Gas jumps nearly 3 cents to record; oil crosses $124

JOHN WILEN | May 8, 2008 04:05 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Gasoline and crude oil jumped to new records Thursday, with gas rising 3 cents to an average national price of nearly $3.65 a gallon and oil crossing $124 a barrel for the first time.

At the pump, the average price of a gallon of regular gas nationwide rose 2.7 cents to a record $3.645, according to a survey of stations by AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. Diesel prices also rose, adding 0.9 cent to match a record national average of $4.251 a gallon.

Gas prices tend to lag oil futures, and with crude rising to a new record near $124 a barrel Wednesday and likely headed higher, it's widely expected the average price of gas will soon rise as high as $4. Motorists in many areas, including parts of California and Hawaii, are already paying that much, or more.

"If oil prices go the way that pundits are expecting, there's no way we'll stay under $4 a gallon," said Fadel Gheit, an analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. in New York.

Meanwhile, light, sweet crude for June delivery rose 16 cents to reach a settlement record of $123.69 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange Thursday after spending much of the day in negative territory. But in after-market electronic trading, prices shot to a new trading record of $124.61. Analysts said volume was quite low, making it easy for oil to keep pushing higher.

"This appears to me to be computer-generated buying," said Linda Rafield, senior oil analyst at Platts, the energy research arm of McGraw-Hill Cos. Some investors use software that buys automatically when prices rise to certain levels; Thursday's record settlement may have triggered a flurry of electronic buy orders.

"There is no fundamental news out to cause this market to move like this," Rafield said.

Bullish momentum _ and expectations that the dollar will continue to weaken against foreign currencies including the euro _ are likely to keep pushing oil to new records, he said.

Goldman Sachs analysts recently predicted prices will rise as high as $150 to $200 a barrel within two years. That forecast has driven much of oil's gains in recent days.

Analysts at Goldman and firms such as Barclays Capital believe tight global supplies and growing demand from fast-growing economies in countries such as China and India are driving oil higher. But Gheit and analysts including Tim Evans at Citi Futures Perspective argue that supply and demand fundamentals don't support such high prices.

"There is no reason why oil prices should be above $60," Gheit said, noting that domestic crude supplies are at average levels, and that refineries are cutting gasoline production as high prices cut consumers demand for fuel. "The physical supplies do not justify the price, it just doesn't make sense."

OPEC Secretary General Abdalla Salem El-Badri on Thursday reiterated his position that oil supplies are adequate, and that there is no need for the cartel to boost production. He said several Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries oil projects are coming on line, but he noted that several member countries are having a hard time finding buyers for their additional supplies.

El-Badri agrees with analysts who feel speculative investment driven by the dollar's protracted decline is the real reason behind higher prices. The dollar fell against the euro Thursday, attracting investors who view commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation. Also, a weaker dollar makes oil cheaper to investors overseas.

Still, the market sometimes ignores the dollar, as it did Wednesday when oil surged to new records although the dollar advanced. Some analysts say that's a sign that many investors are buying on pure momentum _ believing prices will head higher regardless of negative data, news or dollar movements.

"There's a lot of momentum driving the oil price up," said Victor Shum, an energy analyst with Purvin & Gertz in Singapore.

In other Nymex trading, June gasoline futures rose 1.96 cents to settle at a record $3.1378 a gallon after earlier rising to a trading record of $3.14, and June heating oil futures rose 6.25 cents to settle at a record $3.5098 a gallon after earlier reaching their own trading record of $3.5152. June natural gas futures fell 6.4 cents to settle at $11.263 per 1,000 cubic feet. The Energy Department said natural gas inventories rose by 65 billion cubic feet last week, but remain slightly below the 5-year average.

In London, June Brent crude futures rose 52 cents to settle at $122.84 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

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AP Business Writers George Jahn in Vienna and Thomas Hogue in Bangkok, Thailand contributed to this report.

 

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I, like you, have been concerned about the ever increasing price of gasoline. I"m also puzzled about some of the alternatives that have been developed, such as bio-fuels from corn. When you stop and think about the time and money allocated to produce these products, the overriding effect they have on the cost of food, as well as the enormous amounts of resources used to manufacture them - it"s amazing that the public has bought into their viability. Ah " the magic of public relations.
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The Air Car is a thing of beauty. Using compressed air to power both a piston engine, as well as a rotary engine, the results are superb. I continue to wonder why the main stream news media, political candidates, the automotive industry, and the public-at-large have not raised their voices about this fantastic invention. Could it have something to do about special interest groups? Hmm.
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replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/09/2008

as if this morning its up to $125.76

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 05/09/2008

Who cares? I am more looking forward to $150 oil and $5/gallon gas. Let's talk again in three months.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 05/08/2008

With McCain in the oval office the GOP (Good On Petroleum) will have us shelling out five dollars a gallon in ten months. We need to get the Cheney energy group under oath in front of a hanging judge; the kind of strict constutionist they are always talking about.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/08/2008

Oil is the fuel that drives the world economies. The price of that oil is based on supply and demand.

Simple enough? Apparently not for the liberals and the enviro-weenies.

U.S. domestic oil production has gone down 40% in the last 25 years, yet demand has gone up by 30%. What that means is that we are that much more dependent of imports from countries that hate us. There is enough oil, shale oil and coal under our own soil to keep our economy running for many decades. We could tell Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia and Venezuela to stick it, all the while developing aternative energies that are cost efficient and market friendly.

Today enviromentalists are nothing but leftover communists that seemed to disappear after the fall of the Soviet Union and now they are leading a movement to bring down the big bad United States.

If we continue to let the enviro-wackos dictate our energy policy through lawsuits and bribes of Democrat and some Republican politicans thru lobbyists, the aging commies will win.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 05/08/2008

I find it amusing when a conservative accuses environmentalists of being "communists".

The communist and former communist countries have some of the worst environmental records on the planet. Parts of Russia are still environmental disaster areas and China is horribly polluted.

If environmentalism was a communist plot, they sure as hell never followed their own plot.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 05/09/2008

Do you know what a cartel does, knucklehead?
It doesn't set the price of oil based on supply and demand.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 05/09/2008

The price is set by the Commodities Market. The "cartels" control the supply.

If we started our own "cartel", the supply would go up and the price would come down.

Economics 101.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 05/09/2008

Controlling the supply sets the price, so OPEC is setting it, not a "market".

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/09/2008

Thanks for making my point.

We need more supply.........start drilling yesterday.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 05/10/2008

Archie Bunker is alive and well :)

Y'all need to get back under that rock ..... it's safer there.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 05/08/2008

I think you vastly overestimate the extent of US oil reserves and the power of the environmental lobby.

We picked all the low hanging fruit here decades ago. The reason most of what's left hasn't been developed yet is simple economics. A lot of that oil is hard to get at and just not profitable to pull out of the ground when oil was $40/barrel. Up until recently, it's been a lot cheaper just to get oil from Saudi Arabia than to blast it out Canadian tar shale or drill 5000 feet beneath the ocean floor.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/08/2008

as a short term solution we need European cars starting next year being made for us then a program to trade in old gas guzzlers. Thats all that will actually help and we have to make it mandatory and tell people the trouble we really are in. This will help the gas prices, then we need electric cars that are actually 5 to 8 times more efficient than the most efficient gas car when it comes to energy consumption should be the goal. Things would be much less polluting and more sustainable. We should then combine Geo-thermal, solar and wind power to be the future.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/08/2008

$200/barrel by 1/12009.

These commodity speculators have to be put back in check again as they are artificially inflating the price by their silly games and egos.

Second...We don't need to keep storing sweet crude daily (the most expensive) in underground salt storage caverns in this country when the strategic reserve is over 700 million barrels full and capacity is 727 million. More on the statisitcs on the link below:

http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/spr/spr-facts.html

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/08/2008

Can you divide 70000 barrels/d by 25 million barrels/d? Try it, its fun.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 05/08/2008

I think I can provide an answer to this rather quickly ...

What, exactly, does one do when the most nuclear-armed nation on Earth becomes a belligerent? What does one do when that nation is itching to start "World War Episode III: Return of the Nukes?" You can't oppose them militarily... you'd get vaporized.

But they have a huge weak spot: they survive by borrowing a million dollars a minute 'round the clock, and they do that because Henry Kissinger made a sweetheart deal ... but that was very long ago. This nation depends upon oil and cheap-transportation for everything because it makes nothing.

Now... you can't just flip the switch. (You'd get vaporized.) What you do instead is to turn the thumbscrew just a little bit every day. The economy does not have an alternate plan, does not have domestic sources, does not have any economic basis for its currency whatever other than the oil agreement.

And this is how you ... might ... avert World War III for at least another lifetime.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 05/08/2008

Bush and cronies can sleep well tonight knowing that they have perpetrated this debacle on the American public. Their coffers are full to the brim while the rest of the nation has a hard time putting food on the table. Must be nice being a fat cat politician now a days.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/08/2008

I dunno... look at Mme. Antoinette. She certainly regretted -her- "cake" comment.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/08/2008

Mission accomplished, eh? Mother fucker shrub.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/08/2008

The real tragedy is, that despite record gasoline prices, John Q. Public still has his foot to the floor.

Even driving at a sensible 55 MPH, one is made to think they are standing still. Who will be the first to campaign for mandatory governors on future new vehicles?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/08/2008

Public financing for elections and term limits is what we need. None of those clowns need to remain in office all their lives. Look at how many 70 year olds there are in the Congress and the Senate.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/08/2008

Hear! Hear!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/08/2008

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