Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

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First Posted: 05- 8-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 05-16-08 05:12 AM

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Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are running into two major stumbling blocks.

The first is obvious: the deep and growing animosity of Obama supporters towards Clinton, whom they see as raising issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

The second is less obvious: Mark Penn.

For many Obama backers, Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts -- an estimated $10 million or more -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and
Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

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Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Many of Obama's grassroots and netroots backers appear to be outraged at the thought that the Obama campaign might step in to lend a hand to get Clinton out of a financial hole -- and out of the race -- as was reported
Wednesday
.

The Huff Post web site was flooded with more than 1,200 complaints on this score:

"No! No! No!" wrote a commenter using the web name 'Realbluesky'. "The Clintons have proven what kind of scum they are." 'Dbrockx' wrote: "Why is she being rewarded for disrupting the Democratic party and trying to sabotage Obama?" 'Amber09' pulled no punches: "The Clintons would never help Obama if this was reversed! They would be laughing they asses off that a
black man could dare to think he could beat the Clinton machine! The Clintons created the mud pond, let them now stay in the mud they created!"

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and
spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a
Clinton-Obama pact.

Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are runnin...
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Anyone recall all the poor mouthing going on as they left office, claiming legal bills would bankrupt them etc. Turns out they raked in $110 million of loot in the first six years after office, not counting donations to the library or other charitable public service schemes. It appears their sense of entitlement knows no bounds, like her campaign knows no rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/09/2008

Hey where can I sign up for this debt relief fund? A good 30000 would help me out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/09/2008

IF AND WHEN YOU FIND OUT....

NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO BAIL THIS CRETIN OUT. THIS CRAZINESS ABOUT HER SUPPORTERS STAYING HOME OR VOTING MCCAIN IS JUST THAT. DO HER SUPPORTERS, MOSTLY WOMEN, WANT ROWE VS. WADE OVERTURNED. THE SUPREMES ARE AGING AND IF YOU GIVE THE ELECTION TO THE REPUBLICANS THEY HAVE, IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS 3 OR 4 JUDGES TO NOMINATE; ARE CLINTON'S SUPPORTERS THAT STUPID, SUICIDAL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 05/09/2008
- atila I'm a Fan of atila 56 fans permalink
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he knows how much he can lose if his campaign decide to do this,i'm pretty sure at this point,hillary is irrelevant and if she wants to keep going let her go and screw herself...Obama doesn't need to pay any blackmail or ransom to these very rich people....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/09/2008
- Dewtrell I'm a Fan of Dewtrell 8 fans permalink

Hell... where are Hillary's supporters? You people should be contributing funds to her campagin to pay off her debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/09/2008
- Dewtrell I'm a Fan of Dewtrell 8 fans permalink

And why does he have to pay off her debt? Why is this even an issue? I don't know any other presidental candidate who has paid off the debt of the loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 05/09/2008
- Dewtrell I'm a Fan of Dewtrell 8 fans permalink

He should not pay off her debt. Let her stay in the race and try to raise money. However, in NO WAY should Obama take money given to HIM by his supporters to pay down this witches debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/09/2008

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/09/2008

If Obama gives the money I gave him to run for president to Billary Clinton, I swear to Odin I will vote for Nader. Paying off the debt of a mulit-mulit-millionaire is not why I donated to his campaign. Billary has more money than I will see in two lifetimes. Let her pay her own way. To even consider such a move would be DISASTEROUS for Obama. Billary, in expecting us to pay her back, is exibiting the same insanity that we have seen from her all through this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 05/09/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 267 fans permalink
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I agree that it would be trouble for him, he could lose a lot of support. It's possible to take the Mr. Nice Guy thing too far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/09/2008
- Alethea I'm a Fan of Alethea 68 fans permalink
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Yeah, I'm not happy about the thought of my contribution being used to pay for Hillary's stubborness and bad business decisions. But then again, if it get's her out of the race so we can concentrate on McCain...

Ugh. That's a real catch 22.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/09/2008
- Oldchef I'm a Fan of Oldchef 2 fans permalink

If I understand the article right, the Obama campaign cannot legally transfer funds collected for Obama's campaign to Mrs. Clinton to help pay off her debts, so many of our concerns about that seem to be unfounded. on the subject of support for her efforts to raise money to pay down her debt, I can see that ONLY if she and Bill enthusiastically get behind his candidacy. No left-handed compliments, no secret winks behind the hand, real and enthusiastic support! Otherwise, let them pay off their own debts. They wouldn't have those debts if she had left the contest in March, and she probably could have collected more donations if she hadn't gone negative and racist and turned most of us off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/09/2008
- Alethea I'm a Fan of Alethea 68 fans permalink
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If you're right then there's an inconsistency in the article. If it is illegal to pay down her debts, then how have past winners paid down past losers debts as a tradition? I guess I'm confused.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/09/2008
- Veratruth I'm a Fan of Veratruth 19 fans permalink
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I am not a gambler, but I bet you a million that NO ONE would offer to pay off Sen. Obama's debts. What am I saying? Obama would never accept such a thing. He would never be that disloyal, dishonest, unkind or unpatriotic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/09/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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I hope you get to read this!

I was just as OUTRAGED as anyone else was but that was because I did not finish reading the article.

It turns out OBAMA CAN'T USE OUR CONTRIBUTIONS-- Against law! That provided the cooling effect I needed. { : ^ )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/09/2008
- ldsrapha I'm a Fan of ldsrapha 2 fans permalink

Besides this IS A LIE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/09/2008

Is she gonna miss 11 million dollars? Hell No!
Why is this even an issue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/09/2008
- rockymthi I'm a Fan of rockymthi 5 fans permalink
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In womans lib classes, my mama didn't teach me to beg a man to pay my debts. She's a powerful woman, with a much higher income than Obama. She stood tall in her bullet-proof polyester pantsuits and said she can do it all. She made the loan, she accepts the consequences. As an Obama contributor, I do not want my $$$ in the Clinton bank account.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/09/2008

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/09/2008
- Veratruth I'm a Fan of Veratruth 19 fans permalink
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Hillary and family can join with many Americans who lost their retirement savings, plus their homes during Bush and friends' quest for riches. I could say a lot more, but my ONLY FEAR is chastisement from my God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/09/2008

Hmm, still no Clinton supporter chiming in? Interesting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 05/09/2008
- Alethea I'm a Fan of Alethea 68 fans permalink
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No doubt. That is interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 05/09/2008

what do you want a Clinton supporter to chime in? do you miss not having anybody to talk to? or nobody to tell your offenses? Well, here's one, who is a supporter, and will continue being a supporter no matter what.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 05/09/2008
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