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First Posted: 05- 8-08 03:16 PM   |   Updated: 05-16-08 05:12 AM

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During a private fundraiser last month, Sen. Barack Obama said he was "considering" voluntarily restricting the amount of money he could raise in a general election from campaign donors.

"We need to separate money from political influence. It's an experiment in open source politics," Obama told a crowd of supporters in Silicon Valley. "One thing that I am considering, and my advisers might not like this: I may limit campaign contribution amounts per person to less than the federal limit in the general election."

The remark, which was shared with The Huffington Post by an event attendee and not disputed by the Obama campaign, is the first public indication that Obama is willing to forgo some of his massive financial advantages if he were to face off against John McCain in the fall. The current federal cap on individual general election donations is $2300.

It is a trailblazing move that could give him political leeway to forgo public funds, as well as one that could serve as a starting point for reaching a fundraising compromise with McCain. But, if pursued, it will fall short of what some reform groups are hoping for from each of the party's standard bearers.

"I still believe Obama ought to lead the way and take public funding for these elections," said Joan Claybrook, president of the good-government group Public Citizen. "What he is saying here is that he is going to do something to try and walk down the middle. But it is not really walking down the middle. In the general, you either take it or you don't take it."

For weeks, Obama and McCain have battled each other over an alleged pledge made early in the campaign for Obama to pursue public financing in a general election. McCain, whose campaign financing woes pose a serious threat to his electoral hopes, has stressed that the pledge was concrete. Obama has countered that his pledge was conditioned on reaching an agreement with the GOP nominee, and that the very nature of his fundraising apparatus -- 1.5 million donors giving relatively small amounts -- constitutes a public financing system.

The Illinois Democrat has not dismissed the option of reaching a compromise with McCain. And this floated idea of restricting donations could serve as the first step towards achieving that common ground.

Good government groups, by and large, view Obama as committed to reforming the predominance of money in politics. And Obama, in his appearance at this fundraiser, stressed that this was his ultimate goal, noting that the system by which he has been successful effectively undercuts moneyed-interests.

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"We have not seen before," Obama said. "It takes power away from PACs, from lobbyists. It takes power away also from institutional players. Endorsements from a governor might not mean as much as it once did. Endorsements from some of the traditional institutional players, even those that are part of the Democratic Party, may not mean as much. That is actually a healthy thing."

However, political watchdog groups stressed that while Obama's ability to build a large coalition of small donors was an important breakthrough, it was not a viable substitute for more comprehensive reform.

"There is something to be said to the notion that having a whole lot of small donors is less corrupting than a few really big donors," said Josh Israel, senior researcher for the Center for Public Integrity's Buying of the President. "But the idea of having a public financing system is that you have a level playing field. And unless he raises that money in even amounts for himself and Sen. McCain and perhaps the other candidates who are running, then you are not going to have a level playing field and money is going to be a major factor."

No major party candidate has opted to run the general election on his own fundraising prowess since the public financing system was implemented in the 1970s. Under the federal campaign finance system, a presidential candidate can, after he is officially the nominee, become eligible for $85 million from a fund provided by taxpayers. That candidate, however, would be barred from raising additional money.

With the proliferation of outside groups and 527s, there is a concern, especially from the Obama campaign, that by relying only on public funds, a candidate could face obstacles matching opposition spending dime-for-dime. A basis for a McCain-Obama compromise on fundraising would center on somehow restricting those 527s, a task complicated by the fact that candidates are legally prohibited from coordinating with outside groups. That, political observers say, raises a major hurdle for Obama to reach a deal.

Complicating the issue, to a certain extent, is McCain's decision during the Republican primary to use the prospect of accepting matching funds as a way of securing a $1 million bank loan. Critics say it was an abuse of the public financing system and raises doubts about the Arizona Republican's commitment to reform.

"The tricky thing is there is a trust thing," said Dave Donnelly, national campaign director at Public Campaign Action Fund. "McCain opted into the public financing system in the primary and then opted out, then has slammed Obama across the country for this pledge he signed. But Obama never signed a piece of paper saying he would be punished for violating his agreement. That's what McCain has signed and he has gotten a free ride on it... The bottom line is, America needs a reformer in the White House and Obama has proven he will be a reformer by the legislation he's sponsored and his record on the issue. And McCain has clearly backtracked."

During a private fundraiser last month, Sen. Barack Obama said he was "considering" voluntarily restricting the amount of money he could raise in a general election from campaign donors. "We need to ...
During a private fundraiser last month, Sen. Barack Obama said he was "considering" voluntarily restricting the amount of money he could raise in a general election from campaign donors. "We need to ...
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Lose that idea fast. He will need every nickel once the 527s starts spewing their venom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/08/2008
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I think it is a mistake to do so. Give your money to DNC or other Democrats, if possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/08/2008

This is a total scam. The Republicans never play fair, let them whine when things are not going their way. They deserve to be crushed in this election. Don't do it Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/08/2008
- lobo1939 I'm a Fan of lobo1939 7 fans permalink
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When the republican attack machine and their swiftboating 527s start in on him, he is going to need every penny he can raise to counter the lies and distortions. Don't do it Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/08/2008

If every presidential candidate has used public financing since 1970, what makes public financing good? There hasn't been a lack of influence buying in the White house these last 38 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 05/08/2008
- brizzle I'm a Fan of brizzle 3 fans permalink

Obama should stick to his guns and continue his current financing system. Here is the argument: I am taking small donations from many. This is public financing at its most basic. Taking those publicly availably funds is a waste. I don't need and won't waste that taxpayer money. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/08/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 90 fans permalink

Pete - I have been bringing this stuff up to enormous hostility.Obama supporters are followers , not co- creators of their candidate.They don't seem to realize that he is a politican and must be subjected to pressure from the electorate to perform.He is certainly subjected to huge pressure from his corporate donors,But they insist it's just janitors from hedge firms backing him. In their eyes he can do no wrong.I'm curious what will happen when he is subjected to satire.- will they shut down the John Stewart show?

i guess the American public gets what they deserve and seem to want - a political American Idol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/08/2008
- PopeRatzo I'm a Fan of PopeRatzo 19 fans permalink
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tbone99, don't be an ass. Do you ignore the fact that Obama has raised a tremendous amount from small donations from ordinary people?

As someone who's watched Obama's political career from the time he was a lecturer at the UofC and lived across the street from my in Hyde Park, I can tell you that in a very real way, Obama's supporters have indeed been "co-creators" of his candidacy. When he was knocking around little community organizations here in Chicago, he wasn't courting "corporate donors" and obviously wasn't positioning himself for a presidential run. He was just doing the next right thing. His supporters encouraged him to go each further step, from state government to senate and now beyond.

Yes, his supporters ARE co-creators of his candidacy in a way that has not happened in a presidential race in my lifetime. And unlike that wrinkled old prick Ronald Reagan, who was nothing BUT a creation of the corporate donors, Obama knows full well that he is subject to the will of the electorate, and has always acted to advance their will, and their well-being.

You're going to have to face that your party is going to face a decent man in Barack Obama. And if you happen to claim that you're a Democrat and supporter of Mrs Clinton, you're STILL going to have to face it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/08/2008
- christieZ I'm a Fan of christieZ 6 fans permalink

Well Said, PopeRatzo. tbone99 obviously doesn't log into Obama.com daily or receive emails from Obama supporters in his area who are excited and working tirelessly to advance the cause. He/She will never know what it's like to enact collective change. No candidate has ever received donations from so many Americans. 1.5 MILLION AND GROWING! Keep it up, everyone. We can do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/08/2008
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 30 fans permalink

OBAMA !!!!

DON'T DO IT !!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/08/2008
- PaulLoeb I'm a Fan of PaulLoeb 11 fans permalink

Major hurdles are both the 527s but also a media that has been enormously harsh on Obama. PLus how do you value the contribution of Fox or Rush LImbaugh. The Democrats don't have an equivalent megaphone on their said.

I'd like to see him take public financing, but he'd have to find a way to neutralize these potential attacks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 05/08/2008

Who's the pander-bear now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 05/08/2008

As an Obama supporter I have to say this is the DUMBEST thing I have heard. There is nothinbg worng with raisng money from average americans online that are not asking for meetings or any favors, they just want their ideas to be implemeted and change the country. I hope he reconsiders this b/c you never know what the GOP 527s will throw at him.

The problem in politics is lobbyist asking for favors after donating to politicians, not average americans that donate money and don't ask ANYTHING in return... he has his supporters all mixed up if he thinks we are doing sothing immoral and are giving him money for the wrong reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 05/08/2008
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 30 fans permalink

If he goes through with it, it will be a CLASSIC mistake talked about for years.

Even if he can get McCain to limit himself, the Repub 527s will be spending like crazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/08/2008

Read his comments again, I believe you misunderstood his intent. He KNOWS where his donations come from and that most are do not reach the donation limit so he is not hurting himself, penalizing his campaign or disrespecting his donors by doing this. He is trying to keep the trash talk down that he gets his money from big donors and he is trying to make the repubs do the same. He cannot however control what the 527s do BUT there are groups out there that will support him in the same way so I think he is trying to make a point here and the other thing to remember is this was said "last month" and may or may not reflect his views today after the nasty ads put out by repubs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/08/2008
- PopeRatzo I'm a Fan of PopeRatzo 19 fans permalink
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Madampotential, why do you feel that at this point in the race Senator Obama needs your advice on how to run his candidacy?

He's done a fine job relying on his own instincts. Why not let him do what leaders are supposed to do?

When did everyone suddenly become a campaign advisor?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/08/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 90 fans permalink

Thats right -no critique wanted in this campaign, or allowed, even if one is an Obama supporter., just get in line and nod your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/08/2008

Hillary said our votes don't count otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/08/2008

Obama is saying he might support lowering the amount each person/group can donate so that his money would come in from volumn of voters not idividuals, to me that says he is trying to limit charges of influence buying donations. Independant groups can still put out their own ads against McCain as long as Obama does not approve the message or pay for any of it. That safeguards him somewhat because that is how the Clinton put out several of her ads in IN
The repubs national committee put out ads that McCain did not pay for(like the Wright one) The DNC can can alsp put out any ad they want because their ads are not paid out of Obama campaign funds. (it seems to me ) that all Obama is really saying is business as usual because the majority of his donations per person add up to less then the permitted amount.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/08/2008
- Agnim I'm a Fan of Agnim 6 fans permalink

Senator Obama should wait until he's President; then he can sign a more meaningful election campaign law.

As with the Clintons, McCain cannot be trusted to abide by the rules.
McCain has already violated the election law by opting out of public financing after he used it to garner a loan.

Obama should AGAIN reach for the most cash from whatever quarters and force McCain to use his wife's million$.
After all, McCain is already using his wife's plane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 05/08/2008
- goofy2 I'm a Fan of goofy2 2 fans permalink

Accepting a limit that coincides with the publicly-financed amount McCain will likely accept, with its spending limits will do two things I think Obama wants. It will limit the money race and the money advantage (usually enjoyed by Republicans). It may also leave open the option to raise that lid if and when those swiftboaters start. Their lurking existence is the main reason Obama is reluctant to accept public financing and its limits. We already know McCain knows how to play "good cop-bad-cop" with these types - ala North Carolina Republican Party. "Take it down, guys - but I really can't make them."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 05/08/2008

Absent some way to control the Swiftboaters, I don't see how Obama can afford to give up his truly publically funded campaign.

Plus, by accepting donations from the public he allows us to become invested in his campaign. And that has a lot to do with his success. For as little as $5.00 Americans can buy into his campaign. No one has ever asked us to do more than vote in the past. It may be a cliche, but a thing is only worth what you are willing to pay for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 05/08/2008
- LilyK I'm a Fan of LilyK 2 fans permalink

You have made a really important point, Susan. As important as the money that has been raised from the small donors is the fact that, as contributors, we have become vested in Obama's campaign. I think this is what the Beltway establishment and the media have failed to understand and why they are so befuddled at Obama's continuing popularity with his growing base.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/08/2008

And I think that those are the same interests that will try to get Sen Obama to accept federal funding. It is our campaign and that threatens the establishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/08/2008
- buckygreen I'm a Fan of buckygreen 80 fans permalink

I agree. I've donated over $500 since December on a very tight budget because I believe I'm investing in my own and the country's better future. I consider myself a sort of stockholder, and I'm prepared to keep investing. I'm also willing to bet that many many of the other 1.5 million + and growing daily stockholders feel the same way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 05/08/2008
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