Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

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First Posted: 05- 8-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 05-16-08 05:12 AM

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Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are running into two major stumbling blocks.

The first is obvious: the deep and growing animosity of Obama supporters towards Clinton, whom they see as raising issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

The second is less obvious: Mark Penn.

For many Obama backers, Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts -- an estimated $10 million or more -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and
Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

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Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Many of Obama's grassroots and netroots backers appear to be outraged at the thought that the Obama campaign might step in to lend a hand to get Clinton out of a financial hole -- and out of the race -- as was reported
Wednesday
.

The Huff Post web site was flooded with more than 1,200 complaints on this score:

"No! No! No!" wrote a commenter using the web name 'Realbluesky'. "The Clintons have proven what kind of scum they are." 'Dbrockx' wrote: "Why is she being rewarded for disrupting the Democratic party and trying to sabotage Obama?" 'Amber09' pulled no punches: "The Clintons would never help Obama if this was reversed! They would be laughing they asses off that a
black man could dare to think he could beat the Clinton machine! The Clintons created the mud pond, let them now stay in the mud they created!"

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and
spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a
Clinton-Obama pact.

Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are runnin...
Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are runnin...
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- LoloZ I'm a Fan of LoloZ 2 fans permalink

Where the FUCK did this idea of Obama paying off HRC's debts come from??? Who earned 109 million in the last seven years and doesn't need a bailout???? Show me one Obama donor who wants even ONE CENT of his/he donation going to the woman who smeared her fellow democrat, praised the Republican candidate, and went as low as one can go into the political gutter to try and win the nomination. This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/08/2008
- preatorius I'm a Fan of preatorius 9 fans permalink
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She deserves nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/08/2008
- cruzy I'm a Fan of cruzy 8 fans permalink

LoloZ, I have to respond because you are going to give yourself an aneurysm and it is clear from your post that you did NOT read the article.

He is NOT planning on giving money from his campaign to her campaign--that is PROHIBITED by federal campaign finance law.

Rather, he may help her out with joint-fundraisers to help pay off her debt, if she works toward rebuilding party unity with him and helps the Democrats beat McCain.

Take a breath, calm down, and take a cold shower. You were very mistaken; however, I don't entirely blame you as it seems the Huffington Post has been purposely using a sensational headline (really this site is becoming more and more like TMZ everyday) rather than one that acurately states what is being considered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 05/08/2008

Absolutely not!!!
When the non-elite common hard working white man makes a bad investment in himself... to the tune of $12,000,000... he has to face the bankrupcy laws that Hillbilly advocated... so I think Hill can file a chapter 7... and face her responsibilities like a man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/08/2008

I don't mean to imply Americans are losing their houses because of mistakes. I can't see her expecting a payoff when the economy is so bad average Americans are struggling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/08/2008
- TheShadow I'm a Fan of TheShadow 12 fans permalink

Why?

That's her campaign's problem. I'm sure that all those hard working white folks will be glad to pony up more money to help her out. After all, they are her constituency who “blindly” adore her and will vote Republican just to spite the nominee Obama, and the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/08/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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Why can't her supporters pay off her debt. They are the ones voting for her and on here all the time calling us names. Obama must be crazy. As Madea would say, HELL to the NO. Have you guys been on AOL, they call us all kinds of names. They say we are in a cult and Obama is going to to do this to us. I will B!tch-slap that man upside the head myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/08/2008
- Countess I'm a Fan of Countess 45 fans permalink

I would not give those racist bastards one cent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 05/08/2008
- ffa I'm a Fan of ffa permalink

The article clearly stated that it is illegal for Obama to pay Clinton. All he can do is to send you and me and 1,500,000 people an email asking to donate to Clinton. If you don't want to, I sure don't, then don't donate. Simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/08/2008

If he uses my hard earned money to bail her out, I wouldn't be comfortable making any more contributions to him. She doesn't deserve to be reimbursed.

Let her pay for her own mistakes, just like all the Americans struggling these days. It's not like she's going to lose her house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/08/2008
- ffa I'm a Fan of ffa permalink

The article clearly stated that it is illegal for Obama to pay Clinton. All he can do is to send you and me and 1,500,000 people an email asking to donate to Clinton. If you don't want to, I sure don't, then don't donate. Simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/08/2008
- jhw22 I'm a Fan of jhw22 27 fans permalink

ffa -- Thank you for reading further than I could muster! You made me feel better. But I do believe that my money pays the staffers to have the conversations about this. And the thought just makes my skin crawl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/08/2008
- JWC I'm a Fan of JWC permalink

Agree... I would be extremely disappointed if my money, out of my social security check, went to pay of Hillary's debts, especially to Mark Penn. Maybe, to pay off some vendors like the one in Iowa who hadn't been paid, but to the Clintons or Penn, Hxxl NO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/08/2008
- 1PALady I'm a Fan of 1PALady 2 fans permalink
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Im with you, I've been shelling out quite a few pennies that i could have been keeping. I do not want my hard earned money going to money grubbing elitists. She ran a horrible campaign and made a lot of mistakes along with 49 percent of the voters that will only vote for her. Let them dig into their pockets and get her out of debt, I'm sure they will not mind helping her. What she should really do is pay it out of her 109 million.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/08/2008
- stonepier I'm a Fan of stonepier 16 fans permalink

I hate the idea of Obama's donated money being used to pay Clinton's debts - but I trust him and his campaign team to do what's right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/08/2008

Paying Clinton's debts would look like a pay-off. Her request for such a payment would look like extortion.

People on limited incomes are donating to the Obama campaign. I am donating to the Obama campaign from my disability checks. Using these small donations to reimburse a person who has more than $100million in the bank and has no qualms about sewing racial (and Party) division is not CHANGE.

Not standing up to Clinton extortion will be termed WEAK and UNPRINCIPLED by Republicans.

Can't you see the McCain commercials?

"Barack Obama blinked and paid off Hillary Clinton. Do you trust him to stand up to al Qaeda?"

Or...."Democrat Barack Obama betrayed his own donors. He will betray you."

Mr. Obama should not even THINK of going there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/08/2008
- rockyroad I'm a Fan of rockyroad 23 fans permalink

Yeah, damn disappointing. Your collective contributions wouldn't buy two flower arrangements for Hillary. The only reason she is continuing is to rack up leverage against Obama. . . I suspect that she has Supreme Court aspirations. At this point, when she calling her supporters undereducated bigots, I'm not thinking that I want her on the Supreme Court, I certainly don't want to pay her bills and will croak before I vote for a ticket that includes her as vice president.

Tim Russert is wildly out of line here. He needs to issue a retraction and probably take a little unpaid leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 05/09/2008

Agree 100 percent. Doesn't she have the extra "cajone" that Carville so foolishly pointed out last week to resolve her own financial mess? Can't she take care of the debts that she sanctioned? She and Bill are enormously wealthy - either write a check (less the $11.4 million they contributed to her campaign) or have Bill go on a $100k/speech speaking tour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 05/09/2008
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