

NORTH CAROLINA RESULTS - 99% Reporting

Obama
889,513
56%

Clinton
657,616
42%

See complete exit poll breakdown here.

And the latest state of the race:

Obama won at least 94 delegates in the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, according to an analysis of election returns by The Associated Press. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won at least 75 delegates, with 18 still to be awarded.

Sixteen of the outstanding delegates were from North Carolina and two were from Indiana.

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In the overall race for the nomination, Obama led with 1,840.5 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,684.

Obama was 184.5 delegates shy of the 2,025 needed to secure the Democratic nomination.

ELECTION RESULTS NEWS:

1:30 AM - Obama Shifts To General Election Mode: "The Obama campaign appears poised to begin running its general election campaign after Tuesday night’s primaries seemed unlikely to change the math or the momentum in the Democratic nomination," the Wall Street Journal reports.

David Axelrod, the top Obama strategist, told reporters that Barack Obama would compete for the six remaining Democratic contests, where 217 delegates are at stake. But he said that the campaign would soon focus on the general election because likely Republican nominee John McCain had “basically run free for some time now because we’ve been consumed with this." He added: “I don’t think we’re going to spend time solely in primary states.”

Pressed by reporters whether that meant the campaign would make stops in general election states over the next month, Axelrod said: “You could infer that from what I said.

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1:05 AM - Pledged Delegate Race Is Over: Politico's delegate counter estimates a net +15 for Obama: Clinton +2 in Indiana, Obama +17

What's interesting if these numbers hold is that this assures that Obama will win a majority of the 3,253 pledged delegates [excluding Florida and Michigan]. He's now at 1,494. Under this set of numbers, he picks up 101 for a total of 1,595. A majority is 1,627, so he's 33 short. If you assume he makes threshold in each of the remaining 24 districts for one delegate and then picks up at least one PLEO and one at-large in each of the 6 remaining contests, he's at 1,631. The battle for the majority of pledged delegates is over.

12:30 AM - Russert: Obama Is The Nominee: "We now know who the Democratic nominee is going to be," NBC's Tim Russert just declared on MSNBC.

The Meet the Press host was referring to Barack Obama, who won a decisive victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton in today's North Carolina primary and is within just a few percentage points of her in the Indiana vote count.

The network's Chuck Todd just ran through the math and calculated that Obama now leads Clinton in the "popular vote" by about 710,000 -- and by 200,000 if the disputed primaries in Florida and Michigan are counted. He also leads by about 160 Democratic convention delegates, Todd said.

12:24 AM - The Clinton Message: From Ambinder: "And the message to the media and to the superdelegates is: Everybody, let's take a deep breath. Let's look at the results. Let's think hard about the choices we face. Let's not rush Sen. Clinton."

12:06 AM - Clinton Cancels Morning Show Apparances: So says Tim Russert on MSNBC. "It's a sign of weakness she can ill afford at a moment when questions about whether she can continue are mounting."

11:30 - Take That Wright: "How Barack Obama ended his victory speech in North Carolina: 'May God bless you and the United States of America.' Damn he's good!"

11:15 - Clinton Muted: Ben Smith:

I've been out on the road with Clinton for the past few days, during which she was perhaps the sharpest she's been in her political career. Forceful, clear, connecting intensely with her crowds, utterly at ease with her message.

Tonight, that energy has really, strikingly vanished.

Bill, behind her, is somber too. And she's promised, "no matter what happens," to work to pull the party together.

From ABC's Rick Klein:

"A hint of healing to come? "We are all on the same team." "No matter what happens, I will work for the Democratic nominee, because we must win in November."

These could be the most important lines of the night.

To me, at least, Sen. Clinton's body language tells the story -- even if you don't look at the glum expression on Bill's face. Tonight, she needed a big win in a big state -- and she's winding up with a small win, while Sen. Obama won a bigger state.

Watch her full speech:

11:10 - Kos Doesn't Want Hillary To Drop Out (Yet): "If Clinton were to drop out this week, we'd face an uncomfortable situation in West Virginia, with Clinton likely crushing Obama. That would look terrible for the presumptive nominee. Better than that would be to garner enough superdelegate commitments this week, so that Oregon can push Obama past 2,024. That way, it isn't the supers who clinch it for Obama, but actual voters."

11:04 - Gary Mayor Predicts Indiana Shocker: The Washington Post reports:

As the fate of a nailbiter Indiana primary -- and possibly the course of the Democratic race -- hung on his city, Gary Mayor Rudy Clay said just now that it might take a while yet to finish counting the vote in Lake County, which includes Gary, and said that his city had turned out so overwhelmingly for Barack Obama that it might just be enough to close the gap with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"Let me tell you, when all the votes are counted, when Gary comes in, I think you're looking at something for the word to see," Clay, an Obama supporter, said in a telephone interview from Obama's Gary headquarters. "I don't know what the numbers are yet, but Gary has absolutely produced in large numbers for Obama here."

10:24 - Clinton "Victory" Speech Delayed: So says Mark Halperin.

10:22 - Why Indiana Margin Closed: MSNBC explains how Clinton went from a double-digit lead in Indiana to a razor-thin margin.

10:14 - Obama 'Concedes' Indiana: "When Barack Obama took the stage to bask in his big victory in North Carolina's Democratic presidential primary, all but one of the television networks still were unwilling to call the day other contest, In Indiana," the LA Times notes. "But Obama showed no such hesitation, saying early in his remarks that he wanted to congratulate Hillary Clinton 'on what appears to be her victory in the great state of Indiana.'"

Here's Obama's full speech:

10:00 - How Does Clinton Win It? Obama supporter (to say the least) Andrew Sullivan writes:

There is no calculation that currently gives the Clintons a majority of the popular vote. There is now no mathematical possibility of them getting more delegates. Obama has won by far the most states. He has raised far more money; he has 1.5 million donors, mainly small sums. He has crushed her among new voters and young voters; and as a black politician, his support spans all races and classes. And recall: he is a freshman senator with a very funny name against the biggest brand name in American politics and a worldwide celebrity whose chief campaigner was a former two-term president of the United States.

9:30 - Obama Campaign's Talking Points: Lynn Sweet gets a copy:

"There really has never been any question that Senator Clinton would win Indiana," said a Obama talking points memo out Tuesday. Team Obama also blames Rush Limbaugh for urging Republicans to infiltrate the primary and vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

8:50 - Obama Camp Expects To "Clinch" On May 20: More from Ambinder:

May 20 -- that's the date when the campaign unofficially expects to "clinch" the nomination -- when they'll officially have a majority of pledged delegates, which triggers, in their view, the standard for superdelegate decision-making set by party leaders like Nancy Pelosi.

As of tonight, Obama will be between 35 and 43 pledged delegates votes away from achieving that majority.

8:30 - Obama Campaign Confident: Marc Ambinder: "The Obama campaign expects to end the night with an expanded lead in the pledged delegate count and having erased Clinton's popular vote gains out of Pennsylvania."

8:19 - Clinton Camp Raises 'Tiebreaker' Comment: An email from Clinton spokesman Phil Singer:

Senator Obama called Indiana the 'tiebreaker' for the Democratic nominating process: "You know, Sen. Clinton is more favored in Pennsylvania," he added, "and I'm right now a little more favored in North Carolina, so Indiana right now may end up being the tiebreaker. So we want to work very hard in Indiana."

Comments

[bison2]

An important story within the North Carolina primary that is getting buried, is the North Carolina U.S. Senatorial race. In this competitive race an African American candidate Marcus W. Williams was defeated by a white woman candidate Kay R. Hagan. African Americans overwhelming voted for Hagan over Williams, at the same time they voted for Obama. This clearly suggest that African Americans do not merely vote on the basis of race otherwise Williams would have fair much better. Indeed, black and white North Carolinas recognized that Hagan’s stand on the issues were far better than Williams.

[jrterrier]

has anyone seen any reports on this?

HUGE NC Vote MisCount Favored Obama
by internetstar, Fri May 09, 2008 at 06:39:47 PM EST

In at least one county, ballots were counted twice for Obama.
They gave him 15,000 extra votes.

"MECKLENBURG & WAKE COUNTIES -- Vote tallies are changing in the state's two largest counties, after certain ballots were counted twice in Mecklenburg and Wake counties.

The mistake didn't change the outcome of any elections, but it is a cause for concern to election directors.

For example, when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama declared victory Tuesday night in North Carolina's primary, he was given approximately 15,000 votes more than he should have been.

That's 1 percent of all ballots cast.

In Wake County, early and absentee ballots were counted as part of the individual voters precincts and again as a whole.

"So in essence, those voters were recorded double," said Cherie Poucher of the Wake Co. Board of Elections. It was around 37,000 votes.

In Mecklenburg County, only absentee ballots - 2,400 in all - were doubled. "It doesn't change any of the results," said Michael Dickerson of the Mecklenburg Co. Board of Elections. "All the winners are still the winners."

[Dustee]

Indiana closer then we thought.

Hillary = 50.9 Barack = 49.1

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/NEWS05/80326049

[realtalk]

I HAVE TO STRONGLY CAUTION ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS WHOSE STATES HAVE NOT YET VOTED, PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE WHEN YOUR VOTING DATE ARRIVES. THE RACE IS NOT OVER, SO DO NOT BUY INTO WHAT THE MEDIA IS SAYING. THEY ARE GIVING OFF A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.

IF THE MEDIA ARE ABLE TO GET OBAMA'S VOTERS TO STAY AT HOME, WITH THE FALSE SENSE THAT OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON, HILLARY WILL WALK OFF WITH THE NOMINATION, BECAUSE YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT HILLARY IS TELLING HER SUPPORTERS TO GO OUT AND VOTE.

OBAMA SUPPORTERS, THIS RACE IS NOT DONE UNTIL ALL THE VOTING IN EVERY STATE IS DONE.
SO OBAMA VOTERS GET OUT AND VOTE, NO MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS, OBAMA NEEDS ALL YOUR VOTES, THIS RACE IS NOT OVER UNTIL ALL THE STATES HAVE VOTED!!!

[Sneakerface]

As an Obama supporter, I refuse to take advise from anyone who writes in all caps.

[flyfysher]

I read Krugman and he wrote,

"More tirades from Obama supporters against Mrs. Clinton are not the answer — they will only further alienate her grass-roots supporters, many of whom feel that she received a raw deal.

Nor is it helpful to insult the groups that supported Mrs. Clinton, either by suggesting that racism was their only motivation or by minimizing their importance."

On the one hand, I have serious reservations about voting for Obama if he is the nominee because I see nothing more than vapid pronouncements about 'change.' On the other hand, I want what is right for the nation. It is not another Republican administration.

A lot of the comments I have read have been derogatory and insulting of Clinton and they have had the effect of tremendously alienating me from voting for Obama. When I read a lot of these vicious comments here and elsewhere I have to ask just what 'change we can believe in' is actually being promoted. Admittedly there is a sense of reprisal but there is a more important aspect . I am reluctant to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for Obama would be a vote against McCain and not an endorsement of Obama.

Obama's supporters may dismiss me as just being one voter but there are a lot of Clinton supporters like me. Many of the blocks of Clinton supporters would need to be wooed and swayed by Obama. I just do not see that happening.

[getnolder]

Am a admirer of the Obama message of hope and change, and think that flyfisher has made a good point about ragging Hillary Clinton. Thankfully most of the worst negative approach has not been from Sen.. Obama, but from supporters, and should be soon forgotten as we go forward.
The point about not having enough specifics from the Obama camp, I think is not really fair. Specifics are a natural attack point from any opposition... either side. Once "specifics" are stated categorically, any change at all becomes fodder.
I think that Obama has done a good job of pointing up his philosophy, and his goals. If he were to say "I'll bring the servicemen home by March of 2010" then any one left by April of 2010 would be a failure.
I am hoping for a general change in direction. A litany of promises that could only be fulfilled with the total cooperation of Congress would mean nothing.
If Obama was losing. I would vote for Hillary and feel comfortable that she would represent me.
The idea that disgruntled Clinton fans would vote for John McCain because of bitterness over the Obama supporters, says to me that personal biases would override the real and basic convictions of the voter. Position on the issues are what matter to me... not anger over what might be said in the heat of battle.

[KarenJW]

What is wrong with the superdelegates? RUSH LIMBAUGH ADMITS TO INSTRUCTING FELLOW REPUBLICANS TO VOTE FOR HILLARY IN HIS "OPERATION CHAOS".

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/rushlimbaugh.html

[panamanianpirate]

Was that Lake County or Cook County?
Ah, yes... there's those flashbacks from the 60's again.

[dr4Will]

obama can not beat McCain--black and left wing elitists are not enough to defeat moderates,blue collar and the right--how foolish you left wing geeks and black racist are---

[CarlyCorday]

My 35-year-old son and his wife are blue collar moderates. Both are for Obama. Both are white Southerners, living/working in small-town America. There are countless many just like them, old, young, and in-between.

You're believing the MSM. It really doesn't serve you as an American to make that mistake. The media is not for you. They want you to be their faithful drone, though. Don't do it.

[SharonB]

Oh dear. I guess your kids just did not get the memo on how they are supposed to feel about this election. How dare they be regular hard working folks and support Obama???? And, on top of that, they are WHITE??????? The nerve!!!!!!
Oh, wait... I am one of "those" too.


WOO HOOOOOOOOO­OO!!!!!!!!­!!!!

[shades3]

What do you mean when you talk about black racist [sic]???
Do you think that moderates and blue collar workers are all white???
Left wing geeks???? Do you mean people who have more than the four years of formal education that you had???

[DrDemon]

Mostly all of the posts from this bigot contains something about "black". dr4ill tries that reverse psychology routine. A racist attempting to call others exactly what he is. A Racist. Just Hypocritical!

[BMW121]

I don't think you realize how racist your post makes you sound. All those years that Black people went out and voted for the white guy they felt had their best interest at heart, were you calling them Black racists then? When white people went out and voted for the person that looked like them, talked like them, walked like them, were you calling them white racists? Your post makes absolutely no sense in the grand scheme of things. There is no one more foolish than you and your short sighted, narrow minded view point. Instead of understanding that history has just been made, you choose to name call. You're probably a Hillary supporter, she's good at calling names too.

[heal57]

A chimpanzee could beat McCain.


Independents for Obama '08

[Sabreen60]

How ignorant you sound. Black folks have been voting for white folks ever since we were allowed to vote. 82% of blacks were Clinton supporters at the beginning of this race. And FYI, look up the definition of racist. One must have power or belong to the group who has power over another group to be a racist. Therefore, African Americans cannot be racist. They can be bigots and they can be prejudiced. You just need to step aside and let the Americans who love this country try to move her forward.

[Chad53916]

No no no no! Your definition of "racist" is not accurate. Let me help you out...

Racism is a belief system or doctrine which postulates a hierarchy among various human races or ethnic groups. It may be based on an assumption of inherent biological differences between different ethnic groups that purport to determine cultural or individual behaviour.

If you choose to believe this defination, it's evident that people, black AND white, have been throwing this term around very loosely for some time. Racism is about what you believe and is not related whether you're a minority or "another race having power over you". Saying Wright or Obama is racist is ridiculous since their words do not postulate a hierarchy of their race over another. We could stand to benefit from pulling our heads out of the sand to listen to the criticism given us and use it to better ourselves. Go Obama!!

[DrDemon]

For ANY of you think that Obama CAN choose Hillary as V.P., there is no way in hell that could happen.

How , in the world, could Obama choose that pathe for himself when his whole campaign was about CHANGE.

What would he say? Ok, I ran my campaign on change, so I changed my mind about Hillary and I now think she'd make a fine VP.

Oh, remember when I told you all that it's time to change the "old" Washington politics and start fresh? Well, now I think Hillary would make a fine VP. And so on...

If he were to choose her as VP, then the rest of the campaign would be about one thing and one thing only. His HYPOCRISY!

I believe the last thing he needs, going into the general, is her baggage! And besides, she's too divisive for him and his style anyway.

O in 08' - Great!

[BlackWidowPilot]

Doc,

actually, in light of the performance record of "Hundred Years War" McCain & party's actual performance record including the issue of being the vaunted "party of family values:"

http://www.armchairsubversive.org

*Hypocrisy* is IMHO part n' parcel of the "Gang of Pedophiles" and Charles Keating's bought lapdog "Hundred Years War" McCain.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

[heal57]

We're with you but we want Hillary to bow out as any other candidate in her positon would have done by now. It's frustrating. She ran a very nasty campaign. We car reconcile but she has to drop out; and not June 15th. That's way too long.


Independents for Obama '08

[CarlyCorday]

Want to see a sample of why we HAVE TO vote for our Democratic nominee no matter who it is? I got the following email from two 20-something chicken hawks (Stay in Iraq! NO NO NO, not US! We don't want to BE in the fight! We want YOUR SON to do it!) who manage a web site that was sued by Rep. Abourezk (D-SD) for defamation:

[DrDemon]

HAH? ?????

[CarlyCorday]

Hey Doc Demon. I tried to scale it out in 2 posts because it was so long, but it didn't fly with the moderator. So I put it up on my Pofile.

[AnotherMike]

I'm speaking to my fellow Obama supporters:

Stop attacking and antagonizing Clinton's people. Please.

We have been at each other's throats for much too long as it is. Granted, a portion of that has to lay at the figurative feet of the media, but talking heads aside, the voters were heard last night, and that's really who matters. All these windbags can rile up the infighting all they want for ratings, but it's time to realize that we all have the same goal right now: Put a Democrat in the White House who will initiate change in policy and perception.

Senator Hillary Clinton was one hell of a candidate. There isn't one person who could have withstood all she had opposing her, and she just took it head on with a smile and asked for more. I want her in the next administration to some degree and I hope you all agree with me that she earned it. This is Obama's Presidential campaign now, but that was a Clinton vs. Obama primary and it was ridiculous­(SLASH)fun­.

Now let's support our Democratic brothers and sisters, while we enjoy mopping the floor with that pathetic, sacrificial lamb, John McCain.

Yes, we ALL can.

Who's with me?

[CarlyCorday]

ME!

[Nyland8]

I'm with you on reconciliation - but I'm not with you on Rodham having earned any part of an Obama administration. Her first, best destiny is remaining a Senator and trying to force-fit her into his plans is shoving a round peg in a square hole. You can't campaign as the anti-Rodham and then make her Secretary of State. That just doesn't work. And anything less than that wouldn't interest her - unless she was planning on leaving politics anyway.

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[CarlyCorday]

Her supporters are almost half of our party. THEY have earned it.

I'd be more than just "comfortable" with HRC in a major cabinet post. I'd be downright happy.

And "earned it" or not Hillary's supporters are DEMOCRATS. We don't throw Democrats "under the bus" as our beloved MSM is fond of repeating Ad Vomitus.

I have friends who support Hillary. I don't hate my friends.

(This isn't "aimed" at you, N-8)

[AnotherMike]

That's exactly what I'm talking about... Stop calling her Rodham, or Hillbilly, or any other little dig you can get in to remind people of her past and drum up negatives.

I watched a few minutes of FOX last night (hear me out) to get a sense of their back-pedaling on NC and IN's outcome and noticed the glaring difference in mindsets - They abbreviated both Democratic candidates on the crawl: HRC and BHO.

Now, if you feel good about silly little slaps to the face like FOX does, fine. But you'll realize eventually that you can come up with belittling names for women, African-Americans, gays and anyone else who doesn't fit in your comfort zone, but is that really how you want to participate in what we're doing here?

[lilith1]

I'm with you. This was a long and at times a very ugly primary fight and it is coming to a close. Although this was a painful process, do remember that millions of new voters have registered to vote with enthusiasm and a desire for change.

Everyone who wants an end to the Neo-Con dominated Bush Republican White House should remember to keep their eyes on the prize--defeating McCain in November.

[JoeBlough]

Are you part of her campaign ?

[AnotherMike]

I've actually been working for Senator Obama's campaign in Oregon since last summer and as I'm sure you've heard, we might be fortunate enough to have not only a state victory, but primary victory celebration here on the 20th, since the win will give him an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates.

An evening of validation and recognition to that degree would outshine even the endorsement by Bill Richardson, which was announced here in March. In no way would it be for the satisfaction in Clinton's defeat, but rather a celebration of success and reward for our dedication and hard work.

My allegiance is motivated first and foremost by American and Democratic Party unity, then for Sen. Obama... But thank you for asking.

[going2ireland]

Does it matter? The gest of it is that we need to unite as a party now and stop attacking one another. Or is it your choice to continue the backbiting because "this is the fun part"? I am not making fun of Hillary for that comment. I am trying to make a point to my fellow Obama supporters to just step back.

Ask yourself, "would Obama approve of this behavior?". If not, then we need to conduct ourselves accordingly.

[Smartey]

Ding dong, The Witch is Dead. And her little (Horn) dog, too.

[CarlyCorday]

I see silly school-kid posts here, what's the deal!? We're going to call Hillary a witch and go HAHA in all caps? And then what? We send her supporters over to where we've banished Ron Paul's supporters (get lost Paultards!), and that leaves us with WHAT???!!?

GEE thanks to any Obama supporter who thinks this is a G*d Damn football game. You might as well be a repug, looking at the war in Iraq as if it were a superbowl game (you don't want the world to see us LOOOOOOSE, do yoooo?) The 19% of them that still remain are sociopaths, some illiterate, some merely soul-sick, hellbound, and irredeemable.

OK, forget it, I'm just going to hope that the "neener-neener" version of Obama support that I see at these blogs do not represent the majority of Democratic voters.

But the exit polls say otherwise. Hillary's supporters ain't going to vote for our guy. Are y'all happy with that? Just so Obama beats her now, doesn't matter if McWar wins 2009? Apparently so.

[DrDemon]

Her supporters will have to decide what they are going to do and we have no control over their actions. If they want to vote for insane McCain, then so be it.

But if they think they are scrounging for things like the $40 gas tax BS now, then watch what it'll be like if insane McCain was to win the general.

I'm sure that their "protest vote" will kick them all in the ass.

[oldrwsr]

I agree! It's time we all start acting like grown ups and do what we can to make sure McCain only enters the White House as a guest. Bill and Hillary will do what they need to do to help Obama win the election. It's time to start moving this country forward and get out of the 8 years of Hell that is known as the Bush adminstration and Bush war.

[BlackWidowPilot]

"OK, forget it, I'm just going to hope that the "neener-neener" version of Obama support that I see at these blogs do not represent the majority of Democratic voters."

There is another alternative explanation for these posters: agents of provocation (ie., loyal "Repedophile" sock puppets doing their masters' bidding).

Agents of provocation are as old as history itself. We may be We The People, but we are not immune from such skullduggery.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

[CarlyCorday]

I wonder about that aaaaaalll the time, Leland. It may even be the whole (or main) force behind this Democratic primary debacle--a debacle that is, in truth, the GOP's only hope of winning this.

[Chad53916]

Negative, angry people are more likely to post than positive people, I think. Anger is a great motivator of these "annonymous" attackers. I wouldn't think that these blogs represent the majority of supporters of either candidate. Whereas I support Obama and dislike the thought of Clinton being our president, I take no joy in her seemingly imminent defeat. I feel badly for her and her family because of what they've invested in this race. It hurts to lose something you try so hard for. I spend much time on this site because of it's pro-Obama stance, but really don't post that much.

[bitabingbitabangbitaboom]

I`M THE FRIGGIN FAT LADY......­..........­.....AH-HA­-AH-HA-AH-­HA-AH-HA

AND THIS IS MY STAGE.....­..........­..AH-HA-AH­-HA-AH-HA.­........CE­NTRE STAGE.....­.AH-HA-AH-­HA-AH-HA

DA WITCH IS FLYING....­.....AH-HA­-AH-HA-AH-­HA-AH-HA..­..........­DA WITCH IS FLYING....­..........­.....ON

HER BROOMSTICK BROOMSTICK BROOMSTICK­..........­AH-HA-AH-H­A-AH-HA-AH­-HA

[linquistic]

lol

[ShiyinGuan]

Recess is over, freak. It's time to grow up.

[ann1]

I switched back n forth watching the coverage, but I've got to say CNN was by far the most entertaining of all the news outlets. They all seemed to be relaxed and a bit giddy. I believe Lanny Davis' moment of despair was the funniest. No one wanted to talk to him because they knew he was not a happy camper. You could hear them all snickering while listening to him throw tantrums.

[CarlyCorday]

You should have seen Dan Abrams. He was actually writhing and bouncing in his chair, throwing his pencil, stuttering and squeaking, his voice cracking on the high notes like a teenage boy's--describing Obama's speech as "sounding like an acceptance speech" and pleading with his squares of talking heads to agree, then DEMANDING that they agree. I thought he was going to cry, de-mic, get up and stomp out like little Joey Scareborough.

Last night was hard on Dan. A lot of humiliation to eat, but he did it to himself.

[Sneakerface]

Two of the most annoying people on tv politics in the last month are certainly Lanny Davis and Dan Abrams. I understand how people are biased towards their candidates, but Lanny attacks Obama and lifts up Hillary to the point of excluding reality, He brings up election re-do that Obama challenged but neglects to mention that Clinton also vetoed one of the re-votes. Hillary did everything she could to beg Floridians for their "vote" short of setting foot in the state until the polls closed, but all Davis wants to talk about is the ads that Obama bought on a national basis, not realizing that would include FL And Dan Abrams ! He whines on and on unless everyone agrees with him, and pretends he isn't taking sides by putting his statements in the form of a question. "Isn't it just that The Media wants to nail Hillary to a cross and disembowel her ?? Isn't it ??" He constantly obsesses about what "The Media" are doing, as if he were somehow separate from the media.

[scootmandubious]

We are about to find out what type of statesman Hillary Clinton is. If she decides to stay in the race til West Virginia, or beyond, I would not have a problem, as long as she now focused her attacks on John McCain. If she, after last night, continues to try and tear down Obama, she will lose whatever respect I have left for her.

Conversely, I think Obama should turn all his attention, at this point, on attacking the policies of McCain. Mr. "Straight talk express" has been getting away with murder while the Dems have been devouring each other. It is time to focus on the real picture...the general election.

If Senator Clinton does not do that, she does damage to the rest of her political career, not to mention the party (and people) she should be putting first.

[omahkohkiaayo]

I think this is sober and good advice. Yes we should avoid the vitriol that might further antagonize Clinton supporters, but that works both ways does it not?

Please also understand that Obama has many supporters who do not give a wit about the Democratic Party and consider the Party as co-complicit in a whole host of crimes in addition to the illegal and even genocidal Iraq War which is not a "mistake" nor "problem" but is a CRIME--pure and simple.

[heal57]

and I'm one of them.



Independents for Obama '08

[ShiyinGuan]

Agreed. I would seriously love to Hillary direct all her remaining blows at McCain. As much as I hate how she's campaigned against Obama, if she could shift all that negative energy to derailing the Sweet-Talk Express, I might just respect her as a politician again. That bus has been bulldozing pedestrians and hitting cows, and no one's noticed, least of all the MSM.