Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

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First Posted: 05- 8-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 05-16-08 05:12 AM

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Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are running into two major stumbling blocks.

The first is obvious: the deep and growing animosity of Obama supporters towards Clinton, whom they see as raising issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

The second is less obvious: Mark Penn.

For many Obama backers, Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts -- an estimated $10 million or more -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and
Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

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Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Many of Obama's grassroots and netroots backers appear to be outraged at the thought that the Obama campaign might step in to lend a hand to get Clinton out of a financial hole -- and out of the race -- as was reported
Wednesday
.

The Huff Post web site was flooded with more than 1,200 complaints on this score:

"No! No! No!" wrote a commenter using the web name 'Realbluesky'. "The Clintons have proven what kind of scum they are." 'Dbrockx' wrote: "Why is she being rewarded for disrupting the Democratic party and trying to sabotage Obama?" 'Amber09' pulled no punches: "The Clintons would never help Obama if this was reversed! They would be laughing they asses off that a
black man could dare to think he could beat the Clinton machine! The Clintons created the mud pond, let them now stay in the mud they created!"

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and
spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a
Clinton-Obama pact.

Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are runnin...
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Why would she need help from Obama,,,,,,, Her husband still has a mouth, and apparently there are corporations and lobbyists willing to pay him up to 350,000 for an hour of his jabber. Just put him to work.

Or is it possible he won't have that much influence to peddle after they lose this election?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/09/2008
- huffnpuffn I'm a Fan of huffnpuffn 8 fans permalink

Obama is considering paying off Clinton's debt? That's not magnanimous. That's dumb. It's like handing the guy hitting you with a stick a new stick when he finally breaks the first one over your head.

Is he considering paying off McCain's eventual campaign debts too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 05/09/2008

1. NO VOTE if Obama bails out Hillary's irresponsible debt.
2. NO VOTE if Hillary is the VP.

The Clintons want to get back to the WH so bad if they get to be VP's, they may "get rid of" Obama to achieve their goal. Besides, we cannot afford 2VP's. I just dont want to be part of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/09/2008

Ditto.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/09/2008

I doubt that Obama is dumb enough to allow this nutcase to be one heartbeat from his presidency!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 05/09/2008
- sebocd I'm a Fan of sebocd 3 fans permalink

The dramatic drop in response to to Obama fund raising will speak the loudest. And Hillary's not biting anyway. This a big tactical error already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 05/09/2008

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/09/2008
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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If the Clinton campaign expects a quid pro quo with this overture it shows a new crime: political extortion.

How low can you go?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/09/2008
- Veratruth I'm a Fan of Veratruth 18 fans permalink
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I am not happy that my donations may actually help someone who has caused me a lot of grief. We should not be asked to help those we DO NOT TRUST. Who knows, they may actually continue to JOIN with McCain in the GE to defeat Sen. Obama WITH OUR FINANCIAL HELP. Hillary knows McCain will only serve one term. THIS WOULD BE TOTALLY UNFAIR IF WE ARE CONNED INTO SOME DEVIOUS ACT. Also, who knows what is going on behind closed doors in the White House. They may already know what the outcome of this election is, and I may be helping that unpatriotic family in their quest for riches, buying new suits and steak dinners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/09/2008
- Jess27 I'm a Fan of Jess27 2 fans permalink

OK, read it again. Your donation to Obama will not go to Clinton because that is illegal. They are talking about doing future joint fundraising events.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 05/09/2008
- LisainNYC I'm a Fan of LisainNYC 10 fans permalink

Email and phone the Obama office (866) 675 - 2008 and make sure they hear from Obama supporters and demand that Obama DOES NOT PAY Clinton's campaign debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 05/09/2008

still the poisonous hate towards Hillary, I wonder why.......­.. and you are talking about uniting the party? and the country? with so much hate I'd rather have another 4 years of Repubs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/09/2008

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/09/2008
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I have given many times to Senator Obama. I would have had no problems with him helping her UNTIL YESTERDAY'S REMARKS. I am a white female over 50 and I was SO offended with her USA interview that I called the DNC and asked them to get the SD's on board to stop her NOW. Even Peggy Noonan's article today made sense to me, a progressive democrat. Super Delagates, WAKE UP. She is destroying your soon to be offically nominated candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 05/09/2008
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 22 fans permalink
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This smells like a Clinton Camp attempt to suppress Obama's fund raising.

"Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million...­'

If possible, Mr. Edsall should ask the top Obama officials for clarification or release their names.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 05/09/2008

"..explori­ng ways to help Hillary Clinton...­"

Mr. Edsall points out that it is ILLEGAL for Obama to directly pay off her debts ( paragraph 12). The 'ways' they may explore Mr. Edsall mentions are tapping into OBama's donor base for signed appeals and joint fundraisers to pay down Clinton's debt.

Folks, your donations to Obama will not go to the Clinton campaign!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 05/09/2008

Don't you dare give my hard earned primary eletion dollars to the clintons. These horrid people have a net worth of over $100 million and I do not.

If I donate to the general election fund, do I risk seeing my money given to McCain?

Bullshit on that noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 05/09/2008
- nohobear I'm a Fan of nohobear 6 fans permalink

This is outrageous if true. I have given multiple contributions because I believe in Obama. But like others, I am struggling. A. Hillary created her own debt problem by not extending her absurd and hateful campaign passed the point of reason. B. She can pay it out of her personal family wealth.

By all means, be gracious to the loser. Help with a fundraiser for her. But to give any portion of money that earmarked for the Obama campaign is an insult.

Please Senator Obama, put this rumor to rest and repudiate it unless you want to see you campaign money dry up. You will need all of it to take on the republican attack machine which is coming for you.

God bless you, God protect you. On to victory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/09/2008
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I hope there are enough records left for historians to be fair, unbiased, honest and stern about what happens at this pivotal point in our country's history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 05/09/2008
- prochange I'm a Fan of prochange 3 fans permalink

Let the gunwaving, shot downing, pick up driving supporters of Hillary pay off her debt.
And I hope Hillary does not pay her debts to all the media companies, who all got rich from advertising money in this fight. But I am sure they asked for money in advance. The little people along the campaign trail, who trusted Hillary, are going to be ones, left out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 05/09/2008

You are right,if they have to pay off her debts or her money back,who then pay back the money to those who have contributed to her campaign? Or is it just Washington as usual,pay the rich whatever they lose and ask the poor to go to hell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 05/09/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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it's not just "the deep animosity towards Clinton"

I would no sooner put my money into Arianna's personal bank account
or any other multi-millionaire, for that matter.

When poor people make a bad business decision, who is there to help them recoup the loss?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 05/09/2008

Why doesn't she call on her 'much broader base' of supporters to help with her campaign debt relief? I'm sure all those white, hard-working, blue-collar folk wouldn't mind kicking in a few bucks to add to Clinton's and Penn's hefty bank accounts.

As an Obama contributor, I think Obama tapping into his vast list of donors to hold a clear, transparent fundraiser for her is an excellent idea. Let the people make a choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 05/09/2008
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